Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:10:59 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2003 10:42 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: Ensure the Windoze box has the correct IP and matching subnet mask. Also that it lists your upstairs box as the gateway. I'd also check the DNS addresses. It has 192.168.1.2 as its IP 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 as GW 210.49.48.1 as DNS primary, this is all I have I did notice it came up as 210.49.48.1.opt that's OK. Then run: iptables -F iptables -X iptables -t nat -F iptables -t nat -X iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source 210.49.48.75 iptables -N tcprules iptables -A tcprules -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT iptables -A tcprules -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j ACCEPT iptables -A tcprules -m state --state NEW -i ! eth1 -j ACCEPT iptables -A tcprules -m state --state INVALID -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -j tcprules iptables -A INPUT -j tcprules sysclt net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 Ran into trouble at last command, says sysclt 'command not found'. One of those systems that doesn't use sysctl. Well, the equivalent is: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and try again. Ciao, David A. Bandel I still tried it out but the failure of the last command may have stuffed it. However no go. I have not rebooted as yet amd going to do so now. If it works will mail you pronto. no, you said you had ip_forward=1. I just always run sysctl as part of my firewall script to make sure. Well, Keith, for what it's worth, everything on the Linux side looks good. I'd reboot the XP system downstairs (actually, I'd boot it up with KNOPPIX) to see if it gets fixed. Your problem almost certainly lies with the XP system. Can't help you much there, XP is way too hosed for me. I have to Call Someone Else. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing ot
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:22:06 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your problem almost certainly lies with the XP system. Can't help you much there, XP is way too hosed for me. I have to Call Someone Else. Just an aside. I had to replace my wife's winders PC (always locking up) this weekend. The back to school special at my local PC store for $350 was a pretty decent Celeron machine (2Gz 256M 40G harddrive LAN card etc.) with WinXP Professional. The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the necessary files from the ailing PC in short order. We should have such a simple procedure for linux that stores all the parameters including Samba. I'm able to use Office97, but my CD writer software fails to install on XP (bummer). My Lexmark Z53 software is only marginal under WinXP, but I was able to download the current drivers. I'm not rushing out to convert everything to WinXP, but from my perspective (occasional use) it's not really hosed at all, at least no more so than any M$ product. It's still a virus waiting to happen. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing ot
--- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the The secret here is that you got XP Pro, which has full networking support. It can still get tricky. If the automatic settings don't work, manual configuration is a real dog and it will keep trying to go back to the automatic settings. XP Home edition has minimal networking support. It's a dog and should be banned from all computer systems, along with Windows ME, its close cousin. You can boot up with Knoppix and get the same kind of automatic networking and Samba support is built in. It has Linneighborhood installed and has almost always found other computers on the network for me. Gary __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DSL Gotcha .... NT SCO Binaries
Ok, having worked for a Telco for 3 years (Their Motto : All the Finest School our Techs can attend), I feel I can throw a little light on this as well. Currently, yes there is a Limit, on the run from the CO (Dslam) equipment, and as D.B pointed out, there are a LOT of other things that go into the equation, such as line quality, line conditions, (Does the Telco still use airial 30 year old copper? How do the maintain their plant? ..etc..etc..). I know for a fact that a SMALL ILec, up in the Delta here in Mississippi, has offered DSL for a NUMBER of years for all of their Subscribers. Why? Because the Owners had the foresight to run FIBER to all the most remote demarc's and put in true DIGITIAL remotes. Now, RBOC's probably arent't as interested in doing it this, whoud cost to much money and affect their quartlerly earnings. Now for the GOOD news. The RBOC's, (having succesfully gotten REVOKED the Wholesale rate they may charge to Clec's), were required to run and supply Broadband to ALL of even the remotest locations, as part of this agreement by the FCC. Now, those who are still fighting trying to get DSL, might want to ask the ILEC to supply in the interium: A: SDSL (Dsl over Isdn) .. or .. B: 4 wire DSL (DSL thru a T1 style connection, but tarriffed like a DSL). Ok now on to the new thread: Need help on running SCO Binaries on LINUX on the latest kernel. Anyone hav any luck getting Linux-abi to work? Currently the test Box is running OpenLinux 1.3 with iBcs running on it, and it works, but I would (for this Project) like to go to the latest stuff. Thanks .. Raymond Russell wrote: SNIP Shawn DSL wont go over fiber it has to copper from end to end unless there is a SNIP -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dvd burners
