Linux-Misc Digest #367

2000-11-21 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #367, Volume #26   Wed, 22 Nov 00 01:13:01 EST

Contents:
  LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 & Redhat7.0 (Peter Bismuti)
  Re: lpd network permissions problems (Bob Martin)
  error compiling tulip.c (Peter Bismuti)
  Re: HELP: Netscape Download file location. (Paul Ahlquist)
  Re: wu-ftp group permissions help (ljb)
  Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. (Henry_Barta)
  Re: xmms playing CDs? (Y-C. Roger Lin)
  Re: Which Linux to try? (Michel Catudal)
  Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. (Vincent Fox)
  Re: RPM's (Michel Catudal)
  Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions? (Peter Mitchell)
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? (Jerry L Kreps)
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? (Jerry L Kreps)
  Re: mpg123 + NTFS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: question about vim ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Netscape 6 ("Horst Simon")
  test sorry! ("Terry Moore-Read")
  error compiling tulip.c, which file with -I? (Peter Bismuti)
  Re: NVidia GeForce 256 DDR Acceleration ("Chris Warren")
  Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 & Redhat7.0
Date: 22 Nov 2000 00:18:05 GMT


I'm trying to install the driver for a LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 LAN Card
V4.1 with Redhat 7.0.  According to the LinkSys page it should work with
the tulip.o driver that comes with Redhat but it doesn't.  

I've tried following the instructions in the linksys page and they don't work.
I've tried following the instructions on the www.scyld.com page and they don't
work either. I was told that there was an archive that included  tulip.c 
and a makefile on the linksys page but I cannot find it.  

If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: Re: lpd network permissions problems
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:28:06 -0600

doug reeder wrote:

[ snip ]
> I have added the remote machine to the hosts.lpd file on the machine
> with the printer:
> 
> [root@yodel /root]# cat /etc/hosts.lpd
> # hosts.lpd
> eroica.som.ohio-state.edu
> tactus.som.ohio-state.edu
> slendro.som.ohio-state.edu
> 
> lpd is running fine on both hosts:
> 
> [root@yodel /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status
> lpd (pid 667 513) is running...
> [root@yodel /root]# ps -e | grep lp
>   513 ?00:00:00 lpd
>   667 ?00:00:00 lpd
> 
> [root@slendro /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd status
> lpd (pid 777 513) is running...
> [root@slendro /root]# ps -e | grep lp
>   513 ?00:00:00 lpd
>   777 ?00:00:00 lpd
> 
> and all other network communication between the two machines runs fine.
> 
> Is there some other place I need to enable this?
> 
> --
> P. Douglas Reeder  Lecturer, Computer. Science. Dept., Ohio State Univ..
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~reeder/reeder.html
> GE/S d+ s+:- a C+@$ UH+ P+ L E W++ N+ o? K? w !O M+ V PS+() PE Y+ PGP- t 5+ !X
> R>+ tv+ b+++>$ DI+ D- G e+++ h r+>+++ y+>++


May or may not make a difference but I just put the hostname ( tactus )
and not the FQDN in the hosts.lpd file with an entry in hosts.

Also I don't think you should have two instances of lpd running. I saw
this before when there was bad data in printcap, lpd would not function.
The second instance was a fork from the first that was hung.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: error compiling tulip.c
Date: 22 Nov 2000 00:34:01 GMT



This is the error message I get when I try to compile the tulip.c driver
from www.scyld.com:

#gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -O6 -c tulip.c
 
tulip.c: In function 'tulip_open':
tulip.c:1437: structure has no member named 'tbusy'
tulip.c:1438: structure has no member named 'start'
. 
. 
. 

Anyone know what this is about?  I'm using Redhat7.0.

Thanks

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From: Paul Ahlquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: Netscape Download file location.
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:32:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> . But that raises the question, why
> do not the downloaded files go there for the original poster?

That's a good question.  Netscape generates an error on save 
when you don't have sufficient privilege or when the directory 
just doesn't exist.

