Re: win98 hell... (OT)
There is 98 and 98se, ME is also a version. This link may help you, http://www.listmaker.net/win98/ On Monday 27 August 2001 00:29, Jerry McBride wrote: I hate to ask this here... but I don't know of a better source of information I've got a clients win98 box that she wishes to place on a lan and share internet connections, with other users... Everyone else on the lan is setup perfectly. This one win98 box refuses to see anything outside of it's own box. That is, I can ping localhost and the host name and it works perfectly... ping into the rest of the lan and it times out... no connections. I've done EVERYTHING except change the version of OS. I really mean that too... I even ran a new ethernet cable... swapped her nic for known good nic, her nic worked in another box, the one swapped into her computer didn't... I even tried moving the connection on the switch box end... all manner of twiddle and tweak in the network setup, etc... ipconfig shows the nic setup as eth0, winicfg look like everything else I've ever ran it on... The led's on the nic indicate good connect at 100baset I've done this type of setup a 1000 times before, but this one machine is dead to the net. Here's the kicker, Swap out her harddrive for one of mine and within a few moments I'm browsing the inet and local samba shares like heaven... WTF? Rotten windows 98 install? Pop her harddrive back into the machine, backup her most important data, make a bunch of notes about where and what is in here install and reinstall windows using her copy of 98... after sitting though all this shit... SAME EXACT symptoms! Physically move another computer into this ones space... no problems. Now, this leads to my question Was there ever an edition of win98 that had a brain dead tcpip stack on the cd? I think I've got one! The fix was to illegally use a co-worker's copy of 98se and... bingo... it's doing what she wanted! While I'm here... what is the last version of 98 called and does anyone here have a copy they'd like to sell or make a copy of? -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Happy Birthday To Us All
I still got notime to read the kernel source, if not to understsnad it at all... :) It was 10 years ago today that Linus Torvalds first mentioned his new OS on comp.os.minux. However it wasn't until Sept 17 that _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
I read up the blackbox catalog and saw some BNC to UTP converter. I never saw those things in shops. Another solution is to buy a HUB with both one BNC and multiple UTP ports (Practical?). It's not a bad idea to convert everything to UTP though if budge is not restrained. I have a thin coaxial cable home network. My son just got a lap top for school and will be bringing it home from time to time and needs to hook it up to the home network. He will need to access the internet as well as download files, etc. The laptop has a twisted pair NIC. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
I would recommend either the Hub with BNC connector or wireless. You can do direct PC-PC networking using a crossover cable (1236 go to 3612) but that limits you and doesn't really solve the problem. The problem is not that your son's laptop doesn't have BNC, it's that your equipment is outliving it's worth. If you choose the cross-over solution, you have added nearly zero flexibility to your network. At least with a 10Base-2/T hub you'll be able to add both RJ45/BNC hosts to your network in the future. With a wireless solution, there is an added layer of complexity, but from everyone I've spoken to, it's worth it. Tim Wunder twunder@iwmaTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.com cc: Subject: Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network Previously, Andrew Mathews wrote: You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though. Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price. I know they make tranceiver cables that go BNC to RJ45, Do they make 'em the other way? I think I remember seeing them when I bought the tranceivers for a couple old RS6000's we have at work (Microchannel). Check out your local electronics shop, maybe even Radio Shack. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
David, I picked one of these babies up for $30 bucks at a used store this weekend. Now if I just knew how to set it up. 8^( Regards, Keith B. David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On August 25, 2001 07:41 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote: You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though. Too much in the way of $$$ for me. Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price. What about security? AFAIK wireless at the moment has been effectively shot full of holes. David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: win98 hell... (OT)