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Collins Richey wrote: I'm getting lots of positive feedback from gentooers - at least one recommending each of the above mentioned tools g. There is also something called dvdrip for copying dvds. You should try again. Imagine that: http://sxs.sourceforge.net/sxs/multimedia/dvdrip.html -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing ot
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Collins Richey wrote: The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the necessary files from the ailing PC in short order. We should have such a simple procedure for linux that stores all the parameters including Samba. joy. let's all get file print sharing by default. sign me right up. NOT. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Severn (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:03:38 -0400 From: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Severn Thank you gentlemen. This is rumor control. Here are the facts. As some of you know, new Red Hat Linux Beta bits crash landed here at 1000 on the morning watch. There was one survivor. Two dead processes, and a daemon that was hopelessly smashed beyond repair. The survivor is called SEVERN. It's that time again. (Time to floss?) (Time to make a gooky?) No, it's time for a Red Hat Linux Beta, named SEVERN. I just want to say that I took a vow of stability. That also includes betas. We all took the vow. Now let me say, that I for one, do not appreciate Company policy allowing beta bits to freely intermingle... Cheeky bastard, right sir? What brother means to say is ... We view the presence of any outside OS, beta, as a violation of the stability, a potential break in the spiritual unity. We are well aware of your feelings in this matter. You will be pleased to know that I have requested a testing team - Hopefully, they will be here inside of a few hours and evaluate it A.S.A.P. As always, betas such as SEVERN are not intended for use on production environments. Use as such could lead to your machines being slaughtered like pigs by the dragon. Or just public laughter. Problems with SEVERN should be reported via bugzilla, at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ What's its development status? It doesn't seem too horrendously in flux. Difficult at this moment to make a specific diagnosis. Among other things, SEVERN has: - a new graphical boot - GCC 3.3 - an updated 2.4.21 kernel - updated Evolution and Mozilla - and more! Will it live? Yes, I should think so. Look, none of us here is naive. It's in everybody's best interests if this beta doesn't come out into production until the testing team is through with it. And certainly not without the proper qualification and bug reports. Right? So we should all stick to our set routines and not get unduly agitated. Correct? All right. Thank you gentlemen. Speaking of unduly agitated... there's lots of rumors going on about Red Hat Linux. We've been doing it for nearly ten years now, and in that time, there's been various changes. From rpp to RPM, from Red Hat Commercial Linux to Official Red Hat Linux, from 'install' to anaconda. And now, we're making another change. We changed the rules. We said our Linux should be your Linux. Just as most of the software in Red Hat Linux is developed in an open fashion, so should Red Hat Linux itself; driven by those who develop, test, document, and translate. To accomplish this, we're opening up our process. Now this is an evolution, not a revolution. The first steps will be moving much of our development discussions and schedules external, via mailing lists and other means, and including external developers in the process of making technical decisions. More will be done from there. Red Hat Linux will remain as it has been; a freely available general purpose operating system, released on the average every six months. For more information, see: http://rhl.redhat.com/ For discussion of SEVERN, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe in the subject line. You can leave the body empty. Or see: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhl-beta-list/ As always, you can get SEVERN at redhat.com, specifically: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/beta/severn/ Or the following mirrors: North America: United States: ftp://moni.msci.memphis.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ http://moni.msci.memphis.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ ftp://linux.stanford.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/RedHat/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/beta/severn/ ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ Canada: ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ ftp://ftp.nrc.ca/pub/systems/linux/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/linux/beta/severn/ South America: Brazil: http://bastion.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn ftp://bastion.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn Chile: ftp://ftp.tecnoera.com/Linux/redhat-beta/severn/ Europe: Austria: ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/beta/severn/ http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/beta/severn/
