Re: win98 hell... (OT)

2001-08-27 Thread Ronnie Gauthier


There is 98 and 98se, ME is also a version. 

This link may help you,
http://www.listmaker.net/win98/


On Monday 27 August 2001 00:29, Jerry McBride wrote:
 I hate to ask this here... but I don't know of a better source of
 information

 I've got a clients win98 box that she wishes to place on a lan and share
 internet
 connections, with other users...

 Everyone else on the lan is setup perfectly. This one win98 box refuses to
 see anything outside of it's own box. That is, I can ping localhost and the
 host name and it
 works perfectly... ping into the rest of the lan and it times out... no
 connections. I've
 done EVERYTHING except change the version of OS. I really mean that too...
 I even
 ran a new ethernet cable... swapped her nic for known good nic, her nic
 worked in
 another box, the one swapped into her computer didn't... I even tried
 moving the
 connection on the switch box end... all manner of twiddle and tweak in the
 network
 setup, etc... ipconfig shows the nic setup as eth0, winicfg look like
 everything else
 I've ever ran it on... The led's on the nic indicate good connect at
 100baset

 I've done this type of setup a 1000 times before, but this one machine is
 dead to the
 net.

 Here's the kicker, Swap out her harddrive for one of mine and within a
 few moments I'm browsing the inet and local samba shares like heaven...
 WTF?

 Rotten windows 98 install?

 Pop her harddrive back into the machine, backup her most important data,
 make a

 bunch of notes about where and what is in here install and reinstall
 windows using
 her copy of 98... after sitting though all this shit... SAME EXACT
 symptoms! Physically
 move another computer into this ones space... no problems.

 Now, this leads to my question Was there ever an edition of win98 that
 had a brain
 dead tcpip stack on the cd? I think I've got one!

 The fix was to illegally use a co-worker's copy of 98se and... bingo...
 it's doing what
 she wanted!

 While I'm here... what is the last version of 98 called and does anyone
 here have a
 copy they'd like to sell or make a copy of?

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Re: Happy Birthday To Us All

2001-08-27 Thread Chang

I still got notime to read the kernel source,
if not to understsnad it at all... :)

 It was 10 years ago today that Linus Torvalds first mentioned his new OS
 on comp.os.minux. However it wasn't until Sept 17 that 


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Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network

2001-08-27 Thread Chang

I read up the blackbox catalog and saw some
BNC to UTP converter. I never saw those things in shops.
Another solution is to buy a HUB with both one BNC and multiple 
UTP ports (Practical?). It's not a bad idea to convert
everything to UTP though if budge is not restrained.

 I have a thin coaxial cable home network. My son just got a lap
 top for school and will be bringing it home from time to time
 and needs to hook it up to the home network.  He will need to
 access the internet as well as download files, etc.
 The laptop has a twisted pair NIC.


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Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network

2001-08-27 Thread Matt . Carpenter


I would recommend either the Hub with BNC connector or wireless.  You can
do direct PC-PC networking using a crossover cable (1236 go to 3612) but
that limits you and doesn't really solve the problem.  The problem is not
that your son's laptop doesn't have BNC, it's that your equipment is
outliving it's worth.  If you choose the cross-over solution, you have
added nearly zero flexibility to your network.  At least with a 10Base-2/T
hub you'll be able to add both RJ45/BNC hosts to your network in the
future.  With a wireless solution, there is an added layer of complexity,
but from everyone I've spoken to, it's worth it.


   
 
Tim Wunder 
 
twunder@iwmaTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
il.com  cc:   
 
 Subject: Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to 
a home network
   
 


Previously, Andrew Mathews wrote:

 You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your
 existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you
 to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable
 immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though.
 Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I
 know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price.

I know they make tranceiver cables that go BNC to RJ45, Do they make 'em
the
other way? I think I remember seeing them when I bought the tranceivers for
a
couple old RS6000's we have at work (Microchannel).  Check out your local
electronics shop, maybe even Radio Shack.


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RE: Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network

2001-08-27 Thread kbb0927

David,

I picked one of these babies up for $30 bucks at a used store this
weekend. Now if I just knew how to set it up.   8^(

Regards,

Keith B.

David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On August 25, 2001 07:41 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote:

 You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your
 existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you
 to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable
 immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though.

Too much in the way of $$$ for me.

 Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I
 know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price.

What about security?  AFAIK wireless at the moment has been effectively shot 
full of holes.

David Aikema
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Re: win98 hell... (OT)

2001-08-27 Thread Aaron Grewell

I often had this issue with Win9x, the fix for me was to remove everything 
from the network control panel, reboot, then add it all back.

