Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
-> ->> ->> > I think I prefer the old mascot of Dr. Tux rather than Beach boy Tux. In ->> > fact one has the impression of having seen it elsewhere. Personally, I am ->> > for re-establishing Dr. Tux. ->> ->> As soon as Burns gets some time, that is the plan. the current penguin is ->> just a stand-in. -> ->Is it the beachchair idea that you don't like, the different penguin, or both? *** Both. Basically, Dr. Tux is much more original than beach Tux. And its looks fit more the content we are proposing. Zoran -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Apr 4 burns was heard saying: ->On April 2, 2002 06:59 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -> ->> ->> > I think I prefer the old mascot of Dr. Tux rather than Beach boy Tux. In ->> > fact one has the impression of having seen it elsewhere. Personally, I am ->> > for re-establishing Dr. Tux. ->> ->> As soon as Burns gets some time, that is the plan. the current penguin is ->> just a stand-in. -> ->Is it the beachchair idea that you don't like, the different penguin, or both? *** Both. Basically, Dr. Tux is much more original than beach Tux. And its looks fit more the content we are proposing. Zoran -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On April 2, 2002 06:59 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > > I think I prefer the old mascot of Dr. Tux rather than Beach boy Tux. In > > fact one has the impression of having seen it elsewhere. Personally, I am > > for re-establishing Dr. Tux. > > As soon as Burns gets some time, that is the plan. the current penguin is > just a stand-in. Is it the beachchair idea that you don't like, the different penguin, or both? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Apr 2 Douglas J Hunley was heard saying: ->> Furthermore the icon on the home page is a bit too small for laptop ->> screens. Even with a 1024 resolution, the icon does not render very well, ->> misses detail and looks a bit unsharp. -> ->which? the miniature version of the splash image? *** It is the small one. But since it is a stand-in anyway it does not matter. Cheers, Zoran. -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Zoran spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > It looks sleeker. The little 3D file icons next to each group link are > a nice idea. thanks > > Compared to the old site the new one looks like its corners have been > rounded without touching the house style. That is very good. I concur > > I think I prefer the old mascot of Dr. Tux rather than Beach boy Tux. In > fact one has the impression of having seen it elsewhere. Personally, I am > for re-establishing Dr. Tux. As soon as Burns gets some time, that is the plan. the current penguin is just a stand-in. > > Furthermore the icon on the home page is a bit too small for laptop > screens. Even with a 1024 resolution, the icon does not render very well, > misses detail and looks a bit unsharp. which? the miniature version of the splash image? > > I do not have any font problems with either one of the Opera's (Linux or > Win.) that's cause Opera does decent fonts. KDE fonts are hit and miss prior to 3.0 thanks for the feedback -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org OK genius.. what's the speed of dark?!? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Apr 1 Net Llama was heard saying: ->Fellow Pengiuns, ->The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of ->the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest ->proof of concept: ->http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html *** Wow, remembering how it started and seeing what it has become today...! It looks sleeker. The little 3D file icons next to each group link are a nice idea. Compared to the old site the new one looks like its corners have been rounded without touching the house style. That is very good. I think I prefer the old mascot of Dr. Tux rather than Beach boy Tux. In fact one has the impression of having seen it elsewhere. Personally, I am for re-establishing Dr. Tux. Furthermore the icon on the home page is a bit too small for laptop screens. Even with a 1024 resolution, the icon does not render very well, misses detail and looks a bit unsharp. I do not have any font problems with either one of the Opera's (Linux or Win.) Cheers, Zoran. -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 17:31:44 -0300 "Federico Voges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <<> I second Frederico's post... Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
--- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Davidson spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > > I don't care for that middle frame. What's it for? And it's > resizable in > > case it's not supposed to be. You can shrink it upward. I think the > mirror > > and the editor tables might look better with a white background. But > > that's minor. The big thing for me is that middle frame. > > the middle frame is for each mirror to customize. it's their space for > them > to add their personality. but it's going to be moved around based on > feedback > (here and previously on editors). I wasn't really prepared for "the > world" to > take a peek at it yet ;) Yea, i was a bit more eager for peer review than Doug expected. :) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 20:30:24 -0500 begin Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > David A. Bandel spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > > Wrong answer. The beauty of CSS is that CSS is all about > > markup/content separation. In Lynx all you see is the content, not > > any markup. And for whatever reason, content displays _much_ better > > under Lynx with CSS. > > it does? it shouldn't. I'll look into it. Go to the westciv link I sent you with Netscape and Lynx and look at them side by side. Both are easy to navigate. The site _looks_ like it's using a left-side navigation frame, but no frames are used. Lynx more than adequately displays the page. CSS forces you to use a slightly different coding style, a more linear coding style, and this makes for easier reading with Lynx or other text browsers. