Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 3:25:01 AM UTC+1, Zhao Zhili wrote: > I'm an employee of allwinner, and I joined this mailing list before joined > the company. I speak for myself here. I have a Cubieboard2 (I bought it to > do real-time vibration control as a graduate students.) runing Linux and > want to playback video on that, and I saw some people have the same idea > too. I want to find a workable solution, that's all. Thank you for you introduction. That means that a community member, you, has been employed by Allwinner. Good luck on your assignment. > > > So, if we can get all of the source code from allwinner, and work out the > complete open source solution, that is the best. > > > If we can't, I want to find out just a workable solution. The graphic card > AMD radeon 545v didn't work well with open source driver until Linux kernel > 3.13. Before that, I have to use my laptop too, with AMD private driver. It > seems that no one takes the cedar binaries as a solution, no matter whether > it has been cleaned of not. I think the CedarX binaries will be used. The, legal situation, however does not compare to the AMD drivers. IMO binary software for hardware use is bad in any form. It creates a vendor lock in. But that's an other discussion. LGPL/GPL-ed source-code is free to use to a certain extend. Most important: Distributing products/binaries based on that source-codemust to be shipped with a copy of the Original licence and humanly readable copy of the Modified source-code. The CedarX is build upon GPL/LGPL code and has been already been released/shipped. And as has thus violated the license of that source-code. There is no cleaning possible any more. The only viable solution is to release all parts of the CedarX code which is based on (L)GPL code, Not just the original code but all changes made to it as well. If the copyright owner(s) of that code, which is not Allwinner. now has the power to file import/export prohibition on all devices containing CedarX code. Effectively condemning Allwinner to their local market. Until an Chinese competitor files a suit against Allwinner for shipping illegal code. Making Allwinner very vulnerable. Luc has done a thorough investigation on the latest CedarX, cleaned, form and has found that (L)GPL code still exists in binary form without the required License en Source-code copies. So either CedarX is to havely based on (L)GPL source-code to be separated. Or Allwinner does not understand the issue or the possible problems is arises. The current outcomes are perceived as, bad, attempts to silence the meek. Actions that will only fuel the conflict. Intended or not. > > > If Cedrus is the only workable solution, I will try to figure out how to > contribute to this project. If I've understand correctly the current direction is v4l2. http://linux-sunxi.org/VE_Planning > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Manuel Braga wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:51:03 +0800 Quink wrote: > > > Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local community > > > to join sunxi > > > and take part in GSOC. > > > > And everyone are welcome to join sunxi. And the GSOC idea is not bad, > > please do invite students. > > > > > That email has nothing to do with the CedarX. > > > It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more > > > > I agree, let's resolve this misunderstanding. > > Simos for whatever reason, still didn't make public what he wrote to me > > in our private exchange. And this is making me suspicious. > > > > Maybe you Quink, could help here. > > By telling, who are you?, and your connection to allwinner?, if any. > > What is you want to do? > > And, what kind of help are expected from linux-sunxi? > > > > > > > tolerant attitudes, technical discussing should not become a > > > flashpoint, and we can be more > > > > Your technical question that was made in your last email is unanswered > > because was part of an email that started with a "flashpoint". > > Let's keep the technical discussing, separated from "flashpoints". > > > > > open too. > > > > Yes, let's all be open. > > > > > > -- > > Manuel Braga > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "linux-sunxi" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to linux-sunxi...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
Am 16.03.2015, 17:04 Uhr, schrieb Luc Verhaegen : On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 04:56:10PM +0100, Irgendeiner wrote: Am 15.03.2015, 17:16 Uhr, schrieb Luc Verhaegen : On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 06:12:10PM +0200, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:51:03PM +0800, Quink wrote: ... > > Luc Verhaegen. > Luc, please, start your own thread. What you are doing is hijacking. Simos I will continue the original thread later on, Mr. Pot. Luc Verhaegen. With all due respect for your contributions, may I suggest that you stop blaming people and ranting? I further suggest that your anger about various violations of the GPL by Allwiner is strictly limited to the appropriate thread "Allwinner GPL violations: definitive proof." Thank you! I.Irgendeiner If you at all wish to be taken serious, try using your real name. Luc Verhaegen. I do know that apart from your ego you rarely take anyone else serious o__Ô For me, the argument counts before the person. I.Irgendeiner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 04:56:10PM +0100, Irgendeiner wrote: > Am 15.03.2015, 17:16 Uhr, schrieb Luc Verhaegen : > >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 06:12:10PM +0200, Simos Xenitellis wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: >>> > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:51:03PM +0800, Quink wrote: >>> ... >>> > >>> > Luc Verhaegen. >>> > >>> >>> Luc, please, start your own thread. What you are doing is hijacking. >>> >>> Simos >> >> I will continue the original thread later on, Mr. Pot. >> >> Luc Verhaegen. >> > > With all due respect for your contributions, may I suggest that you stop > blaming people and ranting? > > I further suggest that your anger about various violations of the GPL by > Allwiner is strictly limited to the appropriate thread "Allwinner GPL > violations: definitive proof." > > Thank you! > > I.Irgendeiner If you at all wish to be taken serious, try using your real name. Luc Verhaegen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
