Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-05 Thread burns

On Monday 03 June 2002 17:06, Jerry McBride wrote:
 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?

 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.


I've had good luck with a 'cheap and cheerful' Cybex Switchview MP 4 port KVM 
switch. IT autosenses PCs and Unix boxes (i.e. SUN). :Price is around 
300(USD). There's a cheaper model for around $90, for PCs only. Cable kits 
are extra.

These are digital models and work very well.  There are analog switches 
(essential a rotary switch) out there on the market that are cheaper. 
However, they  are a pain in the butt and don't really work all that well.
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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-04 Thread Philip J. Koenig

On 3 Jun 2002, at 19:47, R. Quenett boldly uttered: 

 from Kevin O'Gorman:
 
  Being still within warranty, I sent it back and got a Switchview
  model (I forget the manufacturer) and have been very happy ever since.
 
 Cybex, now Avocent it looks like.  http://www.cybex.com works, tho.  
 Good, not perfect, unit.
 
 R


Experience with the Belkin units overall has been mediocre at best.  
They're common, they're cheap, and if you can't find something else, 
they might be workable.

Sticking with the brands who have a history of building solid 
commercial units I think is a better policy. (ie Cybex as mentioned 
above, who merged with Apex [my personal fave] to form Avocent) 

Other vendors of well-regarded commercial units include Masterswitch, 
Compaq (Apex OEM), HP (also Apex OEM AFAIK), Rose, and Raritan.  I'm 
wary of the generic taiwanese stuff from Linksys/Aten/Edimax etc.



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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-04 Thread Matthew Carpenter

I used a couple a couple years ago, named MasterView or MasterSwitch... 
They worked really well, but I never tried NT on them.  Linux and 9x
worked flawlessly (except when the KVM lost power or got shut off.  Then
you have to bounce Windows or restart X)

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:12:05 -0700
Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Jerry,
 
  Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?
 
 Belkin makes several that are available and not too pricey.  However,
 you will need to make sure it is compatible.  I'm running one 2 CPU
 model at home, and an OmniView SE 4-Port here at work.
 
  I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
  computers, but I would like to have
  the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, 
  one box is
  running windows and the other
  is running Turbo linux.
 
 This may be where you run into troubles.  Despite the supposed
 compatibility with Windows NT (special keyboard handling that messes
 KVMs up), the one here at work needs to be cycled through the list of
 computers to clear something out before the keyboard special characters
 work right.  NOTE: This is not a problem on the Linux system I'm running
 here, only the two Win2K systems.  It was a problem on the WinNT system
 I was running, too.  It isn't a problem on either Linux system I'm
 running at home, either.  This should not be a problem on Win95/Win98,
 either.
 
 Other than the Windows problem, I've been very happy with the Belkin
 models.
 
 
 In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,
 
 Tom  :-})
 
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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-04 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Be careful if you choose a cheap one, as I bought two that don't work at
all.  They'd be better off as Video switches.

On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:06:29 -0400
Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?
 
 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.
 
 Thank you, in advance.
 
 
 
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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-04 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Another vote for one NOT to use--the Protec Bytelan switches.  We have two 
of them, and they actually work quite well with Windows NT, except if there 
is any kind of power problem with the switch, in which case the mouse stops 
working.

Where I had a problem is with X Windows, in this case on a Mandrake 6.0 
system (running KDE, but I think we may have had the same problem with 
other desktops, too).  As I recall, it didn't accept either keyboard or 
mouse input properly.  Even more problematically, once Linux was booted to 
a GUI, it wouldn't switch to another computer.  Then again, they are fine 
with any CLI--DOS, Linux, OS/2, and our Linux systems are servers, so we 
just used this as an excuse to not even install X.

At 09:40 AM 6/4/02 -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
Be careful if you choose a cheap one, as I bought two that don't work at
all.  They'd be better off as Video switches.



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RE: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-04 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


Harry,

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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Net Llama!