On Monday 27 August 2001 05:27 am, you wrote:
 On Monday 27 August 2001 01:29 am, Jerry McBride wrote:
  I hate to ask this here... but I don't know of a better source of
  information
 
  I've got a clients win98 box that she wishes to place on a lan and share
  internet
  connections, with other users...
 
  Everyone else on the lan is setup perfectly. This one win98 box refuses
  to see anything outside of it's own box. That is, I can ping localhost
  and the host name and it
  works perfectly... ping into the rest of the lan and it times out... no
  connections. I've
  done EVERYTHING except change the version of OS. I really mean that
  too... I even
  ran a new ethernet cable... swapped her nic for known good nic, her nic
  worked in
  another box, the one swapped into her computer didn't... I even tried
  moving the
  connection on the switch box end... all manner of twiddle and tweak in
  the network
  setup, etc... ipconfig shows the nic setup as eth0, winicfg look like
  everything else
  I've ever ran it on... The led's on the nic indicate good connect at
  100baset
 
  I've done this type of setup a 1000 times before, but this one machine is
  dead to the
  net.
 
  Here's the kicker, Swap out her harddrive for one of mine and within a
  few moments I'm browsing the inet and local samba shares like heaven...
  WTF?
 
  Rotten windows 98 install?
 
  Pop her harddrive back into the machine, backup her most important data,
  make a
 
  bunch of notes about where and what is in here install and reinstall
  windows using
  her copy of 98... after sitting though all this shit... SAME EXACT
  symptoms! Physically
  move another computer into this ones space... no problems.
 
  Now, this leads to my question Was there ever an edition of win98
  that had a brain
  dead tcpip stack on the cd? I think I've got one!
 
  The fix was to illegally use a co-worker's copy of 98se and... bingo...
  it's doing what
  she wanted!
 
  While I'm here... what is the last version of 98 called and does anyone
  here have a
  copy they'd like to sell or make a copy of?

 The last version was Win98ME   and I have a copy of it but I wouldn't sell
 it to my worst enemy.   And I wouldn't use it either.  I replaced it with
 SE after about 3 months use.
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Linux on COMPAQ PRESARIO 7360...

2001-08-27 Thread Jerry McBride


I just installed linux on a COMPAQ PRESARIO 7360...

Linux installs, all the onboard stuff (vid,par,ide,serial,usb,sound) works, but
it's not a
good box to use for your linux projects.

The BIOS is totally braindead, does not setup with discreet irqs. For instance,
it
insists on video and sound to use the SAME irq. it works... but when you drag
some
text while playing sounds... you get the dreaded motor-boat sound effect.

It'll make a great work box, but not for most people...

Conclusion... trash the motherboard and install something else. :')

One other thing... this is a amd k6-2 compat board, which Compaq claims a top
speed
of 500mhz... they're wrong, it does 550 no problems and works very well with
pc100
simms...


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Re: win98 hell... (OT)

2001-08-27 Thread Jerry McBride

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:37:40 -0700 Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I often had this issue with Win9x, the fix for me was to remove everything 
 from the network control panel, reboot, then add it all back.
 

Hi Aaron,

Thanks for the tip, but that was one of the first remedies I tried. I'm going
to try and
swap a copy of win98se for her cd... just so I can see what's really going on
with it
when I have the free time to really play around.

As an aside... I just finished installing win2kpro this morning what a
ho-hum deal
that was... :') 
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Re: Hard Drive Mania

2001-08-27 Thread Net Llama

Are you talking about the partitions, or the physical drives?  If the
drive recognition in Linux isn't matching reality, then you've got a
BIOS issue.  If its a partition issue, then its a Linux and/or BIOS
problem.  Either way, first stop should be in the BIOS to see how the
drives are recognized.

--- burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well here's a fine kettle of fish, Ollie.
 
 I have installed Suse 7.2 Pro over the weekend and have had to
 reshuffle 
 harddrives a couple of times to accomodate both Windows and the
 appealing but 
 largish Suse install... this is (still) a dual boot system.
 
 Disk 3 was reformatted to EXT2 and not all are being picked up by the
 system 
 (I don't think 2  3 are). I can edit the fstab file, but how do I
 know which 
 drive is actually now which device, when the devices listed are not
 updating, 
 not all of them are being listed and the fstab listing no longer
 matches the 
 current reality?
 
