Re: stale NFS handle

2003-10-02 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 12:05 am, Joel Hammer wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 07:24:38PM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > NFS literally drove me nuts. Best bet sofar, if you can stand the
> > permissions mangling is switching to samba. You'll be impressed with the
> > speed of samba 3.0 compared to NFS any version.
>
> I was using samba, not NFS, when this happened.  I had to reboot,
> anyway. The thing froze up, something it does from time to time. I think
> I have a bad hard drive.
>

So you did (tell me it was samba), Joel, my bad. Too many hours, too many 
viri... ;') 

Anyways, the same helpful tips apply as well to smb.

Cheers.


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Re: stale NFS handle

2003-09-30 Thread Joel Hammer
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 07:24:38PM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> NFS literally drove me nuts. Best bet sofar, if you can stand the permissions 
> mangling is switching to samba. You'll be impressed with the speed of samba 
> 3.0 compared to NFS any version.
I was using samba, not NFS, when this happened.  I had to reboot,
anyway. The thing froze up, something it does from time to time. I think
I have a bad hard drive.

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Re: stale NFS handle

2003-09-30 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 10:49 pm, Joel Hammer wrote:
> I mounted a drive on a server via samba on a client (/mnt/Backup) .
> I then changed smb.conf on the server to reference a different path, and
> now my client complains that there is a stale NFS handle on /mnt/Backup.
>
> Is there a way to fix this problem without rebooting?
>

Hi Joel...

I had similar experiences with NFS. You can try to shutdown the NFS daemons 
and then restarting them. The best suggestion I have for you is some 
hind-sight... It's always best to shutdown the NFS daemons before you make 
your config changes. :')

NFS literally drove me nuts. Best bet sofar, if you can stand the permissions 
mangling is switching to samba. You'll be impressed with the speed of samba 
3.0 compared to NFS any version.

Cheers.

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Re: stale NFS handle

2003-09-30 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Joel Hammer:
> I mounted a drive on a server via samba on a client (/mnt/Backup) .
> I then changed smb.conf on the server to reference a different path, and
> now my client complains that there is a stale NFS handle on /mnt/Backup. 
> 
> Is there a way to fix this problem without rebooting?

Unmount, restart Samba, remount? 

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stale NFS handle

2003-09-30 Thread Joel Hammer
I mounted a drive on a server via samba on a client (/mnt/Backup) .
I then changed smb.conf on the server to reference a different path, and
now my client complains that there is a stale NFS handle on /mnt/Backup. 

Is there a way to fix this problem without rebooting?

Thanks,

Joel


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Re: NFS responding on wrong interface

2003-07-28 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Bill Campbell:
> I'm having a wierd problem at one of our customer's sites.  The system has
> multiple IP addresses bound to one NIC, eth0 and eth0:[0-3].  NFS clients
> can't mount NFS directories because the UDP replies are coming from
> addresses other than eth0.

Would this be what is known as a multi-homed host? If so, it might
be necessary to update nfs-utils. See 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=550252 and
the chain of messages.

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Re: NFS responding on wrong interface

2003-07-28 Thread tom marinis
Greets Bill,

--- Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having a wierd problem at one of our customer's sites. 
> The system has
> multiple IP addresses bound to one NIC, eth0 and eth0:[0-3]. 
> NFS clients
> can't mount NFS directories because the UDP replies are coming
> from
> addresses other than eth0.
> 
> I've looked at the source for mountd.c, and there's no option
> to bind to a
> specific interface (the man pages don't have one so I went to
> the source to
> make sure that there's not an undocumented option).  The
> system in question
> is running Caldera eDesktop 2.4, but I've looked at the source
> on SuSE 8.2
> Professional and the code is largely the same.
> 
> It seems to me that the return packet should show as coming
> from the
> primary interface on that network.  The only thing I see that
> looks a
> little strange is that ``netstat -rn'' shows two routes to the
> internal
> network, both on eth0:
> 
> # netstat -rn
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS
> Window  irtt Iface
> 192.168.254.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0 
> 0 eth0
> 192.168.254.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0 
> 0 eth0
> 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0 0 
> 0 lo
> 0.0.0.0 192.168.254.8   0.0.0.0 UG0 0 
> 0 eth0
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Bill


I know I'm really late with this reply, but if
you are still trouble shooting, I do have a few ideas, 
but you'll probably laugh at me for mentioning them, since
I am still a newbie.


I noticed you've got your multiple ip's in the 192.168.254.X
range for eth0.  Can I ask if maybe the other clients 
moved very recently to differnet network subnets?