I often had this issue with Win9x, the fix for me was to remove everything from the network control panel, reboot, then add it all back. On Monday 27 August 2001 05:27 am, you wrote: On Monday 27 August 2001 01:29 am, Jerry McBride wrote: I hate to ask this here... but I don't know of a better source of information I've got a clients win98 box that she wishes to place on a lan and share internet connections, with other users... Everyone else on the lan is setup perfectly. This one win98 box refuses to see anything outside of it's own box. That is, I can ping localhost and the host name and it works perfectly... ping into the rest of the lan and it times out... no connections. I've done EVERYTHING except change the version of OS. I really mean that too... I even ran a new ethernet cable... swapped her nic for known good nic, her nic worked in another box, the one swapped into her computer didn't... I even tried moving the connection on the switch box end... all manner of twiddle and tweak in the network setup, etc... ipconfig shows the nic setup as eth0, winicfg look like everything else I've ever ran it on... The led's on the nic indicate good connect at 100baset I've done this type of setup a 1000 times before, but this one machine is dead to the net. Here's the kicker, Swap out her harddrive for one of mine and within a few moments I'm browsing the inet and local samba shares like heaven... WTF? Rotten windows 98 install? Pop her harddrive back into the machine, backup her most important data, make a bunch of notes about where and what is in here install and reinstall windows using her copy of 98... after sitting though all this shit... SAME EXACT symptoms! Physically move another computer into this ones space... no problems. Now, this leads to my question Was there ever an edition of win98 that had a brain dead tcpip stack on the cd? I think I've got one! The fix was to illegally use a co-worker's copy of 98se and... bingo... it's doing what she wanted! While I'm here... what is the last version of 98 called and does anyone here have a copy they'd like to sell or make a copy of? The last version was Win98ME and I have a copy of it but I wouldn't sell it to my worst enemy. And I wouldn't use it either. I replaced it with SE after about 3 months use. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Linux on COMPAQ PRESARIO 7360...
I just installed linux on a COMPAQ PRESARIO 7360... Linux installs, all the onboard stuff (vid,par,ide,serial,usb,sound) works, but it's not a good box to use for your linux projects. The BIOS is totally braindead, does not setup with discreet irqs. For instance, it insists on video and sound to use the SAME irq. it works... but when you drag some text while playing sounds... you get the dreaded motor-boat sound effect. It'll make a great work box, but not for most people... Conclusion... trash the motherboard and install something else. :') One other thing... this is a amd k6-2 compat board, which Compaq claims a top speed of 500mhz... they're wrong, it does 550 no problems and works very well with pc100 simms... ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 11:40am up 12:14, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.06, 0.01 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: win98 hell... (OT)
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:37:40 -0700 Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often had this issue with Win9x, the fix for me was to remove everything from the network control panel, reboot, then add it all back. Hi Aaron, Thanks for the tip, but that was one of the first remedies I tried. I'm going to try and swap a copy of win98se for her cd... just so I can see what's really going on with it when I have the free time to really play around. As an aside... I just finished installing win2kpro this morning what a ho-hum deal that was... :') ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hard Drive Mania
Are you talking about the partitions, or the physical drives? If the drive recognition in Linux isn't matching reality, then you've got a BIOS issue. If its a partition issue, then its a Linux and/or BIOS problem. Either way, first stop should be in the BIOS to see how the drives are recognized. --- burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well here's a fine kettle of fish, Ollie. I have installed Suse 7.2 Pro over the weekend and have had to reshuffle harddrives a couple of times to accomodate both Windows and the appealing but largish Suse install... this is (still) a dual boot system. Disk 3 was reformatted to EXT2 and not all are being picked up by the system (I don't think 2 3 are). I can edit the fstab file, but how do I know which drive is actually now which device, when the devices listed are not updating, not all of them are being listed and the fstab listing no longer matches the current reality? Here are the facts: System Details: - ABit BP6 Mainboard - Dual Celeron CPUs - 512 MB SDRAM - Creative Nvidia TNT2 Ultra graphics card - Soundblaster Live Value sound card - Disk 1, Master on primary EIDE, 9Gb Fat32 Primary for Windows, 10Gb for Linux with default Suse install partions (boot, swap /) - CDROM, Acer 50x ATAPI = slave on primary EIDE - Disk 2, Master on secondary EIDE, 13.2Gb EXT2 for Linux storage - Disk 3, Slave on secondary EIDE, 4Gb fat32 Primary for Windows storage - Disk 4, Master on first ATA66 UDMA channel, 13Gb fat32 split into approximately two logical 6Gb drives/partitions. Following is result of df: burns@burns:~ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda7 10G 2.9G 7.0G 29% / /dev/hda5 23M 2.5M 19M 12% /boot shmfs 942M 0 941M 0% /dev/shm Following is fstab file: root@burns:/ cat etc/fstab /dev/hda7 / ext2defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 /boot ext2defaults 1 2 /dev/cdrom /media/cdromautoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts defaults 0 0 /dev/fd0/media/floppy autonoauto,user,sync 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /windows/C vfatnoauto,user 0 0 /dev/hdd1 /windows/D vfatnoauto,user 0 0 /dev/hdf1 /windows/E vfatnoauto,user 0 0 /dev/hdf5 /windows/F vfatnoauto,user 0 0 /dev/hda6 swapswappri=42 0 0 = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