I use a Linksys Pro-Connect KVM at work.  No problems under Linux,
although i hear from some of my less enlightened coworkers that it doesn't
get along with windoze2k too well.  Something about the mouse  keyboard
not being detected all the time.

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:

 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?

 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.

 Thank you, in advance.





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KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Jerry McBride


Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?

I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
computers, but I would like to have
the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
running windows and the other
is running Turbo linux.

Thank you, in advance.



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RE: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


Jerry,

 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?

Belkin makes several that are available and not too pricey.  However, you
will need to make sure it is compatible.  I'm running one 2 CPU model at
home, and an OmniView SE 4-Port here at work.

 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, 
 one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.

This may be where you run into troubles.  Despite the supposed compatibility
with Windows NT (special keyboard handling that messes KVMs up), the one
here at work needs to be cycled through the list of computers to clear
something out before the keyboard special characters work right.  NOTE: This
is not a problem on the Linux system I'm running here, only the two Win2K
systems.  It was a problem on the WinNT system I was running, too.  It isn't
a problem on either Linux system I'm running at home, either.  This should
not be a problem on Win95/Win98, either.

Other than the Windows problem, I've been very happy with the Belkin models.


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

Thomas A. Condon
Barbershop Bass Singer
Registered Linux User #154358

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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Jim Bonnet

Jerry McBride wrote:
 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?
 
 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.
 
 Thank you, in advance.
 
 
 

Here at work we use the belkin KVM's, they work fine. I know they 
probably aren't the most 'fancy' boxes, but they are functional. And 
they work with openserver,linux,unixware without any problems...

regards-
Jim


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RE: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?
 
 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, 
 one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.
 
 Thank you, in advance.

One other important note:  I've found that an installation of a new OS works
more reliably if I plug the keyboard  mouse into the computer directly,
then go back to the KVM when it is completed.  I don't know why this is, but
I believe it is hardware/BIOS related, since it seems to vary form machine
to machine.


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

I am runnibg one called A ten. I have winders 2k  solaris  
linux all working They have the feature that allows boot up and be
off select.  approx $179.00

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RE: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Wil McGilvery

Stay away from Belkin KVM's. I have found they do not work well when you install a 
Linux GUI desktop.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin O'Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Mon 6/3/2002 6:06 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: KVM recommendations?



At school, they were using Belkin KVM's, so I decided to buy one too.
Bad idea.  I checked with the support staff and apparently the cheaper
Belkins were giving them the same trouble I had: the mouse did not
work reliably.

Being still within warranty, I sent it back and got a Switchview
model (I forget the manufacturer) and have been very happy ever since.
It was about US$15 more expensive when equipped with cables for 2
systems, but worth the lost hassles.

The item was from warehouse.com, item # DSD2273.  4 ports, can
reset the mouse (I never needed that), you can switch with the
keyboard (double-tap CNTL), and a some other things I don't care
about but you might.  I liked the cables for this box better than
the Belkin too, for reasons that I'd need a diagram to explain.
And I'm too lazy for that.  Comes with cables for 2 systems.

++ kevin


On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 05:06:29PM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:

 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?

 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.

 Thank you, in advance.



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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread R. Quenett

from Kevin O'Gorman:

 Being still within warranty, I sent it back and got a Switchview
 model (I forget the manufacturer) and have been very happy ever since.

Cybex, now Avocent it looks like.  http://www.cybex.com works, tho.  
Good, not perfect, unit.

R
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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Michael Hipp

I have a LinkSys ProConnect KVM100SK (2-port). Machine #1 is a P4 
running Linux. Machine #2 is a P4 running Win2k Pro.

Works great.

The best feature: a simple double tap on the Ctrl key switches screens. 
Alot of KVM switches use a grotesque multi-fingered sequence to flip 
screens.

Michael

Jerry McBride wrote:
 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?
 
 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.
 
 Thank you, in advance.
 
 
 



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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-03 Thread Harry G

On Monday June 03 2002 05:15 pm, you interfaced in analog form:


 Tom  :-})

Do you really wear your mustache upside down?

Harry G  :-{ )

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