Could be that mysterious malady that affects users on my LAN: 
lost files.  The whole problem stems from the user not having 
mastered mental directory tree traversal.  A trivial matter to 
old hands that apparently isn't so trivial.  I've yet to find a 
method of explaining the hierarchical structure of directories 
in a way that is certain to click.  I guess it's one of those 
topics that each must find their own understanding on.  
(remember that moment--long, long ago--when linked lists 
clicked? I do :-)

-pea


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Linux-Misc Digest #366

2000-11-21 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #366, Volume #26   Tue, 21 Nov 00 19:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: serial port (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: SCO 'tar' media with Linux? (Mike Castle)
  Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE ("Mike Hewett")
  Re: serial port (Max Lungarella)
  Star Office (Myriam Abramson)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (bob_more)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: logitech USB mouse won't work ("Anthony")
  NVidia GeForce 256 DDR Acceleration (Kevin Brown)
  Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. ("Michael Westerman")
  lpd network permissions problems (doug reeder)



From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.app
Subject: Re: serial port
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:41:56 -0500

Max Lungarella wrote:

> hi jean-david
>
> > P.S.: You did malloc your newtio structure, I hope? Otherwise garbage will ensue.
> > And free it later to avoid memory leaks... . I hope I am not insulting your
> > intelligence, but one never knows... .
>
> here part of my code:
>
> 
>--
>
> bool SerialCom::initConnection(const char *const portname, const char
> *const param)
> {
>Parser parseObj;
>struct termios newtio;
>
>   if (_port>=OK)// Port already open
>  _err.sys("** Port already open");
>
>   _port = open(portname, O_RDWR | O_NDELAY | O_NOCTTY);
>  fcntl(_port, F_SETFL, 0);
>
>// Error
>if (_port<0)
>   _err.sys("** Error while opening the serial port");
>else
>{
>   if ( tcgetattr(_port, &_oldtio) < 0)  // Save current port
> settings
> _err.ret("** Error while reading the serial port settings");
>
>   bzero(&newtio, sizeof(newtio));   // Clear struct for new port
> settings
>
>   newtio.c_oflag &= ~OPOST;// Raw output
>   newtio.c_cflag |= (CLOCAL | CREAD);
>   newtio.c_lflag &= ~(ICANON | ECHO | ECHOE | ISIG);// Raw
> input

I do not remember if this is right. If you turn off ICANON, do you really need to turn 
off ECHOE?
The man page says:

  ECHOE  if ICANON is also set, the ERASE  character  erases
  the  preceding  input  character, and WERASE erases
  the preceding word.

But in your case, ICANON is NOT also set.

>   parseObj.parse(param, &newtio);  // Parse parameter string
>
>   cfsetispeed(&newtio, B9600); // Activation after 'tcsetattr'
>   cfsetospeed(&newtio, B9600);
>
>   newtio.c_cc[VTIME] = 0;
>   newtio.c_cc[VMIN] = 0;
>
>   tcflush(_port, TCIFLUSH);   // clean serial port ...
>
>   if (tcsetattr(_port, TCSANOW, &newtio) < 0);   // ... activate
> settings for the port
>  _err.ret("** Error during activation of the serial port
> settings");
>
>   return true;
>}
>
>// Remember owner of port
>stat(portname, &_stt);
>_port_uid = _stt.st_uid;
>_port_gid = _stt.st_gid;
>
>// Give it to us!!
>if (_real_uid != 0)
>   chown(portname, (uid_t)_real_uid, (gid_t)_real_gid);
> }
>
> 
>---
>
> perhaps you are able to see the problem, i'd appreciate it very much.
>
> thx a lot.
> max

I do not see it, but I have not done that kind of thing since about 1991 or so, so I 
would not
expect to see it. What I would suggest, however, is to copy _oldio (whereever that is) 
into newtio
first, and then change only the bits you absolutely must change. I know I could never 
get it right
by setting everything up the way I thought it should be.

