Re: Network question
Hmmm, OK well I to take care of the occassional laptop I would install dhcpd on one of the linux/Unix boxes and configure a small 192.168.x.x DHCP scope to hand out an IP address when needed. If you have the occassional Windows box then you will be needing samba at some point. Installing samba is easy, if using a package based linux and configuration is trivial because it comes with SWAT a web based configuration utility. Just install samba-server and swat on the *nix box, then point you browser to http://localhost:901 You could also use ftp for file sharing between boxes by installing wu-ftpd or vs-ftpd or similar. NFS is not something I have had a lot to do with so I will let others comment on it. If you could let us know which version of Linux you have then we can advise how to test for the correct software. If you have a rpm based distribution (redhat mandrake etc) then doing rpm -qa | grep -i insert_search_word_here will show you what you have installed . hope this helps I've had UNIX and/or Linux at home for a very long time, but always just one or two independent machines that didn't need to share anything. Then I broke down and got printer sharing working. Now I think I really need to share files. The question: What's easiest to set up? I have a 3-computer network (4 counting an occasional laptop), and I mostly want to do backups over the net by having the old clunky machine with the CD-RW directly copying files. It would be easiest if the subject machine didn't have to get too involved, and I'm not much worried about consistency here. I'm mostly worried about fire and/or dying disk drives, so a little bit of inconsistency is the least of my worries. There are several 36-GB drives involved, but the actual backup traffic will be lots smaller than that. So I'm thinking NFS or perhaps Samba. I'm not using Windoze much, but it does show up from time to time. So: where do I get information? How do I tell if the software's already on my machine? What solutions should I consider? ++ kevin -- Dr. Kevin O'Gorman (805) 756-2986 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kogorman ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
StarOffice 7 user question
StarOffice 7 user question: I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how it should be. When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However, at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in files. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 4:27 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: StarOffice 7 user question: I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how it should be. When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However, at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in files. I get the same results here on an Athlon 800mhz with SCSI drives... And I don't think it really is starting any faster than StarOffice 6.0 did. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/12/03 07:08 + ++ Hansen's Library Axiom: The closest library doesn't have the material you need. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Love on board
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:45, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2003 02:02 pm, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:01:57 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So yes, he had a hand in many of today's circumstances; however, I choose to disassociate today's SCO from Ransom Love's Caldera that created eDesktop 2.4. (Ahh, the memories of my early newbiness.) Speaking of which, I was wandering through a MicroCenter store just yesterday and found a copy of Caldera OpenLinux between the RedHats and SuSEs. Shades of yesteryear. So my question is, if you bought that and loaded it up, would you be guilty of violating some SCO license? g And could you get the tech support advertised on the box? The way I would read that is you could run it without threat from SCO since it is their product and it is based on the 2.2 series kernel instead of the 2.4. I don't think you would get support on it though since its past its support end of life date. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Are you using Calendars from the exchange server? Yep. Been working fine. I don't get invited to very many meetings but the ones I have gotten and I've replied to have added nicely to the calender. The same with ones that I've sent out. They updated the calender fine. But like I said, I don't do those very often. It has also worked well just for my basic calendering needs of adding an item and setting a reminder. What version of Evolution are you running? How about of GTK and all that? Running it on RH 9 and KDE. 1.4.5 on Evolution. GTK+ 1.2.10-25 and GTK2-2.2.1-4. Connector 1.4.5. I keep these updated via Ximian Red Carpet. And what version of exchange server do you access? 2000 Here it crashes just about every time when closing. In the previous release, it was also crashing when it was started. I was having that problem with 1.4.4 I believe but it went away when I upgraded to 1.4.5. I think ximiam had released a fix pretty quickly IIRC. We have Evolution 1.4.5 and gtk 2.4.0. I don't know what the version of exchange server is running. It has just been updated, so it is surely recent. Strange. I know that you have to have outlook web access enablde for it work work right. Could that be part of it? Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - The savior becomes the victim. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apt question
