Re: tar + bunzip2
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:20:53 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:08:55 -0500 > John Voigt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You can also use the -j option to tar: > > > > # tar -xjvf file.tar.bz2 > > My tar does not list this. If the file is gzip'd, then the 'z' option > can be used as you suggest. I really need to update my work desktop. I > see this option on a newer box. Perhaps your version uses 'I' instead of 'j'. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:59:18 -0600 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: > > > http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html > > > > > > This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO > > > and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. > > > > I see nothing wrong with it. How would you propose that the GPL be > > enforced? > > > > What I read from this is an interpretation of the GPL that could > loosely be expressed as "what is mine is mine, what is yours is also > mine." I personally don't believe that such an interpretation has any > real benefit, although I'm certain that proponents of the GPL might > disagree. No. The GPL simply means that if you distribute software that I wrote or a derivative thereof, you must distribute it under the GPL. If you don't want to, then don't use my code. Write your own. At least the GPL gives you the choice. Think about it. Do you want to spend your time writing a piece of software, distribute it along with the source code so that others can improve upon it, and have someone steal it and close the source. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: net radio
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:30:38 -0700 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Davidson wrote: > > >On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700 > >Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla? > >Many> > >>that I have tried use a url including "playlist=..." which opens to > >a >blank window. > >> > >> > > > >http://www.shoutcast.com > > > >Bill > > > > > > > > I used shoutcast for a while, but quit for some time, and having tried > > it recently, it seems the links (those 'Tune In!' buttons) don't work. > > They open a blank window, and the status bar says done. That's strange. Do you have a helper application set for the mime type audio/x-scpls? If not, maybe you could try setting one. xmms perhaps. Bill Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: net radio
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:09:23 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:59 am, Bill Davidson wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700 > > > > Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla? > > > Many > > > > > > that I have tried use a url including "playlist=..." which opens > > > to a blank window. > > > > http://www.shoutcast.com > > > > Bill > > My mozilla says it does not know what to do with the file. version 1.5 > beta. You need to tell mozilla what to do with it. I use xmms. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: net radio
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla? Many > > that I have tried use a url including "playlist=..." which opens to a > blank window. http://www.shoutcast.com Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP scanners on Linux.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:27:40 -0700 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, can anybody recommend current scanners that are well > supported under Linux? My current need is for a pretty vanilla flat > bed scanner, but we will also need ones with automatic document > feeders. Check the sane website for supported devices: http://www.mostang.com/sane/sane-mfgs.html Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam issues
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:03:09 -0400 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From an end user perspective, I've found Mozilla's junk mail > filtering > to be fantastic at determining what's junk and what's not. Much better > > than plain SpamAssassin. Although, current SpamAssassin is supposed to > > be able to do Bayesian analysis, it's not nearly as user friendly as > using Mozilla Mail. But for KMail's superiority in handling mailing > lists, I'd have moved my home e-mail to Mozilla already. > > I had found a link that described how to automate the use of > SpamAssassin's Bayesian filtering, but I haven't actually tried it > yet. > here it is: > http://spamassassin.rediris.es/doc/sa-learn.html I've been using popfile for a while and it works great. It also uses Bayesian filtering. http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Drive geometry question
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:17:38 -0700 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If only the cylinders differ, then its most likely an lba32 scheme of > some sort. If i were a betting man, i'd say that you're safe to let > freebsd muck around. Well, if you were a betting man, you'd be a winner. I decided to just give it a go and it worked alright. Thanks. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Drive geometry question
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Bill Davidson wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:37:44 -0400 (EDT) > > Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Bill Davidson wrote: > > > > I decided to install FreeBSD and give it a try. My drive > > > > geometry is set to 193821 cyls/63 sectors/16 heads. FreeBSD's > > > > fdisk says that's > > > > > > Where are you reading that geometry? > > > > That's what FreeBSD reports to find. I also get that from linux > > fdisk. I just don't understand what will happen if I partition the > > drive using a different geometry, or if it even matters. > > No, i meant the geometry that you think it should be compared to the > gemoetry that FreeBSD thinks it should be. Here are the recommended settings from the western digital website for this drive model: 16383 cyls/63 sectors/16 heads Hmm... That's odd. Only the cylinders are different from what I've got. > > > > incorrect and wants to use 12161 cyls/63 sectors/ 255 heads. Is > > > > it safe to go ahead and create a FreeBSD partition with this > > > > drive geometry? I would prefer not to hose everything installing > > > > this ;) > > > > > > Could be that FreeBSD is doing some kind of LBA32 equivalent. > > > > So this is harmless? > > maybe. i've never used *BSD, so i don't know how it determines the > CSH numbers. If no one else pipes up here, you'd be safest to ask on > a FreeBSD list. Alright. I thought this might be more of a generic pc question. I guess not. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Drive geometry question
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Bill Davidson wrote: > > I decided to install FreeBSD and give it a try. My drive geometry is > > set to 193821 cyls/63 sectors/16 heads. FreeBSD's fdisk says that's > > Where are you reading that geometry? That's what FreeBSD reports to find. I also get that from linux fdisk. I just don't understand what will happen if I partition the drive using a different geometry, or if it even matters. > > incorrect and wants to use 12161 cyls/63 sectors/ 255 heads. Is it > > safe to go ahead and create a FreeBSD partition with this drive > > geometry? I would prefer not to hose everything installing this ;) > > Could be that FreeBSD is doing some kind of LBA32 equivalent. So this is harmless? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT] Drive geometry question
I decided to install FreeBSD and give it a try. My drive geometry is set to 193821 cyls/63 sectors/16 heads. FreeBSD's fdisk says that's incorrect and wants to use 12161 cyls/63 sectors/ 255 heads. Is it safe to go ahead and create a FreeBSD partition with this drive geometry? I would prefer not to hose everything installing this ;) TIA, Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Can't read CD in linux, can in xp
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:37:48 -0400 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At work I created a data cd with images, large and small (300kb up to > 33 megs), with easy CD creator or some such. I ran the option to make > the cd readable by all cd readers. This was on windows 2000. > > At home, this disk refuses to load properly with caldera 2.4 on one > box and lindows on a second box. The transfer just sorta gives up, > with the few images that got transferred having file errors. I double > boot xp on the second machine, so I booted into xp, and the images > transferred OK to the hard drive. And, they are readible when I boot > back into lindows and read them off the windows hard drive. So, it's > not the cdrom rom, and the images appear to be intact after being > transferred up with xp. > > So, the question is, what happened? Why can't linux read this cd? Does your kernel have the joliet filesystem enabled? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Strange Reboot problem ...
