Re: GRUB and ATA RAID
btw. Could you provide /etc/lilo.conf examples of soft-raid booting? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:46 AM Subject: Re: GRUB and ATA RAID On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:30:51 -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Can Lilo boot a software RAID Root? Yes, LILO can do that. GRUB now has limited support for raid but it sucks I don't believe any of them can. This is a HW RAID, provided by a HighPoint RocketRAID card. Sorry, but AFAIK the only hardware raid ide controllers are the ones made by 3ware. I have several controllers (Promise and HPT) and none are real hardware raid. And the drivers suck, ie: one disk fail, the server is out. No fault tolerance at all :) I've tried the ataraid driver and soft raid. With softraid, I'd been able to remove an HD while the server was on (don't try this at home, kids! You may damage you hardware! ;)) and the server continued working without a hicup. Try that with ataraid and you'll get an insta-panic :) Again, my suggestion is soft RAID1 + LILO. I have 3 servers using this setup without problems. Bye! Thanks. - Original Message - From: Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:56 AM Subject: Re: GRUB and ATA RAID On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:42:56 -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Anyone have any experience with the above? I am having problems where after installing Grub on a bootable ATA RAID array (this particular array is a mirrored pair) I get the Grub level 2 boot and then the Grub shell. If I type in: root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 everything boots fine WTFO? Are you using hardware RAID or Linux soft RAID??? Anyway, my suggestion would be: use software RAID + LILO. Forget about GRUB. It's RAID support sucks :) Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GRUB and ATA RAID
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Carpenter wrote: | btw. Could you provide /etc/lilo.conf examples of soft-raid booting? | | Thanks! [...] This is what I use on the system my mirror runs on: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# more /etc/lilo.conf prompt timeout=50 default=SGI-XFS boot=/dev/md0 map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/message linear image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-9SGI_XFS_1.2.0smp ~label=SGI-XFS ~initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-9SGI_XFS_1.2.0smp.img ~read-only ~root=/dev/md1 ~append = noapic acpi=off This is a RAID 1 mirror on a pair of 18Gb SCSI drives running RH 9. Each mountpoint is striped, except for / which is mirrored. You really need an /etc/raidtab as well as /etc/fstab to correspond with this so it all makes sense. Let me know if you're interested. - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 1:22pm up 18 days, 6:37, 12 users, load average: 2.08, 1.74, 1.54 - - While most peoples' opinions change, the conviction of their correctness never does. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/gxanejAu2RVHwF4RAu6TAJ0fQGaJGqrvyOdfoMih8145lvZkWACfZPRm zCzCSzY0+sTgmEJqrl3xRBI= =AKIV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GRUB and ATA RAID
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 15:16:02 -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote: btw. Could you provide /etc/lilo.conf examples of soft-raid booting? Thanks! I'm attaching a lilo.conf (that's for lilo 22.5.1) along with some info about disks layout. That's from the latest installed server (Intel SCB2) tunning Gentoo. Previously, the same server was running COL 3.1.1 Server with pretty much the same config. I had to change lilo.conf due to some changes in the way LILO handles RAID1 boot. If you need anything else, just ask :) Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina Some notes: hda-hdd unused (IDE interface: ServerWorks CSB5 IDE Controller (rev 92)) hde-hdh RAID1 (RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20267 (rev 02)) hde - RAID1 disk 0 (ST340016A) hdg - RAID1 disk 1 (ST340016A) # # /etc/lilo.conf # # target boot = /dev/md1 install = /boot/boot.b menu-title = Linux boot menu menu-scheme = wb:bw:wb:Wb # options lba32 prompt delay = 50 timeout=50 default=Linux read-only root = /dev/md2 vga= normal image = /boot/bzImage-2.4.20-xfs-r3 label = Linux-2.4.20 alias = Linux append = quiet vga= 773 ## # # Partition layout # Disk /dev/hde: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hde1 1 5 40131 12 Compaq diagnostics(Intel maintenance boot) /dev/hde2 668506047+ fd Linux raid autodetect (md0) /dev/hde3 *6975 56227+ fd Linux raid autodetect (md1) /dev/hde476 4865 384756755 Extended /dev/hde576 107257008+ fd Linux raid autodetect (md2) /dev/hde6 108 3755 29302528+ fd Linux raid autodetect (md3) /dev/hde7 3756 4192 3510171 fd Linux raid autodetect (md4) /dev/hde8 4193 4629 3510171 fd Linux raid autodetect (md5) /dev/hde9 4630 4661257008+ fd Linux raid autodetect (md6) /dev/hde10 4662 4865 1638598+ fd Linux raid autodetect (md7) ## # # Snipet from /etc/fstab # /dev/md1/boot ext3noauto,noatime 1 1 /dev/md2/ xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/md3/home xfs noatime,nosuid,nodev0 0 /dev/md4/usrxfs noatime,nodev 0 0 /dev/md5/varxfs noatime,nodev 0 0 /dev/md6/tmpxfs noatime,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/md7/optxfs noatime,nodev 0 0 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GRUB and ATA RAID