Did you do an apt-get update before the apt-get upgrade after you changed you sources.list file? If you didn't, apt is still hitting the sid repository instead of the experimental. Yes, thankfully I've got the whole update/upgrade thing figured out. It turned out that what I really needed was to pick a different mirror. The one I was using was not up-to-date. I now have XFree86 4.3 and all's well. Thanks much, -Aaron ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:00:13 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Are you using Calendars from the exchange server? Yep. Been working fine. I don't get invited to very many meetings but the ones I have gotten and I've replied to have added nicely to the calender. The same with ones that I've sent out. They updated the calender fine. But like I said, I don't do those very often. It has also worked well just for my basic calendering needs of adding an item and setting a reminder. What version of Evolution are you running? How about of GTK and all that? Running it on RH 9 and KDE. 1.4.5 on Evolution. GTK+ 1.2.10-25 and GTK2-2.2.1-4. Connector 1.4.5. I keep these updated via Ximian Red Carpet. And what version of exchange server do you access? 2000 Here it crashes just about every time when closing. In the previous release, it was also crashing when it was started. I was having that problem with 1.4.4 I believe but it went away when I upgraded to 1.4.5. I think ximiam had released a fix pretty quickly IIRC. I am using 1.4.5. However, I am running it on Gentoo. So, the Connector is not compiled in my platform. All the rest of Evolution is compiled locally. But the Connector is closed source. Ximian only make the binary available. We have Evolution 1.4.5 and gtk 2.4.0. I don't know what the version of exchange server is running. It has just been updated, so it is surely recent. Strange. I know that you have to have outlook web access enablde for it work work right. Could that be part of it? The web access is enabled. I can access everything (mail and calendars), but it likes to crash on exit. Outlook mail is IMAP. At least when we set up access to the exchange server as an imap server, all is ok. It acts funny when we set up access as an exchange server to get the calendars. My wife has a gazillion calendar entries. The web access nicely only shows the ones for this month, and thus only downloads those. Probably settable. However, evolution seems to read all the calendar entriesyou have. If you have a couple of hundred, this takes a bit of time. My wife has calendar entries for the past few years. Perhaps if I could tell evolution to only read a subset of them it may not crash, and be faster to boot. I have not seen this option. Or where to tell evolution which browser to use for http links. It does not find my Firebird. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - The savior becomes the victim. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OSS Alternative to RealPlayer
Can anyone point me to an OSS alternative to RealPlayer for streaming audio. (If it had both Linux and Windows versions would be even better.) Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: My wife has a gazillion calendar entries. The web access nicely only shows the ones for this month, and thus only downloads those. Probably settable. However, evolution seems to read all the calendar entriesyou have. If you have a couple of hundred, this takes a bit of time. My wife has calendar entries for the past few years. Perhaps if I could tell evolution to only read a subset of them it may not crash, and be faster to boot. I have not seen this option. Or where to tell evolution which browser to use for http links. It does not find my Firebird. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 Are you running Evolution under kde, gnome or some other desktop? If under kde go to control center kde components file associations text html and move up the preferred browser you want to use as default. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: OT The Grinch who stole Linux
-Original Message- From: Alan Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] James Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A very funny parody... http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031106164630915 I just had a bizarre thought. Parody of a copywritten work is a protected form of expression. What would a parody of copywrite protected code be? 8-) Or music, or videos? Well, one *could* consider Linux a parody of Windows. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ReiserFS Problem