compiler question
I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? b) Will I need some special tools to go with 3.3 (I'll of course read the read me about things I'll need for 3.3) c) Is there some clever way that I might switch between 2.95.2 and 3.3? gcc at the command line presumably knows only my most recent compiler. General suggestions about switching would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 10:56 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? One gotcha... The 3.3 compiler has some stricter rules on strings and will not compile anything under kernel 2.4.21 I believe although the problems are few and could be patched I suppose. The older kernels have strings that don't fit the new rules. b) Will I need some special tools to go with 3.3 (I'll of course read the read me about things I'll need for 3.3) c) Is there some clever way that I might switch between 2.95.2 and 3.3? gcc at the command line presumably knows only my most recent compiler. General suggestions about switching would be appreciated. Thanks! -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 07/21/03 11:05 + ++ Losing your driver's license is just God's way of saying BOOGA, BOOGA! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:02 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically I just wrote a gcc-3.3 SxS. I just started to read this after I posted. a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? Looks like Redhat has built a 2.4.21 kernel with gcc-3.3. Now I don't know what you mean by a 'small change'. I'd say that its not a good idea to build new kernel modules with one compiler, and the kernel with another, regardless of the versions of gcc. I don't build with modules, I just use the 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach, and recompile the whole thing and back up the old one. I might want to make just one change in the config file. snip c) Is there some clever way that I might switch between 2.95.2 and 3.3? gcc at the command line presumably knows only my most recent compiler. See my SxS. There are a few different tricks, but i've found setting the CC env var to the location of the gcc that you wish to use to be the best solution. It is not clear to me what switches put gcc3 into usr/local/bin (or is that the default?). Right now my gcc is in usr/bin. General suggestions about switching would be appreciated. I've not run into any gcc specific problems since upgrading. Now going to glibc-2.3.x is another story altogether (mucho headaches). I've heard this is not pleasant. Why would I need to do this? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:07 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 10:56 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? One gotcha... The 3.3 compiler has some stricter rules on strings and will not compile anything under kernel 2.4.21 I believe although the problems are few and could be patched I suppose. The older kernels have strings that don't fit the new rules. Ops!! I think I will need to switch between compilers. Thanks for the warning! snip -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 08:02 am, Net Llama! wrote: a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? Looks like Redhat has built a 2.4.21 kernel with gcc-3.3. Now I don't know what you mean by a 'small change'. I'd say that its not a good idea to build new kernel modules with one compiler, and the kernel with another, regardless of the versions of gcc. I don't build with modules, I just use the 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach, and recompile the whole thing and back up the old one. I might want to make just one change in the config file. OK, so you build monolithic kernels? IN that case, its a brand new kernel, and shouldn't be a problem. c) Is there some clever way that I might switch between 2.95.2 and 3.3? gcc at the command line presumably knows only my most recent compiler. See my SxS. There are a few different tricks, but i've found setting the CC env var to the location of the gcc that you wish to use to be the best solution. It is not clear to me what switches put gcc3 into usr/local/bin (or is that the default?). Right now my gcc is in usr/bin. /usr/local/bin is the default location for the resulting binaries for gcc-3.x. General suggestions about switching would be appreciated. I've not run into any gcc specific problems since upgrading. Now going to glibc-2.3.x is another story altogether (mucho headaches). I've heard this is not pleasant. Why would I need to do this? Not to build gcc-3.x, no. However, alot of newer stuff is wanting glibc-2.3.x. You *do* need gcc-3.x to build glibc-2.3.x though. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