shameless plug Well, there's one on the SxS site: http://linux-sxs.org/storage/raid_setup.html /shameless plug Matthew Carpenter wrote: btw. Could you provide /etc/lilo.conf examples of soft-raid booting? Thanks! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GRUB and ATA RAID
I was already reading this howto when I got home and rebooted the system (having created the mirror between hda and hdc and going to bed last night). I wasn't paying attention until Tux appeared in the upper left corner of the screen and the kernel messages started flying by. Granted, it's not the bootscreen I'm used to seeing but it'll do... But it takes for freakin EVER to get there. I'd gander about 30 seconds after the Grub Loading message is pasted to the screen... But it takes this system so long to identify the drives it shouldn't surprise me. So much for competing for boot-times :( And I was hoping for a 1minute boot. heheh. It doesn't start loading the kernel in that amount of time :) Anyway, it looks like the BigBlock v1.0 machine will remain HWRaid... But this discussion has been deeply informational. I will be experimenting with SW RAID in the near future and perhaps BigBlock v1.1 or v1.2 will be using SWRAID instead of the HPT 1540 that v1.0 is using. This is the FCS (aka Pilot) system for a new line in Network Service Appliances my company is marketting. She's not done yet, but the deadline is a crunching :! On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:55:46 -0700 Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shameless plug Well, there's one on the SxS site: http://linux-sxs.org/storage/raid_setup.html /shameless plug Matthew Carpenter wrote: btw. Could you provide /etc/lilo.conf examples of soft-raid booting? Thanks! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GRUB and ATA RAID
Can Lilo boot a software RAID Root? I don't believe any of them can. This is a HW RAID, provided by a HighPoint RocketRAID card. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:56 AM Subject: Re: GRUB and ATA RAID On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:42:56 -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Anyone have any experience with the above? I am having problems where after installing Grub on a bootable ATA RAID array (this particular array is a mirrored pair) I get the Grub level 2 boot and then the Grub shell. If I type in: root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 everything boots fine WTFO? Are you using hardware RAID or Linux soft RAID??? Anyway, my suggestion would be: use software RAID + LILO. Forget about GRUB. It's RAID support sucks :) Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GRUB and ATA RAID
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:30:51 -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Can Lilo boot a software RAID Root? Yes, LILO can do that. GRUB now has limited support for raid but it sucks I don't believe any of them can. This is a HW RAID, provided by a HighPoint RocketRAID card. Sorry, but AFAIK the only hardware raid ide controllers are the ones made by 3ware. I have several controllers (Promise and HPT) and none are real hardware raid. And the drivers suck, ie: one disk fail, the server is out. No fault tolerance at all :) I've tried the ataraid driver and soft raid. With softraid, I'd been able to remove an HD while the server was on (don't try this at home, kids! You may damage you hardware! ;)) and the server continued working without a hicup. Try that with ataraid and you'll get an insta-panic :) Again, my suggestion is soft RAID1 + LILO. I have 3 servers using this setup without problems. Bye! Thanks. - Original Message - From: Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:56 AM Subject: Re: GRUB and ATA RAID On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:42:56 -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Anyone have any experience with the above? I am having problems where after installing Grub on a bootable ATA RAID array (this particular array is a mirrored pair) I get the Grub level 2 boot and then the Grub shell. If I type in: root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 everything boots fine WTFO? Are you using hardware RAID or Linux soft RAID??? Anyway, my suggestion would be: use software RAID + LILO. Forget about GRUB. It's RAID support sucks :) Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
GRUB and ATA RAID
Anyone have any experience with the above? I am having problems where after installing Grub on a bootable ATA RAID array (this particular array is a mirrored pair) I get the Grub level 2 boot and then the Grub shell. If I type in: root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 everything boots fine WTFO? -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid mirror