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:11:57 +0200 (CEST) Javier Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am having a strange problem with one of my computers and I > am not able to discover where is the problem. Maybe someone > on the list have had a similar experience... > > The computer aparently is running normally but suddenly it > reboot itself without any warning or message. > > Sometimes it happen whan I am not at home so when I arrive > I found the computer at the initial boot prompt, but also > a couple of times the computer have reboot while I was > working on it. I'd suspect harware. I had this problem shortly after I added a harddrive. It turned out to be the power supply. I'm not sure if it was going bad or if it just wasn't providing enough power for the new hardware. Anyway, HTH. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hosed my system. Knoppix won't fix it.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:30:51 -0400 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to have hosed my system. > > After rebuilding the kernel, I guess I ought to have run lilo again, > for the umpteemth time, which I didn't bother doing. > > Now when I try to boot, no matter which image I use, it just hangs up > during boot. I booted up with knoppix and chroot'ed to my proper root > directory. When I try to run lilo I am told that /dev/hda is not > available or somesuch. This is in my lilo.conf > > boot=/dev/hda > map=/boot/map > > I have also noticed that /boot is empty, no map there! > > So, the question is, what is the way to get the system to boot again. > > Thanks, > > Joel /boot is empty? Are you sure it was mounted? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need some Gentoo tips...
On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 19:05:34 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey list. > > As a new gentoo bigot... How does one re-arrange the startup scripts? > On the laptop thta I'm testing gentoo on, during shutdown pcmcia goes > down and takes eth0 with it... before the net-eth0 script runs > when the net-eth0 script runs, since eth0 is already down, it prints a > nasty message that eth0 hasn't been started yet... It's bogus. > > What I think should be happening is... net-eth0 should run before > pcmcia during shutdown. If I do this manually, it works beautifully... > > So, how does one re-arrange the shutdown scripts in gentoo? Perhaps this will help: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rc-scripts.xml Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: how to direct select output to insert input
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:44:50 -0800 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/27/03 19:37, Bill Davidson wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:11:37 -0800 > > "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 03/27/03 19:10, Bill Davidson wrote: > >> > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:45:33 -0800 > >> > "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> i've got an Oracle (9i, if that matters) problem. i need to > >> >> essentially copy all the data from a single column (call it a) > >in a> >> table into a different column (call it b) in the same table. > > both > >> >a> and b are the same datatype, and b is currently empty. i've > >tried> >the> following, but it fails: > >> >> insert into table_foo (b) values ((select a from table_foo)); > >> >> > >> >> i think the problem is that its attempting to insert all the > >rows> >from> a into a single row of b. i just don't know how to work > >around> >this. > anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks! > >> > > >> > How about: > >> > insert into table_foo (b) select a from table_foo; > >> > >> ORA-01400: cannot insert NULL > > > > I was just about to correct that post. INSERT creates a new row. It > > sounds like you need to UPDATE. I don't know how to to update > > multiple rows with different data. Sorry. > > why would i want to update? there's nothing in b yet to update, which > is why i thought inserting was the way to get the data in there. INSERT inserts rows, not columns. If you INSERT like you tried you'll get new rows with only column b filled with data. That won't even work if you try unless all the other fields are optional (which would be highly irregular, to say the very least). I don't have a lot of experience with SQL, just from college, where I'm in my final year, so I can't help you much more than that. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: how to direct select output to insert input
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:11:37 -0800 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/27/03 19:10, Bill Davidson wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:45:33 -0800 > > "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> i've got an Oracle (9i, if that matters) problem. i need to > >> essentially copy all the data from a single column (call it a) in a > >> table into a different column (call it b) in the same table. both > >a> and b are the same datatype, and b is currently empty. i've tried > >the> following, but it fails: > >> insert into table_foo (b) values ((select a from table_foo)); > >> > >> i think the problem is that its attempting to insert all the rows > >from> a into a single row of b. i just don't know how to work around > >this. > anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks! > > > > How about: > > insert into table_foo (b) select a from table_foo; > > ORA-01400: cannot insert NULL I was just about to correct that post. INSERT creates a new row. It sounds like you need to UPDATE. I don't know how to to update multiple rows with different data. Sorry. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: how to direct select output to insert input
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:45:33 -0800 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've got an Oracle (9i, if that matters) problem. i need to > essentially copy all the data from a single column (call it a) in a > table into a different column (call it b) in the same table. both a > and b are the same datatype, and b is currently empty. i've tried the > following, but it fails: > insert into table_foo (b) values ((select a from table_foo)); > > i think the problem is that its attempting to insert all the rows from > a into a single row of b. i just don't know how to work around this. > anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks! How about: insert into table_foo (b) select a from table_foo; Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /. down?
