Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Hipp
Matthew Carpenter wrote:
chmod 4755 `which smbmnt`

In order to do the mounting operation, smbmnt needs to be suid root.  Also, smbumount if you are using that one...  
Generally suid is considered to be A Bad Thing. Is this a case where it 
is a safe and advisable thing to do? Or just a last ditch solution and 
pray that it doesn't blow up?

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:38:34 -0400
Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 h  This is still required to use smbmount... I'm not certain
 about smbfs and /etc/fstab...
 
 Did you try the password= attribute?  Since most people don't do a
 blank password or a guest account, this may be a requirement...
 

Yes.  I've gotten used to smbclient now - transfer anything I need to my
side of the connection.  About the only thing I need this for is to burn
cds.  My older cdwriter package won't install on [EMAIL PROTECTED] WinXP, and I'm too
cheap to buy a new one.  Also, I still have Win98 on this machine, so I
can always boot that up if I can't get to the files any other way.

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:58:27 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/5/2003 11:52 AM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote:
 
  On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:04:51 -0600
  Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Collins Richey wrote:
 
 Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
 Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP
 box.
 
 
 If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
 then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
 user=guest).
 
 
 Thanks.  It works with user=guest.
 
 
 OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it varies)
 that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level
 directory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a
 separate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is
 there any way to get a given directory mounted for general use upon
 demand, either by command or by root command and make the
 permissionssuch that normal users can manipulate it?
  
  
  After further experimentation
  
  This works as root (no passwd prompt, no errors of any sort)
  
  mount -t smbfs -o guest //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins
  
  But it does not work from normal user relying on fstab entry
  
  //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
  noauto,user,guest  0 0
  
  I get
  
  mount //name/Collins
  cannot mount on /mnt/smb-collins: Operation not permitted
  smbmnt failed: 1
  
  Any ideas?
  
 
 Don't you need a username=guest line in there somewhere?
 Check 'man smbmount'
 

I've also tried that.  The mount command works with either -o guest or
-o user=guest,password= , but I've found no combination that will work
in fstab.

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:06:22 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/5/2003 2:08 PM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote:
 
  On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:58:27 -0400
  Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 On 8/5/2003 11:52 AM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:04:51 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Collins Richey wrote:
 
 
 Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd?
 
 Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP
 box.
 
 
 If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with
 password=,user=then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it
 may have to beuser=guest).
 
 
 Thanks.  It works with user=guest.
 
 
 OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it
 varies)that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high
 leveldirectory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need
 to do aseparate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in
 fstab, isthere any way to get a given directory mounted for
 general use upondemand, either by command or by root command and
 make the
 permissionssuch that normal users can manipulate it?
 
 
 After further experimentation
 
 This works as root (no passwd prompt, no errors of any sort)
 
 mount -t smbfs -o guest //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins
 
 But it does not work from normal user relying on fstab entry
 
 //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
 noauto,user,guest  0 0
 
 I get
 
 mount //name/Collins
 cannot mount on /mnt/smb-collins: Operation not permitted
 smbmnt failed: 1
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
 Don't you need a username=guest line in there somewhere?
 Check 'man smbmount'
 
  
  
  I've also tried that.  The mount command works with either -o guest
  or-o user=guest,password= , but I've found no combination that will
  work in fstab.
  
 
 Can't help you too much as I don't have a Windows share that doesn't 
 have a password. But, I set the PASSWD environment variable, and
 added://192.168.1.8/Tim /mnt/share smbfs noauto,user,rw  0 0
 to /etc/fstab and was able to mount the share with
 'mount /mnt/share'
 
 So perhaps setting USER=guest would work. Dunno if that's workable for
 
 you or not...
 
 Did you try:
 //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
noauto,user,rw,username=guest 0 0
 

Yes, mount fails as before.  I didn't include rw, but I don't think that
matters.

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 16:34:38 +0200
Klaus-Peter Schrage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Collins Richey wrote:
 
 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Collins Richey wrote:
   
 
 Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
 Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box.
 
 
 
 
   
 
 If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
 then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
 user=guest).
 
   
 
 Thanks.  It works with user=guest.
 
 
 
 
 OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it varies)
 that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level
 directory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a
 separate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is
 there any way to get a given directory mounted for general use upon
 demand, either by command or by root command and make the permissions
 such that normal users can manipulate it?
 
   
 
 Have you tried out smbclient which allows you to browse a samba share 
 without mounting it:
 smbclient //name_of _computer/directory_name ?
 
 Even more comfortable, in kde konqueror you can browse by entering the
 
 address
 smb://name_of _computer/directory_name
 (the same works in gnome nautilus, as far as I know).