The only other things I can think of that you probably already
checked ;


the /etc/export file had been modified with wrong ip
   address or computer names to the proper shared directories,
   and of course, white space;

the mount volumes had been unmounted for fsck maintainence,
  with the clients still on the mount;

maybe someone modified the /etc/hosts.allow file, on either the
  server or the client, without remembering to tell anyone,
  for reasons of security.  A DENY ALL statement maybe
  somewhere?



I'm sorry Bill, but that's all I can really think of.   That's 
all this newbie can think of...
 


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NFS responding on wrong interface

2003-07-28 Thread Bill Campbell
I'm having a wierd problem at one of our customer's sites.  The system has
multiple IP addresses bound to one NIC, eth0 and eth0:[0-3].  NFS clients
can't mount NFS directories because the UDP replies are coming from
addresses other than eth0.

I've looked at the source for mountd.c, and there's no option to bind to a
specific interface (the man pages don't have one so I went to the source to
make sure that there's not an undocumented option).  The system in question
is running Caldera eDesktop 2.4, but I've looked at the source on SuSE 8.2
Professional and the code is largely the same.

It seems to me that the return packet should show as coming from the
primary interface on that network.  The only thing I see that looks a
little strange is that ``netstat -rn'' shows two routes to the internal
network, both on eth0:

# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.254.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
192.168.254.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.254.8   0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0

Any ideas?

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Re: Free (Beer of Speech) Windows NFS Clients?

2003-06-02 Thread Kurt Wall
An unnamed Administration source, Shawn L Johnston, wrote:
> 
> 
> Rick Sivernell wrote:
> >
> >Kurt
> >
> >   I beleive that it is in Win2k, or the ability to perform the task. I 
> >   have a
> >win2k box that has read nfs from both solaris  & the old caldera linux 
> >look at
> >the property box on the selected drive in winders.
> >
> >cheers
> 
> No, its not there by default. I think the Resource Kit has NFS, but this 
> is a commercial addon ;(

Bummer. I didn´t find any support in the stock Windows 2K. 
 
> The last time I looked I didn't see anything promising for open source 
> NFS for windows. I'd also be very interested in hearing if you find 
> anything Kurt.

I´ll keep you posted.

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Re: Free (Beer of Speech) Windows NFS Clients?

2003-06-02 Thread Shawn L Johnston


Rick Sivernell wrote:
Kurt

   I beleive that it is in Win2k, or the ability to perform the task. I have a
win2k box that has read nfs from both solaris  & the old caldera linux look at
the property box on the selected drive in winders.
cheers
No, its not there by default. I think the Resource Kit has NFS, but this 
is a commercial addon ;(

The last time I looked I didn't see anything promising for open source 
NFS for windows. I'd also be very interested in hearing if you find 
anything Kurt.

Shawn

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Re: Free (Beer of Speech) Windows NFS Clients?

2003-06-02 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:06:16 -0400
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, list,
> 
> Does anyone know of open source implementations of an NFS client for
> Windows 2K or XP besides something that might be available for Cygwin?
> I'm aware of some commercial ones (Labtam's, for instance), but at
> the moment I'm looking for open source versions that are not encumbered
> by nagware.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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   I beleive that it is in Win2k, or the ability to perform the task. I have a
win2k box that has read nfs from both solaris  & the old caldera linux look at
the property box on the selected drive in winders.

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Free (Beer of Speech) Windows NFS Clients?

2003-06-02 Thread Kurt Wall
Hi, list,

Does anyone know of open source implementations of an NFS client for
Windows 2K or XP besides something that might be available for Cygwin?
I'm aware of some commercial ones (Labtam's, for instance), but at
the moment I'm looking for open source versions that are not encumbered
by nagware.

Thanks,

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Re: NFS, Portmap, Port Numbers, Firewalls

2003-03-02 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Jason Joines wrote:
% I'm trying to get NFS to work through my firewall without much 
% luck.  Portmap and NFS stay on dedicated ports but all those RPC 
% processes (statd, mountd, etc.) keep changing port numbers.  Is there 
% any way to make these stick to a specific port?

I don't recall if you ever got an answer to this. For statd, specify
"-o port_num" for outgoing ports and "-p port_num" for incoming ports.
For mountd, specify "-p port_num".

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NFS, Portmap, Port Numbers, Firewalls

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Joines
I'm trying to get NFS to work through my firewall without much 
luck.  Portmap and NFS stay on dedicated ports but all those RPC 
processes (statd, mountd, etc.) keep changing port numbers.  Is there 
any way to make these stick to a specific port?