--
 .~.   Jean-David Beyer   Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\  Registered Machine73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  4:25pm up 1 day, 1:38, 2 users, load average: 4.62, 3.85, 2.87




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Castle)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SCO 'tar' media with Linux?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:20:40 -0600

In article ,
Scott M. Navarre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>devices - i.e. can't do a "tar xv6" to extract files from a floppy disk)
>

I've used tar on floppies quite a bit.  Give it the device:

tar xf /dev/fd0

mrc


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   Mike Castle   Life is like a clock:  You can work constantly
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  and be right all the time, or not work at all
www.netcom.com/~dalgoda/ and be right at least twice a day.  -- mrc
We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan.  -- Watchmen

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From: "Mike Hewett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.os.linux.suse,casema.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.set

Linux-Misc Digest #365

2000-11-21 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #365, Volume #26   Tue, 21 Nov 00 16:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Re: Missing operating system? ("Eric")
  Re: unresolved symbols in modules after kernel recompile (Rob Funk)
  SVGAlib & Chips 65545 advanced features (Kevin D. Quitt)
  logitech USB mouse won't work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: SMP system with AMD micros (Andrey Vlasov)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (bob_more)
  Re: SMP system with AMD micros (Cokey de Percin)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (Robert Kiesling)
  SCO 'tar' media with Linux? ("Scott M. Navarre")
  Re: serial port (Max Lungarella)
  Re: serial port (Floyd Davidson)



From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Missing operating system?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:20:03 -0500

"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ve4vd$2nh6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have installed RH 6.2.  I asked used Disk Druid during setup, and
> allocated 16 MB to /boot (it actually allocated 22 MB, I'm not sure why),
> and the remaining free space to /.  I also have a WinME partition.  I
> installed LILO on the first sector of the /boot partition.  I was hoping
> that if I set the /boot partition as active using fdisk from my dos
startup
> disk, I could get it to run lilo and boot (since I don't want to install
> LILO on on MBR, due to paranoia).  But this doesn't work.  All I get is
> "Missing Operating System" on the screen.  Booting linux from a boot
> diskette works fine, and setting my primary DOS partition as active
results
> in successful boot into WinME.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Eric

For my next trick, I will now answer my own question:

It turns out that LILO was never loaded.  I remember now that I got an error
at the end of configuration in lilo.conf.  It seemed to be related to the
name I gave the Linux system ("RH Linux 6.2").  Maybe no spaces allowed or
too long?  When I renamed it to just "Linux" and reran /sbin/lilo, lilo
executed without errors, and I can now dual boot.

I hope this may be helpful to someone in the future.  Sorry to post a
question I could have answered myself.

Eric



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Funk)
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: Re: unresolved symbols in modules after kernel recompile
Date: 21 Nov 2000 19:10:55 GMT

In article <8vceuc$so9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
doug reeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm recompiling the 2.2.12 kernel to enable support for a 
>parallel port printer.  Unfortunately, this breaks everything
>that's compiled as a modules.
>
>My sequence of commands is
>
>cd /usr/src/linux
>make xconfig
>make dep
>make clean
>make modules 
>make modules_install
>make bzdisk
>depmod -a
>
>This is where dozens of .o files are reported as  having unresolved symbol(s).
>I can boot from the new kernel on disk, but nothing that was compiled as
>a module works.
>
>I tried doing
>
>make modules
>make modules_install
>
>after the make bzdisk, but that didn't change anything.

The second way is the correct order -- make and install modules after
making everything else.

When recompiling the same version of the kernel that you are already
using, it often helps to rename the module directory that you're
using, so that the new compile uses its own module directory.  Try "mv
/lib/modules/2.2.12 /lib/modules/2.2.12.old", then "make
modules_install" again.  Otherwise you get depmod confusion because of
old modules that weren't replaced.

But if you're recompiling the kernel anyway, I'd recommend just
downloading 2.2.17 or (if it's released yet) 2.2.18, since a lot has
been fixed since 2.2.12.  See ftp.kernel.org.

-- 
==| "A slice of life isn't the whole cake
 Rob Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | One tooth will never make a full grin"
 http://www.funknet.net/rfunk |-- Chris Mars, "Stuck in Rewind"

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From: Kevin D. Quitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SVGAlib & Chips 65545 advanced features
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:14:37 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm trying to enable the 8-bit palette instead of the 6-bit palette, and
enable page swapping for speed.  The chips driver seems to mostly be a
stub, passed by for the more exotic controllers.  Has anybody done any
work improving the driver, or can somebody tell me how I'm being stupid?