My reply is mixed within your original text... On Monday 21 July 2003 10:56 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? You mean on the source code level and then recompiling it with gcc 3.3? No problems... b) Will I need some special tools to go with 3.3 (I'll of course read the read me about things I'll need for 3.3) Just follow the requirements in linux/documentation/changes and you'll be ok. c) Is there some clever way that I might switch between 2.95.2 and 3.3? gcc at the command line presumably knows only my most recent compiler. I tried that under gentoo and I failed. Therefore I just stuck with the gcc I compiled. Now some of my personal observations in regards to gcc 3.3. That version is still considered the cutting edge of development. I've had some problems getting certain programs to compile that usually ended up with gcc segfaulting. Not pretty. That said, gcc version 3.2.3 has been real stable and has yet to have any internal compile problems or errors. However, some very old sources will not compile with it or any of the 3.x compilers. So far, nothing important has failed to compile, just odd stuff like old games, etc. Be aware, your milage may vary... One very big gotcha in moving from 2.9.x to 3.x.x... if you recompile your glibc or anything else critical to system operations, you can never go back to the 2.9.x series of gcc as the new compiler generates version specific libraries... General suggestions about switching would be appreciated. Thanks! -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:41am up 10 days, 20:39, 4 users, load average: 0.86, 0.92, 0.90 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:33 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 08:02 am, Net Llama! wrote: snip I've not run into any gcc specific problems since upgrading. Now going to glibc-2.3.x is another story altogether (mucho headaches). I've heard this is not pleasant. Why would I need to do this? Not to build gcc-3.x, no. However, alot of newer stuff is wanting glibc-2.3.x. You *do* need gcc-3.x to build glibc-2.3.x though. I think someone suggested buying a distro with glibc-2.3.x already built-in rather than trying to install it. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: I think someone suggested buying a distro with glibc-2.3.x already built-in rather than trying to install it. yea, but i'm a glutton for punishment. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 12:13 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 08:32 am, Jerry McBride wrote: My reply is mixed within your original text... On Monday 21 July 2003 10:56 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? You mean on the source code level and then recompiling it with gcc 3.3? No problems... Any remarks from anyone about Bruce's comment on kernels lower than 2.4.21 not compiling with 3.3?? I'm running SuSE 8.2 which has gcc-3.3 installed. It is supplied with a 2.4.20 kernel, but heavily patched. I downloaded a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel to roll my own and it wouldn't compile due to the string problems. That's how I discovered it. The 2.4.21 kernel compiles fine. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 07/21/03 12:18 + ++ One should never make one's debut in a scandal. One should reserve that to give interest to one's old age. - Oscar Wilde ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
I've compiled 2.4.20 with 3.2.3 and no errors. On Monday 21 July 2003 12:13 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 08:32 am, Jerry McBride wrote: My reply is mixed within your original text... On Monday 21 July 2003 10:56 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? You mean on the source code level and then recompiling it with gcc 3.3? No problems... Any remarks from anyone about Bruce's comment on kernels lower than 2.4.21 not compiling with 3.3?? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:55am up 10 days, 21:53, 4 users, load average: 1.18, 0.96, 0.88 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 09:20 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 12:13 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote: snip Any remarks from anyone about Bruce's comment on kernels lower than 2.4.21 not compiling with 3.3?? I'm running SuSE 8.2 which has gcc-3.3 installed. It is supplied with a 2.4.20 kernel, but heavily patched. I downloaded a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel to roll my own and it wouldn't compile due to the string problems. That's how I discovered it. The 2.4.21 kernel compiles fine. Well, OK. I'm gonna download all the junk I need and try the Llama dual-compiler switch. I think I'll stay away from glibc 2.3.x. I don't like pain. We know the Lllama does; over there workin' for VA Soft ;-) Thanks everyone for all for compiler suggestions!! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