Am 15.03.2015, 17:16 Uhr, schrieb Luc Verhaegen : On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 06:12:10PM +0200, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:51:03PM +0800, Quink wrote: ... > > Luc Verhaegen. > Luc, please, start your own thread. What you are doing is hijacking. Simos I will continue the original thread later on, Mr. Pot. Luc Verhaegen. With all due respect for your contributions, may I suggest that you stop blaming people and ranting? I further suggest that your anger about various violations of the GPL by Allwiner is strictly limited to the appropriate thread "Allwinner GPL violations: definitive proof." Thank you! I.Irgendeiner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:24:59 +0800 Quink wrote: > I'm an employee of allwinner, and I joined this mailing list before > joined the company. I speak for myself here. I have a Cubieboard2 (I > bought it to do real-time vibration control as a graduate students.) > runing Linux and want to playback video on that, and I saw some > people have the same idea too. I want to find a workable solution, > that's all. Thanks for explaining, to have this information given to me in private created a burden into me, because of not be able to tell others. > > So, if we can get all of the source code from allwinner, and work out > the complete open source solution, that is the best. > > If we can't, I want to find out just a workable solution. The graphic > card AMD radeon 545v didn't work well with open source driver until > Linux kernel 3.13. Before that, I have to use my laptop too, with AMD > private driver. It seems that no one takes the cedar binaries as a > solution, no matter whether it has been cleaned of not. Speaking for myself, binaries blobs are not my business. Is not the reason why i joined sunxi, and as so, i have not desire to waste time with binaries blobs. > > If Cedrus is the only workable solution, I will try to figure out how > to contribute to this project. > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Manuel Braga > wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:51:03 +0800 Quink wrote: > > > Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local > > > community to join sunxi > > > and take part in GSOC. > > > > And everyone are welcome to join sunxi. And the GSOC idea is not > > bad, please do invite students. > > > > > That email has nothing to do with the CedarX. > > > It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more > > > > I agree, let's resolve this misunderstanding. > > Simos for whatever reason, still didn't make public what he wrote > > to me in our private exchange. And this is making me suspicious. > > > > Maybe you Quink, could help here. > > By telling, who are you?, and your connection to allwinner?, if any. > > What is you want to do? > > And, what kind of help are expected from linux-sunxi? > > > > > > > tolerant attitudes, technical discussing should not become a > > > flashpoint, and we can be more > > > > Your technical question that was made in your last email is > > unanswered because was part of an email that started with a > > "flashpoint". Let's keep the technical discussing, separated from > > "flashpoints". > > > > > open too. > > > > Yes, let's all be open. > > > > -- > > Manuel Braga > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "linux-sunxi" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- Manuel Braga -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Manuel Braga wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:51:03 +0800 Quink wrote: >> Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local community >> to join sunxi >> and take part in GSOC. > > And everyone are welcome to join sunxi. And the GSOC idea is not bad, > please do invite students. > >> That email has nothing to do with the CedarX. >> It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more > > I agree, let's resolve this misunderstanding. > Simos for whatever reason, still didn't make public what he wrote to me > in our private exchange. And this is making me suspicious. > Manuel, this is bad form. The initial email in this thread, your non-apology reply and this insinuation on "suspicious". We had a private email conversation where I asked to educate me on what can be done for the video engine, then I took my time because mid-week and you start this thread because you misread an e-mail. My impression is that even if everything go perfect in this process, something will come up and you will go "rogue". Please prove me wrong. Simos > Maybe you Quink, could help here. > By telling, who are you?, and your connection to allwinner?, if any. > What is you want to do? > And, what kind of help are expected from linux-sunxi? > > >> tolerant attitudes, technical discussing should not become a >> flashpoint, and we can be more > > Your technical question that was made in your last email is unanswered > because was part of an email that started with a "flashpoint". > Let's keep the technical discussing, separated from "flashpoints". > >> open too. > > Yes, let's all be open. > > -- > Manuel Braga > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