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 16:42:34 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that when i sent the last mail I was as usual confused and did not give enough information. We will be using the Asus A7N8X Delux board with built in SATA raid. So its hardware raid. Also does it require that they drives sit either both on the SATA side or both on the IDE side ? Both connect to the raid controller Does one on the ide sit on the normal primary and the second drive sit on the raid connection ? With the Sata raid I am guessing that both drives sit on the SATA bus. Do I need raid 0 or 1, it seems that I need 1, However it also seems to me that if you lose the primary its not so easy, unless you replace the drive with a duplicate that its that easy to recover ?? raid 0 is striping, raid 1 is mirror. Using both is best, raid 1 is slow, but raid 0 helps speed things up a bit. All you have to do to recover is break the mirror and reboot. That is, you go into the hardware raid utilities and turn off raid 1, telling the controller which disk to boot from. Hopefully, this is hot-swap stuff so you never have to do that, just yank the bad disk while it's running and stuff a new disk in its place. A couple hours later you should be fully recovered. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
raid mirror
I think that when i sent the last mail I was as usual confused and did not give enough information. We will be using the Asus A7N8X Delux board with built in SATA raid. So its hardware raid. Also does it require that they drives sit either both on the SATA side or both on the IDE side ? Does one on the ide sit on the normal primary and the second drive sit on the raid connection ? With the Sata raid I am guessing that both drives sit on the SATA bus. Do I need raid 0 or 1, it seems that I need 1, However it also seems to me that if you lose the primary its not so easy, unless you replace the drive with a duplicate that its that easy to recover ?? Help grin Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
mirror raid question
As I have never set up a mirror raid computer, yet! I need to know something more about it. I have been asked to setup 2 HD so as they can mirror raid what is on the primary bootable' HD to the raid. The OS will be Windows XP. I also assume that they will need raid 2. They seem to think that if the system goes down that they can immediately boot with the raid drive. I have not said anything but I do not think that this is feasible. YES/NO ? Would it not be better to setup 2 HD and somehow have the primary written to the secondary, it would only need the data mirrored. C;\ will bet XP only D:\ will be just a very few programs with photoshop the primary one. E:\ will be data only. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
I'm not sure I understand, but here goes. The different drive letters are quite normal for the Promise controller. Will it not install once the RAID is on? That's a kernel support issue, so if Mandrake doesn't support the Promise RAID setup then you'll have to make a kernel that does before you can turn it on. On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 13:59, Keith Antoine wrote: At 05:22 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 17:10, Keith Antoine wrote: At 03:53 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 15:40, Keith Antoine wrote: Well the holidays are over and all my family have gone, just the two of us again. I have been using windows for two reasons, one is that I had problems with mandrake 9.0 and went The problem arose i that when I went to re-install the drives were shown as hac,hdd and hde; no hda hdc as I used to have with cd drives on b and d. looked as if they are now hda and hdb ?? This is real wierd and I do not seem to be able to change the to what they should be., was thinkingbof taking the raid out of circuit for the install but! Is this hardware or software RAID? If its hardware, what kind of controller is it? Perhaps a BIOS problem? Its a promise chip in an Asus A7V333. So did you change anything in its BIOS? No, but I have delved into what is happening and its wierd. Lets take windows first with raid enabled: its XP pro. It boots and allocates primary master with C and D partitions. Then it allocated the raid drive as G. Then the two dvd drives, ones a burner as E F. Linux will not boot at all in this state but will when I disable raid on the MB. It comes up with the following drive configuration when raid is enabled: hdd = raid drive hde = primary master hdf = Samsung dvd reader hdg = Secondary master hdh = Dvd Burner hda, hdc do not appear at all ! Now it cannot be bios otherwise windows would exhibit the same problem but it does not, so what is there that causes linux to differ ??? Keith aka skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
At 09:39 AM 6/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: I'm not sure I understand, but here goes. The different drive letters are quite normal for the Promise controller. Will it not install once the RAID is on? That's a kernel support issue, so if Mandrake doesn't support the Promise RAID setup then you'll have to make a kernel that does before you can turn it on. Aaron Damd, Damd, Damd! I totally forgot about the kernel, how stupid can one get. But that is very much me at this stage, and I get so mad at myself, guess that I just have to put up with not being able to recall things that were easy for me only 12-24 months ago. Often worry whether I am an Alzheimers candidate. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