David Aikema wrote: On August 25, 2001 07:41 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote: You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though. Too much in the way of $$$ for me. Understandable. It's a fixed asset if you have a home with cabling already run. Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price. What about security? AFAIK wireless at the moment has been effectively shot full of holes. Data encryption over wireless has several exploits. A couple are on freshmeat. However security over a hard wired connection is just as vulnerable. There are bunches of packet sniffers available that do the same thing. The difference is in access to the data packets. Wireless would have to be captured between you and the ISP or second station. Unless you're running an omnidirectional antenna, you're broadcasting a rather small beam. If somebody's sniffing, you will almost be able to see them physically. If somebody's packet sniffing on a network, they could be anywhere your network runs. If you're on a WAN, they don't even have to be in the same state to sniff you. So essentially it's a toss up security wise. David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Andrew Mathews 12:50pm up 19:18, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.05, 1.07 How comes it to pass, then, that we appear such cowards in reasoning, and are so afraid to stand the test of ridicule? -- A. Cooper ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Need Help Compiling Sendmail 8.11.6?
Trying to compile sendmail 8.11.6 from source, I get: In file included from smdb.c:20: ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:23: parse error before `NDBM' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:69: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:86: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:102: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:120: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:142: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:158: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:173: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:189: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:192: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:345: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:345: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:346: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:347: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:371: parse error before `*' ../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:372: parse error before `*' smdb.c:33: parse error before `*' smdb.c: In function `smdb_malloc_database': smdb.c:36: `SMDB_DATABASE' undeclared (first use in this function) smdb.c:36: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once smdb.c:36: for each function it appears in.) smdb.c:36: `db' undeclared (first use in this function) smdb.c:38: parse error before `)' smdb.c: At top level: smdb.c:59: parse error before `SMDB_DATABASE' smdb.c:59: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:60: parse error before `{' smdb.c:201: parse error before `SMDB_DATABASE' smdb.c:201: conflicting types for `database' smdb.c:59: previous declaration of `database' smdb.c:201: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:209: parse error before `{' smdb.c:213: parse error before `if' smdb.c:228: parse error before `' smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:228: parse error before `}' smdb.c:228: conflicting declarations of `__result' smdb.c:228: `__result' previously declared here smdb.c:228: `__s2' undeclared here (not in a function) smdb.c:228: initializer element is not constant smdb.c:228: parse error before `if' smdb.c:228: conflicting declarations of `__result' smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:228: parse error before `}' smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:228: parse error before `}' smdb.c:228: redefinition of `__result' smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:228: `__s1' undeclared here (not in a function) smdb.c:228: initializer element is not constant smdb.c:228: parse error before `if' smdb.c:228: conflicting declarations of `__result' smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:228: parse error before `}' smdb.c:229: parse error before `' smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:229: parse error before `}' smdb.c:229: redefinition of `__result' smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:229: `__s2' undeclared here (not in a function) smdb.c:229: initializer element is not constant smdb.c:229: parse error before `if' smdb.c:229: conflicting declarations of `__result' smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:229: parse error before `}' smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:229: parse error before `}' smdb.c:229: redefinition of `__result' smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:229: `__s1' undeclared here (not in a function) smdb.c:229: initializer element is not constant smdb.c:229: parse error before `if' smdb.c:229: conflicting declarations of `__result' smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:229: parse error before `}' smdb.c:245: parse error before `' smdb.