Folks, I've been running SuSE 8.0 on my home system (primary desktop/mail-reader/web surfer) for some time. My boot and / disk is a 20GB EIDE disk (master on 1st IDE). I decided to upgrade to SuSE 9.0 while adding an additional NIC and a 250GB EIDE drive. So I carefully saved some data and shut down normally. I disconnected the old boot disk to insure nothing could happen to it. I had troubles booting off the new disk, so I re-connected the old disk to boot from it. No luck. The reiserfs is showing problems. The error message asks for the root password to allow me to repair it and says it is mounted read only, so it shows how to mount it r/w so I can run reiserfsck and fix it. I try that. Can't run portions of the fix/test if it is mounted read/write. So I tried it in read only mode. It can't run other portions of the test/fix if it is read only. Neither way can complete the fix of the disk so it will boot or is even usable. BIOS recognizes the disk. The /boot partition is ext2, the / partition is reiserfs. I'm open to suggestions. At work now, so I can't test this, but I suspect that I should have popped in my Knoppix CD and gotten it up and running and used it to fix the hard drive. Does that sound feasible? There may be a more severe hardware problem (see following plea for help). In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
NYTimes.com Article: I.B.M. Helps Promote Linux
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Re: OSS Alternative to RealPlayer
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Can anyone point me to an OSS alternative to RealPlayer for streaming audio. (If it had both Linux and Windows versions would be even better.) Can't help with the windoze side, but mplayer can do realaudio realvideo. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ReiserFS Problem
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, I've been running SuSE 8.0 on my home system (primary desktop/mail-reader/web surfer) for some time. My boot and / disk is a 20GB EIDE disk (master on 1st IDE). I decided to upgrade to SuSE 9.0 while adding an additional NIC and a 250GB EIDE drive. So I carefully saved some data and shut down normally. I disconnected the old boot disk to insure nothing could happen to it. I had troubles booting off the new disk, so I re-connected the old disk to boot from it. No luck. The reiserfs is showing problems. The error message asks for the root password to allow me to repair it and says it is mounted read only, so it shows how to mount it r/w so I can run reiserfsck and fix it. I try that. Can't run portions of the fix/test if it is mounted read/write. So I tried it in read only mode. It can't run other portions of the test/fix if it is read only. Neither way can complete the fix of the disk so it will boot or is even usable. BIOS recognizes the disk. The /boot partition is ext2, the / partition is reiserfs. I'm open to suggestions. At work now, so I can't test this, but I suspect that I should have popped in my Knoppix CD and gotten it up and running and used it to fix the hard drive. Does that sound feasible? There may be a more severe hardware problem (see following plea for help). I'll admit outright up front, that i know nothing about Reiser, but with all the other filesystems i've used, you can't run a fsck unless its unounted or readonly. Maybe reiserFS is different in that respect, but i'd be quite surprised if they managed to design the FS so that it could be writable while being repaired. If you've got KNOPPIX, or some other rescue bootable disk handy, i'd suggest using that and not even mounting the / partition, and trying to repair it again. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Problem booting from disk
Folks, The first part will look a bit like the last message, but that is just the background. Please read on. I've been running SuSE 8.0 on my home system (primary desktop/mail-reader/web surfer) for some time. My boot and / disk is a 20GB EIDE disk (master on Primary IDE). I decided to upgrade to SuSE 9.0 while adding an additional NIC and a 250GB EIDE drive. So I carefully saved some data and shut down normally. I disconnected the old boot disk to insure nothing could happen to it. I'm having troubles booting off the new disk. So I pulled out the SCSI card and disconnected the SCSI disks to insure they would not be interfering or be harmed. No change. I've set the BIOS to only boot from floppy or CD, but I still get a Failed to boot from HD error message that indicates I should go to the setup or hit F1 to continue. So, I finally figured that I *could* continue with the process by hitting F1 (I'm getting older and slower every day) and that it would then boot from the CD. So I've started the SuSE install process and it has taken my data, partitioned and formatted the disk, installed the preliminary software and data and reboots the system to complete the install. Oops. I get the same Failed to boot from HD problem (with or without BIOS selection of HD as a boot option). Hitting F1, however, restarts the SuSE install process. Complete with determining hardware and asking for partition setup (so it can re-partition and format the disk). Stuck in a 45 minute loop! Turning the BIOS option to boot from hard disk back on, removing the SuSE CD from the drive -- neither had any effect, singly or jointly. At this point I'm trying the SuSE Failsafe install (which I notice does not recognize the USB Flash Card reader), but don't expect that to work, either. If it doesn't I'll try resetting the BIOS to the Failsafe settings (which didn't allow for all of my hardware). However, I'm curious about what can cause this problem. Why is it failing an HD boot when there is no HD boot option selected in the BIOS? Is my not very old motherboard toast? In a previous message I mentioned that it also balks on booting from the previous HD, claiming problems with the ReiserFS partition (which should have been fine after a gentle shut down). This implies a problem with the hardware of the motherboard, or the BIOS, to my non-hardware oriented mind. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