Thanks,

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Re: Why are NFS permissions suddenly denied.

2002-12-30 Thread kbb0927
David,

Thanks for the info, I solved it by editing the /etc/exports and fixing
the permissions that somehow got barfled.

Regards,

Keith B.

"David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>Keith,
>
>Check to make sure:
>1.  portmapper is running on all systems (server and client)
>2.  that portmapper started before your rpc.xxx functions got called
>
>try this:
>rpcinfo -p  (this command may not be found on some distros)
>you should see nfs and mountd anyway.  If portmapper is started after the
>programs it needs to track it won't know about them.
>
>
>
>On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 12:09:15 -0500
>begin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
>
>> Hello List,
>> 
>> I am running a home lan of mixed linux/windoze boxen.  My server is a
>> pure SuSE 7.2 with seperate partitions for /home and /public.  I was
>> trying to back up the information using BRU personal v17.0 (it kept
>> hanging), in preparation for upgrading the server to SuSE 8.0. Prior to
>> doing anything I umounted all linux & windoze boxen from the server
>> while the backup was running.  I decided to forget about it,as BRU kept
>> failing to write to a tape without alot of errors, and just keep on
>> using SuSE 7.2.  However, when I went to remount all the boxen, only the
>> windoze will mount the server.  Each time I try to mount with a linux
>> box, I get; Unable to mount...permission denied".
>> 
>> Anyone got any clues as to what is wrong?  the /etc/exports did not
>> change The permissions on it AFAIK are the same. I can telnet or ssh
>> into the server from ANY linux boxen. /etc/hosts.allow =
>> ALL:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0.
>> 
>> Any help appreciated.  Could I just copy my smb.conf files and do a
>> fresh install of SuSE 8.0 preserving /home and /public?  BTW
>> /etc/exports looks like this:   /public \
>>              /cdrom  \mnt\cdrom
>> 
>
>Ciao,
>
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Re: Why are NFS permissions suddenly denied.

2002-12-30 Thread David A. Bandel
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Keith,

Check to make sure:
1.  portmapper is running on all systems (server and client)
2.  that portmapper started before your rpc.xxx functions got called

try this:
rpcinfo -p  (this command may not be found on some distros)
you should see nfs and mountd anyway.  If portmapper is started after the
programs it needs to track it won't know about them.



On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 12:09:15 -0500
begin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

> Hello List,
> 
> I am running a home lan of mixed linux/windoze boxen.  My server is a
> pure SuSE 7.2 with seperate partitions for /home and /public.  I was
> trying to back up the information using BRU personal v17.0 (it kept
> hanging), in preparation for upgrading the server to SuSE 8.0. Prior to
> doing anything I umounted all linux & windoze boxen from the server
> while the backup was running.  I decided to forget about it,as BRU kept
> failing to write to a tape without alot of errors, and just keep on
> using SuSE 7.2.  However, when I went to remount all the boxen, only the
> windoze will mount the server.  Each time I try to mount with a linux
> box, I get; Unable to mount...permission denied".
> 
> Anyone got any clues as to what is wrong?  the /etc/exports did not
> change The permissions on it AFAIK are the same. I can telnet or ssh
> into the server from ANY linux boxen. /etc/hosts.allow =
> ALL:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0.
> 
> Any help appreciated.  Could I just copy my smb.conf files and do a
> fresh install of SuSE 8.0 preserving /home and /public?  BTW
> /etc/exports looks like this:   /public \
>  /cdrom  \mnt\cdrom
> 

Ciao,

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RE: Why are NFS permissions suddenly denied - SOLVED.

2002-12-29 Thread kbb0927
Had to arrange the file to put it in th right sequence:
/public/
192.168.x.x/255.255.255.x(rw)

This fixed it.

Regards,

Keith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hello List,
>
>I am running a home lan of mixed linux/windoze boxen.  My server is a pure
>SuSE 7.2 with seperate partitions for /home and /public.  I was trying to
>back up the information using BRU personal v17.0 (it kept hanging), in
>preparation for upgrading the server to SuSE 8.0. Prior to doing anything
>I umounted all linux & windoze boxen from the server while the backup was
>running.  I decided to forget about it,as BRU kept failing to write to
>a tape without alot of errors, and just keep on using SuSE 7.2.  However,
>when I went to remount all the boxen, only the windoze will mount the
>server.  Each time I try to mount with a linux box, I get; Unable to 
>mount...permission denied".
>
>Anyone got any clues as to what is wrong?  the /etc/exports did not change
>The permissions on it AFAIK are the same. I can telnet or ssh into the
>server from ANY linux boxen. /etc/hosts.allow = ALL:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0.
>
>Any help appreciated.  Could I just copy my smb.conf files and do a fresh
>install of SuSE 8.0 preserving /home and /public?  BTW /etc/exports looks
>like this:   /public \
>             /cdrom  \mnt\cdrom
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Keith
>
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Re: Why are NFS permissions suddenly denied.