I hope not. That's a nasty business. The Promise RAID drivers are in the later kernels but I'm not sure how well they work. My understanding of the Promise is that most of the work is done by the drivers anyway, so there's not much advantage over the in-kernel software RAID support. I would tend to use that instead if the Promise gives you trouble. That doesn't help your Windows partition any though, so maybe not. On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 13:50, Keith Antoine wrote: At 09:39 AM 6/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: I'm not sure I understand, but here goes. The different drive letters are quite normal for the Promise controller. Will it not install once the RAID is on? That's a kernel support issue, so if Mandrake doesn't support the Promise RAID setup then you'll have to make a kernel that does before you can turn it on. Aaron Damd, Damd, Damd! I totally forgot about the kernel, how stupid can one get. But that is very much me at this stage, and I get so mad at myself, guess that I just have to put up with not being able to recall things that were easy for me only 12-24 months ago. Often worry whether I am an Alzheimers candidate. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
At 05:22 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 17:10, Keith Antoine wrote: At 03:53 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 15:40, Keith Antoine wrote: Well the holidays are over and all my family have gone, just the two of us again. I have been using windows for two reasons, one is that I had problems with mandrake 9.0 and went The problem arose i that when I went to re-install the drives were shown as hac,hdd and hde; no hda hdc as I used to have with cd drives on b and d. looked as if they are now hda and hdb ?? This is real wierd and I do not seem to be able to change the to what they should be., was thinkingbof taking the raid out of circuit for the install but! Is this hardware or software RAID? If its hardware, what kind of controller is it? Perhaps a BIOS problem? Its a promise chip in an Asus A7V333. So did you change anything in its BIOS? No, but I have delved into what is happening and its wierd. Lets take windows first with raid enabled: its XP pro. It boots and allocates primary master with C and D partitions. Then it allocated the raid drive as G. Then the two dvd drives, ones a burner as E F. Linux will not boot at all in this state but will when I disable raid on the MB. It comes up with the following drive configuration when raid is enabled: hdd = raid drive hde = primary master hdf = Samsung dvd reader hdg = Secondary master hdh = Dvd Burner hda, hdc do not appear at all ! Now it cannot be bios otherwise windows would exhibit the same problem but it does not, so what is there that causes linux to differ ??? Keith aka skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
On 01/04/03 13:59, Keith Antoine wrote: So did you change anything in its BIOS? No, but I have delved into what is happening and its wierd. Lets take windows first with raid enabled: its XP pro. It boots and allocates primary master with C and D partitions. Then it allocated the raid drive as G. Then the two dvd drives, ones a burner as E F. Linux will not boot at all in this state but will when I disable raid on the MB. It comes up with the following drive configuration when raid is enabled: hdd = raid drive hde = primary master hdf = Samsung dvd reader hdg = Secondary master hdh = Dvd Burner hda, hdc do not appear at all ! Now it cannot be bios otherwise windows would exhibit the same problem but it does not, so what is there that causes linux to differ ??? I've never done IDE RAID, so perhaps i'm way off base here. Are you sure its not supposed to work this way? Is the problem that you can't install Linux like this, or can't get a preinstalled version to boot? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 2:15pm up 20 days, 21:24, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
On 01/03/03 15:40, Keith Antoine wrote: Well the holidays are over and all my family have gone, just the two of us again. I have been using windows for two reasons, one is that I had problems with mandrake 9.0 and went to do a re-install: this was after I had added a raid drive for copying AV vhs tapes to the HD and putting them down as dvd's. The problem arose i that when I went to re-install the drives were shown as hac,hdd and hde; no hda hdc as I used to have with cd drives on b and d. looked as if they are now hda and hdb ?? This is real wierd and I do not seem to be able to change the to what they should be., was thinkingbof taking the raid out of circuit for the install but! Is this hardware or software RAID? If its hardware, what kind of controller is it? Perhaps a BIOS problem? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:50pm up 19 days, 22:59, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.11, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