poll: best pop3 and imap servers?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 subject about says it all. what pop3 and imap servers does everyone prefer? and why? thanks - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org PROGRAM - n. A magic spell cast over a computer allowing it to turn one's input into error messages. v. tr.- To engage in a pastime similar to banging one's head against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/HDIT2MO5UukaubkRAmzmAJ9dDrTq7Z7QwJ6S92/KauxGQKkhYACfatzx tqgUj96XARbDbBn6DZnTx0E= =1nQD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 02:33:53PM -0400, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 subject about says it all. what pop3 and imap servers does everyone prefer? and why? thanks Courier-imap. It uses standard Maildir mailboxes, limiting access to that directory (as opposed to UW IMAP which allows the IMAP client to read/write anyplace on the system the user can), and it's easy to use with standard *ix tools (e.g. deliver, procmail). Furthermore courier-imap uses multiple authentication daemons, similar to apache's multiple httpd daemons, so it doesn't run out of inetd. There are multiple authentication methods in addition to the normal system's user authentication including LDAP and MySQL. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.'' ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:33:53 -0400, Douglas J Hunley wrote: subject about says it all. what pop3 and imap servers does everyone prefer? and why? thanks If your MTA is qmail, then use Courier IMAP (I'm using qmail + Couriel + vpopmail on my hosting server). If your MTA is anything else, use Cyrus IMAP. Although it's somewhat more complicated to setup compared to Courier, it has several advantages: builtin support for newsgroups, server side mail filtering with remote admin (sieve), many auth methods (SQL, LDAP, PAM, sasldb2, etc) really scalable (it even has builtin support for partitioned servers using an agregator) stand alone server (works somewhat similar to postfix) no need to system accound for each mail user I'm using it on some servers. AFAIK most comercial products based on OSS also use Cyrus (ie Bynari Insight server, SCOoffice Mail Server and I think SuSE OpenExchange). Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPxw3+hRcJRaVKt4XEQJUhQCcC1VzW8Ly1Dkvjehkd4tQSXF0tGYAn2N3 wwCxQWh1YsZBRtR2VdT4U3h8 =ZWLu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Federico Voges shocked and awed us all by speaking: If your MTA is qmail, then use Courier IMAP (I'm using qmail + Couriel + vpopmail on my hosting server). sendmail born-and-bred. ;) If your MTA is anything else, use Cyrus IMAP. Although it's somewhat more complicated to setup compared to Courier, it has several advantages: does it do POP3 as well? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/HFKi2MO5UukaubkRArSOAKCpvo//YKenjaaymGGe34v12niMKQCgsjCM borMll69EPi4DwzcReThWXY= =a0Ev -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Campbell shocked and awed us all by speaking: Courier-imap. It uses standard Maildir mailboxes, limiting access to that directory (as opposed to UW IMAP which allows the IMAP client to read/write anyplace on the system the user can), and it's easy to use with standard *ix tools (e.g. deliver, procmail). Furthermore courier-imap uses multiple authentication daemons, similar to apache's multiple httpd daemons, so it doesn't run out of inetd. There are multiple authentication methods in addition to the normal system's user authentication including LDAP and MySQL. sounds impressive. does it do POP3 as well? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org A day without sunshine is like... night. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/HFJZ2MO5UukaubkRAuTmAJ92tGKvx6NGk9bdlLRSYRFob9thdACggkog FhX9eU+a7/AQ7arByD/K2aY= =IQf6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Monday 21 July 2003 07:22 am, David A. Bandel wrote: no, you said you had ip_forward=1. I just always run sysctl as part of my firewall script to make sure. Well, Keith, for what it's worth, everything on the Linux side looks good. I'd reboot the XP system downstairs (actually, I'd boot it up with KNOPPIX) to see if it gets fixed. Your problem almost certainly lies with the XP system. Can't help you much there, XP is way too hosed for me. I have to Call Someone Else. Ciao, David A. Bandel many thanks David for all that effort; you only confirm what I was getting to suspect that the problem lies with the box downstairs. So it does look like that I will have to do a reinstall. Mind you I should have known as i did an upgrade to XP from 98 on it, that very often does mean its flaky. Was just hoping to get away with it, law of averages and Murphy work against that. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dvd burners
On Monday 21 July 2003 07:33 am, Collins Richey wrote: BTW, I failed to get in on the welcome back, Keith series, so here it is now. Sorry, Mr.Richey but the black mark stays!! :) -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: [OT] Finding Screen Resolution
Folks,
Net Llama! wrote:
hrmmm, this got me wondering. on one of my boxes i have:
xdpyinfo | egrep 'resol|dimen'
dimensions:1600x1200 pixels (383x290 millimeters)
resolution:106x105 dots per inch
is it normal for the 'resolution' to be rectangular, rather than
square?
It is normal for the dots-per-inch to be square. Otherwise images are
distorted. 106x105 is *not* so off that it will cause observable
distortion, however.
Many thanks to Llama Kurt for ways to check resolution. My screen
resolution reads the same on both laptops:
Bailey:root:/root:992 # xdpyinfo | egrep 'resol|dimen'
dimensions:1024x786 pixels (347x260 millimeters)
resolution:75x75 dots per inch
I've taken this topic Off Topic, because it must be some combination of
programming and system setup. Coders with thoughts are welcome to
contribute.
