Re: Howto with NT problems

2001-09-30 Thread James McDonald

Kieth,

I had a look at the manual @
http://www.tunstallgroup.com/support-userManuals.html and it looks as if the
vision software uses integrated NT security to handle it's passwords.

If you download the PNC3 Vision User Manual Book 1 it should point you in
the right direction. It has instructions on doing all the stuff you have
asked about.

Cheers
James "would like fries with that MCSE" McDonald


- Original Message -
From: "Keith Antoine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: Howto with NT problems


> On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:32, you whispered in my pinkie:
> > Keith,
> >
> > Please let us know what version of database software you have. It makes
a
> > lot of difference as to how to restore an old db over the top.
> >
> > Regards
> > James
>
> Sorry to be ignorant but where does one find that info and how with NT.
>
> --
> -
> To those who have been in harms way, to those that have made the
> sacrifice in humanities name. At the going down of the sun and
> in the morning I shall remember them.
> -
> Keith Antoine aka "skippy"
> 18 Arkana St The Gap Queensland 4061 Australia PH 16 7 33002161
> Retired Geriatric and Sometime Electronics Engineer : Knowall
>
> ___
> http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest,
Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



W3C patent policy.

2001-09-30 Thread Zoki



Here's a mail Alan Cox sent the W3C before the Sept. 30th deadline. 
Internet seems to have been surprised by this commando type move of W3C.

One of the readers mentioned that "RAND" in Hindi means "prostitute" and in 
Japanese (Kanji) "chaos".

Anyway, I don't remember seeing anybody mention this issue before which is 
why I'm urging you to have a read... It's kind of important.

Zoran.

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



W3C patent policy.

2001-09-30 Thread Zoki



Here's a mail Alan Cox sent the W3C before the Sept. 30th deadline. 
Internet seems to have been surprised by this commando type move of W3C.

One of the readers mentioned that "RAND" in Hindi means "prostitute" and in 
Japanese (Kanji) "chaos".

Anyway, I don't remember seeing anybody mention this issue before which is 
why I'm urging you to have a read... It's kind of important.

Zoran.

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: bzImage question - now make modules

2001-09-30 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Sunday 30 September 2001 08:51 pm, Bruce Marshall spoke thus unto 
Caesar's assembled legions:
> On Sunday 30 September 2001 23:28 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> > OK, I removed zoran and buz from the video adapters loadable
> > modules. I re-ran xconfig: OK
> > make dep:   OK
> > make clean:   OK
> > make bzImage:  OK
> > make modules:  OK
> > make modules_install:   OK until the very end where I think it runs
> > depmod -a.  The list of modules with "unresolved symbols" looks
> > like virtually every module.  depmod -a 2.4.4 produces the same
> > list again. Before I started anything, I did
> > mv /lib/modules/2.4.0 /lib/modules/old-2.4.0
> > depmod -a on the running kernel 2.4.0 gives no problems.
> >
> > Getting closer but still no cigar.
> > Any ideas?
> > Thanks!
>
> I haven't been following this thread too closely but I do remember
> that the first time I did a compile of a 2.4.x  kernel, I had all
> kinds of unresolved symbols.   I kept at it by changing the config
> until I got it right.  I think that was the 2.4.6 kernel.   If you 
> pick certain options without picking other related options, I think
> you can get into this mess.

Hmmm.  Maybe I will try a vanilla default kernel to get it to boot, 
then add stuff on.  
Thanks!

-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Big LILO Mistake

2001-09-30 Thread Tony Alfrey

I screwed up my lilo.conf file big time and ran /sbin/lilo.  Now I 
cannot boot that partition.  However, I can access it from another 
partition.  Is there a way that I can rerun /sbin/lilo from one 
partition yet have it write the correct map file and boot sector to the 
other partition?  I think this is possible from reading the LILO Users 
Guide but I'd hate to blow up the unaffected partition also.  I need a 
LILO expert on this one  :- (

Thanks very much in advance!


-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: pointers for an SCO question

2001-09-30 Thread Keith Morse

On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Bill Campbell wrote:

> You have to be a bit more specific than that.  What's the output of the
> ``uname -X'' command?  This will give the full version number.  The current
> version is 3.2v5.0.6.

Point taken.  Will do when I get access again.