On 01/03/03 17:10, Keith Antoine wrote: At 03:53 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 15:40, Keith Antoine wrote: Well the holidays are over and all my family have gone, just the two of us again. I have been using windows for two reasons, one is that I had problems with mandrake 9.0 and went The problem arose i that when I went to re-install the drives were shown as hac,hdd and hde; no hda hdc as I used to have with cd drives on b and d. looked as if they are now hda and hdb ?? This is real wierd and I do not seem to be able to change the to what they should be., was thinkingbof taking the raid out of circuit for the install but! Is this hardware or software RAID? If its hardware, what kind of controller is it? Perhaps a BIOS problem? Its a promise chip in an Asus A7V333. So did you change anything in its BIOS? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:20pm up 20 days, 29 min, 2 users, load average: 0.57, 0.38, 0.18 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
At 03:53 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 15:40, Keith Antoine wrote: Well the holidays are over and all my family have gone, just the two of us again. I have been using windows for two reasons, one is that I had problems with mandrake 9.0 and went to do a re-install: this was after I had added a raid drive for copying AV vhs tapes to the HD and putting them down as dvd's. The problem arose i that when I went to re-install the drives were shown as hac,hdd and hde; no hda hdc as I used to have with cd drives on b and d. looked as if they are now hda and hdb ?? This is real wierd and I do not seem to be able to change the to what they should be., was thinkingbof taking the raid out of circuit for the install but! Is this hardware or software RAID? If its hardware, what kind of controller is it? Perhaps a BIOS problem? Its a promise chip in an Asus A7V333. Keith aka Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
I'm really glad that this thread popped up when it did. I've been sitting on this old AMI 428 scsi raid controller for a while now and almost tossed it at one time during a wife inspired cleanup session... Anyway, I just popped the card into my desktop computer and... it great. Once I ran the BIOS setup for the card... I am now running a tape drive, cdrom and cdrw on it... no problems. Maybe later on I'll plug in my scanner and see if that'll work too... Great new life for old hardware... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 3:55pm up 1 day, 17:39, 3 users, load average: 1.21, 0.95, 0.59 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
Good news. At this point I've decided to leave my RAID card just for RAID. I have another SCSI card in the system with the DVD on it so I'll add the tape to it's external connector and then put the scanner on the end of the external chain. I'm really glad that this thread popped up when it did. I've been sitting on this old AMI 428 scsi raid controller for a while now and almost tossed it at one time during a wife inspired cleanup session... Anyway, I just popped the card into my desktop computer and... it great. Once I ran the BIOS setup for the card... I am now running a tape drive, cdrom and cdrw on it... no problems. Maybe later on I'll plug in my scanner and see if that'll work too... Great new life for old hardware... -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Tape on Raid Controller
I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. Thanks. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:20pm up 42 days, 10:34, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
Lonni, I never had the desire to look into this raid with tape idea... But I do know that it works on some controllers just fine. At work we've still got a couple of old... x brand servers running xenix, each with one ami raid controller, two hard drives and one tape attached. I've had them open only as far as replacing floppy drives and noted the single scsi controller. Also just trash picked one for parting out... Same setup. It apparently works. On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:23:02 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. Thanks. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:20pm up 42 days, 10:34, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 1:00am up 1 day, 2:44, 3 users, load average: 0.52, 0.30, 0.24 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
It took a CD drive without complaining?? I guess the tape drive might work then, but i'd just think that the RAID card would get snarfy about the really really slow IO. On 11/23/02 21:57, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I really don't like to do it and am trying to come up with a workaround now. I would have thought the 3210S wouldn't care - it will handle CD drives attached to it. I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 10:10pm up 42 days, 11:24, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.04, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