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Bill Davidson spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > I don't care for that middle frame. What's it for? And it's resizable in > case it's not supposed to be. You can shrink it upward. I think the mirror > and the editor tables might look better with a white background. But > that's minor. The big thing for me is that middle frame. the middle frame is for each mirror to customize. it's their space for them to add their personality. but it's going to be moved around based on feedback (here and previously on editors). I wasn't really prepared for "the world" to take a peek at it yet ;) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org One item could not be deleted because it was missing. -- Mac System 7.0b1 error message ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
David A. Bandel spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > Wrong answer. The beauty of CSS is that CSS is all about markup/content > separation. In Lynx all you see is the content, not any markup. And for > whatever reason, content displays _much_ better under Lynx with CSS. it does? it shouldn't. I'll look into it. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org How do I set a laser printer to stun? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Douglas J Hunley spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > If we could use PHP/MySQL/Zope/etc, the site would be a lot "neater" than > it is that came out wrong. I am NOT implying that the site isn't "neat" as it is. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org How do I set a laser printer to stun? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On April 1, 2002 01:53 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: > > > Do you know of a good site that does a "CSS for dummies" type > > > tutorial. Actually it doesn't even have to be watered down, just > > > something for people who know HTML, but know nothing about CSS, and > > > want to learn the basics quickly. > > http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/index.html There's also http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/ It's more a quick reference then anything, but as a reference it's worked quite well. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Monday 01 April 2002 06:57 pm, Net Llama wrote: > --- Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use galeon. Not the latest. I should upgrade galeon and mozilla. > > Although I've been told that if I try the latest mozilla milestone, I > > wouldn't use galeon. I mainly prefer galeon because of it's ability to > > > > disable pop-ups. > > Mozilla has had that feature for at least the past 2 releases. Sweet. I didn't know that as I have Moz0.9.4. Yeah, I know that's old. Especially since Mandrake keeps the rpms on their cooker mirrors. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
--- Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use galeon. Not the latest. I should upgrade galeon and mozilla. > Although I've been told that if I try the latest mozilla milestone, I > wouldn't use galeon. I mainly prefer galeon because of it's ability to > > disable pop-ups. Mozilla has had that feature for at least the past 2 releases. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
I use galeon. Not the latest. I should upgrade galeon and mozilla. Although I've been told that if I try the latest mozilla milestone, I wouldn't use galeon. I mainly prefer galeon because of it's ability to disable pop-ups. Bill On Monday 01 April 2002 05:56 pm, Net Llama wrote: > The middle frame is supposed to be for each mirror to include any unique > content branding stuff. > > Just curious, which browser did you use (or do you prefer)? > > thanks for your feedback! > > -Net LLama! > > --- Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't care for that middle frame. What's it for? And it's resizable > > in > > case it's not supposed to be. You can shrink it upward. I think the > > mirror > > and the editor tables might look better with a white background. But > > that's minor. The big thing for me is that middle frame. > > > > Bill > > > > On Monday 01 April 2002 01:42 pm, Net Llama wrote: > > > Fellow Pengiuns, > > > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design > > > > of > > > > > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > > > proof of concept: > > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > > > > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > > > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you > > > > think > > > > > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are > > > > too > > > > > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > > > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. > > > > > :) > > : > > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people > > > > who > > > > > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > > > attractive as possible. > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover > http://greetings.yahoo.com/ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Mr. David Bandel He he, I have I puffed you up some? David I like your css idea, but some of us just do not know how. I for one would like a little instruction here. Currently I am doing some html & javascript for a college class, and learning something new at the same time would be great. What do you say? Cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
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Hi,
Not exactly. With the script approach, you can add common HTML code to
the article: header, footer, etc. With CSS you can't.