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:09:43 -0500 Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An unnamed Administration source, dep, wrote: > % begin Net Llama!'s quote: > % > % | mind sharing how you were 0wn3d ? > % > % apparently an exploit in php-nuke or, possibly, php. they didn't get > > % the whole thing -- just one very limited posting account. they also > % did not get the logfiles, which are being prepared for our friends > at % the doj. they probably didn't realize that they were committing a > > % federal felony. i hope that they come to learn this, and i believe > % that they will. because when they get to the federal can, bubba in > % the upper bunk will give them another definition of "cracking." > > Eew. I'll second that. ;-) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: User login hangs system
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:44:38 -0800 Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Warning: Kernel & BIOS return differing head/sector geometries for > > device 0x81Kernel: 62749 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors > > BIOS: 1023 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors > > > > Lilo still finishes and I'm still able to boot into my gentoo and > > libranet system. > > ___ > > > Did you repartition before installing Gentoo? It shouldn't matter, > but if your old partition table from the previous OS install used a > different drive geometry (due to changes in BIOS or kernel) than the > new one you would have strange behaviour. I have had this happen once > with a drive I transplanted from an ancient machine to a new one > without repartitioning. That's not what the error indicates, but it > might be worth looking > into. Yeah, I did repartition. Libranet was taking up the whole thing (100GB), but I don't need that much space for 1 OS, and I felt the need to tinker. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: User login hangs system
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:29:27 -0800 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/12/03 17:22, Bill Davidson wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:57:41 -0800 > > "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 03/11/03 18:17, Bill Davidson wrote: > >> > I decided to give gentoo a try recently, and also decided to play > >> > around with alsa. I couldn't get alsa working, but that's a > >> > problem for another day. In trying to get the alsa modules to > >> > load, my system would hang, taking out everything(keyboard, > >> > network), requiring a manual reset. > >> > > >> > Now my system appears thoroughly hosed. It hangs just like above > >> > when I try to log in as a user other than root. I tried removing > >> > the user and adding it again, as well as adding a new user. I > >> > have no problems with root. When I run a command, such as less > >> > somefile, the screen fills up with junk, I get a message telling > >> > me to hit enter(I forget the exact message). When I hit enter, > >> > the command executes as normal. > >> > > >> > One other thing. reiserfsck reports no filesystem corruption and > >> > nothing shows up in my logs. Any ideas. I thought about > >> > recompiling the bases system, but it doesn't seem to me that > >> > reinstalling everything would be necessary. > >> > >> so at no time was there any file system corruption? > > > > It appears that way. I hesitate to say for sure, I could have missed > > it when I booted, but like I said, there is nothing in my logs that > > would indicate that fsck found anything wrong. I did, however forget > > to > > does reiserfs use lost+found? if so, check in it for each mounted > filesystem. No, it doesn't. :( ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: User login hangs system
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:57:41 -0800 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/11/03 18:17, Bill Davidson wrote: > > I decided to give gentoo a try recently, and also decided to play > > around with alsa. I couldn't get alsa working, but that's a problem > > for another day. In trying to get the alsa modules to load, my > > system would hang, taking out everything(keyboard, network), > > requiring a manual reset. > > > > Now my system appears thoroughly hosed. It hangs just like above > > when I try to log in as a user other than root. I tried removing the > > user and adding it again, as well as adding a new user. I have no > > problems with root. When I run a command, such as less somefile, the > > screen fills up with junk, I get a message telling me to hit enter(I > > forget the exact message). When I hit enter, the command executes as > > normal. > > > > One other thing. reiserfsck reports no filesystem corruption and > > nothing shows up in my logs. Any ideas. I thought about recompiling > > the bases system, but it doesn't seem to me that reinstalling > > everything would be necessary. > > so at no time was there any file system corruption? It appears that way. I hesitate to say for sure, I could have missed it when I booted, but like I said, there is nothing in my logs that would indicate that fsck found anything wrong. I did, however forget to mention this error I got the last time I ran lilo(yesterday). Warning: Kernel & BIOS return differing head/sector geometries for device 0x81Kernel: 62749 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors BIOS: 1023 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors Lilo still finishes and I'm still able to boot into my gentoo and libranet system. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
User login hangs system
I decided to give gentoo a try recently, and also decided to play around with alsa. I couldn't get alsa working, but that's a problem for another day. In trying to get the alsa modules to load, my system would hang, taking out everything(keyboard, network), requiring a manual reset. Now my system appears thoroughly hosed. It hangs just like above when I try to log in as a user other than root. I tried removing the user and adding it again, as well as adding a new user. I have no problems with root. When I run a command, such as less somefile, the screen fills up with junk, I get a message telling me to hit enter(I forget the exact message). When I hit enter, the command executes as normal. One other thing. reiserfsck reports no filesystem corruption and nothing shows up in my logs. Any ideas. I thought about recompiling the bases system, but it doesn't seem to me that reinstalling everything would be necessary. TIA, Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sending stardard error only to a pipe
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand how to send std out to a pipe ( | ), and how to send std > out and std error to a pipe, ( 2>&1 | ), but how to send just std > error to a pipe? Thanks, > Joel 2> | Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NEw Arrival
"stayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > I am pleased to announce the arrival of our new daughter, Madison > Tayler > > 6lb 6oz and 20in. > > Now I need to start planning her first PC! Congrats!! And hurry up on that PC, you don't want her to fall behind. ;) Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dhclient
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:41:31 -0400 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought for sure there would be a howto on dhcp, but I can't find > one of those, either. > > Joel It's a bit dated, but... http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/DHCP/index.html Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Error installing freetype-1.3.1