I'm an employee of allwinner, and I joined this mailing list before joined the company. I speak for myself here. I have a Cubieboard2 (I bought it to do real-time vibration control as a graduate students.) runing Linux and want to playback video on that, and I saw some people have the same idea too. I want to find a workable solution, that's all. So, if we can get all of the source code from allwinner, and work out the complete open source solution, that is the best. If we can't, I want to find out just a workable solution. The graphic card AMD radeon 545v didn't work well with open source driver until Linux kernel 3.13. Before that, I have to use my laptop too, with AMD private driver. It seems that no one takes the cedar binaries as a solution, no matter whether it has been cleaned of not. If Cedrus is the only workable solution, I will try to figure out how to contribute to this project. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Manuel Braga wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:51:03 +0800 Quink wrote: > > Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local community > > to join sunxi > > and take part in GSOC. > > And everyone are welcome to join sunxi. And the GSOC idea is not bad, > please do invite students. > > > That email has nothing to do with the CedarX. > > It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more > > I agree, let's resolve this misunderstanding. > Simos for whatever reason, still didn't make public what he wrote to me > in our private exchange. And this is making me suspicious. > > Maybe you Quink, could help here. > By telling, who are you?, and your connection to allwinner?, if any. > What is you want to do? > And, what kind of help are expected from linux-sunxi? > > > > tolerant attitudes, technical discussing should not become a > > flashpoint, and we can be more > > Your technical question that was made in your last email is unanswered > because was part of an email that started with a "flashpoint". > Let's keep the technical discussing, separated from "flashpoints". > > > open too. > > Yes, let's all be open. > > -- > Manuel Braga > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "linux-sunxi" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:51:03 +0800 Quink wrote: > Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local community > to join sunxi > and take part in GSOC. And everyone are welcome to join sunxi. And the GSOC idea is not bad, please do invite students. > That email has nothing to do with the CedarX. > It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more I agree, let's resolve this misunderstanding. Simos for whatever reason, still didn't make public what he wrote to me in our private exchange. And this is making me suspicious. Maybe you Quink, could help here. By telling, who are you?, and your connection to allwinner?, if any. What is you want to do? And, what kind of help are expected from linux-sunxi? > tolerant attitudes, technical discussing should not become a > flashpoint, and we can be more Your technical question that was made in your last email is unanswered because was part of an email that started with a "flashpoint". Let's keep the technical discussing, separated from "flashpoints". > open too. Yes, let's all be open. -- Manuel Braga -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 06:12:10PM +0200, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:51:03PM +0800, Quink wrote: > ... > > > > Luc Verhaegen. > > > > Luc, please, start your own thread. What you are doing is hijacking. > > Simos I will continue the original thread later on, Mr. Pot. Luc Verhaegen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:51:03PM +0800, Quink wrote: ... > > Luc Verhaegen. > Luc, please, start your own thread. What you are doing is hijacking. Simos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:51:03PM +0800, Quink wrote: > Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local community to join > sunxi > and take part in GSOC. That email has nothing to do with the CedarX. > It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more tolerant > attitudes, technical discussing should not become a flashpoint, and we can be > more > open too. I just found some lgpled symbols in your supposed "clean" binaries. I will now spend the time to irrefutably prove that Allwinner CedarX binaries are a cesspool of license violations that Allwinner has had no and still has no control over. So much for more tolerant attitudes and "misunderstandings". Allwinner has absolutely no credibility left in this story. Luc Verhaegen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local community to join sunxi and take part in GSOC. That email has nothing to do with the CedarX. It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more tolerant attitudes, technical discussing should not become a flashpoint, and we can be more open too. On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Manuel Braga wrote: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:31:47 +0200 Simos Xenitellis > wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Manuel Braga > > wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > What open source community is this? > > > When others decide at our back, don't say what are their plans, and > > > ask us to help them, and then expect us to accept the result. > > > > > > Simos, i am repented to have answered to your private emails asking > > > for help. I did in good fate, in the hopes that we all could > > > collaborate (not fight) to create great software for this hardware. > > > > > > In that private exchange, i repeated multiple times that technical > > > discussing should be made in public, but Simos i see nothing. > > > > > > > > > And is not nice to find this. > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/szdiy/goBZ5nZOEbU > > > (And no, is not a "GEM" driver, what is need, as i said to you, and > > > explained forward) > > > If this was the plan, why not present this in mailing list. > > > > > > Why this behavior, why this secretism, where is the "open"? > > > I don't understand. > > > Why don't you write in this mailing list, what you writed to me, > > > and go directly to the point. > > > > > > > > > Simos, one last thing. > > > With binaries blobs, you will no get the proper driver that you > > > wish. > > > > > > > Fuck my life.