Yes, I had a SCSI CD/DVD on it for a while and Adaptec has an option to allow booting off them. I had it on channel B while the RAID drives were on channel A. It took a CD drive without complaining?? I guess the tape drive might work then, but i'd just think that the RAID card would get snarfy about the really really slow IO. On 11/23/02 21:57, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I really don't like to do it and am trying to come up with a workaround now. I would have thought the 3210S wouldn't care - it will handle CD drives attached to it. I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OThelp with Sun E450 RAID
Weirdness going on over here. I've got a brand new E450, we purchased 6 disks for it, bought the extra RAID controller. I've got the controller and disks in the thing. But only disks 1-4 are recognized. Disks 5 and 6 are on the second RAID controller and are not recognized. Sorta. From the PROM, if I type 'probe-scsi-all', I can see the extra RAID card and the 2 drives. I then run 'setenv disk-led-assoc 0 2' followed by 'reset' and then 'boot -r'. The system comes up, there are only 4 disks in /dev/rdsk, format sees only 4 disks. WTF? -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://www.linux-sxs.org I just sent the network admin an email about the email being down. Oh, wait, I have an email. Oh. . ., wait, I'm the network admin ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OThelp with Sun E450 RAID
Two questions... If we're talking hardware RAID, don't all the disks in the array usually have to be connected to the same RAID controller? Is the standard SCSI bus in the E450 a RAID controller? (And if so, why did you have to buy a second one?) At 09:40 AM 10/8/02 -0400, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: Weirdness going on over here. I've got a brand new E450, we purchased 6 disks for it, bought the extra RAID controller. I've got the controller and disks in the thing. But only disks 1-4 are recognized. Disks 5 and 6 are on the second RAID controller and are not recognized. Sorta. From the PROM, if I type 'probe-scsi-all', I can see the extra RAID card and the 2 drives. I then run 'setenv disk-led-assoc 0 2' followed by 'reset' and then 'boot -r'. The system comes up, there are only 4 disks in /dev/rdsk, format sees only 4 disks. WTF? -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://www.linux-sxs.org I just sent the network admin an email about the email being down. Oh, wait, I have an email. Oh. . ., wait, I'm the network admin Stuart Biggerstaff Linda Hall Library of Science Engineering Technology 5109 Cherry St. Kansas City, MO 64110 Phone: (816) 926-8748 (800) 662-1545 x748 FAX:(816) 926-8785 URL:www.lindahall.org ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hardare RAID (0+1) and Linux (Slackware 8.1).
OY! Thanks for refreshing my memory on the write-ups in Bedtime Reading... blushes and for sharing your experiences. I believe I'll be doing some reading this weekend. Myles On June 21, 2002 10:14 pm, Federico Voges wrote: AFAIK the only REAL hardware RAID for IDE are the 3ware controllers. I have one Soyo MoBo with an HPT370 (RAID 0/1/0+1) and an Intel MoBo with a Promise FastTrack 100. I'd sugest that you buy another cheap ATA100/133 controller (ie: CMD649 chipset) and make a RAID5 array with the disks with software RAID (there are instructions in Bedtime Reading - RAID). You'll have a 120GB array. COL 3.1.1 recognizes both controlles as standard IDE controllers. With RedHat 71./7.2 don't (at least with the Promise controller). I've reading about the BIOS RAID (HPT/Promise) support for Linux and it's pretty much useless (ei: it's not fault tolerant. If one disk fails, your server will crash). Right now, I have to servers running with soft raid (mirroring) without problems (both running COL 3.1.1, one of them using XFS). -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta linux-sxs.org Mirror: http://dgtech-solutions.com/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Hardare RAID (0+1) and Linux (Slackware 8.1).
I'm trying to set up a server to replace the system currently hosting my mirror of linux-sxs.org and have run into a problem that currently has me stumped. Here's a list of the hardware invloved: Case - Chieftech 26 full tower MoBo - Shuttle AK35GT2R w/ onboard HighPoint 370/372 RAID controler CPU - Athlon XP 1800+ RAM - 2 GB Samsung DDR PC2700 (4 x 512MB) HDD - 4 x Maxtor 40GB ATA 133 (Liquid) CDROM- LG 52x Floppy - Panasonic 1.44 MB Video - Nvidia TNT2 M64 32MB VRAM NIC - D-Link DFE-538TX/R 10/100 I can create a RAID 0+1 setup in the HighPoint BIOS if, and only if, I leave the drives jumpered as 'cable select'. If I try to jumper them manually it can only see the two slave drives - incorrectly identified as having 70+ GB capacity. Slackware has a bootdisk with the correct drivers for the HighPoint chipset which boots up fine and then asks for the 'root disk' (which is actually a set of 5 floppies labeled install.1, install.2 etc.), then I get to select the keyboard and login as root but after that, all I get is screenfulls of scrolling hexidecimal (?) numbers. Anybody seen this or have any suggestions? I'm all ears... TIA, -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta linux-sxs.org Mirror: http://dgtech-solutions.com/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Hardare RAID (0+1) and Linux (Slackware 8.1).