The java code below is identical on both machines:
---
TestsApp( String title )
{
super( title );
int xPad = 10;
int yPad = 10;
int width = 10;
int height = 10;
Font butnFont = new Font( Courier, Font.BOLD, 14 );
FontMetrics butnFontMet = getFontMetrics( butnFont );
int butnHeight = ( 6 * butnFontMet.getHeight() ) / 2;
int butnWidth = butnFontMet.stringWidth( ARCHIVE LOGS ) + xPad;
GridBagLayout nfcs = new GridBagLayout();
GridBagConstraints constr = new GridBagConstraints();
setLayout( nfcs );
Color col = new Color( 255, 255, 255 );
testFrame = (Frame)this;
width = ( ( butnWidth + xPad ) * 4 ) + xPad;
height = ( 2 * ( textHeight + yPad ) ) + ( 8 * ( butnHeight + yPad ) ) +
yPad;
this.setSize( width, height );
...
}
---
Yet when executed on them (with data dumps to show results) I find these
results:
Laptop Bailey wobbly
Text Height 25 25
Head Width 468 364(width of header string)
xPad10 10
yPad10 10
Button Wid 142 106
Button Hgt 45 42
Width 618 474
Height 520 496
Now, one might reasonably conclude that given the same font (courier) and
the same font size (14) and the same font style (bold) and the same string
(ARCHIVE FILES) that the calculation of the size of any of these things
would be the same. Not so in this case. Bailey is RedHat 6.2 installed by
the folks at Emperor Linux. Wobbly is Gentoo 1.4 installed by myself.
However, I have another laptop with Red Hat 7.0 on it (also installed by the
Emperor Linux people) that shows the same compressed display that wobbly
does. The window in question is nicely spaced out on Bailey, just as
designed. The window on wobbly has the buttons run into each other and the
text of some of the buttons running into the borders. If I hard code
wobbly's window size to match that calculated in Bailey it looks as desired.
The font appears (to my engineer's eye) to be identical in size and shape on
both machines.
I'm still researching why, but if anyone has ideas I'm open to suggestions.
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Re: network problem: internet sharing ot
On Monday 21 July 2003 07:56 am, Collins Richey wrote: Just an aside. I had to replace my wife's winders PC (always locking up) this weekend. The back to school special at my local PC store for $350 was a pretty decent Celeron machine (2Gz 256M 40G harddrive LAN card etc.) with WinXP Professional. The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the necessary files from the ailing PC in short order. We should have such a simple procedure for linux that stores all the parameters including Samba. I'm able to use Office97, but my CD writer software fails to install on XP (bummer). My Lexmark Z53 software is only marginal under WinXP, but I was able to download the current drivers. I'm not rushing out to convert everything to WinXP, but from my perspective (occasional use) it's not really hosed at all, at least no more so than any M$ product. It's still a virus waiting to happen. That is what I do get normally. However if there has been a problem or it was an update to XP, one can and does get problems which do not seem to relate to what has gone before. I had it working then it just stopped after a reboot. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing ot
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:11 am, Gary Wilson wrote: --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the The secret here is that you got XP Pro, which has full networking support. It can still get tricky. If the automatic settings don't work, manual configuration is a real dog and it will keep trying to go back to the automatic settings. XP Home edition has minimal networking support. It's a dog and should be banned from all computer systems, along with Windows ME, its close cousin. You can boot up with Knoppix and get the same kind of automatic networking and Samba support is built in. It has Linneighborhood installed and has almost always found other computers on the network for me. Gary I am sure that others here will know what I mean when I say that Daughter was brought up in a office with windows. So I REALLY hesitate to give her anything else. I am already blamed for upgrading from 98. It is a temporary networking as she graduates as a teacher in Nov and can go anywhere in Queensland then. Oh! for peace a nd quiet again. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
Quoth Jerry McBride: I tried that under gentoo and I failed. Therefore I just stuck with the gcc I compiled. Now some of my personal observations in regards to gcc 3.3. That version is still considered the cutting edge of development. I've had some problems getting certain programs to compile that usually ended up with gcc segfaulting. Not pretty. That said, gcc version 3.2.3 has been real stable and has yet to have any internal compile problems or errors. However, some very old sources will not compile with it or any of the 3.x compilers. So That's more an issue with the sources than the compiler. GCC has gotten progressively better about standards compliance far, nothing important has failed to compile, just odd stuff like old games, etc. Be aware, your milage may vary... One very big gotcha in moving from 2.9.x to 3.x.x... if you recompile your glibc or anything else critical to system operations, you can never go back to the 2.9.x series of gcc as the new compiler generates version specific libraries... Bah. Then GCC was built with the version-specific-libs switch, and it shouldn't have been, for precisely this reason. That said, there *are* some issues of ABI incompatbility between 3.2 and 3.3 and the way it interacts with the GNU C library, but that's a matter for the GCC and GLIBC folks to settle in the parking lot... Kurt -- Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