[non-native speakers: it's an expression like "what > > have I done to deserve this"]. > > Also me, what we all have done to deserve all this problems caused by > this video engine. > > > > > > Manuel, you are quoting an email that I sent to Quink BEFORE I > > consulted you. In that email it says "I asked Manuel Braga for some > > input and will come back to you." > > That email shows my BEFORE knowledge. > > > > In that email I suggested to Quink to try for GSOC because his G+ > > profile mentions > > that he is either a Uni student or a recent graduate (so his > > colleagues might find it interesting). > > Odd, in our private exchange, i got the impression that you told me > that he(Quink) was someone else. Maybe you and Quink should explain > better, who is who and what do are expecting from the rest of us. > As i asked you to do, in our private exchange. > > > (By the way, i don't know how GSOC handles binary globs) > > > > He should not have forwarded my email (it's etiquette not to forward > > private mails) but anyway, I do not hold grudges. > > @Quink: We are still good. > > > > What I see here is that you have been influenced by the negative vibes > > and interpreted that mail in the most negative/wrong way. > > Is not that email. > What is negative here is the secretism floating around. And this is not > healthy for an supposed open source community. > > > > > Simos > > And i repeat again. > Why don't you write in this mailing list, what you wrote to me, and go > directly to the point. The others also have the right to know, and i > don't see what is wrong with its content, that should not be public. > > > -- > Manuel Braga > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "linux-sunxi" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:31:47 +0200 Simos Xenitellis wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Manuel Braga > wrote: > > Hi. > > > > What open source community is this? > > When others decide at our back, don't say what are their plans, and > > ask us to help them, and then expect us to accept the result. > > > > Simos, i am repented to have answered to your private emails asking > > for help. I did in good fate, in the hopes that we all could > > collaborate (not fight) to create great software for this hardware. > > > > In that private exchange, i repeated multiple times that technical > > discussing should be made in public, but Simos i see nothing. > > > > > > And is not nice to find this. > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/szdiy/goBZ5nZOEbU > > (And no, is not a "GEM" driver, what is need, as i said to you, and > > explained forward) > > If this was the plan, why not present this in mailing list. > > > > Why this behavior, why this secretism, where is the "open"? > > I don't understand. > > Why don't you write in this mailing list, what you writed to me, > > and go directly to the point. > > > > > > Simos, one last thing. > > With binaries blobs, you will no get the proper driver that you > > wish. > > > > Fuck my life.[non-native speakers: it's an expression like "what > have I done to deserve this"]. Also me, what we all have done to deserve all this problems caused by this video engine. > > Manuel, you are quoting an email that I sent to Quink BEFORE I > consulted you. In that email it says "I asked Manuel Braga for some > input and will come back to you." > That email shows my BEFORE knowledge. > > In that email I suggested to Quink to try for GSOC because his G+ > profile mentions > that he is either a Uni student or a recent graduate (so his > colleagues might find it interesting). Odd, in our private exchange, i got the impression that you told me that he(Quink) was someone else. Maybe you and Quink should explain better, who is who and what do are expecting from the rest of us. As i asked you to do, in our private exchange. (By the way, i don't know how GSOC handles binary globs) > He should not have forwarded my email (it's etiquette not to forward > private mails) but anyway, I do not hold grudges. > @Quink: We are still good. > > What I see here is that you have been influenced by the negative vibes > and interpreted that mail in the most negative/wrong way. Is not that email. What is negative here is the secretism floating around. And this is not healthy for an supposed open source community. > > Simos And i repeat again. Why don't you write in this mailing list, what you wrote to me, and go directly to the point. The others also have the right to know, and i don't see what is wrong with its content, that should not be public. -- Manuel Braga -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[linux-sunxi] Re: What open source community is this?
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Manuel Braga wrote: > Hi. > > What open source community is this? > When others decide at our back, don't say what are their plans, and > ask us to help them, and then expect us to accept the result. > > Simos, i am repented to have answered to your private emails asking for > help. I did in good fate, in the hopes that we all could collaborate > (not fight) to create great software for this hardware. > > In that private exchange, i repeated multiple times that technical > discussing should be made in public, but Simos i see nothing. > > > And is not nice to find this. > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/szdiy/goBZ5nZOEbU > (And no, is not a "GEM" driver, what is need, as i said to you, and > explained forward) > If this was the plan, why not present this in mailing list. > > Why this behavior, why this secretism, where is the "open"? > I don't understand. > Why don't you write in this mailing list, what you writed to me, and go > directly to the point. > > > Simos, one last thing. > With binaries blobs, you will no get the proper driver that you wish. > Fuck my life.[non-native speakers: it's an expression like "what have I done to deserve this"]. Manuel, you are quoting an email that I sent to Quink BEFORE I consulted you. In that email it says "I asked Manuel Braga for some input and will come back to you." That email shows my BEFORE knowledge. In that email I suggested to Quink to try for GSOC because his G+ profile mentions that he is either a Uni student or a recent graduate (so his colleagues might find it interesting). He should not have forwarded my email (it's etiquette not to forward private mails) but anyway, I do not hold grudges. @Quink: We are still good. What I see here is that you have been influenced by the negative vibes and interpreted that mail in the most negative/wrong way. Simos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