I received the Update version SUSE 9.0 Professional yesterday and installed it last night. The first things I noted were: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) 2. The DVD was bad. (Or do you need a special DVD reader for double-sided DVD's?) I could boot up from the DVD and start the installation; but the installation program could not find the applications. I had to install from the CDROM's. 3. I have a Linksys ethernet PCI card and a Cisco Aironet PCI card. The Cisco card was configured as wlan0. I had to configure the Linksys card to go nowhere (no cable is attached, no do not activate at boot up option seen in yast) and: mv /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan0 /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth1 to establish wireless connectivity. 4. An evaluation CD of iAnywhere's (Sybase) SQL Anywhere Studio for Linux was included in the box. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ReiserFS Problem
quoth Condon Thomas A KPWA: | I've been running SuSE 8.0 on my home system (primary | desktop/mail-reader/web surfer) for some time. My boot and / disk is | a 20GB EIDE disk (master on 1st IDE). I decided to upgrade to SuSE | 9.0 while adding an additional NIC and a 250GB EIDE drive. So I | carefully saved some data and shut down normally. I disconnected the | old boot disk to insure nothing could happen to it. I had troubles | booting off the new disk, so I re-connected the old disk to boot from | it. i had something similar when i went from 7.2 to 8.2 -- removed the old drive and when the install went fubar, old drive wouldn't work anymore. really weird. | No luck. The reiserfs is showing problems. The error message asks | for the root password to allow me to repair it and says it is mounted | read only, so it shows how to mount it r/w so I can run reiserfsck | and fix it. I try that. Can't run portions of the fix/test if it is | mounted read/write. So I tried it in read only mode. It can't run | other portions of the test/fix if it is read only. Neither way can | complete the fix of the disk so it will boot or is even usable. i think you're making a mistake in reading the instructiuons here. give the root password and then run reiserfsck /dev/hdX, where X is the / partition. *then* you can mount r/w. the same confusion can result from the ambigious instructions when plain old e2fsck is called for. i think that if you try that, you may achieve success. | At work now, so I can't test this, but I suspect that I should have | popped in my Knoppix CD and gotten it up and running and used it to | fix the hard drive. Does that sound feasible? yup -- but first, try running reiserfsck without mounting the drive r/w. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem booting from disk
Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, The first part will look a bit like the last message, but that is just the background. Please read on. giant snip Could your BIOS have been corrupted? Could yo try to flash it with newer upgrade? Might try that before for new MB. Bob ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Braindead Windows
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:02:05 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I consulted for a place once that, when I told IS I wanted to run linux on the in-house computer they gave me to use, basically threated to fire me. I literally had to hide the linux partition on the box. I'm not there anymore, and I'm sure the partition is still there. They probably can't figure out why the hard disk only appears to be half as big as it is supposed to be. Been there, done that, had (like you) the last laugh! Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:48, Ted Ozolins wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: My wife has a gazillion calendar entries. The web access nicely only shows the ones for this month, and thus only downloads those. Probably settable. However, evolution seems to read all the calendar entriesyou have. If you have a couple of hundred, this takes a bit of time. My wife has calendar entries for the past few years. Perhaps if I could tell evolution to only read a subset of them it may not crash, and be faster to boot. I have not seen this option. Or where to tell evolution which browser to use for http links. It does not find my Firebird. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 Are you running Evolution under kde, gnome or some other desktop? If under kde go to control center kde components file associations text html and move up the preferred browser you want to use as default. I run it under KDE 3.1.4. I do not think Evolution looks at the KDE settings. At least it seems that it does not. I get the following error when I click on a url in Evolution: (evolution-1.4:4222): evolution-mail-WARNING **: gnome_url_show: There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location. I would expect it to use GNOME settings. As I do not run Gnome, this is not set. I have a rather recent GNOME installed. Maybe I need to fire it up so I can set this... -- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