2002-12-29 Thread kbb0927
Jerry,

This is what I had been using for the last year or so and had no issues until
today.  Each linux boxen is a dualboot except for one and each user has the
prefix of "lnx" in front of the the machine name which is the same as the
user name i.e, machine keith would be lnxkeith which is mapped to user
keith.  Again, this all was working happily until today when it just stopped
for no apparent reason.

Regards,

Keith
Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 12:09:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>> /etc/hosts.allow = ALL:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0.
>> 
>
>Shouldn't that read:
>
>all:127.0.0.1
>all:192.161.1./255.255.255.0
>portmap:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0
>
>>  Could I just copy my smb.conf files...
>
>As long as the two sambas are of the same or close version numbers and
>compiled with the same directory configuration... yes.
>
>> /etc/exports looks like this:   
>/public \
>/cdrom  \mnt\cdrom
>
>You're not stating any options in the exported resources, are you sure the
>defaults are correct?
>
>On my private lan, my server has:
>
>#/etc/exports
>#
>/ spyro(rw,no_root_squash,insecure)
>/ sid(rw,no_root_squash,insecure)
>
>This allows user sid and spyro to nfs mount the server root with no security.
>
>Cheers and good luck.
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Re: Why are NFS permissions suddenly denied.

2002-12-29 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 12:09:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> /etc/hosts.allow = ALL:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0.
> 

Shouldn't that read:

all:127.0.0.1
all:192.161.1./255.255.255.0
portmap:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0

>  Could I just copy my smb.conf files...

As long as the two sambas are of the same or close version numbers and
compiled with the same directory configuration... yes.

> /etc/exports looks like this:   
/public \
/cdrom  \mnt\cdrom

You're not stating any options in the exported resources, are you sure the
defaults are correct?

On my private lan, my server has:

#/etc/exports
#
/ spyro(rw,no_root_squash,insecure)
/ sid(rw,no_root_squash,insecure)

This allows user sid and spyro to nfs mount the server root with no security.

Cheers and good luck.


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Why are NFS permissions suddenly denied.

2002-12-29 Thread kbb0927
Hello List,

I am running a home lan of mixed linux/windoze boxen.  My server is a pure
SuSE 7.2 with seperate partitions for /home and /public.  I was trying to
back up the information using BRU personal v17.0 (it kept hanging), in
preparation for upgrading the server to SuSE 8.0. Prior to doing anything
I umounted all linux & windoze boxen from the server while the backup was
running.  I decided to forget about it,as BRU kept failing to write to
a tape without alot of errors, and just keep on using SuSE 7.2.  However,
when I went to remount all the boxen, only the windoze will mount the
server.  Each time I try to mount with a linux box, I get; Unable to 
mount...permission denied".

Anyone got any clues as to what is wrong?  the /etc/exports did not change
The permissions on it AFAIK are the same. I can telnet or ssh into the
server from ANY linux boxen. /etc/hosts.allow = ALL:192.161.1.0/255.255.255.0.

Any help appreciated.  Could I just copy my smb.conf files and do a fresh
install of SuSE 8.0 preserving /home and /public?  BTW /etc/exports looks
like this:   /public \
 /cdrom  \mnt\cdrom

Best Regards,

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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-26 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 03:55:42PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:52:58 -0500 Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>---big snip---
>
>> How's that?  Does that scare you?  Granted, if you run this locally, you
>> have the security of your lock and walls... unless you run wireless, and
>> that isn't a lot of security anyway.
>> 
>
>It's pretty bad, but NFS is one of the more common network aware file systems.

NFS Security isn't great, but it's orders of magnitude better than what
passes for security on Windows systems (it would be better if people knew
there's no security in Windows rather than putting faith in Microsoft's
``Kindergarten Cryptographers'').  NFS security clients is probably no
worse than that of the most insecure machine connecting.

The biggest reason I think most people use Samba rather than NFS with
Windows boxen is that it's generally easier to use, and requires less to
configure on the Windows clients.