 Here are the facts:
 
 System Details:
 - ABit BP6 Mainboard
 - Dual Celeron CPUs
 - 512 MB SDRAM
 - Creative Nvidia TNT2 Ultra graphics card
 - Soundblaster Live Value sound card
 - Disk 1, Master on primary EIDE, 9Gb Fat32 Primary for Windows, 10Gb
 for 
 Linux with default Suse install partions (boot, swap  /)
 - CDROM, Acer 50x ATAPI = slave on primary EIDE
 - Disk 2, Master on secondary EIDE, 13.2Gb EXT2 for Linux storage
 - Disk 3, Slave on secondary EIDE, 4Gb fat32 Primary for Windows
 storage
 - Disk 4, Master on first ATA66 UDMA channel, 13Gb fat32 split into 
 approximately two logical 6Gb drives/partitions.
 
 Following is result of df:
  burns@burns:~  df -h
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hda7  10G  2.9G  7.0G  29% /
 /dev/hda5  23M  2.5M   19M  12% /boot
 shmfs 942M 0  941M   0% /dev/shm
 
 Following is fstab file:
 root@burns:/  cat etc/fstab
 /dev/hda7   /   ext2defaults 1 1
 /dev/hda5   /boot   ext2defaults 1 2
 /dev/cdrom  /media/cdromautoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
 devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  defaults 0 0
 /dev/fd0/media/floppy   autonoauto,user,sync 0 0
 proc/proc   procdefaults 0 0
 /dev/hda1   /windows/C  vfatnoauto,user 0 0
 /dev/hdd1   /windows/D  vfatnoauto,user 0 0
 /dev/hdf1   /windows/E  vfatnoauto,user 0 0
 /dev/hdf5   /windows/F  vfatnoauto,user 0 0
 /dev/hda6   swapswappri=42 0 0

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Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network

2001-08-27 Thread Andrew Mathews

David Aikema wrote:
 
 On August 25, 2001 07:41 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote:
 
  You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your
  existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you
  to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable
  immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though.
 
 Too much in the way of $$$ for me.

Understandable. It's a fixed asset if you have a home with cabling
already run. 
 
  Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I
  know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price.
 
 What about security?  AFAIK wireless at the moment has been effectively shot
 full of holes.

Data encryption over wireless has several exploits. A couple are on
freshmeat. However security over a hard wired connection is just as
vulnerable. There are bunches of packet sniffers available that do the
same thing. The difference is in access to the data packets. Wireless
would have to be captured between you and the ISP or second station.
Unless you're running an omnidirectional antenna, you're broadcasting a
rather small beam. If somebody's sniffing, you will almost be able to
see them physically. If somebody's packet sniffing on a network, they
could be anywhere your network runs. If you're on a WAN, they don't even
have to be in the same state to sniff you. So essentially it's a toss up
security wise.
 
 David Aikema
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Need Help Compiling Sendmail 8.11.6?

2001-08-27 Thread Ron Giesman

Trying to compile sendmail 8.11.6 from source, I get:
In file included from smdb.c:20:
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:23: parse error before `NDBM'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:69: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:86: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:102: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:120: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:142: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:158: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:173: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:189: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:192: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:345: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:345: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:346: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:347: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:371: parse error before `*'
../../include/libsmdb/smdb.h:372: parse error before `*'
smdb.c:33: parse error before `*'
smdb.c: In function `smdb_malloc_database':
smdb.c:36: `SMDB_DATABASE' undeclared (first use in this function)
smdb.c:36: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
smdb.c:36: for each function it appears in.)
smdb.c:36: `db' undeclared (first use in this function)
smdb.c:38: parse error before `)'
smdb.c: At top level:
smdb.c:59: parse error before `SMDB_DATABASE'
smdb.c:59: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:60: parse error before `{'
smdb.c:201: parse error before `SMDB_DATABASE'
smdb.c:201: conflicting types for `database'
smdb.c:59: previous declaration of `database'
smdb.c:201: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:209: parse error before `{'
smdb.c:213: parse error before `if'
smdb.c:228: parse error before `'
smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:228: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:228: conflicting declarations of `__result'
smdb.c:228: `__result' previously declared here
smdb.c:228: `__s2' undeclared here (not in a function)
smdb.c:228: initializer element is not constant
smdb.c:228: parse error before `if'
smdb.c:228: conflicting declarations of `__result'
smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:228: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:228: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:228: redefinition of `__result'
smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:228: `__s1' undeclared here (not in a function)
smdb.c:228: initializer element is not constant
smdb.c:228: parse error before `if'
smdb.c:228: conflicting declarations of `__result'
smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:228: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:228: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:229: parse error before `'
smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:229: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:229: redefinition of `__result'
smdb.c:228: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:229: `__s2' undeclared here (not in a function)
smdb.c:229: initializer element is not constant
smdb.c:229: parse error before `if'
smdb.c:229: conflicting declarations of `__result'
smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:229: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:229: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:229: redefinition of `__result'
smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:229: `__s1' undeclared here (not in a function)
smdb.c:229: initializer element is not constant
smdb.c:229: parse error before `if'
smdb.c:229: conflicting declarations of `__result'
smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:229: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:229: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:245: parse error before `'
smdb.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:245: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:245: redefinition of `__result'
smdb.c:229: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:245: `__s2' undeclared here (not in a function)
smdb.c:245: initializer element is not constant
smdb.c:245: parse error before `if'
smdb.c:245: conflicting declarations of `__result'
smdb.c:245: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:245: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
smdb.c:245: parse error before `}'
smdb.c:245: redefinition of `__result'
smdb.c:245: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:245: `__s1' undeclared here (not in a function)
smdb.c:245: initializer element is not constant
smdb.c:245: parse error before `if'
smdb.c:245: conflicting declarations of `__result'
smdb.c:245: `__result' previously defined here
smdb.c:245: warning: 

Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network

2001-08-27 Thread Bill Campbell

On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 01:05:18PM -0600, Andrew Mathews wrote:
David Aikema wrote:
 
 On August 25, 2001 07:41 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote:
 
  You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your
  existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you
  to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable
  immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though.
 
 Too much in the way of $$$ for me.

Understandable. It's a fixed asset if you have a home with cabling
already run. 

The hub with BNC works a treat for this type of problem.  They're cheap,
and reliable (as reliable as coax networks can be with their tendency to
have flakey connections).  A Compex 10BaseT 8-port hub with BNC connector
cost about $35.00 three years ago (Compex part number TP1008C).

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Re: jblinux experiences

2001-08-27 Thread Collins Richey

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:37:21 -0600 Myles Green
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the pointer... looks like it might be interesting. Do you
 happen to know if there is an FTP install? 

You can ftp all the packages to a directory and install from that
directory, but there is no fetch the packages on the fly like there is
with gentoo.

The only other flaw I forgot to mention:  jbl doesn't provide the
sr_mod.o module, so you will need to customize the kernel to get
support for CD-RW.

The installer found my sound card (esssolo1) and NIC (tulip) without a
hitch, and DHCP is selectable.

I have cups working for my printer as well.  USB support is there, but
I can't check it out with my equipment; nor do I know how the system
will fare with SCSI disk and/or PMCIA for laptops.

The only user group is the forum on the jbl site, and the traffic is
pretty light there, but I'm sure the heavy weights on this list can
answer most questions.

Collins

 
 On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:23:27 +0700
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  FYI
  
  I think this is the greatest distro ever!!!
  
  Except for a very few things omitted from the Desktop+Development
  install option, the system has everything I could possibly want
 and
  more (both GNOME and KDE are onboard).
  
  Here are some of the good and bad (nothing disastrous).
  
  1) For those of us used to the Sysvinit form of init, the jbl
 approach
  takes some getting used to.  Instead of the directories with Sxxx
 and
  Kxxx links for each run level, there is a single unified script
 for
  each run level.  You turn on or off scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d by
  adding/removing execute permission.  
  
  2) I like the jbl package stuff, but there is no way to do a
 pretend
  install.  The provided rpm2jbl program works.  There is also a
 patched
  version of check install that works quite well and converts the
  tarballs to a jbl package on the fly.
  
  3) I had to install a few packages to get the prereqs for xfce,
  sylpheed, and opera.  Some were on the cdrom, some were tarballs,
 all
  installed without a hitch, as did the afformentioned products.
  
  4) I can't think of much else right now; jbl is darn near perfect
 for
  my needs.
  
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KDE2.2 packages from Caldera

2001-08-27 Thread Collins Richey

Since I didn't feel like an install from sources, I downloaded KDE2.2
from the Caldera 3.1 site, converted them to jbl packages, and
installed.  The reason I picked Caldera was that I knew the packages
have a compatible glibc and they would install to /opt and leave my
KDE 2.1.1 stuff in /usr untouched.

I got the base and libs packages.  Do I need more as a minimum.  When
I tried bringing up KDE2 (using KDEDIR=/opt/kde2 and a path statement
that put /opt/kde2/bin ahead of everything else, I was able to get
part way before KDE2 barfed - unable to dload the dcop... stuff and
some other things.  All the directory stuff in the error messages
looked ok.  What else amy I missing?

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jblinux CD-RW

2001-08-27 Thread Collins Richey

Well, I stand corrected.  Jbl did include sr_mod, but they built it
into the kernel.  So, are you ready for this, you need to 'append
hda=ide-scsi' to make it work!  We had that long discussion about this
no longer being necessary on 2.4.x kernels, and I certainly don't need
it on my gentoo system, but here it is again!