Likewise, you can even create a WAP page, or an HTML page tuned for
AvantGo. Again, with CSS you can't.
Another advantage is that you can make things simpler. With CSS you
make things worse: The author besides having to make the article in
proper HTML, will have to know how to use styles. You can create
different tags and "map" them to the correct HTML tag (with the correct
CSS class). But this, by itself, is a topic of long discussion :)
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:29:37 -0500, David A. Bandel wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 19:19:03 -0300
>begin "Federico Voges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:
>
>[snip]
>>
>> I know I might be getting a bit off topic with this, but I think it's
>> worth giving it a thought.
>> You can't use scripting because of the mirrors. BUT, you can still use
>> scripting to generate static HTML specially articles/steps.
>>
>> Right now, if you want to change anything in the style of the pages,
>> you have to edit ALL of them. It's a real pain.
>>
>> Now, if you use some kind of HTML neutral markup (be it: XML, a HTML
>> subset, or whatever you like), you can use a script with a template to
>> generate all the static pages. It might be even simplify the steps
>> author's work.
>>
>
>This is what CSS is all about. you have a linux-sxs.css with some
>declared values, like:
>
>html.index { color: #009 ; background-color: #ffc }
>body.index { color: #009 ; background-color: #ffc }
>body.pananix { color: #009 ; background-color: #ffc ; text-align: left ;
>background-image: url(http://www.pananix.com/images/chiricano2.gif) ;
>background-position: top right ; background-repeat: no-repeat ;
>background-attachment: fixed } table.index { color: #009 ; text-align:
>center ; width: 100% } td.index { color: #009 ; text-align: center }
>td.linkdex { color: #009 ; text-align: center ; word-spacing: 1em }
>tr.index { color: #009 ; text-align: center }
>h1.index { color: darkblue ; text-align: center }
>h2.index { color: darkblue ; text-align: center }
>h2.rtext { color: red ; text-align: center }
>.pananix { color: #009; text-align: left }
>.index { color: #009; text-align: center }
>p.copyright { text-align: center; font-size: -8 }
>p.copyright:after { content: "Copyright© 1999-2002 Pananix, SA, All Rights
>Reserved." } A:link { color: #EF }
>A:visited { color: #51188E }
>A:active ( color: #36f }
>
>Then, each page uses markups like:
>
>
>
>and it uses the body.pananix markup for the entire page from the above
>definition.
>
>Ciao,
>
>David A. Bandel
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
The middle frame is supposed to be for each mirror to include any unique content branding stuff. Just curious, which browser did you use (or do you prefer)? thanks for your feedback! -Net LLama! --- Bill Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't care for that middle frame. What's it for? And it's resizable > in > case it's not supposed to be. You can shrink it upward. I think the > mirror > and the editor tables might look better with a white background. But > that's minor. The big thing for me is that middle frame. > > Bill > > On Monday 01 April 2002 01:42 pm, Net Llama wrote: > > Fellow Pengiuns, > > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design > of > > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > > proof of concept: > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you > think > > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are > too > > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. > :) > > > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people > who > > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > > attractive as possible. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 19:19:03 -0300
begin "Federico Voges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:
[snip]
>
> I know I might be getting a bit off topic with this, but I think it's
> worth giving it a thought.
> You can't use scripting because of the mirrors. BUT, you can still use
> scripting to generate static HTML specially articles/steps.
>
> Right now, if you want to change anything in the style of the pages,
> you have to edit ALL of them. It's a real pain.