Excellent suggestion.  Since I'm totally a novice with smb stuff, I
wasn't aware of smbclient.  That's a good workaround.

As to konqueror, browsing works after replying to about 10 dialog boxes,
since it doesn't aprove of user=quest without a password. Not
especially user friendly grin.

As to kde and gnome in general, I don't need the overhead, so this would
only be an occasional use item.

xfce xffm is supposed to allow browsing, but unfortunately (version 4)
it fails to expand my local network (no indication of errors, it just
doesn't work).

Thanks for the pointer.

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-12 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:46:55 -0400
Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 chmod 4755 `which smbmnt`

Sounds good, but no workie!  I still get the same error.

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-10 Thread Matthew Carpenter
h  This is still required to use smbmount... I'm not certain about
smbfs and /etc/fstab...

Did you try the password= attribute?  Since most people don't do a blank
password or a guest account, this may be a requirement...


On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:15:06 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:46:55 -0400
 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  chmod 4755 `which smbmnt`
 
 Sounds good, but no workie!  I still get the same error.
 
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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-08 Thread Matthew Carpenter
This is required for users to be able to use the SMB Mounting tools.

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 08:56:58 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Matthew Carpenter wrote:
  chmod 4755 `which smbmnt`
  
  In order to do the mounting operation, smbmnt needs to be suid root. 
  Also, smbumount if you are using that one...  
 
 Generally suid is considered to be A Bad Thing. Is this a case where it 
 is a safe and advisable thing to do? Or just a last ditch solution and 
 pray that it doesn't blow up?
 
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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-08 Thread Tim Wunder
On 8/5/2003 2:08 PM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote:

On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:58:27 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 8/5/2003 11:52 AM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote:


On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:04:51 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Collins Richey wrote:


Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP
box.


If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
user=guest).
Thanks.  It works with user=guest.

OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it varies)
that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level
directory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a
separate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is
there any way to get a given directory mounted for general use upon
demand, either by command or by root command and make the
permissionssuch that normal users can manipulate it?

After further experimentation

This works as root (no passwd prompt, no errors of any sort)

mount -t smbfs -o guest //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins

But it does not work from normal user relying on fstab entry

//name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
noauto,user,guest  0 0
I get

mount //name/Collins
cannot mount on /mnt/smb-collins: Operation not permitted
smbmnt failed: 1
Any ideas?

Don't you need a username=guest line in there somewhere?
Check 'man smbmount'


I've also tried that.  The mount command works with either -o guest or
-o user=guest,password= , but I've found no combination that will work
in fstab.
Can't help you too much as I don't have a Windows share that doesn't 
have a password. But, I set the PASSWD environment variable, and added:
//192.168.1.8/Tim /mnt/share smbfs noauto,user,rw  0 0
to /etc/fstab and was able to mount the share with
'mount /mnt/share'

So perhaps setting USER=guest would work. Dunno if that's workable for 
you or not...

Did you try:
//name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
  noauto,user,rw,username=guest 0 0
Good luck,
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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-07 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Collins Richey wrote:

On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Collins Richey wrote:
 

Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box.

   

 

If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
user=guest).
 

Thanks.  It works with user=guest.

   

OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it varies) that
I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level directory
(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a separate
mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is there any way
to get a given directory mounted for general use upon demand, either by
command or by root command and make the permissions such that normal
users can manipulate it?
 

Have you tried out smbclient which allows you to browse a samba share 
without mounting it:
smbclient //name_of _computer/directory_name ?

Even more comfortable, in kde konqueror you can browse by entering the 
address
smb://name_of _computer/directory_name
(the same works in gnome nautilus, as far as I know).
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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-06 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:04:51 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   Collins Richey wrote:
Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP
box.

 
   If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
   then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
   user=guest).
   
  
  Thanks.  It works with user=guest.
  
 
 OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it varies)
 that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level
 directory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a
 separate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is
 there any way to get a given directory mounted for general use upon
 demand, either by command or by root command and make the permissions
 such that normal users can manipulate it?

After further experimentation

This works as root (no passwd prompt, no errors of any sort)

mount -t smbfs -o guest //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins

But it does not work from normal user relying on fstab entry

//name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
noauto,user,guest  0 0

I get

mount //name/Collins
cannot mount on /mnt/smb-collins: Operation not permitted
smbmnt failed: 1

Any ideas?

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-06 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Collins Richey wrote:
   Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
   Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box.
   

  If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
  then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
  user=guest).
  
 
 Thanks.  It works with user=guest.
 

OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it varies) that
I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level directory
(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a separate
mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is there any way
to get a given directory mounted for general use upon demand, either by
command or by root command and make the permissions such that normal
users can manipulate it?



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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-06 Thread Matthew Carpenter
chmod 4755 `which smbmnt`

In order to do the mounting operation, smbmnt needs to be suid root.  Also, smbumount 
if you are using that one...  


On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:02:31 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:06:22 -0400
 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 8/5/2003 2:08 PM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote:
  
   On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:58:27 -0400
   Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
  On 8/5/2003 11:52 AM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote:
  
  
  On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:04:51 -0600
  Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
  Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  Collins Richey wrote:
  
  
  Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd?
  
  Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP
  box.
  
  
  If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with
  password=,user=then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it
  may have to beuser=guest).
  
  
  Thanks.  It works with user=guest.
  
  
  OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it
  varies)that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high
  leveldirectory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need
  to do aseparate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in
  fstab, isthere any way to get a given directory mounted for
  general use upondemand, either by command or by root command and
  make the
  permissionssuch that normal users can manipulate it?
  
  
  After further experimentation
  
  This works as root (no passwd prompt, no errors of any sort)
  
  mount -t smbfs -o guest //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins
  
  But it does not work from normal user relying on fstab entry
  
  //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
  noauto,user,guest  0 0
  
  I get
  
  mount //name/Collins
  cannot mount on /mnt/smb-collins: Operation not permitted
  smbmnt failed: 1
  
  Any ideas?
  
  
  Don't you need a username=guest line in there somewhere?
  Check 'man smbmount'
  
   
   
   I've also tried that.  The mount command works with either -o guest
   or-o user=guest,password= , but I've found no combination that will
   work in fstab.
   
  
  Can't help you too much as I don't have a Windows share that doesn't 
  have a password. But, I set the PASSWD environment variable, and
  added://192.168.1.8/Tim /mnt/share smbfs noauto,user,rw  0 0
  to /etc/fstab and was able to mount the share with
  'mount /mnt/share'
  
  So perhaps setting USER=guest would work. Dunno if that's workable for
  
  you or not...
  
  Did you try:
  //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \
 noauto,user,rw,username=guest 0 0
  
 
 Yes, mount fails as before.  I didn't include rw, but I don't think that
 matters.
 
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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-06 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Collins Richey schrieb:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 16:34:38 +0200
Klaus-Peter Schrage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Collins Richey wrote:


On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


Collins Richey wrote:



Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box.

  





If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
user=guest).


Thanks.  It works with user=guest.

  

OK, now to dig a little deeper.  The set of directories (it varies)
that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level
directory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a
separate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is
there any way to get a given directory mounted for general use upon
demand, either by command or by root command and make the permissions
such that normal users can manipulate it?


Have you tried out smbclient which allows you to browse a samba share 
without mounting it:
smbclient //name_of _computer/directory_name ?

Even more comfortable, in kde konqueror you can browse by entering the

address
smb://name_of _computer/directory_name
(the same works in gnome nautilus, as far as I know).


Excellent suggestion.  Since I'm totally a novice with smb stuff, I
wasn't aware of smbclient.  That's a good workaround.
As to konqueror, browsing works after replying to about 10 dialog boxes,
since it doesn't aprove of user=quest without a password. Not
especially user friendly grin.
To avoid any messing with passwords, why don't you simply mark all those 
directories on the XP computer that you want to see from your Linux 
machine as shares, i. e. in win explorer, right click at the resp. 
directories, go to shares and security or so (sorry, I only have the 
German menus) and make them shares?
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Samba with no passwords

2003-08-03 Thread Collins Richey
Just starting to experiment with samba to reach files that are on my
wife's WinXP machine accross the room.  Works OK  for file access using
the sample smb.conf file provided by gentoo (only modified to add my
workgroup), except for the nitpick described below.

When I mount a directory with

mount -t smbfs //ipaddress/Collins /mnt/samba

I get a couple of informative messages that I haven't supplied a
user/password.  Prompt for passwd follows.  I just hit enter, and all is
cool.

Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd?  Hint, I
have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box.

Flames anticipated, security, etc., etc., but this is only on my
internal net behind the router.

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-03 Thread Michael Hipp
Collins Richey wrote:
Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd?  Hint, I
have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box.
Flames anticipated, security, etc., etc., but this is only on my
internal net behind the router.
If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user= then 
you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be user=guest).

Michael

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Collins Richey wrote:
  Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? 
  Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box.
  
  Flames anticipated, security, etc., etc., but this is only on my
  internal net behind the router.
 
 If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user=
 then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be
 user=guest).
 

Thanks.  It works with user=guest.

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