-- 
#include 
 _
Kevin D Quitt  USA 91351-4454   96.37% of all statistics are made up
Per the FCA, this email address may not be added to any commercial mail list

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: logitech USB mouse won't work
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:13:42 GMT

I'm using Linux Mandrake 7.1 on a laptop. The laptop does not have ps/2
or serial, only USB. So I'm left with the touchpad or a usb mouse. I
have the logitech optical wheel mouse with usb, but I can't get it to
work. I've run mouseconfig, c

Linux-Misc Digest #364

2000-11-21 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #364, Volume #26   Tue, 21 Nov 00 13:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me. (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: RPM's (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: serial port (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: serial port (Max Lungarella)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? ("J.B. Moreno")
  Re: simple shell script variable question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  CU idle while tcbs to tx (Peter Nobels)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: RPM's (TimCJarrett)
  Re: serial port (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: cdrecord and multi-session (Paul Lew)
  Re: serial port (Jean-David Beyer)
  packet filtering VS layer 4 switch (Beggar)
  ipchains vs Layer 4 switch (Beggar)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Where can find the source code for the bash or ash? (James R. Van Zandt)
  Re: Windows Manager and Desktop Enviroment ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me.
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:36:36 -0500

Robert Heller wrote:

>   Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   In a message on Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:50:29 -0500, wrote :
>
> JB> When I print (Red Hat Linux 6.0, Dual 550MHz Pentium III
> JB> processors), the system time jumps up to over 50%. That is a
> JB> heck of a lot of system time for an essentially 1100MHz system.
>
> No, top is talking about 50% on ONE processor.  25% of your 1100MHz
> system.  Top does NOT take the number of processors into account.  See what
> happens when you really beat on the machine.  Watch top tell you that
> system utilization is at 200%!  Do a kernel compile in one window and
> rebuild gcc in another.  Check out top in a third...

Top is NOT talking about ONE processor. When I set it up to be running 2
setiathomes at Nice 19 and running an IBM DB2 client program that does
parallel processing on two CPUs at the same time (i.e., all four of these in
the ready queue at the same time and all the time), the CPU utilization goes
up to 100% (i.e., idle is at 0.0 all the time). Actually, I do not need to
beat it that hard. Just the setiathomes are enough. One setiathome can run one
processor 100% of the time, but top then indicates that the system is around
50% idle.

Here is how it looks at the moment.

 11:28am  up 20:42,  1 user,  load average: 2.15, 2.16, 2.10
70 processes: 67 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  0.7% user,  6.0% system, 93.1% nice,  0.0% idle
Mem:  516924K av, 491668K used,  25256K free,  82472K shrd,  24920K buff
Swap: 273088K av,   7376K used, 265712K free362804K cached

  PID USER PRI  NI PAGEIN  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM  CTIME COMMAND
 7005 seti  20  19546 15668  15M   788 R N  46.8  3.0 113:21
setiathome
 6625 seti2 19  19571 14860  14M   788 R N  46.7  2.8 125:34
setiathome
 5534 root   1   0969 28620  27M  2032 S 2.2  5.5  10:57
/etc/X11/X
 6494 jdbeyer5   5738  3132 3132  2464 S N   2.2  0.6   6:44
cpumemusage
 6467 jdbeyer6   5446  1084 1084   872 R N   0.4  0.2   1:14
/usr/bin/top
 6436 jdbeyer0   0   7983  2368 2368  1676 S 0.2  0.4   0:09
enlightenmen
 6805 root   0   0   1317  3692 3692  2228 S 0.1  0.7   0:47
./_xpwrchute
 8314 jdbeyer0   0834  4408 4408  1656 S 0.1  0.8   0:45 wish8.0
1 root   0   0321   480  480   404 S 0.0  0.0 877:31 init [5]
2 root   0   0  0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:01 kflushd
3 root   0   0  0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:08 kupdate
4 root   0   0  0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kpiod
5 root   0   0   2005 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:09 kswapd
   ...