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:245: parse error before `}' smdb.c:245: redefinition of `__result' smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:245: `__s2' undeclared here (not in a function) smdb.c:245: initializer element is not constant smdb.c:245: parse error before `if' smdb.c:245: conflicting declarations of `__result' smdb.c:245: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:245: parse error before `}' smdb.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class smdb.c:245: parse error before `}' smdb.c:245: redefinition of `__result' smdb.c:245: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:245: `__s1' undeclared here (not in a function) smdb.c:245: initializer element is not constant smdb.c:245: parse error before `if' smdb.c:245: conflicting declarations of `__result' smdb.c:245: `__result' previously defined here smdb.c:245: warning:
Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 01:05:18PM -0600, Andrew Mathews wrote: David Aikema wrote: On August 25, 2001 07:41 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote: You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though. Too much in the way of $$$ for me. Understandable. It's a fixed asset if you have a home with cabling already run. The hub with BNC works a treat for this type of problem. They're cheap, and reliable (as reliable as coax networks can be with their tendency to have flakey connections). A Compex 10BaseT 8-port hub with BNC connector cost about $35.00 three years ago (Compex part number TP1008C). Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ If the Democrats had wanted Gore to be president, they should have voted for impeachment. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: jblinux experiences
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:37:21 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the pointer... looks like it might be interesting. Do you happen to know if there is an FTP install? You can ftp all the packages to a directory and install from that directory, but there is no fetch the packages on the fly like there is with gentoo. The only other flaw I forgot to mention: jbl doesn't provide the sr_mod.o module, so you will need to customize the kernel to get support for CD-RW. The installer found my sound card (esssolo1) and NIC (tulip) without a hitch, and DHCP is selectable. I have cups working for my printer as well. USB support is there, but I can't check it out with my equipment; nor do I know how the system will fare with SCSI disk and/or PMCIA for laptops. The only user group is the forum on the jbl site, and the traffic is pretty light there, but I'm sure the heavy weights on this list can answer most questions. Collins On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:23:27 +0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI I think this is the greatest distro ever!!! Except for a very few things omitted from the Desktop+Development install option, the system has everything I could possibly want and more (both GNOME and KDE are onboard). Here are some of the good and bad (nothing disastrous). 1) For those of us used to the Sysvinit form of init, the jbl approach takes some getting used to. Instead of the directories with Sxxx and Kxxx links for each run level, there is a single unified script for each run level. You turn on or off scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d by adding/removing execute permission. 2) I like the jbl package stuff, but there is no way to do a pretend install. The provided rpm2jbl program works. There is also a patched version of check install that works quite well and converts the tarballs to a jbl package on the fly. 3) I had to install a few packages to get the prereqs for xfce, sylpheed, and opera. Some were on the cdrom, some were tarballs, all installed without a hitch, as did the afformentioned products. 4) I can't think of much else right now; jbl is darn near perfect for my needs. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
KDE2.2 packages from Caldera
Since I didn't feel like an install from sources, I downloaded KDE2.2 from the Caldera 3.1 site, converted them to jbl packages, and installed. The reason I picked Caldera was that I knew the packages have a compatible glibc and they would install to /opt and leave my KDE 2.1.1 stuff in /usr untouched. I got the base and libs packages. Do I need more as a minimum. When I tried bringing up KDE2 (using KDEDIR=/opt/kde2 and a path statement that put /opt/kde2/bin ahead of everything else, I was able to get part way before KDE2 barfed - unable to dload the dcop... stuff and some other things. All the directory stuff in the error messages looked ok. What else amy I missing? --- Collins Richey Denver Area jblinux 2.2 xfce sylpheed opera ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
jblinux CD-RW
Well, I stand corrected. Jbl did include sr_mod, but they built it into the kernel. So, are you ready for this, you need to 'append hda=ide-scsi' to make it work! We had that long discussion about this no longer being necessary on 2.4.x kernels, and I certainly don't need it on my gentoo system, but here it is again! No, hda is not a typo - my system is setup weird. -- Collins Richey Denver Area jblinux 2.2 xfce sylpheed opera ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Worm: How you doin'?