Hi, AFAIK the only REAL hardware RAID for IDE are the 3ware controllers. I have one Soyo MoBo with an HPT370 (RAID 0/1/0+1) and an Intel MoBo with a Promise FastTrack 100. I'd sugest that you buy another cheap ATA100/133 controller (ie: CMD649 chipset) and make a RAID5 array with the disks with software RAID (there are instructions in Bedtime Reading - RAID). You'll have a 120GB array. COL 3.1.1 recognizes both controlles as standard IDE controllers. With RedHat 71./7.2 don't (at least with the Promise controller). I've reading about the BIOS RAID (HPT/Promise) support for Linux and it's pretty much useless (ei: it's not fault tolerant. If one disk fails, your server will crash). Right now, I have to servers running with soft raid (mirroring) without problems (both running COL 3.1.1, one of them using XFS). On Sáb 22 Jun 2002 00:39, Myles Green wrote: I'm trying to set up a server to replace the system currently hosting my mirror of linux-sxs.org and have run into a problem that currently has me stumped. Here's a list of the hardware invloved: Case - Chieftech 26 full tower MoBo - Shuttle AK35GT2R w/ onboard HighPoint 370/372 RAID controler CPU - Athlon XP 1800+ RAM - 2 GB Samsung DDR PC2700 (4 x 512MB) HDD - 4 x Maxtor 40GB ATA 133 (Liquid) CDROM- LG 52x Floppy - Panasonic 1.44 MB Video - Nvidia TNT2 M64 32MB VRAM NIC - D-Link DFE-538TX/R 10/100 I can create a RAID 0+1 setup in the HighPoint BIOS if, and only if, I leave the drives jumpered as 'cable select'. If I try to jumper them manually it can only see the two slave drives - incorrectly identified as having 70+ GB capacity. Slackware has a bootdisk with the correct drivers for the HighPoint chipset which boots up fine and then asks for the 'root disk' (which is actually a set of 5 floppies labeled install.1, install.2 etc.), then I get to select the keyboard and login as root but after that, all I get is screenfulls of scrolling hexidecimal (?) numbers. Anybody seen this or have any suggestions? I'm all ears... TIA, ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Software RAID + XFS question
Federico Voges wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, How is lilo configured?? Can you post/send me your lilo.conf?? My /etc/raidtab looks pretty much like yours, except for the device IDs (I'm using IDE drives). Regarding the partitioning, I see the point in using multiple partitions when you have multiple disks. But in this particular case, I want to keep it simple. Do you see any particular advantage in using multiple partitions?? I'm using this machine as a test bed for a webhosting server (an Intel SR1200 - SCB2 ATA (Promise FastTrack100, dual PIII, etc). I'll be using quotas to keep users from filling my / partition, etc, etc. snip [root@wks1 SGI]# more /etc/lilo.conf prompt timeout=50 default=linux boot=/dev/sda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/message linear image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.9-13SGI_XFS_1.0.2enterprise label=linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.9-13SGI_XFS_1.0.2enterprise.img read-only root=/dev/sda2 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.9-13SGI_XFS_1.0.2smp label=linux-smp initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.9-13SGI_XFS_1.0.2smp.img read-only root=/dev/sda2 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.9-13SGI_XFS_1.0.2 label=linux-up initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.9-13SGI_XFS_1.0.2.img read-only root=/dev/sda2 Take note that I'm not booting from an md device on this one, but it's a mere substitution of mdX for sdX. HTH, -- Andrew Mathews --- andy.nmcourts.com Tuesday Jun 18 2002 08:25:00 MDT --- Alimony is like buying oats for a dead horse. -- Arthur Baer ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