On Sun, 07 Jul 2002 12:50:26 -0700 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Davidson wrote: > > I'm following the sxs on installing XFree86 with truetype and > > anti-aliased fonts. I get the follwing error when doing make install > > on freetype-1.3.1: > > > > /usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test/arch/unix/../../arch/unix/gwin_x > > 11.c:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or > > directory/usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test/arch/unix/../../arch/un > > ix/gwin_x11.c:23: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or > > directory/usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test/arch/unix/../../arch/un > > ix/gwin_x11.c:24: X11/cursorfont.h: No such file or directory > > make[1]: *** [gwin_x11.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test' make: *** [install] Error 2 > > Its looking for /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h > /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xutil.h Really? I don't see that at all. Now I'm confused. So than X must have to be installed first. But the sxs says to install freetype-1.x, freetype-2.x, mesa, and zlib first. I've got zlib installed already. Ok. I've read the rest of the freetype sxs. It's here by the way: http://sxs.homeip.net/freetype.html. And here's the sxs that I'm following for X: http://sxs.homeip.net/xfree_4_x_ttf_aa.html. It says to install freetype, delete the source dir, unpack it again, and configure it for X, so that it installs under /usr/X11R6. Alright, nevermind. I think I'll just try to get a basic working X and try to get the rest working at another time. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Error installing freetype-1.3.1
I'm following the sxs on installing XFree86 with truetype and anti-aliased fonts. I get the follwing error when doing make install on freetype-1.3.1: /usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test/arch/unix/../../arch/unix/gwin_x11.c:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test/arch/unix/../../arch/unix/gwin_x11.c:23: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test/arch/unix/../../arch/unix/gwin_x11.c:24: X11/cursorfont.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [gwin_x11.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/XFree/freetype-1.3.1/test' make: *** [install] Error 2 Any ideas? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Acrobat basic tool bar
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 21:14:26 -0400 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been happily using acrobat 5.05 on my linux box. > > (I am impressed it didn't need an updated anything to install on my > caldera 2.4 boxes with the 2.2 kernel. Those guys at adobe must know > something a lot of linux programmers don't. If you want your program > to be used, make it compatible. Don't make your potential users update > everytime you release a new version, etc.) > > But,I must have pushed some wrong button, because now the "basic > tools" are consigned to a small floating box, not anchored on the tool > bar. > > Can someone tell me how to get it anchored again? Have you tried dragging it back to where it should be? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: dep, FHS, Slackware
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:25:05 -0600 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:44:24 -0500 "David A. Bandel" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can use either checkinstall (not installwatch) for stuff from > > source, or use alien to take stuff from RPM and/or DEB. > > > > And does either of these solutions provide you with an automatically > updated dtabase of installed/deinstalled packages? > > I already know how to do this on my primary distribution - everything > I need is built right in. > > I'm just interested in a real solution to the (as far as I can tell) > surprisingly small number of packages I can find packaged for Slack - > something that I can run and it (like RPM, or like emerge, or like > dpkg) does its work and keeps notes. > > Otherwise, I'll probably loose interest in my Slack distro really > fast. I would think that LFS users face a similar problem. Actually, there are several hints on the lfs website that deal with package management. This one uses a script to keep track of installed files. It's not perfect, but there are others as well. http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/install-log.txt Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: slack 8.1
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:32:14 -0700 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On June 22, 2002 04:42 pm, Bill Davidson wrote: > > > You need to add a line in the screen section where it says: > > 'ViewPort0 0' There's more than 1 so I guess add it after each > > 1. > > > > Make it say: > > 'ViewPort0 0' > > 'Something 800 600' or whatever your monitor will handle, > > experiment with the numbers. This is not your resolution. > > > > Sorry I can't remember for sure what 'Something' is. I think it > > could be:'Virtual 800 600' but I'm not sure. > > > > Bill > Can you not run the X config and say no to virtual desktop? > > -- > Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) > Westbank, B. C. He probly did. I ran into this problem when I was running COL 2.4 and I upgraded to XFree 4.01. 3.3.6 didn't work well with my video card. I don't really know what causes it. I'm running mandrake now and I don't have that 'Virtual' line and I don't have the problem. Go figure. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: slack 8.1
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:59:10 -0700 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I installed Slack 8.1 from the iso, ran xf86config and startx, but > the(virtual?) screen is too large for my monitor, and scrolls to the > bottom and right when I move my mouse pointer to the edge. I'm > pretty sure it's a /etc/X11/XF86Config issue, but I'm not sure how > to proceed. Anyone You need to add a line in the screen section where it says: 'ViewPort0 0' There's more than 1 so I guess add it after each 1. Make it say: 'ViewPort0 0' 'Something 800 600' or whatever your monitor will handle, experiment with the numbers. This is not your resolution. Sorry I can't remember for sure what 'Something' is. I think it could be:'Virtual 800 600' but I'm not sure. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel modules
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Bill Davidson wrote: > > Alright. Now I've done it. I needed to rebuild my kernel after-all, > > and I > > didn't make a backup of my working kernel(1 of my finer brain-dead > > moments). I ran 'make modules install' instead of 'make > > modules_install'. I ran make modules_install afterward. Now I can't > > boot. It just says 'loading kernel...' and freezes. > > > > This is for an lfs system, so I do have another working system. So I > > chrooted to my lfs partition and ran 'make menuconfig'. I probly > > don't need that but anyway... It appears I've hosed Ncurses. Here's > > the output: > > > > rm -f include/asm > > ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) > > make -C scripts/lxdialog all > > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' > > collect2: cannot find 'ld' > > ld is in /usr/bin on my Redhat boxes. Perhaps you've got a $PATH > problem? Ya. You're right. But I fixed my path and nothing changed. > > > > >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. > > >> > > >> You must have Ncurses installed in order > > >> to use 'make menuconfig' > > > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' > > > > So here's the question: can I fix this? Also, was this caused by the > > stupid make modules install command that I mistakenly entered? > > i doubt it. Looks like binutils might have gotten hosed on your box, > if it can't find ld and can't find dynamic libs. Alright. I might have an idea how I can reinstall it. Thanks. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel modules
Alright. Now I've done it. I needed to rebuild my kernel after-all, and I didn't make a backup of my working kernel(1 of my finer brain-dead moments). I ran 'make modules install' instead of 'make modules_install'. I ran make modules_install afterward. Now I can't boot. It just says 'loading kernel...' and freezes. This is for an lfs system, so I do have another working system. So I chrooted to my lfs partition and ran 'make menuconfig'. I probly don't need that but anyway... It appears I've hosed Ncurses. Here's the output: rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts/lxdialog all make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' collect2: cannot find 'ld' >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. >> >> You must have Ncurses installed in order >> to use 'make menuconfig' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' So here's the question: can I fix this? Also, was this caused by the stupid make modules install command that I mistakenly entered? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel modules