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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-26 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:52:58 -0500 Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


---big snip---

> How's that?  Does that scare you?  Granted, if you run this locally, you
> have the security of your lock and walls... unless you run wireless, and
> that isn't a lot of security anyway.
> 

It's pretty bad, but NFS is one of the more common network aware file systems.




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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-26 Thread Matthew Carpenter
(this is more theoretical knowledge than experiencial, so correct me if
I'm wrong)

Basically, NFS is one of those odd occurrences of poorly
designed security in Unix.  Functionality, however, is generally very
nice if done right.  Notice the quote below that neither Users or Hosts
are easily authenticated.  This is important because the filesystem is
basically made use of as if it were local.  If have something like NIS,
that isn't as big a problem, but if you're not using NIS, you could have
a user ID which is 501 on one box and 100 on another.  Since all
security is done through numbers, this would create an inconsistency
between the two machines... and allow the user to access user 501's
files on the other machine.  Also, since the Hosts can't be
authenticated, it is not difficult to make your hacker laptop look like
an authorized host (by downing or unplugging a host from the network)
and suddently your user 0 (root) has access to all files shared on NFS
on the network, without having to know anyone else's password.

How's that?  Does that scare you?  Granted, if you run this locally, you
have the security of your lock and walls... unless you run wireless, and
that isn't a lot of security anyway.


On Sun, 24 Nov 2002
02:11:54-0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:13:52 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Jerry, what do we need to look out for as far as security goes for
> > NFS systems?  I was of the understanding NFS can have security
> > problems.
> > 
> > 
> 
> If it's firewalled, the only security concern is internal. If you open
> the firewall up for access by clients across the network, you open
> yourself for all kinds of trouble as NFS transactions are totally "in
> the clear". And I got news for you... samba ain't much better. :')
> 
> NFS falls easy victim to any hacker that can sniff a packet and
> arrange a spoof attack. 
> 
> I found a wonderfully content rich article covering the fine points of
> hardening your NFS connections via ssh at Sys Admin Magazine...
> 
> If I may quote:
> 
> "The main problems with NFS are that it relies on the inherently
> insecure UDP protocol, transactions are not encrypted, hosts and users
> cannot be easily authenticated, and its difficulty in firewalling..."
> 
> The complete article covering the fine points of hardening your NFS
> connections via ssh is at:
> http://www.samag.com/documents/s=4072/sam0203d/sam0203d.htm
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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-24 Thread Jerry McBride
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:12:27 +0800 "m.w.chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> and there is no free NFS clients for window$? if there is a client for
> WIndows, I could drop samba,
> 

I never found a decent, free NFS for windows. Although there's plenty of
commercial ones available.


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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-24 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Not that I know of.  Win2K server was supposed to have it but I never 
checked into it - we dropped NFS at the time we moved the connections from 
VMS to Win2K.


> and there is no free NFS clients for window$? if there is a client for
> WIndows, I could drop samba,
> 
> Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
>> Depends. With windows machines you need Samba (unless they have NFS
>> installed which most don't).  NFS is nice for unix/linux to unix/linux
>> but there are security issues that have to be addressed.
> 
>> 
> 

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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-24 Thread m.w.chang
and there is no free NFS clients for window$? if there is a client for
WIndows, I could drop samba,

Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> Depends. With windows machines you need Samba (unless they have NFS 
> installed which most don't).  NFS is nice for unix/linux to unix/linux but 
> there are security issues that have to be addressed.

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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks.  I'll read the article.


> On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:13:52 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Jerry, what do we need to look out for as far as security goes for NFS
>> systems?  I was of the understanding NFS can have security problems.
>> 
>> 
> 
> If it's firewalled, the only security concern is internal. If you open the
> firewall up for access by clients across the network, you open yourself
> for all kinds of trouble as NFS transactions are totally "in the clear".
> And I got news for you... samba ain't much better. :')
> 
> NFS falls easy victim to any hacker that can sniff a packet and arrange a
> spoof attack.
> 
> I found a wonderfully content rich article covering the fine points of
> hardening your NFS connections via ssh at Sys Admin Magazine...

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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-23 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:13:52 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Jerry, what do we need to look out for as far as security goes for NFS 
> systems?  I was of the understanding NFS can have security problems.
> 
> 

If it's firewalled, the only security concern is internal. If you open the
firewall up for access by clients across the network, you open yourself for
all kinds of trouble as NFS transactions are totally "in the clear". And I
got news for you... samba ain't much better. :')

NFS falls easy victim to any hacker that can sniff a packet and arrange a spoof
attack. 