Has anyone done an update to an existing 8.2 system? Or will I be in a bad mood tomorrow evening? -- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: a great site for following sco v. ibm
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:52:37 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: neat site. and no, i have no connection whatsoever with it. -- Hey, dep, you don't have to say it twice! :-) Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem booting from disk
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:31, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: [snip of tales of woe] In a previous message I mentioned that it also balks on booting from the previous HD, claiming problems with the ReiserFS partition (which should have been fine after a gentle shut down). This implies a problem with the hardware of the motherboard, or the BIOS, to my non-hardware oriented mind. Not being facetious but have you set the HD jumpers to be the master or stand-alone? Make sure the IDE cable is plugged into the mb with the pins aligned right? Older motherboards often don't have the guides on them. Also, some bioses (IBM's come to mind) keep giving the error until you enter the bios and exit saving changes. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - No matter how old a mother is, she watches her middle-aged children for signs of improvement. -- Florida Scott-Maxwell ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 15:34 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Has anyone done an update to an existing 8.2 system? Or will I be in a bad mood tomorrow evening? I don't do updates anymore... just new installs but no one over on the SUSE list has had any real problems with an update. Most go just flawlessly and the others may have a niggle or two. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/12/03 15:55 + ++ Go Hawaiian: Give your gal a lei. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem booting from disk
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:31, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: [snip of tales of woe] In a previous message I mentioned that it also balks on booting from the previous HD, claiming problems with the ReiserFS partition (which should have been fine after a gentle shut down). This implies a problem with the hardware of the motherboard, or the BIOS, to my non-hardware oriented mind. Not being facetious but have you set the HD jumpers to be the master or stand-alone? Make sure the IDE cable is plugged into the mb with the pins aligned right? Older motherboards often don't have the guides on them. Also, some bioses (IBM's come to mind) keep giving the error until you enter the bios and exit saving changes. Actually, Intel mobos have a BIOS option to 'clear errors', which is neccesary or you keep getting the same failure, over over, even if the problem no longer exists. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Problem booting from disk
Not being facetious but have you set the HD jumpers to be the master or stand-alone? Make sure the IDE cable is plugged into the mb with the pins aligned right? Older motherboards often don't have the guides on them. Also, some bioses (IBM's come to mind) keep giving the error until you enter the bios and exit saving changes. The old drive is set to master. The new drive was set to master when attempting it alone, and slave when attempting it with both drives (both drives on the primary bus, the CD on the secondary bus). I've had bad luck with cable select, so I avoid that. The IDE cable is still plugged into the MB as it was when the machine was working fine to start with. I'll check that again when I get home, though. I've had to unplug and replug everything on an MB to make a machine come back to life before. I exited the BIOS saving changes several times. When it didn't work the first time I tried taking the HD out of the boot list and had to save that change. To get to the reboot from HD (to continue the install) I had to put it back in, saving again. The MB isn't that old -- an Abit VL7 model, IIRC. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:42:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) Do we? 2. The DVD was bad. (Or do you need a special DVD reader for double-sided DVD's?) No. I could boot up from the DVD and start the installation; but the installation program could not find the applications. I had to install from the CDROM's. I had no problems at all with the DVD. 4. An evaluation CD of iAnywhere's (Sybase) SQL Anywhere Studio for Linux was included in the box. Yes, it was. I've yet to play with it. Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:03 pm, Terence McCarthy wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:42:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) Do we? I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) 2. The DVD was bad. (Or do you need a special DVD reader for double-sided DVD's?) No. I could boot up from the DVD and start the installation; but the installation program could not find the applications. I had to install from the CDROM's. I had no problems at all with the DVD. 4. An evaluation CD of iAnywhere's (Sybase) SQL Anywhere Studio for Linux was included in the box. Yes, it was. I've yet to play with it. Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SCO Subpeonas Linus...