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:36:56 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:51:39 -0400 > begin Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > > > I've compiled a kernel and I realize I want to compile 2 more modules. > > If I run make menuconfig, without make mrproper, will all the > > selections that I had previouly chosen stay that way? Is that the way I > > should do it? Then I could run make modules and make modules_install. > > And if that's the way it's done, I don't think I need to reboot, but do > > I need to do anything else? depmod maybe? > > All you need to do is: > make menuconfig (choose the new modules) > make modules;make modules_install > > modprobe > > no need for a reboot or anything. Thanks. That's the answer I was hoping for > Note: the above _only_ works on modules, and on modules in areas where > you already have modules (i.e., there's no change to the kernel itself). > e.g., suppose you chose CONFIG_NETFILTER=y, then made some netfilter > modules. You later decided to remake iptables, only wanted to add a few > new modules using make most-of-pom. You could then go to the kernel > tree, and do: > make oldconfig (select as modules the new netfilter modules) > make modules;make modules_install > > begin writing rules for the new modules. Thanks. I'll be saving this one. > However, if you originally said NO to CONFIG_NETFILTER, but now decided > you wanted to try some netfilter modules, you'd have to remake the entire > kernel (make menuconfig;make bzImage;make modules;make modules_install;cp > System.map /boot/System.map;cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage > /boot/bzImage;lilo;shutdown -r now) > Note that, as long as this is just a kernel _remake_, you don't need > `make mrproper`, `make dep`, `make clean`. I only use the mrproper > target the_very_ first time (not after only a patch-up) or if I change > from uni- to multi- processor. I only use the dep and clean targets > first time around after I patch up. > > The above is based on my experience and may not be best practice, but it > works (as it has hundreds of times over the years). I _hate_ waiting for > compile steps I don't need to run, so I take every known shortcut. > > Crystal? Very. Thanks. That was excellent. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
kernel modules
I've compiled a kernel and I realize I want to compile 2 more modules. If I run make menuconfig, without make mrproper, will all the selections that I had previouly chosen stay that way? Is that the way I should do it? Then I could run make modules and make modules_install. And if that's the way it's done, I don't think I need to reboot, but do I need to do anything else? depmod maybe? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
M$ at it again - funny
I got this link from another list. http://news.com.com/2100-1001-935994.html?legacy=cnet&tag=lthd Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Analogies & Metaphors
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:33:32 -0500 Ronnie Gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got this from another list I'm on. Enjoy...makes yoiu wonder just what > experience they went through to come up with these. ROFL... Are these high school essays, or Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake Update Problem
On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:46:32 -0600 Tyler Regas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I honestly think that most Linux advocates believe that if it becomes > easy to use it will fall into the maw of M$ and be swallowed up whole. > Nothing could be further from the truth. Linux has proven its > marketability with distributions like Mandrake that favor the desktop > user and distros like RH that favor the admin. Why can't Linux be for > everyone? Let M$ keep building OS clones and calling one a server > while the other is a desktop. They're not fooling anyone. I didn't mean to sound like a cli preacher. I guess I did though. What I meant was that people should be aware that it's there and know how to use it for simple tasks, not know how to write crazy shell scripts. Of course I meant that for the home user that has to administer their own system. > Bill, how many savvy desktop users do you know? Does anyone know of a > majority of users in an enterprise environment that can delete and > re-install a driver in Windows? How many calls a week has anyone on a > helpdesk gotten for help on adjusting contrast and brightness > following a department-wide monitor upgrade? How many a day? These people shouldn't run linux unless someone else installs it for them, as well as does all the administrating. Some people are afraid of technology. They know how to use an application, but can't install it or configure it. These people aren't the people that need to be reached, it's the people that do all their dirty work. > Believe it or not, there are millions of people out there that just > want to browse the web, write a letter, and keep track of their > checkbooks. For one's employed by any one of our countries (US) > mega-corporations, there are scores of users that don't even get their > own desk, much less the chance to fiddle around when a problem occurs. Yes. But all these people need to know are the locations of the icons used to launch their applications. > I'd hate to even try to estimate the number of secretaries and > executive assistants there are in this world. How many of them do you > think would even spend 20 seconds trying to tweak their USB mouse > driver to make it use all four buttons and the wheel? Zero! They call > someone. A person like the members of this list. Then they pay us. > > This likely sounds cheesy, but don't fear the advent of the user > friendly Linux distro. Welcome it a make a few more bucks off of it :) Oh, I don't fear the user friendly distro. If I did, I wouldn't use Mandrake. :) I think I might have made it seem that I fancy myself as some kind of guru, but I am quite the newbie. I like the ease of Mandrake's install(configured everything except my sound card). And I like the gui tools. But I also know the value of the cli, even though I'm not yet able to fully appreciate it's power and flexibility. I'll now say that I wish you well with your book. I think it'll be a good project in spite of some of what I've said. I do think you can do almost everything without a cli, but sometimes those wizards don't always work as advertised. Bill Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake Update Problem
On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 19:04:16 -0600 Tyler Regas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey all! > > Good news! My proposal for a Mandrake book has been accepted by Que > Publishing, so I'll be a Linux author soon :) I have a question for > you all that has been pestering me and popped up again last night. > Mandrakes online update system typically offers a RPM based kernel > update. When I was using 8.0 and tried it it kacked out my system. I > just tried it again with 8.1 last night and it did it again. > > Does anyone know what the deal is here? Now, I know that its generally > not accepted to update a kernel with an RPM, but my book is special. > This book is for desktop users and contains only a very small > smattering of console stuff. All of it is GUI oriented, which is why I > keep trying this kernel update. > > TIA, > > Tyler A short while back there was a lot of traffic on the mandrake lists about people hosing their systems trying to update a kernel using mandrake update. They have to be installed, not upgraded. Mandrake update is supposed to install it rather than upgrade it, but usually it screws up. It might be fixed in 8.2, but I don't know, and I'm not brave enough to find out. What's so hard about downloading a kernel and 'rpm -ivh' anyway? You can't use linux and never expect to use the cli. If you do, you'll no doubt eventually run into a problem that you can't fix with a gui. And what happens if you lose your gui? And don't say it can't happen. It happened to me just recently. I upgraded to mdk 8.2 and found out that XFree 4.2 doesn't like my video card. You have to be able to overcome that stuff. Bill Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: I'm a dad!!