I found a wonderfully content rich article covering the fine points of
hardening your NFS connections via ssh at Sys Admin Magazine...

If I may quote:

"The main problems with NFS are that it relies on the inherently insecure UDP
protocol, transactions are not encrypted, hosts and users cannot be easily
authenticated, and its difficulty in firewalling..."

The complete article covering the fine points of hardening your NFS connections
via ssh is at: http://www.samag.com/documents/s=4072/sam0203d/sam0203d.htm



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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Jerry, what do we need to look out for as far as security goes for NFS 
systems?  I was of the understanding NFS can have security problems.


> On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:09:48 +0800 "m.w.chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Is it better to use samba to share files for LAN?
>> 
> 
> Like everything else... If your lan is totally Linux, then NFS will serve
> you very well. You'll find it fast, easy to setup and admin. Although
> there's windows utilities that will integrate them into an NFS network,
> the best ones are commercial apps and can be very expensive.
> 
> Samba is mostly useful if you happen to provide lan services to windows
> users. Samba integrates seamlessly into a mix of linux and windows nearly
> perfectly. The only sore point I have with samba is that there is no
> perfect common ground between file systems in regards to file attributes
> and user ownership. Depending how you have your smb.conf setup... copying
> a file across samba to a linux client and it'll end up with the execute
> attribute turned on...
> 
> If you are just getting into setting up your first linux lan, then NFS is
> perfect.
> 
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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-23 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:09:48 +0800 "m.w.chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Is it better to use samba to share files for LAN?
> 

Like everything else... If your lan is totally Linux, then NFS will serve you
very well. You'll find it fast, easy to setup and admin. Although there's
windows utilities that will integrate them into an NFS network, the best ones
are commercial apps and can be very expensive.

Samba is mostly useful if you happen to provide lan services to windows users.
Samba integrates seamlessly into a mix of linux and windows nearly perfectly.
The only sore point I have with samba is that there is no perfect common ground
between file systems in regards to file attributes and user ownership. Depending
how you have your smb.conf setup... copying a file across samba to a linux
client and it'll end up with the execute attribute turned on...

If you are just getting into setting up your first linux lan, then NFS is
perfect.


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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Depends. With windows machines you need Samba (unless they have NFS 
installed which most don't).  NFS is nice for unix/linux to unix/linux but 
there are security issues that have to be addressed.

> 
> Is it better to use samba to share files for LAN?
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Re: NFS vs samba

2002-11-23 Thread m.w.chang

Is it better to use samba to share files for LAN?

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NFS Woes

2002-11-23 Thread kbb0927
Hello,

I have two of my boxen on my home net using RH 8, with all the current
updates.  Each has nfs, nfslockd, network, xinetd running. On the first
box I can mount my remote server (192.168.1.6, SuSE 7.2) without a hitch. I is using a 
Realtek NIC 10/100 card on an RJ45 plug, the second box always RPC time out. It uses a 
Realtek NIC 10/100 on a BNC coxial uplinked to a RJ45 switch box.

Now, I can ping everywhere and everyone with either box. I can even ping the server 
(192.168.1.6) from the second, but it will not mount the exported directory on the 
server, while the  first box will. I can mount the server from other distros on this 
same box (second box), but not if
I use RH8.  The appropriate line from /etc/fstab reads:

192.168.1.6:/public/lnx_fs nfsdefaults 0 0 (second box)
(192.168.1.6:/public/lnx_fs nfsdefaults 0 0 ( first box also))

It will not mount though,

Please point me in the right direction. I am a novice user and am new to
RedHat, as I useother distros before this (SuSE 7.2,8, 8.1; Lycoris.

Regards,

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Re: Cant mount via NFS

2002-11-10 Thread kbb0927
Kurt,

etc/exports on the server shows:
 
/public \
/cdrom \media\cdrom
192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0

Thanks,

Keith B.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 03:10:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have a crazy problem. I am running RH 8 on 3 machines. All from the
>> personal CD I bought. Only on one machine will it access my SuSE server
>> using /etc/fstab.  The other 2 will _NOT_ and RPC just times out.
>> 
>> the line from fstab looks like this:  lnx_fs:/public  /lnx_fs  nfs  defaults 0 0
>> 
>> I am running smb, nfs, xinetd, autofs, telnet, netfs, nfslock, network 
>> services.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong.  I can ping the server (192.168.1.6) just fine
>> It is setup in hosts correctly. I can telnet to the server also. NFS 
>> just will _NOT_ connect, except for the one machine. All are set up
>> exactly alike in terms of services.
>
>What's in /etc/exports on the server?
>
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Re: Cant mount via NFS