...and others: SCO said Wednesday that it has filed subpoenas with the U.S. District Court in Utah, targeting six different individuals or organizations. Those include Novell; Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel; Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation; Stewart Cohen, chief executive of the Open Source Development Labs; and John Horsley, general counsel of Transmeta. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5106450.html Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Problem booting from disk
Actually, Intel mobos have a BIOS option to 'clear errors', which is neccesary or you keep getting the same failure, over over, even if the problem no longer exists. Thanks, Lonni. I'll try to find that option tonight. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Braindead Windows
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 12:22 pm, Terence McCarthy wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:02:05 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I consulted for a place once that, when I told IS I wanted to run linux on the in-house computer they gave me to use, basically threated to fire me. I literally had to hide the linux partition on the box. I'm not there anymore, and I'm sure the partition is still there. They probably can't figure out why the hard disk only appears to be half as big as it is supposed to be. Been there, done that, had (like you) the last laugh! Yeah, except they went broke and still owe me some money. That hidden linux partition led to their downfall, no doubt! g -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) Remember Ambrose Beirce (The Devil's Dictionary) A cynic is a man whose faulty vision sees things as they are, and not as they ought to be. :-)) Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OSS Alternative to RealPlayer
You might check mplayer. Michael Hipp wrote: Can anyone point me to an OSS alternative to RealPlayer for streaming audio. (If it had both Linux and Windows versions would be even better.) Thanks, Michael -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
Consuming 0.5K bytes, Terence McCarthy blathered: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) Remember Ambrose Beirce (The Devil's Dictionary) A cynic is a man whose faulty vision sees things as they are, and not as they ought to be. :-)) Indeed. Although I personally prefer Bierce's definition of optimist, A proponent of the doctrine that black is white. Kurt -- Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. Johnson's Corollary: Nobody really knows what is going on anywhere within the organization. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spamassassin's sa-learn
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:16 +0800 M.W. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you ever toyed with the Bayesian learner? I wonder where SA stores her rules. It's not *really* Bayesian - I don't think any of them are. They all ignore the cross-correlation. That is, they don't correct for the fact that enlarge and p...s frequently occur together, and sum the probabilities. To do it right is hard. I used to run a Bayesian filter at work, until they disabled Unix e-mail at the end of October, and it worked fairly well. At home I run a homebrew. First I run a whitelist of known good addresses, then I look for e-mail lists, then spamassassin, and then I run my UniqIP filter. I keep a little database of every IP I have seen in the handoff to my ISPs, and if I have never seen it before, I drop it into a special folder. I also note spam IP's in the database as well. About 95% of my spam currently comes from unique IP's. Apparently the blacklists are effective enough that the big time spammers now use a Hedy Lamar style multiplexing technology, and blast small loads from many compromised systems. I'm also working on a spam detector utilizing DNA sequencing technology. Seriously! -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1 ot
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:44:47 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consuming 0.5K bytes, Terence McCarthy blathered: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) Remember Ambrose Beirce (The Devil's Dictionary) A cynic is a man whose faulty vision sees things as they are, and not as they ought to be. :-)) Indeed. Although I personally prefer Bierce's definition of optimist, A proponent of the doctrine that black is white. And the classic (unknown origin): The optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible worlds; the pessimist believes that this is true. Or my favorite: A man has two sons, an optimist and a pessimist. For Christmas he gives the pessimist a bright shiny new bicycle. The pessimist scowls - it will probably break or get stolen or I'll scrape my knee. He gives the optimist a sack of horse turds. The optomist grins from ear to ear - I know there's a pony here somewhere. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Matrix III
Just in case you've read the bad reviews and got turned off, Matrix III is at least 2x as good as Matrix II. The reviewers must like mindless, repetitive kung fu and must not like interesting dialogue that probes the meaning of the human experience, heavily interlaced with the usual astounding special effects. There was even some drama in this one. There wasn't much kung fu, either, must to my relief. Oh yea, it would really have been great if Keanu Reeves had pretended to act, but, I guess wishing for Sean Connery in every scene spoils some of the fun. Disclaimer I said this was OT, didn't I ?/disclaimer Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Matrix III