On Wed, 15 May 2002 19:43:00 -0700 "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm incredibly pleased to announce that I became the father of a 8lb, > 12oz boy today. Being my > first child, he'll be spoiled every which way possible. > Pictures of the little guy can be found here: > http://linux-sxs.org/~netllama Congratulations! Are you going to be passing out virtual cigars ;) Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 09:43 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > > Just a suggestion. Feel free to disregard it. > > ok! j/k > > anyone else care to chime in? There doesn't appear to be a lot of room for that on my screen. My resolution is 1024x768 and I'm using galeon1.0.3. The date doesn't line with title though. It looks like: 04-02 -Another approach to installing KDE3 -New -John Hiemenz One thing I've just noticed is that there are a lot of inconsistencies with the colour of the visited links. The links on the left are an ugly green, while the links on top stay the same. The links in the blue tables appear purple when visited and they blend in a bit with the blue. Some other links are red. Oh, yeah. I also don't see the splash screen before being redirected. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: your opinion needed (site redesign)
> Yeah, the left side. The blue tables are perfect. Why not make em the > same blue as the links on top? Wow! That was quite badly worded. Lemme try that again. Why not make the links on the left the same colour blue as the links on top which are darker and easier to read. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: your opinion needed (site redesign)
On Tuesday 23 April 2002 07:08 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Bill Davidson spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > > I wish the links were a darker colour. That's the only thing I'd like > > to see changed. Other than that, it looks great. > > which? the left-hand side? or in the blue tables? Yeah, the left side. The blue tables are perfect. Why not make em the same blue as the links on top? Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: your opinion needed (site redesign)
On Monday 22 April 2002 04:16 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > I've reworked the left-hand menu taking all prior suggestions into > account. It resembles the one Klaus suggested, with slight changes. > Feedback? Url is http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ I wish the links were a darker colour. That's the only thing I'd like to see changed. Other than that, it looks great. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no sound on kde
On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:19:55 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not have sound on kde of any sort 2.2.1, 2.2.2 and 3.0it comes up with > this on boot > > Sound server informational message: > Error while initializing the sound driver: > couldn't auto detect which audio I/O method to use > The sound server will continue, using the null output device. > > Ideas, advice all appreciated. No use asking on kde.org they do not answer. Try setting it manually in the kde sound server. Not sure what you're running, but on Mandrake8.1 with kde2.2 it's in the main menu under Configuration -> KDE -> Sound -> Sound Server and click the IO tab. Pick either ALSA or OSS. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: success story posted by linux.org
On Thursday 11 April 2002 10:26 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > I have seen this same success story multiple times on the internet. I > wonder why we don't see more success stories like this? > Joel Mandrake documents business cases. http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/ Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: JAVA RAD
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 01:17 pm, zohar wrote: > Is there some application which make the code of Java language for the > controls(command buttons. option buttons, list box, combo box, etc) that > are in the screen using AWT library and JDBC as I have connect it to > database (particularly of mysql, though for the time > being I could work with Access OR Oracle till I have to design the > screen and to do system testing) so that after getting the framework > done I can write code for the procedure. Need some RAD tool like VB but > like VB it should not make code that is ultimately dependent on OS but > that code should works on its own, as a code of Java language for > interfacting with database and hardware.. > > For any of windows(more preferably as this is the OS in my college > machines) or linux platform. > > Also mysql 4.0 is said to be released. What it has more features than > 3.23(the current one that is on my machine. > > Hope to get a help from you. > > Zohar Have a look at Forte. It's from Sun and it's at java.sun.com. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfree-lite
On Monday 08 April 2002 11:39 pm, m.w.Chang wrote: > Is it do-able after full/partial installation? > To avoid missing some crucial modules, > I always install all packages. > > Now i want to try building Xfree86 from scratch rather > paying extra for an product upgrade. SO is there a > dummy's guide for newbies to remove existing RPMs? > > I read that it's dam easy to build a Xfree86 from scratch. > But shouldn't one first remove the old version BEFORE > installing a new version? You don't need to. But you might want to back up /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 in case something goes wrong in the install. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Linux tips
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Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Looks real nice. Much cleaner. And I must say the idea of the opinions page sounds great. Bill On Tuesday 02 April 2002 09:35 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > The new "snapshot" of the developing site redesign is up. The following > concerns have been addresses: > 1. the javascript windows resize is gone. It wasn't intended to be a > part of the site. I was using it to help me gauge window sizes, table > alignments, and font spacing. > 2. the frame borders are invisible. they were only visible to illustrate > the layout to Net Llama. I didn't know he was going to tell everyone > about the url ;) > 3. the middle frame has been absorbed into another frame much like the > current site. I never cared for having it seperate. I just made it that > way so that I could keep track of the many required elements. > 4. the "2 words per row" between the two tables has been fixed. however, > this means that the minimum browser window size is slightly larger (if > you don't want to have to scroll the site) > > Frames are still there. I don't care for them that much either, but the > main focus for right now is the design itself. How we do the layout can > be worked out after we have a "final" design. > > NOTE: The images on the site with the penguin are temporary. But the > general look is probably going to stay. (beach, books, some kind of > beverage) I've asked Burns to generate some new Dr Tux images whenever > he gets some time. > > There's still a ton of 404 errors. It is intentional. There is no sense > in copying all that content around when the focus right now is the > "face" of the site. > > There is nothing I can do about the white on white in the store. I've > sent a request up to the site admin (the store is one of those > co-partner things). The jury is still out on whether the final site will > have a store or not. Opinions? > > You'll also note the opinions link. This will take you to a beta site of > a concept that we are kicking around. Essentially, what we were hoping > to achieve was a place where you (the user) can go to look up reviews > (written by your peers in the community) of different hardware or > software or distros. think epinions.com meets the linux hardware > compatibility list meets the steps. The site will also have relevant > links to SxS content. For example, you go to the opinion site and lookup > cd-r drives. It will present you with a link to the relevant SxS > material on cd-r drives, and will also show what cd-r drives have been > reviewed by the community. the reviews will tell the make and model, the > success, what kernel, what distro, overall rating of the drive, etc. > That way you can see "oh look. lite-on drives work well with linux. acer > ones dont. guess I wont be buying that acer drive at best buy after > all". There are very few reports in the system right now. If you get a > chance, create a login and start generating reports. Try to break it. > Then send me whatever errors messages/issues/ideas/etc you encounter. > > The url is still http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: Your message to Editors awaits moderator approval