2002-11-10 Thread kwall
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 03:10:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I have a crazy problem. I am running RH 8 on 3 machines. All from the
> personal CD I bought. Only on one machine will it access my SuSE server
> using /etc/fstab.  The other 2 will _NOT_ and RPC just times out.
> 
> the line from fstab looks like this:  lnx_fs:/public  /lnx_fs  nfs  defaults 0 0
> 
> I am running smb, nfs, xinetd, autofs, telnet, netfs, nfslock, network 
> services.
> 
> What am I doing wrong.  I can ping the server (192.168.1.6) just fine
> It is setup in hosts correctly. I can telnet to the server also. NFS 
> just will _NOT_ connect, except for the one machine. All are set up
> exactly alike in terms of services.

What's in /etc/exports on the server?

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Re: Cant mount via NFS

2002-11-10 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:41:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I don't understand Jerry.  All the other linux boxen mount the server
> just fine, only these two boxen. 

It may just be possible that these two boxes are being blocked at the exports
file on the server, or by the hosts.deny file on the server.

Without having access to the system it's a bit tough to crystal ball all the
possibilities that would keep a client from logging into a server. Whare you
should probably start looking for clues is in the /var/log/messages file on the
server and on each client. What ever is going wrong should be getting logged
there.

Once you know the complaint, it'll be easy to determine a correct fix. NFS
setup on linux is a dream when compared to something like samba.

Have a look see and email me direct if you need more help.






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Re: Cant mount via NFS

2002-11-10 Thread kbb0927
I don't understand Jerry.  All the other linux boxen mount the server
just fine, only these two boxen. The server is running SuSE 7.2 since 
5/2001.  All of my boxen are upgraded to 8.1 recently except the gateway.
If I run SuSE 8.1 from the same boxen, no problems. Just RH 8.

Do you mean check the permissions on these boxen or the server?

Regards,

Keith B.

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>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have a crazy problem. I am running RH 8 on 3 machines. All from the
>> personal CD I bought. Only on one machine will it access my SuSE server
>> using /etc/fstab.  The other 2 will _NOT_ and RPC just times out.
>> 
>
>Check your /etc/exports and all of your /etc/hosts.* files for proper
>permissions.
>
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Re: Cant mount via NFS

2002-11-10 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:10:13 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I have a crazy problem. I am running RH 8 on 3 machines. All from the
> personal CD I bought. Only on one machine will it access my SuSE server
> using /etc/fstab.  The other 2 will _NOT_ and RPC just times out.
> 

Check your /etc/exports and all of your /etc/hosts.* files for proper
permissions.


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Cant mount via NFS

2002-11-10 Thread kbb0927
Hello All,

I have a crazy problem. I am running RH 8 on 3 machines. All from the
personal CD I bought. Only on one machine will it access my SuSE server
using /etc/fstab.  The other 2 will _NOT_ and RPC just times out.

the line from fstab looks like this:  lnx_fs:/public  /lnx_fs  nfs  defaults 0 0

I am running smb, nfs, xinetd, autofs, telnet, netfs, nfslock, network 
services.

What am I doing wrong.  I can ping the server (192.168.1.6) just fine
It is setup in hosts correctly. I can telnet to the server also. NFS 
just will _NOT_ connect, except for the one machine. All are set up
exactly alike in terms of services.

Thanks in advance,

Keith B.


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cable modem through a SuSE 8.0 box as a gateway.
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Re: My Mandrake 8.2 keeps going to sleep and I have an NFS Export that I need so I don't want it to.

2002-06-14 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

Look at
/etc/sysconfig/apmd
might help with some of your suspend problems

On Friday 14 June 2002 06:59 am, James McDonald wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Small problem I have an Mdk8.2 installed on  a pIII 600/256MB RAM VIA mb.
> The hard disk seems to turn off (power save/sleep or something) and the
> whole machine doesn't respond to network requests from my other boxes...
> until I switch my KVM switch to it and touch a key to wake it up... I store
> files on this... that I access every hour or so...
>
> I can't find anything in KDE, or maybe I have ping pong balls for eyes.
>
> Any suggestions?


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Re: My Mandrake 8.2 keeps going to sleep and I have an NFS Exportthat I need so I don't want it to.

2002-06-14 Thread Net Llama!