EACH of those setiathomes are taking about 93% of a CPU. My machine is not
very busy with real work right now, or the %CPU of the setiathomes would drop
due to their high (meaning unlikely to run) PRI and NI values.

Kernel compiles only take things up to 50%; they are very fast on this
machine. (I also have 2 10,000rpm hard drives on an Ultra-2 SCSI controller,
and 512Megabytes 100MHz ECC SDRAM.)

Top does not need to know how many processors I have. It needs to know only
the total cpu power (2x 550.5 bogomips), and it knows what % of that is being
used. You can see about the same thing by running xosview, which certainly
does know about the two CPUs. It shows the load on each CPU (user, system,
nice, and idle), and the interrupts that are being handled by each CPU.

I can run etop as well, and it DOES show useage for each CPU separately, in a
way similar to what is shown by xosview.

> Also, how long is at 50%?

Several minutes per page for something like a busy Netscape page, or a typical
Acrobat file.

> The system will ge

Linux-Misc Digest #363

2000-11-21 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #363, Volume #26   Tue, 21 Nov 00 11:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: unresolved symbols in modules after kernel recompile (Bill Delphenich)
  microemacs 4.00 port? (Martin Gregorie)
  Re: simple shell script variable question (Eric)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Eric)
  Re: Set environment variable in bsh script and effect another program. (Eric)
  ftp slow but not telnet on RH 7 ("Legend")
  Re: Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  I've Posted the answer earlier. Here it is ("Jeff")
  Re: Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me. (Robert Heller)
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? (Robert Heller)
  Qmail+Vpopmail problem ("Martino")
  Re: microemacs 4.00 port? (Neil Cherry)
  printer ("^Stinger^")
  RPM's (TimCJ)
  serial port (Max Lungarella)
  Missing operating system? ("Eric")
  ext2 fs on magneto optical disks ("Massimiliano Caovilla")



From: Bill Delphenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: Re: unresolved symbols in modules after kernel recompile
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:13:38 -0500

Bill Unruh wrote:

> In <8vceuc$so9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (doug reeder) 
>writes:
>
> >I'm recompiling the 2.2.12 kernel to enable support for a
> >parallel port printer.  Unfortunately, this breaks everything
> >that's compiled as a modules.
>
> ALL distributions that I have every heard of support parallel port
> printers out of the box. What made you think you should recompile?
> Despite what some of the ancient and outdated howtos say, you almost
> never should recompile your kernel. You will almost always make things
> worse, rather than better.
> (Yes, it is possible to recompile one's kernel and have it work.
> )

I seem to remember hearing that parallel port support only works when installed as a 
module.
All distributions I have run into include the module for parallel port support out of 
the
box.

I have always recompiled my kernel, being pretty much old-school. However, I have been
wrestling with RH7 lately, and I have never run into so many problems. This is not a 
happy
situation for the Linux community if we lose the ability to do our own kernels.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: microemacs 4.00 port?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:17:44 GMT

I just grabbed the curretn source archive for microEmacs from its home
site. However, there is no Linux subdirectory and sure enough, a quick
hack at setting one up failed to compile.

Has anybody ported microEmacs 4.00 to Linux? 

If so, can you point me to a source for the files you had to modify,
please (estruct.h and makefile at least) and stop me re-inventing the
wheel.


TIA

--
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@logica   | Logica Ltd
com   | +44 020 76379111

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: simple shell script variable question
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:47:23 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:35:42 GMT,
> Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> 
> >>>i=`whoami`
> 
> >>>This text does not show what it i
> looks like in the shell, but it is the
> >>>same key as the ~, only without the shift.
> 
> >>Following that instruction I get #whoami#
> 
> >I just tried his example, and it worked
> for me.  I don't know if it makes
> >any difference or not, but what shell
> are you running?  I'm running bash.
> >Another possibility would be to use this:
> >i=$(whoami)
> which also works under bash.
> 
> The original poster's email was a .fr,
> meaning he wrote from France. Probably
> the trouble is everyone's using different
> keyboards due to the different languages.
> 
> How/whether non-alphabetic
> characters entered on different
> language keyboards are handled in a
> standard way by a shell
> is a matter I know nothing about.
> . . . I'm curious how it is managed.
> 
> I'll be back to see if anybody explains it.
> 