On Monday 01 April 2002 08:22 pm, burns wrote: > On April 1, 2002 07:12 pm, Bill Davidson wrote: > > Why would receive this now. I'm a member. Just got my monthly reminder > > today. I never had trouble posting before. Or is this an april fools > > joke? > > > > Bill > > > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > > > Subject: Your message to Editors awaits moderator approval > > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:50:01 -0500 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You probably selected "Reply to All" for an email which was crossposted > to the General List and the Editors' List. > > It was the Editors List adminbot which quarantined your reply. Thanks. I was wondering how that happened. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Monday 01 April 2002 06:57 pm, Net Llama wrote: > --- Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use galeon. Not the latest. I should upgrade galeon and mozilla. > > Although I've been told that if I try the latest mozilla milestone, I > > wouldn't use galeon. I mainly prefer galeon because of it's ability to > > > > disable pop-ups. > > Mozilla has had that feature for at least the past 2 releases. Sweet. I didn't know that as I have Moz0.9.4. Yeah, I know that's old. Especially since Mandrake keeps the rpms on their cooker mirrors. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Fwd: Your message to Editors awaits moderator approval
Why would receive this now. I'm a member. Just got my monthly reminder today. I never had trouble posting before. Or is this an april fools joke? Bill -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Your message to Editors awaits moderator approval Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:50:01 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your mail to 'Editors' with the subject Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. --- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
I use galeon. Not the latest. I should upgrade galeon and mozilla. Although I've been told that if I try the latest mozilla milestone, I wouldn't use galeon. I mainly prefer galeon because of it's ability to disable pop-ups. Bill On Monday 01 April 2002 05:56 pm, Net Llama wrote: > The middle frame is supposed to be for each mirror to include any unique > content branding stuff. > > Just curious, which browser did you use (or do you prefer)? > > thanks for your feedback! > > -Net LLama! > > --- Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't care for that middle frame. What's it for? And it's resizable > > in > > case it's not supposed to be. You can shrink it upward. I think the > > mirror > > and the editor tables might look better with a white background. But > > that's minor. The big thing for me is that middle frame. > > > > Bill > > > > On Monday 01 April 2002 01:42 pm, Net Llama wrote: > > > Fellow Pengiuns, > > > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design > > > > of > > > > > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > > > proof of concept: > > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > > > > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > > > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you > > > > think > > > > > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are > > > > too > > > > > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > > > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. > > > > > :) > > : > > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people > > > > who > > > > > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > > > attractive as possible. > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover > http://greetings.yahoo.com/ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
I don't care for that middle frame. What's it for? And it's resizable in case it's not supposed to be. You can shrink it upward. I think the mirror and the editor tables might look better with a white background. But that's minor. The big thing for me is that middle frame. Bill On Monday 01 April 2002 01:42 pm, Net Llama wrote: > Fellow Pengiuns, > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > proof of concept: > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you think > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are too > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. :) > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people who > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > attractive as possible. > > thanks, > Net Llama! > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover > http://greetings.yahoo.com/ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: No GUI in Mandrake 7.2 installation
On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:48 pm, Glenn Williams wrote: > Hello, group: > > After my third attempt to install Mandrake 7.2 on my Pentium III 1Gig, > 1000M Intel machine, I still cannot satisfy the install script that I > have a viable monitor (Mag View / Pro View VM 700E) and and video > adapter card (Rage 128 GL 4X AGP 4X w/ 32M video memory). > > After the installation completes, I've tried running Xconfigurator from > the console prompt, testing many of the modes possible with the card > and monitor - to no avail. I've tried running exactly the same video > configuration I previously used when running RedHat 7.2 and SuSE 7.3 on > the exact same hardware. > > So why am I not running SuSE 7.3 or RedHat 7.2 if **they** work OK? > Because a couple of newbie friends are running Mandrake 7.2 and want me > to run it so I can help sort out **their** problems. ;0) Thing is, > they ain't got no problems! > > I have attached relevant error messages. > > I'm ready to throw in the towel - but first... > > Any suggestions? Have you tried running xf86config? Just a thought as Xconfigurator doesn't always work. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gentoo news and ramblings
On Friday 15 March 2002 11:34 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: > Collins > >Nice job, lots of good stuff. I love this xfce, and things made by > kde even work better. Sooner or later I will get around to building a > desceant IDE system for c++ java python & scripts. In the process of > some lower level stuff now. But this cillege degree crap is cramping my > real love, software development & my wife. > > cheers Do they teach you to spell in cillege Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Compiling avifile