>
> Now, if you use some kind of HTML neutral markup (be it: XML, a HTML
> subset, or whatever you like), you can use a script with a template to
> generate all the static pages. It might be even simplify the steps
> author's work.
>
This is what CSS is all about. you have a linux-sxs.css with some
declared values, like:
html.index { color: #009 ; background-color: #ffc }
body.index { color: #009 ; background-color: #ffc }
body.pananix { color: #009 ; background-color: #ffc ; text-align: left ;
background-image: url(http://www.pananix.com/images/chiricano2.gif) ;
background-position: top right ; background-repeat: no-repeat ;
background-attachment: fixed } table.index { color: #009 ; text-align:
center ; width: 100% } td.index { color: #009 ; text-align: center }
td.linkdex { color: #009 ; text-align: center ; word-spacing: 1em }
tr.index { color: #009 ; text-align: center }
h1.index { color: darkblue ; text-align: center }
h2.index { color: darkblue ; text-align: center }
h2.rtext { color: red ; text-align: center }
.pananix { color: #009; text-align: left }
.index { color: #009; text-align: center }
p.copyright { text-align: center; font-size: -8 }
p.copyright:after { content: "Copyright© 1999-2002 Pananix, SA, All Rights
Reserved." } A:link { color: #EF }
A:visited { color: #51188E }
A:active ( color: #36f }
Then, each page uses markups like:
and it uses the body.pananix markup for the entire page from the above
definition.
Ciao,
David A. Bandel
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
I don't care for that middle frame. What's it for? And it's resizable in case it's not supposed to be. You can shrink it upward. I think the mirror and the editor tables might look better with a white background. But that's minor. The big thing for me is that middle frame. Bill On Monday 01 April 2002 01:42 pm, Net Llama wrote: > Fellow Pengiuns, > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > proof of concept: > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you think > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are too > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. :) > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people who > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > attractive as possible. > > thanks, > Net Llama! > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover > http://greetings.yahoo.com/ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> Finally, have you considered using PHP (or any other script language)?? > >YES. We *cant*. Think of our mirrors. We've been down this road *many* times >(on the editors list, so you didn't know). Some of our mirrors are nothing >more than their user directory on somebody else's web server. We are >restricted to HTML only because of this. > >If we could use PHP/MySQL/Zope/etc, the site would be a lot "neater" than it >is I know I might be getting a bit off topic with this, but I think it's worth giving it a thought. You can't use scripting because of the mirrors. BUT, you can still use scripting to generate static HTML specially articles/steps. Right now, if you want to change anything in the style of the pages, you have to edit ALL of them. It's a real pain. Now, if you use some kind of HTML neutral markup (be it: XML, a HTML subset, or whatever you like), you can use a script with a template to generate all the static pages. It might be even simplify the steps author's work. Again, this is just an idea. And again too, I can help you with this. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPKjc1xRcJRaVKt4XEQLK4QCff81sChZbzFI+n/YbbQIXjZaXYd0AoOOz vX/Lq1zMWqtvPxDcjfpUU9Eh =EeZ+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 17:31:44 -0300
begin "Federico Voges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:
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> Hi,
>
> 1.- Too many frames = less screen space (I'm using 1280x1024 and the
> space for the "real content" is about 800x600). I don't like frames,
> but I don't mind if they are used in a very clever way (really tough to
> accomplish, though). :)
You can have the look of frames without frames with CSS.
>
> 2.- I don't like (at all) the top navigation graphics (font and size).
>
> 3.- I like the left nav bar.
>
> Finally, have you considered using PHP (or any other script language)??
> You can do a lot of stuff in an easy way (even generate new layouts in
> plain HTML).
>
> I can help with the HTML stuff. You can even convert all the articles
> to a pseudo XML markup and convert them on the fly. See:
> http://www.shadowsun.com.ar/~fvoges/misc/xml/test.xml,
> http://www.shadowsun.com.ar/~fvoges/misc/xml/xml2html.php3 and
> http://www.shadowsun.com.ar/~fvoges/misc/xml/xml2html.phps)
>
> This would solve the issue noted by David Bandel (the use of CSS). You
> can implement a simple (but powerfull) markup so editors/authors can
> create acrticles without the need to learn HTML.