Alan Jackson wrote: snip Yeah, I just got a 6 Mbyte file in my e-mail from some idiot with an infected machine. I'm getting really testy about this - by this time people need to get their friggin' machines cleaned up. -- snip Which poses a totally different question. Can Sendmail be configured to reject mail based upon the mailer type? There's a few that a canned reply of This domain no longer accepts mail messages from Outlook or Outlook Express due to unacceptable security. Please use a secure mailer program. -- Andrew Mathews 9:05pm up 3:33, 2 users, load average: 1.09, 1.06, 1.02 She liked him; he was a man of many qualities, even if most of them were bad. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: jblinux experiences
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:13:53 +0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:37:21 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the pointer... looks like it might be interesting. Do you happen to know if there is an FTP install? You can ftp all the packages to a directory and install from that OK, that works for me =) thanks again. directory, but there is no fetch the packages on the fly like there is with gentoo. The only other flaw I forgot to mention: jbl doesn't provide the sr_mod.o module, so you will need to customize the kernel to get support for CD-RW. This is OK too, one of the first things I do on my systems is build a new kernel. The installer found my sound card (esssolo1) and NIC (tulip) without a hitch, and DHCP is selectable. I have cups working for my printer as well. USB support is there, but I've been unable to get past printing the test page with slackware 8 / apsfilter and I've just installed cups / qtcups and and am now trying to get everything setup and working. Having it all setup and ready to configure would be nice though g. I can't check it out with my equipment; nor do I know how the system will fare with SCSI disk and/or PMCIA for laptops. I use neither of these as well but I do have a USB mouse. I don't expect any problems... Thanks for your review =) Myles The only user group is the forum on the jbl site, and the traffic is pretty light there, but I'm sure the heavy weights on this list can answer most questions. Collins On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:23:27 +0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI I think this is the greatest distro ever!!! Except for a very few things omitted from the Desktop+Development install option, the system has everything I could possibly want and more (both GNOME and KDE are onboard). Here are some of the good and bad (nothing disastrous). 1) For those of us used to the Sysvinit form of init, the jbl approach takes some getting used to. Instead of the directories with Sxxx and Kxxx links for each run level, there is a single unified script for each run level. You turn on or off scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d by adding/removing execute permission. 2) I like the jbl package stuff, but there is no way to do a pretend install. The provided rpm2jbl program works. There is also a patched version of check install that works quite well and converts the tarballs to a jbl package on the fly. 3) I had to install a few packages to get the prereqs for xfce, sylpheed, and opera. Some were on the cdrom, some were tarballs, all installed without a hitch, as did the afformentioned products. 4) I can't think of much else right now; jbl is darn near perfect for my needs. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Worm: How you doin'?
Which poses a totally different question. Can Sendmail be configured to reject mail based upon the mailer type? There's a few that a canned reply of This domain no longer accepts mail messages from Outlook or Outlook Express due to unacceptable security. Please use a secure mailer program. Couldn't procmail be configured to do this? Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Worm: How you doin'?
had to look thru my bookmark mess, use ruleset, look at the check_x_mailer rule http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/chk89-opt.html On Monday 27 August 2001 22:13, Andrew Mathews wrote: Alan Jackson wrote: snip Yeah, I just got a 6 Mbyte file in my e-mail from some idiot with an infected machine. I'm getting really testy about this - by this time people need to get their friggin' machines cleaned up. -- snip Which poses a totally different question. Can Sendmail be configured to reject mail based upon the mailer type? There's a few that a canned reply of This domain no longer accepts mail messages from Outlook or Outlook Express due to unacceptable security. Please use a secure mailer program. -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users