I agree with your assessment. This movie was a proper end to a bad a@@ trilogy. The film critics I've read seemed to have missed the real message in the movie. Definitely a good one to see. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2003 09:32:49 PM: Just in case you've read the bad reviews and got turned off, Matrix III is at least 2x as good as Matrix II. The reviewers must like mindless, repetitive kung fu and must not like interesting dialogue that probes the meaning of the human experience, heavily interlaced with the usual astounding special effects. There was even some drama in this one. There wasn't much kung fu, either, must to my relief. Oh yea, it would really have been great if Keanu Reeves had pretended to act, but, I guess wishing for Sean Connery in every scene spoils some of the fun. Disclaimer I said this was OT, didn't I ?/disclaimer Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs. org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- This message (including any attachments) may contain information which is confidential or privileged. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this message by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy. -- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Matrix III
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:32 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: Just in case you've read the bad reviews and got turned off, Matrix III is at least 2x as good as Matrix II... DITTO! I took my son and his buddy last Friday night... My son's buddy was so blown away by the movie that he bear hugged me outside of the theater... after a few moments he came to his senses and just stood there and smiled... As for the movie reviewers... It's like anything else... you hit yourself in the head with a hammer... poke yourself in the eye with a screwdriver... and you're a seasoned mechanic... Same for them... :') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:06pm up 43 days, 2:59, 7 users, load average: 0.03, 0.08, 0.05 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OSS Alternative to RealPlayer
--- Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Can anyone point me to an OSS alternative to RealPlayer for streaming audio. (If it had both Linux and Windows versions would be even better.) Can't help with the windoze side, but mplayer can do realaudio realvideo. For windows, check out media player classic. It's GPL and gets rid of all the realads. http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/ Gary __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Matrix III
Consuming 1.8K bytes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] blathered: I agree with your assessment. This movie was a proper end to a bad a@@ trilogy. The film critics I've read seemed to have missed the real message in the movie. Definitely a good one to see. No surprise there. Since we're on a Bierce kick tonight: CRITIC, n. A person who boasts himself hard to please because nobody tries to please him. Kurt -- One monk said to the other, The fish has flopped out of the net! How will it live? The other said, When you have gotten out of the net, I'll tell you. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Matrix III
On 11/12/03 19:32, Joel Hammer wrote: Just in case you've read the bad reviews and got turned off, Matrix III is at least 2x as good as Matrix II. The reviewers must like mindless, repetitive kung fu and must not like interesting dialogue that probes the meaning of the human experience, heavily interlaced with the usual astounding special effects. There was even some drama in this one. There wasn't much kung fu, either, must to my relief. Oh yea, it would really have been great if Keanu Reeves had pretended to act, but, I guess wishing for Sean Connery in every scene spoils some of the fun. I saw it, and found it to be one of the worst movies i've ever seen, completely devoid of plot, acting, or suspense. Save your money for LOTR-RTK. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:42am up 1 day, 10:29, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.04, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
another warm fuzzy from M$
Slashdot: Experiences w/ Drive Imaging Software? Microsoft supplies no method of backing up and restoring fully operational copies of Windows 2000 and Windows XP. Microsoft's advice is to reinstall the operating system and all programs every time you want to move to a new or backup computer. I read that twice before I realized they weren't joking. Makes you want to run out and buy an XP machine right now grin. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
I just tried to time the starts on three machines. The older version of Star Office (6.0) let me count to 15 (one one thousand, two one thousand, etc) before it was started on a 1 gig duron with 256meg. SO 5.2 on an .8 gig Athlon and 770 megs took so long I thought it wasn't going to start (got to over 20 counting before I gave up counting, but it finally started, maybe in 25 secs.) On a 1 gig duron with 650megs SO 7.0 started up by the time I got to 5. So, startup time is reduced by 66% in my tests, which I consider official and final. I can't compare SO 6 and SO 7 on the same machine because SO 7 removed SO 6 when it was installed. Joel On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:10:06AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 4:27 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: StarOffice 7 user question: I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how it should be. When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However, at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in files. I get the same results here on an Athlon 800mhz with SCSI drives... And I don't think it really is starting any faster than StarOffice 6.0 did. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/12/03 07:08 + ++ Hansen's Library Axiom: The closest library doesn't have the material you need. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