>
> Answering the question of Net Llama, to every HTML tag you have to add
> CLASS='whatever':
>
>
>
some of this markup needs to be added to the table.sample stuff in the
.css file.
>
> Something here>
>
>
> Something else here>
>
>
>
> With this sample css:
> TABLE.sample {
> background-color: #FF;
> border: 1pt solid black;
> }
> TR.odd {
> background-color: #DD;
> }
> TR.even {
> background-color: #AA;
> }
>
> This will render a white table with the cells with a single black line
> border. The first row with a light gray bg and the second with a darker
> gray.
Look at my source code (http://www.pananix.com/ -- follow the products
page and make the screen small enough to scroll -- watch Tux stay in the
frame.
>
>
> If you want some help with this, just let me know. I have experience
> with big sites (ie: www.aunmas.com) using PHP, databases and css. Oh,
> BTW you can generate dynamic stylesheets tailored to specific browsers
> (ie: the "border:" CSS property won't work on NS 4).
and there are others that will only work in Netscape 6 (my use of the
copyright at the bottom of every page is not visible in IE5, Netscape 4,
(don't know about Kongi), etc.
but you're way out of my league -- I'm just an amateur. I use Perl when I
need to access a database (use DBI followed by: use DBD::Pg).
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:42:19 -0800 (PST), Net Llama wrote:
>
> >Fellow Pengiuns,
> >The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of
> >the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest
> >proof of concept:
> >http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html
> >
> >Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't
> >like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you think
> >the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are
> >too big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If
> >you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. :)
> >
> >Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people
> >who use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and
> >attractive as possible.
> >
Ciao,
David A. Bandel
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:44:15 -0500 begin Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > Net Llama spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > > > Frames are bad, and totally unnecessary. Dump the frames. If you > > > use CSS, you can get the effect of frames without the frames. > > just want to point out that the existing site uses frames. One of the > primary goals of the redesign has been "no NEW requirements". Wasn't aware of that requirement. It will make things easier on you though. > > > > > Yes, i realize that frames handicap alot of people using Lynx or older > > browsers. At the same time, I, personally, don't know CSS, so its not > > ah yes. but people who can't support frames, cant support CSS either. > have you checked the site with a browser that doesn't do frames? it > still is usable. I tried to make sure of it. Wrong answer. The beauty of CSS is that CSS is all about markup/content separation. In Lynx all you see is the content, not any markup. And for whatever reason, content displays _much_ better under Lynx with CSS. > > > Do you know of a good site that does a "CSS for dummies" type > > tutorial. Actually it doesn't even have to be watered down, just > > something for people who know HTML, but know nothing about CSS, and > > want to learn the basics quickly. http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/index.html I popped for the $19.95. Best $20 I ever spent on a web "book". Yep. Took me one night to learn CSS. Converted my site (some 6 pages) to CSS in about 2 hours. I'm no master, but this was just too easy. Now I can concentrate on content instead of layout. Brain-dead simple it is. Worth learning. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Federico Voges spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > 1.- Too many frames = less screen space (I'm using 1280x1024 and the > space for the "real content" is about 800x600). I don't like frames, > but I don't mind if they are used in a very clever way (really tough to > accomplish, though). :) known issue. we're on it. > > 2.- I don't like (at all) the top navigation graphics (font and size). damn. but, OK. > > 3.- I like the left nav bar. > thanks > Finally, have you considered using PHP (or any other script language)?? YES. We *cant*. Think of our mirrors. We've been down this road *many* times (on the editors list, so you didn't know). Some of our mirrors are nothing more than their user directory on somebody else's web server. We are restricted to HTML only because of this. If we could use PHP/MySQL/Zope/etc, the site would be a lot "neater" than it is -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org /* * We used to try various strange things. Let's not. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Net Llama spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > > Frames are bad, and totally unnecessary. Dump the frames. If you use > > CSS, you can get the effect of frames without the frames. just want to point out that the existing site uses frames. One of the primary goals of the redesign has been "no NEW requirements". > > Yes, i realize that frames handicap alot of people using Lynx or older > browsers. At the same time, I, personally, don't know CSS, so its not ah yes. but people who can't support frames, cant support CSS either. have you checked the site with a browser that doesn't do frames? it still is usable. I tried to make sure of it. > Do you know of a good site that does a "CSS for dummies" type tutorial. > Actually it doesn't even have to be watered down, just something for > people who know HTML, but know nothing about CSS, and want to learn the > basics quickly. the o'reilly HTML 4 book does a good job. but see my points above -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Don't underestimate the power of survival of the fittest - Linus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Monday 01 April 2002 03:03 pm, Net Llama! GANDALF conjoured thus: > OK, but why would you want a minimum of 880x980? If our target is someone > with 640x480 or 800x600, we're already missing that mark with your > settings. For my .02C worth the text is displayed as long and skinny two words wide. I also believe that the default web page sizes have changed to either 800x600 and 1024x768 these days. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > Other than that, the look and feel is good, if it weren't for all the > 404's! ;-}> obviously, I was gonna copy all the content over until we had a design down. hence the 404s... the main impetus was redesigning the "look" and not so much the content -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died. -- Steven Wright ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Collins spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > Ditto here about resizing (from Mozilla). It starts narrow and much > longer than my screen. I downloaded a javascript paper today. I was planning on fixing the resize later. I didn't know llama was going to announce the re-work. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org /* Binary compatibility is good American knowhow fsckin' up. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/sunos_ioctl.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Net Llama! spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: > > OK, but why would you want a minimum of 880x980? If our target is someone > with 640x480 or 800x600, we're already missing that mark with your > settings. I know. :( Because the 880 is the minimum I found to hold the new top banner bar. I really wanted to give this some more work first... but since it's out there... -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org /* Fsck. The f-word is here so you can grep for it :-) */ 2.4.3 linux/include/asm-mips/mmu_context.h ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Hash: SHA1
Hi,
1.- Too many frames = less screen space (I'm using 1280x1024 and the
space for the "real content" is about 800x600). I don't like frames,
but I don't mind if they are used in a very clever way (really tough to
accomplish, though). :)
2.- I don't like (at all) the top navigation graphics (font and size).
3.- I like the left nav bar.
Finally, have you considered using PHP (or any other script language)??
You can do a lot of stuff in an easy way (even generate new layouts in
plain HTML).
I can help with the HTML stuff. You can even convert all the articles
to a pseudo XML markup and convert them on the fly. See:
http://www.shadowsun.com.ar/~fvoges/misc/xml/test.xml,
http://www.shadowsun.com.ar/~fvoges/misc/xml/xml2html.php3 and
http://www.shadowsun.com.ar/~fvoges/misc/xml/xml2html.phps)
This would solve the issue noted by David Bandel (the use of CSS). You
can implement a simple (but powerfull) markup so editors/authors can
create acrticles without the need to learn HTML.
Answering the question of Net Llama, to every HTML tag you have to add
CLASS='whatever':
Something here>
Something else here>
With this sample css:
TABLE.sample {
background-color: #FF;
border: 1pt solid black;
}
TR.odd {
background-color: #DD;
}
TR.even {
background-color: #AA;
}
This will render a white table with the cells with a single black line
border. The first row with a light gray bg and the second with a darker
gray.
If you want some help with this, just let me know. I have experience
with big sites (ie: www.aunmas.com) using PHP, databases and css. Oh,
BTW you can generate dynamic stylesheets tailored to specific browsers
(ie: the "border:" CSS property won't work on NS 4).