No, hda is not a typo - my system is setup weird.

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Denver Area
jblinux 2.2 xfce sylpheed opera
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Re: The Worm: How you doin'?

2001-08-27 Thread Andrew Mathews

Alan Jackson wrote:
snip
 Yeah, I just got a 6 Mbyte file in my e-mail from some idiot with an
 infected machine. I'm getting really testy about this - by this time
 people need to get their friggin' machines cleaned up.
 --
snip

Which poses a totally different question. Can Sendmail be configured to
reject mail based upon the mailer type? There's a few that a canned
reply of This domain no longer accepts mail messages from Outlook or
Outlook Express due to unacceptable security. Please use a secure mailer
program.
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  9:05pm  up  3:33,  2 users,  load average: 1.09, 1.06, 1.02

She liked him; he was a man of many qualities, even if most of them were
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Re: jblinux experiences

2001-08-27 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:13:53 +0700
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:37:21 -0600 Myles Green
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks for the pointer... looks like it might be interesting. Do you
  happen to know if there is an FTP install? 
 
 You can ftp all the packages to a directory and install from that

OK, that works for me =) thanks again.

 directory, but there is no fetch the packages on the fly like there is
 with gentoo.

 The only other flaw I forgot to mention:  jbl doesn't provide the
 sr_mod.o module, so you will need to customize the kernel to get
 support for CD-RW.

This is OK too, one of the first things I do on my systems is build a
new kernel.
 
 The installer found my sound card (esssolo1) and NIC (tulip) without a
 hitch, and DHCP is selectable.
 
 I have cups working for my printer as well.  USB support is there, but

I've been unable to get past printing the test page with slackware 8 /
apsfilter and I've just installed cups / qtcups and and am now trying to
get everything setup and working. Having it all setup and ready to
configure would be nice though g. 

 I can't check it out with my equipment; nor do I know how the system
 will fare with SCSI disk and/or PMCIA for laptops.

I use neither of these as well but I do have a USB mouse. I don't expect
any problems...

Thanks for your review =)

Myles
 
 The only user group is the forum on the jbl site, and the traffic is
 pretty light there, but I'm sure the heavy weights on this list can
 answer most questions.
 
 Collins
 
  
  On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:23:27 +0700
  Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   FYI
   
   I think this is the greatest distro ever!!!
   
   Except for a very few things omitted from the Desktop+Development
   install option, the system has everything I could possibly want
  and
   more (both GNOME and KDE are onboard).
   
   Here are some of the good and bad (nothing disastrous).
   
   1) For those of us used to the Sysvinit form of init, the jbl
  approach
   takes some getting used to.  Instead of the directories with Sxxx
  and
   Kxxx links for each run level, there is a single unified script
  for
   each run level.  You turn on or off scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d by
   adding/removing execute permission.  
   
   2) I like the jbl package stuff, but there is no way to do a
  pretend
   install.  The provided rpm2jbl program works.  There is also a
  patched
   version of check install that works quite well and converts the
   tarballs to a jbl package on the fly.
   
   3) I had to install a few packages to get the prereqs for xfce,
   sylpheed, and opera.  Some were on the cdrom, some were tarballs,
  all
   installed without a hitch, as did the afformentioned products.
   
   4) I can't think of much else right now; jbl is darn near perfect
  for
   my needs.
   
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Re: The Worm: How you doin'?

2001-08-27 Thread Joel Hammer

 Which poses a totally different question. Can Sendmail be configured to
 reject mail based upon the mailer type? There's a few that a canned
 reply of This domain no longer accepts mail messages from Outlook or
 Outlook Express due to unacceptable security. Please use a secure mailer
 program.
Couldn't procmail be configured to do this?
Joel

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Re: The Worm: How you doin'?

2001-08-27 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

had to look thru my bookmark mess, use ruleset, look at the check_x_mailer 
rule
http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/chk89-opt.html

On Monday 27 August 2001 22:13, Andrew Mathews wrote:
 Alan Jackson wrote:
 snip

  Yeah, I just got a 6 Mbyte file in my e-mail from some idiot with an
  infected machine. I'm getting really testy about this - by this time
  people need to get their friggin' machines cleaned up.
  --

 snip

 Which poses a totally different question. Can Sendmail be configured to
 reject mail based upon the mailer type? There's a few that a canned
 reply of This domain no longer accepts mail messages from Outlook or
 Outlook Express due to unacceptable security. Please use a secure mailer
 program.

-- 
Ronnie
==
Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare
it's all in your mind
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