Actually, it says on the website that binary packages don't work well. Apparently there's a lot of optimizations that have to be made when it's compiled. that's probly why most vendors don't include it. On another note, you need to run ./configure with --disable-gcc-checking as an option if you're using gcc2.96. I got a rather strong message regarding gcc2.96 until I did that. I think it said "gcc2.96 is not and never will be supported" or something like that. On Friday 15 March 2002 04:59 pm, Aaron Grewell wrote: > That's great. As I was trying to build it, I was thinking "no wonder > this didn't come with my distro. No vendor wants to QA this." That's > part of the reason I haven't installed it on anything recently. Sounds > like I need to give it another go. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Now Disney's whining
Disney wants to dictate how computers are made. When is someone gonna put these big companies in their place and tell to just shut up? I'd love to put M$, AOL, Disney and the record industry in a room together with Barney the dinosaur until they learn to show a little love. Oh, yeah, and here's an article. http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2854528,00.html Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Compiling avifile
I tried MPlayer first actually. ./configure didn't get any further than checking my compiler: gcc2.96. Is it really that bad? I tried it with a --no-debug option -or something like that- and it bombed. Maybe I'll try it again and try to find out what went wrong. One question though. Why replace the libavcodec directory in the MPlayer directory with another one? Or did I misinterpret something? I hope I made that clear. Bill On Thursday 14 March 2002 05:50 pm, Net Llama wrote: > Since i wrote that SxS, i guess i'm the default person to comment. For > starters, keep in mind that alot of the package versions in that SxS > have changed quite a bit. You should make sure that you're getting the > latest of all of them before trying to build old code. > Next, the errors that you included don't appear to be all the errors, > since its already complaining about renderer.cpp. > Also, it looks like SDL isn't being found. Make sure that you have it > installed, and if you do, you'll prolly need to pass a ./configure line > to tell it where SDL is. > And finally, i should note/admit that i gave up on avifile shortly after > i wrote that SxS. I couldn't get the more recent versions to build on > any of my boxes, and my requests for assistance from the avifile team > went unanswered. > See my other SxS for building MPlayer. Its what i use these days, and i > rather like it. > > HTH, > Lonni ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Compiling avifile
I'm trying to install avifile form source as per the SxS. But first, a general compile question. If I type in "./configure 2> dump" to redirect standard error, and than "make 2>> dump" to append to the file, will that give all the error messages that I need to find out why it failed? That's what I did and I've attached the output below. I grabbed these packages: divx4linux-20011025.tgz, binaries-011002.tgz, then I did the cvs thing and grabbed the latest source. divx4linux and the win32 binaries appear to have installed ok. When I typed "./autogen.sh" It says something is missing. I don't know what that would be. Then when I typed "./configure I get a warning that it can't find SDL >= 1.1.3. I have libSDL1.2.2-1mdk installed. Is there another SDL package that I need? Anothing thing I should mention is that I'm using gcc2.96. Could this be the whole reason that it failed? This is the ouput that I got. automake: configure.in: installing `./install-sh' automake: configure.in: installing `./mkinstalldirs' automake: configure.in: installing `./missing' configure: warning: Could not find SDL >= 1.1.3! configure: warning: ---If you wish to use Xvid plugin install xvid package, --- take a look at: http://www.xvid.org ) renderer.cpp:227: syntax error before `*' renderer.cpp:231: syntax error before `*' renderer.cpp:234: `image' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:234: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `sscanf' with no type renderer.cpp:234: initializer list being treated as compound expression renderer.cpp:237: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `s' with no type renderer.cpp:237: redefinition of `int avm::s' renderer.cpp:233: `int avm::s' previously declared here renderer.cpp:238: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `data' with no type renderer.cpp:238: parse error before `[' renderer.cpp:239: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `mask' with no type renderer.cpp:239: parse error before `[' renderer.cpp:240: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `memset' with no type renderer.cpp:240: initializer list being treated as compound expression renderer.cpp:241: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `memset' with no type renderer.cpp:241: redefinition of `int avm::memset' renderer.cpp:240: `int avm::memset' previously defined here renderer.cpp:241: initializer list being treated as compound expression renderer.cpp:241: multiple initializations given for `avm::memset' renderer.cpp:242: syntax error before `++' renderer.cpp:244: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `i' with no type renderer.cpp:245: parse error before `for' renderer.cpp:245: parse error before `;' renderer.cpp:246: parse error before `;' renderer.cpp:249: syntax error before `<=' renderer.cpp:252: `i' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:252: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `data' with no type renderer.cpp:252: `mask' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:252: `i' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:252: assignment (not initialization) in declaration renderer.cpp:253: parse error before `}' renderer.cpp:257: `i' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:257: syntax error before `|=' renderer.cpp:267: `image' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:267: `colors' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:267: `row' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:267: `hot_x' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:267: `hot_y' was not declared in this scope renderer.cpp:267: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `sscanf' with no type renderer.cpp:267: `int sscanf' redeclared as different kind of symbol /usr/include/stdio.h:333: previous declaration of `int sscanf (const char *, const char *, ...)' renderer.cpp:267: initializer list being treated as compound expression renderer.cpp:268: parse error before `return' renderer.cpp: In function `int GetPhysicalDepth (void *)': renderer.cpp:305: redefinition of `int GetPhysicalDepth (void *)' ../../include/renderer.h:190: `int GetPhysicalDepth (void *)' previously defined here renderer.cpp: In function `int GetPhysicalDepth (void *)': renderer.cpp:305: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make[2]: *** [renderer.lo] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MD 8.1 shutdown hang
The changes don't take effect until after you shutdown. Have you tried shutting down again? By the way, this is a known issue. Have a look here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/errata.php3 Bill On Wednesday 13 March 2002 11:21 pm, Roger Hawley wrote: > On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:32:49 -0500 > Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Bill but that didn't do it > > > Try changing the line in your /etc/modules.conf that reads "alias > > usb-interface usb-uhci" to "alias usb-interface uhci". > > > > Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MD 8.1 shutdown hang
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 09:46 pm, Roger Hawley wrote: > During shutdown it lists > > usb.c:USB disconnect on device 1 > usb.c:USB disconnect on device2 > usbaudio:unregister dsp 14,35 > usbaudio:unregister mixer 14,16 > > No "ok" listed on the right side for these items. Then it hangs. > Please how can I fix this? > Thanks , Roger Try changing the line in your /etc/modules.conf that reads "alias usb-interface usb-uhci" to "alias usb-interface uhci". Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