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:42:19 -0800 (PST), Net Llama wrote:
>Fellow Pengiuns,
>The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of
>the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest
>proof of concept:
>http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html
>
>Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't
>like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you think
>the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are too
>big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If
>you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. :)
>
>Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people who
>use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and
>attractive as possible.
>
>thanks,
>Net Llama!
>
>=
>
>Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
--- "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, I'd like to say I think overall the site looks good. However > ... > > Frames are bad, and totally unnecessary. Dump the frames. If you use > CSS, you can get the effect of frames without the frames. Yes, i realize that frames handicap alot of people using Lynx or older browsers. At the same time, I, personally, don't know CSS, so its not as simple as just switching to them, unfortunately. > You'll get a more even feel across the pages if you use CSS. Then if > you > decide to change the look, you just need to change the .css and you're > done. > > Using CSS is really easy and it makes it so much cleaner and nicer. > Keeps > content and markup separate. One person maintains the .css, and the > editors can just be told which classes to use for certain effects. > Overall site management will be simpler. Do you know of a good site that does a "CSS for dummies" type tutorial. Actually it doesn't even have to be watered down, just something for people who know HTML, but know nothing about CSS, and want to learn the basics quickly. Thanks! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> Net Llama spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into:
> > Its not you. This is what is causing it to happen:
> >
> > function resize_view()
> > {
> > window.resizeTo(880,980)
> > }
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure why we need this, so we'll look into removing
> > and/or fixing that.
>
> I put it there to enforce a *minimum* window size. If someone could show me
> the javascript code to leave the browser alone if it's already bigger than
> this, please speak up.
OK, but why would you want a minimum of 880x980? If our target is someone
with 640x480 or 800x600, we're already missing that mark with your
settings.
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~~
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Net Llama spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into:
> Its not you. This is what is causing it to happen:
>
> function resize_view()
> {
> window.resizeTo(880,980)
> }
>
> I'm not entirely sure why we need this, so we'll look into removing
> and/or fixing that.
I put it there to enforce a *minimum* window size. If someone could show me
the javascript code to leave the browser alone if it's already bigger than
this, please speak up.
> > It looks a little funky in Konqi 2.2.2. The window resizes on its own
> > when
> > the page loads, squishing the intro paragraph between the
> > Mirror/Maintainer
> > table and the Editor table. In fact, it does the same in Moz, but it
> > looks
> > fine that way. I've got my font size jacked up in Konqueror, so maybe
> > that's
> > why it seems odd. I'd prefer it if it didn't resize itself. I like
> > my
> > windows to do as they're told.
it did as it was told ;)
see my comments above about why .
> > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html
please use http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ instead. thanks!
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Its not you. This is what is causing it to happen:
function resize_view()
{
window.resizeTo(880,980)
}
I'm not entirely sure why we need this, so we'll look into removing
and/or fixing that.
thanks for all of your feedback so far. Keep the comments coming!
-Lonni
--- Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It looks a little funky in Konqi 2.2.2. The window resizes on its own
> when
> the page loads, squishing the intro paragraph between the
> Mirror/Maintainer
> table and the Editor table. In fact, it does the same in Moz, but it
> looks
> fine that way. I've got my font size jacked up in Konqueror, so maybe
> that's
> why it seems odd. I'd prefer it if it didn't resize itself. I like
> my
> windows to do as they're told.