You mean you haven't selected a keyboard layout?
Well you did, and you probably chose the (default) US keyboard (or
microsoft 101 key, don't recall what it was called during setup) layout.
I did the same, as I use a MS keyboard (I live in Holland though)

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Undelete a file in Linux
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:51:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> One way would be to create your own version of 'rm' which cycles files
> into some other directory (junk, for instance) - and then have a cron job
> which periodically cleans out that directory.
> 
> If you need to 'undelete', simply go to that directory and get it.
> 

Yep, I have written a script that moves stuff to trash and have it
aliased to rm
There's hardly any overhead, I can still use the original rm by either
specifying the entire path, or escape rm from t

Linux-Misc Digest #362

2000-11-21 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #362, Volume #26   Tue, 21 Nov 00 08:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Compiling Dia on Mandrake 7.1 (Jonathan McBrien)
  Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions? (Lars Oergel)
  Re: pine locally through dialup? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot) (Sebastian Palm)
  Re: Compiling Dia on Mandrake 7.1 (Harald Wagener)
  Tomacat, Apache and Redhat 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Proftpd maintenance error (Robert)
  wu-ftp group permissions help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  flushing mail (Andrew Gretton)
  Wouldn't this make a nice Linux PDA/phone? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  cron: rmmod: out of memory (Axel Christiansen)
  Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Mike J Tietel)
  Re: RedHat 7 eth0 module problems (Robert Surenko)
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? (Roger Blake)
  New user (Andre)
  Re: cdrecord and multi-session (Thomas Ruedas)
  Re: Lan user log (Sebastian Hans)
  Re: Video Driver ("Richard Snow")
  Re: Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0 (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: flushing mail (Sebastian Hans)
  Re: flushing mail (Harald Wagener)
  Onstream DI30 (Janus Loo)



From: Jonathan McBrien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling Dia on Mandrake 7.1
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:09:13 GMT

Hi,

I've been trying to compile Dia 0.86 on Mandrake 7.1 but get reports of
missing config scripts during ./configure.

The last messages output by configure are:
*** The libart-config script installed by LIBART could not be found
*** If LIBART was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the LIBART_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to libart-config.
checking for gdk-pixbuf-config... no
checking for GDK_PIXBUF - version >= 0.7.0... no
*** The gdk-pixbuf-config script installed by GDK_PIXBUF could not be found
*** If GDK_PIXBUF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the GDK_PIXBUF_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to gdk-pixbuf-config.
checking for imlib-config... no
checking for IMLIB - version >= 1.8.0... no
*** The imlib-config script installed by IMLIB could not be found
*** If IMLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the IMLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to imlib-config.

I can query the RPM database and see that the packages related to these
config scripts are installed, but I still can't find the actual scripts
themselves.

I'd appreciate some insight on how to resolve this situation.

Thanks,
- Jonathan

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From: Lars Oergel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:24:53 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> But how do I add them to LILO. I'm very new to Linux, but experienced
> in DOS and Windows and I know about partitions. Could you please
> explain how I would go about adding the correct parameters to LILO?

Suses Yast contains a LILO-Config-Tool, which you can use.
Manually it would something like:

/etc/lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda
read-only
prompt
timeout=100
# Suse 6.2
image=/boot/vmlinuz (use _your_ kernel-image file from Suse6.2 here!)
root=/dev/hda1
label=Suse6.2
# Suse 7
image=/mnt/path_to_mounted_suse7/boot/vmlinuz 
root=/dev/hda2
label=Suse7

Note: Use _one_ version of Suse to configure LILO or adapt _both_
lilo.conf-files accordingly. Don't forget to run lilo after editing
/etc/lilo.conf.

Hope it helps,

  Lars

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: pine locally through dialup?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:45:49 + (UTC)

In comp.os.linux.portable Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How would I send mail?

you would send it to local mailserver, and it would queue it and
send away when link comes up. You have two options - you may send it
directly to recipients (which may be time consuming and not recommended
for dialup hosts) or define SMART_HOST, i.e host which knows how to send
mail further in your mailserver configuration. Of course, you should use
SMTP server of your provider as smarthost.