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, James McDonald wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Small problem I have an Mdk8.2 installed on  a pIII 600/256MB RAM VIA mb. The
> hard disk seems to turn off (power save/sleep or something) and the whole
> machine doesn't respond to network requests from my other boxes... until I
> switch my KVM switch to it and touch a key to wake it up... I store files on
> this... that I access every hour or so...
>
> I can't find anything in KDE, or maybe I have ping pong balls for eyes.

It prolly is KDE  ;)

Seriously though, i'd suspect one of these:
1) hdparm
2) apm
3) your BIOS

those are the only 3 that could spin down a HD.

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My Mandrake 8.2 keeps going to sleep and I have an NFS Export that I need so I don't want it to.

2002-06-14 Thread James McDonald

Hi All,

Small problem I have an Mdk8.2 installed on  a pIII 600/256MB RAM VIA mb. The 
hard disk seems to turn off (power save/sleep or something) and the whole 
machine doesn't respond to network requests from my other boxes... until I 
switch my KVM switch to it and touch a key to wake it up... I store files on 
this... that I access every hour or so...

I can't find anything in KDE, or maybe I have ping pong balls for eyes.

Any suggestions?

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Re: nfs ?

2002-03-25 Thread Collins

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:07:01 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:59:07 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> 
> > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:49:31 -0500 Jerry McBride
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:58 -0700
> > Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 
> > > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:55:15 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:> Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS
> > > > setup so that I> can access files on my other PC across the lan?
> > > > > 
> > > > > A real NFS for Idiots would be what I need.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > oops, I didn't search hard enough on the sxs site.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > If you run a journalling file system, SAMBA will be quite faster.
> > > 
> > 
> > And SAMBA will share filesystems on linux hosts?  I was only aware
> > of its use for Windows <-> Linux.
> > 
> 
>  You are misstaken. SAMBA runs quite nicely in a pure linux network.
>  In fact, we're finding it superior to NFS.

Cool, I'll try it out.


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Re: nfs ?

2002-03-24 Thread Jerry McBride

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:59:07 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:49:31 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:58 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:> 
> > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:55:15 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:> Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS setup
> > > so that I> can access files on my other PC across the lan?
> > > > 
> > > > A real NFS for Idiots would be what I need.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > oops, I didn't search hard enough on the sxs site.
> > >
> > 
> > If you run a journalling file system, SAMBA will be quite faster.
> > 
> 
> And SAMBA will share filesystems on linux hosts?  I was only aware of
> its use for Windows <-> Linux.
> 

 You are misstaken. SAMBA runs quite nicely in a pure linux network. In
fact, we're finding it superior to NFS.



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Re: nfs ?

2002-03-24 Thread Mike Andrew



> Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS setup so that I can

yep, it's on Steps site, and it works(tm).




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Re: nfs ?

2002-03-24 Thread Collins

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:49:31 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:58 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> 
> > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:55:15 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:> Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS setup
> > so that I> can access files on my other PC across the lan?
> > > 
> > > A real NFS for Idiots would be what I need.
> > > 
> > 
> > oops, I didn't search hard enough on the sxs site.
> >
> 
> If you run a journalling file system, SAMBA will be quite faster.
> 

And SAMBA will share filesystems on linux hosts?  I was only aware of
its use for Windows <-> Linux.

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Re: nfs ?

2002-03-24 Thread Jerry McBride

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:58 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:55:15 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS setup so that I
> > can access files on my other PC across the lan?
> > 
> > A real NFS for Idiots would be what I need.
> > 
> 
> oops, I didn't search hard enough on the sxs site.
>

If you run a journalling file system, SAMBA will be quite faster.

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Re: nfs ?

2002-03-24 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:58 -0700
Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:55:15 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS setup so that I
> > can access files on my other PC across the lan?
> > 
> > A real NFS for Idiots would be what I need.
> > 
> 
> oops, I didn't search hard enough on the sxs site.
> 
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Collins

 I just used webmin, real easy
 Looks like I may just install a gentoo on a system that crapped out a hard disk.
It did have Solaris *, a small drive going bad, I will remove it and go all Linux,
appears sun is going linux too, from what little I read on their site today.

cheers

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Re: nfs ?

2002-03-24 Thread Collins

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:55:15 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS setup so that I
> can access files on my other PC across the lan?
> 
> A real NFS for Idiots would be what I need.
> 

oops, I didn't search hard enough on the sxs site.

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nfs ?

2002-03-24 Thread Collins

Does anyone have ans SXS for setting up a simple NFS setup so that I can
access files on my other PC across the lan?

A real NFS for Idiots would be what I need.

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