>
> On Monday 01 April 2002 10:42 am, you wrote:
> > Fellow Pengiuns,
> > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design
> of
> > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest
> > proof of concept:
> > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html
> >
> > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't
> > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you
> think
> > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are
> too
=
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
First, I'd like to say I think overall the site looks good. However ... Frames are bad, and totally unnecessary. Dump the frames. If you use CSS, you can get the effect of frames without the frames. You'll get a more even feel across the pages if you use CSS. Then if you decide to change the look, you just need to change the .css and you're done. Using CSS is really easy and it makes it so much cleaner and nicer. Keeps content and markup separate. One person maintains the .css, and the editors can just be told which classes to use for certain effects. Overall site management will be simpler. On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:42:19 -0800 (PST) begin Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > Fellow Pengiuns, > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > proof of concept: > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you think > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are too > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. :) > Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:25:51 -0800 "Condon Thomas A KPWA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > I must echo Aaron's comment about resizing. In IE it resizes to > taller than my display (and narrower), but thinks it is at full size. > So it won't scroll the data up and down. I have to shrink it and then > click on "full screen" in order to get it to behave correctly. > > Other than that, the look and feel is good, if it weren't for all the > 404's!;-}> > > > In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, > > Tom :-}) > > Thomas A. Condon > Barbershop Bass Singer > Registered Linux User #154358 > > > -Original Message- > > It looks a little funky in Konqi 2.2.2. The window resizes > > on its own when > > the page loads, squishing the intro paragraph between the > > Mirror/Maintainer > > table and the Editor table. In fact, it does the same in > > Moz, but it looks > > fine that way. I've got my font size jacked up in Konqueror, > > so maybe that's > > why it seems odd. I'd prefer it if it didn't resize itself. > > I like my > > windows to do as they're told. > > > > On Monday 01 April 2002 10:42 am, you wrote: > > > Fellow Pengiuns, > > > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout > > & design of > > > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out > > > latest proof of concept: > > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > > > > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you > > > don't like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! > > If you think > > > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the > > images are too > > > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > > > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell > > at you. :) > > > > > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from > > the people who > > > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful > > > and attractive as possible. > > > Ditto here about resizing (from Mozilla). It starts narrow and much longer than my screen. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15 2.4.19pre - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Redesign of SxS site in the works
I must echo Aaron's comment about resizing. In IE it resizes to taller than my display (and narrower), but thinks it is at full size. So it won't scroll the data up and down. I have to shrink it and then click on "full screen" in order to get it to behave correctly. Other than that, the look and feel is good, if it weren't for all the 404's! ;-}> In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 > -Original Message- > It looks a little funky in Konqi 2.2.2. The window resizes > on its own when > the page loads, squishing the intro paragraph between the > Mirror/Maintainer > table and the Editor table. In fact, it does the same in > Moz, but it looks > fine that way. I've got my font size jacked up in Konqueror, > so maybe that's > why it seems odd. I'd prefer it if it didn't resize itself. > I like my > windows to do as they're told. > > On Monday 01 April 2002 10:42 am, you wrote: > > Fellow Pengiuns, > > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout > & design of > > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > > proof of concept: > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! > If you think > > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the > images are too > > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell > at you. :) > > > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from > the people who > > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > > attractive as possible. > > > > thanks, > > Net Llama! > > > > = > > > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
It looks a little funky in Konqi 2.2.2. The window resizes on its own when the page loads, squishing the intro paragraph between the Mirror/Maintainer table and the Editor table. In fact, it does the same in Moz, but it looks fine that way. I've got my font size jacked up in Konqueror, so maybe that's why it seems odd. I'd prefer it if it didn't resize itself. I like my windows to do as they're told. On Monday 01 April 2002 10:42 am, you wrote: > Fellow Pengiuns, > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > proof of concept: > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you think > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are too > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. :) > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people who > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > attractive as possible. > > thanks, > Net Llama! > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover > http://greetings.yahoo.com/ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works
Net Llama wrote: > > Fellow Pengiuns, > The SxS editors are in the process of reworking the layout & design of > the SxS site to make it more usable for everyone. Here's out latest > proof of concept: > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/parent.html > > Please provide feedback, whether negative or positive. If you don't > like any of it, SAY SO! If you love all of it, tell us! If you think > the fonts are good or bad, let us know. If you think the images are too > big, small, pretty, ugly, stinky or otherwise, please tell us. If > you've got questions, please ask, i swear no one will yell at you. :) > > Remember, the SxS is your site, and without feedback from the people who > use it, we can't improve upon it! We want to make it as useful and > attractive as possible. > > thanks, > Net Llama! > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com Looks very good! Only thing I noticed was the store has white items against a white background, making it hard to discern the images. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