update SCO Group, a company that says Linux infringes on its Unix intellectual property, announced on Monday that it has been granted key Unix copyrights and will start a program to let companies that run Linux avoid litigation by paying licensing fees. Please refer the link for details. http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5047571.html?tag=fd_lede1_hed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dvd burners
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:36:23 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 07:33 am, Collins Richey wrote: BTW, I failed to get in on the welcome back, Keith series, so here it is now. Sorry, Mr.Richey but the black mark stays!! :) The one thing I've learned over almost as many years as you but not quite is how to piss people off. The balck mark is permanent. g -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
On Mon July 21 2003 09:48 pm, Linux Novice wrote: update SCO Group, a company that says Linux infringes on its Unix intellectual property, announced on Monday that it has been granted key Unix copyrights and will start a program to let companies that run Linux avoid litigation by paying licensing fees. This is caused by the fact we have WAY too many lawyers in this country trying to generate inane cases to make a buck. What do you call a bus half filled with lawyers going over a cliff? A waste of space. Just my opinion. Harry G PS: Don't sue me. I am married and broke. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?
I use qmail. I do not use IMAP. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406 FAX www.LynchDigital.com -Original Message- From: Douglas J Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 subject about says it all. what pop3 and imap servers does everyone prefer? and why? thanks - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org PROGRAM - n. A magic spell cast over a computer allowing it to turn one's input into error messages. v. tr.- To engage in a pastime similar to banging one's head against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/HDIT2MO5UukaubkRAmzmAJ9dDrTq7Z7QwJ6S92/KauxGQKkhYACfatzx tqgUj96XARbDbBn6DZnTx0E= =1nQD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
Well, you know, it's only 99% of the lawyers that give all the rest of them a bad name!! From: Harry Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is caused by the fact we have WAY too many lawyers in this country trying to generate inane cases to make a buck. What do you call a bus half filled with lawyers going over a cliff? A waste of space. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
Quoth Linux Novice: update SCO Group, a company that says Linux infringes on its Unix intellectual property, announced on Monday that it has been granted key Unix copyrights and will start a program to let companies that run Linux avoid litigation by paying licensing fees. Please refer the link for details. http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5047571.html?tag=fd_lede1_hed They can collect their license fee if they come to my door, ask for it, and survive the blast from my street howitzer. Kurt -- An Englishman never enjoys himself, except for a noble purpose. -- A. P. Herbert ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
On Mon July 21 2003 10:31 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: They can collect their license fee if they come to my door, ask for it, and survive the blast from my street howitzer. I KNEW there was a reason I always liked you! Harry ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
Is the original letter spam? BTW: If you are trapped in a cage with a lion, a poisonous snake, and a lawyer, and have a gun with two bullets, what should you do? Ans: Shoot the lawyer twice. Being philosophical, I guess we hate lawyers because they use the legal system as a lever to rob honest and productive people. Proof: Lawyers hardly every sue a poor lazy person with no assets. There is little difference between organized crime and the legal system, when you think about it. The lawyers work within the law and the criminals work outside the law, but they are both doing the same thing. Settle disputes for a price, keep the peace, and demand a piece of the action. If left uncontrolled, they pauperize everyone. Actually, there is a law professor, I have heard, at Northeastern U. in Boston, who makes all his students in one class file a class action suit as part of their course work. It was suggested that the students sue the professor for encouraging frivolous suits. I am not sure if any of his students followed that suggestion, however. Joel iOn Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 10:08:50PM -0400, Harry Giles wrote: On Mon July 21 2003 09:48 pm, Linux Novice wrote: update SCO Group, a company that says Linux infringes on its Unix intellectual property, announced on Monday that it has been granted key Unix copyrights and will start a program to let companies that run Linux avoid litigation by paying licensing fees. This is caused by the fact we have WAY too many lawyers in this country trying to generate inane cases to make a buck. What do you call a bus half filled with lawyers going over a cliff? A waste of space. Just my opinion. Harry G PS: Don't sue me. I am married and broke. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 10:41:43PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Is the original letter spam? BTW: If you are trapped in a cage with a lion, a poisonous snake, and a lawyer, and have a gun with two bullets, what should you do? Ans: Shoot the lawyer twice. Being philosophical, I guess we hate lawyers because they use the legal system as a lever to rob honest and productive people. Proof: Lawyers hardly every sue a poor lazy person with no assets. There is little difference between organized crime and the legal system, when you think about it. The lawyers work within the law and the criminals work outside the law, but they are both doing the same thing... ``There is no distincly native American criminal class save Congress'' -- Mark Twain One might note that most legislators are lawyers. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``We believe...that a mugger will kill you in the half-second it takes to draw from the holster, but won't harm you while you dial the police on your cell phone, talk to the dispatcher and wait half an hour for officers to arrive.'' -- Gun-Control Net-work Credo ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DSL Gotcha
Subject: Re: DSL Gotcha Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:17:18 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Raymond Russell: On 7/20/03 0:03, Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have DSL any more but when I did my installer used CAT-5 cable and put RJ11 connectors on it, this helped a lot. I was far out from the CO so I needed every little bit of help. I'm 12,269 feet from the CO. Which, to me, seems odd that another measely 25 feet makes any difference at all. I am taking my transmition lines class for my EE degree this summer. The line length and termination characteristics make a *HUGE* difference to the signal quality. The phone company can balance the line to close to your home (I am not sure how close) but what happens inside is difficult to adjust for. I used to think that any length of cat 5 was perfectly fine and good but that just ain't so. If you are at the wrong point in the signal wavelength, you will have problems. -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
Keith, I know I am just the clueless newbie here but before you reinstall XP I just want to clarify the problem in my head. The modem goes to the linux box through an ethernet card. The linux box works. The linux box has a second ethernet card that is connected to the XP box elsewhere. The XP box can ping the linux box. (I hope this is correct.) Can the XP box ping an address on the wild wild web? (Using the ip address as the name will not work.) If it can then the issue could be the linux box not routing the DNS lookup correctly. If you cannot then the linux box is not acting as a router and it should be. I am NOT suggesting that the XP install is perfect but I still have my doubts that it is the entire problem given the above picture in my head. If you can ping the web from the XP box, it may be the DNS stuff not configured correctly somewhere. I would think that is easier to fix than doing a reinstall. (Although I would suggest a clean install rather than an upgrade from dos to NT, which is what 98 to XP is.) -- Alma Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:43:16 -0400 On Monday 21 July 2003 08:11 am, Gary Wilson wrote: --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the The secret here is that you got XP Pro, which has full networking support. It can still get tricky. If the automatic settings don't work, manual configuration is a real dog and it will keep trying to go back to the automatic settings. XP Home edition has minimal networking support. It's a dog and should be banned from all computer systems, along with Windows ME, its close cousin. You can boot up with Knoppix and get the same kind of automatic networking and Samba support is built in. It has Linneighborhood installed and has almost always found other computers on the network for me. Gary I am sure that others here will know what I mean when I say that Daughter was brought up in a office with windows. So I REALLY hesitate to give her anything else. I am already blamed for upgrading from 98. It is a temporary networking as she graduates as a teacher in Nov and can go anywhere in Queensland then. Oh! for peace a nd quiet again. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