>> Check out fetchmail.
>> 
>> means you set up a mailserver on your own pc.  fetchmail collects mail
>> from your ISP and sends it to your local mailserver.  You can then use
>> pine 

Linux-Misc Digest #361

2000-11-21 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #361, Volume #26   Tue, 21 Nov 00 04:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: documentation for LaTeX (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Donald Arseneau)
  Re: how can i check port? (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Windows Manager and Desktop Enviroment (Graham Wilson)
  Re: OpenOffice (Graham Wilson)
  Re: simple shell script variable question
  Re: Can I use another distro's kernel? (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: about .htaccess (Duane Smeckert)
  Re: Problems with CDRW Creative 8433e (Dr Aldo Medina)
  Modified Cue Cat does not work on X windows (E J)
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? ("Bob Jones")
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? ("Bob Jones")
  Re: How to apply ATA100 patch to RH7 source tree? (crackdaddy)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Claus Atzenbeck)
  Re: pop up message for quotas (Johannes Niess)
  Re: Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0 (Faux_Pseudo)
  Re: Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters... (Sebastian Palm)
  Re: documentation for LaTeX (David M. Cook)
  Re: OpenOffice (Sebastian Palm)



From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: documentation for LaTeX
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:38:40 -0500

Jan Schaumann wrote:

> * "Dan Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone point me to a good starter documentation for LaTeX.  I don't
> > doubt that it is already on my computer, but I am just wondering which
> > particular one is best to start with.  It might even help if you could
> > give me a webpage link for the most recent version.
>
> http://www.latex-project.org/
> http://www.ctan.org
> man latex
> man tex
> info latex
> info tex
>
> Probably the best thing to get into it is looking at some examples and
> the just try it. Youi get used to is quickly.
>
> > send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Nope. You ask in usenet, I answer in usenet.
>
> -Jan
>
> --
> Jan Schaumann 
>
> Win98 error 001: Unexpected condition: booted without crashing.

If you do not mind reading books, you may find:

"LaTeX A Document Preparation System(Second Edition)" by Leslie Lamport
(Addison Wesley) helpful.

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:50:24 -0500

Jean-David Beyer wrote:

> Jan Schaumann wrote:
>
> > * "Jean-David Beyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Martin Bock wrote:
> > >
> > >> Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >: Regent Linus wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >:> HelpHow could I run a perl script by crontab? thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> >: Wierd having this in green.
> > >> >
> > >> >Maybe you're using a recent tin (like me) in an ansi terminal (like
> > >> >me)? Nah ... nobody else but me uses tin to read news!
> > >> >
> > >> >Peter
> > >>
> > >> You're absolutely wrong, man, have a look at the headers of this
> > >> posting ;-)
> > >
> > > Peter may have been commenting on my remark that the original post was
> > > in HTML with a green background.
> >
> > Which is freaky in so far, as that I just had changed the default color
> > for qutoed text from blue to... guess what... green! :)
> >
> > Jean-David, you are using the wrong delimiter for your signature - you
> > should use "-- " instead of "--"
>
> I know, but I cannot do anything about it. Seems to be a bug in Netscape,
> even version 4.76. I think all the 4.7*'s have it, and perhaps all the 4.*
> for all I know.
>
> >
> >
> > -Jan
> >
> > --
> > Jan Schaumann 
> >
> > Bart:   Dad, you killed the Zombie Flanders!
> > Homer:  He was a zombie?
>
> --
>  .~.   Jean-David Beyer   Registered Linux User 85642.
>  /V\  Registered Machine73926.
> /( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
> ^^-^^  10:20pm up 7:33, 2 users, load average: 2.11, 2.07, 1.81

I wonder if this will work?

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From: Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Undelete a file in Linux
Date: 20 Nov 2000 20:28:15 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:

> when Midnight Commander has been around for
> years -- maybe it's just to make people
> be careful -- 

But mc doesn't ensure recovery surely.  From the help:

  On Linux systems, if you asked configure to use the ext2fs
  undelete facilities, you will have the undelete file
  system available.

Presuming it is installed, it is no