> The program to configure NICs is ``netconfig''.  OpenServer is fairly picky
> about what it will support.  I've found that it pays to stick to things
> like the later 3C509 ISA cards with Plug-n-Pray turned off (early versions
> of the firmware on these wouldn't stay turned off).  Some of the SMC 10/100
> PCI cards cards work well as do older SMC/Western Digital 3000 series.  ISA
> NE2000 clones can be a problem, and netconfig won't let you set them at any
> of the higher IRQs.  I spent a good part of an afternoon recently going
> through my parts shelves before I found a NIC that would work properly with
> 3.2v5.0.5, finally getting it to work with the 3c509.

The only documentation I could find was a Openserver configuration
guide. The command it referenced was "scoadmin".  I'll take a look at
netconfig.


> Unless you really want to run OpenServer, I would suggest loading Linux on
> the box.

Indeed, and I quite agree.  But it is a legacy product as far as they are
concerned and will not spend any more money on it.  My main goal is to
copy the WordPerfect documents from it to the NT server.  Scoadmin
autodetects the card as a 3c9XX, but won't complete the configuration.  


Thanks for your help.  Keith

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: weird problems chapter ???

2001-09-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Bruce Marshall wrote:
% On Sunday 30 September 2001 23:38 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
% > My swap space is 4015848K, only 45000K used with three browsers,
% > kword, and sylpheed running.  It goes up a little bit when compiles
% > are running, too, but memory is not seriously overcomitted.
% 
% 4GB's of swap space??You running weather sim's?   :o)

Probably just KDE 

K
-- 
To be beautiful is enough! if a woman can do that well who should demand
more from her?  You don't want a rose to sing.
-- Thackeray
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: [SLE] A gentle request

2001-09-30 Thread Marianne Taylor

This is exactly how I have the Suse e-mail list set up but when I click reply 
this will go to the person asking the question, rather than the list.  Hence 
the other solutions.
1)  press "l" (that is the lowercase letter L)
2)  right click the address and select -- send to

Marianne Taylor

On Saturday 29 September 2001 17:55, you wrote:
>Are we speaking of kmail here and how to set things up to respond to the
>list?
>
>I think I missed the first msg of the thread and in the archives I am having
>problems tracking down the appropriate initial message So I'm just
> taking a guess as to the initial question and could be totally off the map
> here.
>
>Currently with KMail 1.3.1 and also earlier versions I had, using a folder
>per mailing list just select folder properties, check off "folder
>contains a mailing list' and input the post address.  Then replies will
>always go to the list by default. (And you can easily post by right clicking
>the mailing list folder)
>
>David Aikema
>
>> > >> On Tuesday 25 September 2001 15:56, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>> > >> > But two good solutions for kmail came out of this:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 1) If you right click on the name of the list in the email (in
>> > >> Kmail) it > will give you a choice of what you want to do and who you
>> > >> want to do it > to.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >  :o) so you can choose to reply to the list.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 2) Use a procmail recipe of:
>> > >> > :0f
>> > >> >
>> > >> > * ^X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e
>> > >> >
>> > >> > | formail -bfi "Reply-To: SLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
>> > >> >
>> > >> > or whatever list you might want to diddle with.   Works like a
>> > >> charm.
>> > >>
>> > >> These are useful and useable answers. The bottom line for me however
>> > >> was that some majority of the users of those lists will not do so, or
>> > >> at least simply reply to the person, not the list. Extrapolating that
>> > >> means I wouldn't get to see 'answers' to some potentially interesting
>> > >> questions and hence reading the material is too frustrating. Probably
>> > >> no greater example of what I mean is, the bulk of the SxS comes from
>> > >> material culled from replies to this and other mailers.
>> > >
>> > >I agree 100% and it is a total pain.  I don't know how many times I
>> > > would post a response and then realize I only sent it to the
>> > > individual.   I then would have to retrieve the original, copy my
>> > > response into another reply and then send it to the list.  A total
>> > > pain.
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: weird problems chapter ???

2001-09-30 Thread Net Llama

--- Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 23:10:38 -0400 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday 30 September 2001 22:34 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> > > Eeek, only 64MB of RAM?  That can't be helping performance any. 
> > But
> > > even so, the system shouldn't lock up.  Perhaps its overheating,
> > or has
> > > a few too many dust bunnies?  Also, how long did you run
> > memtest86?
> 
> Yeah, ram for this box is dirt cheap, but I'm too lazy to open the
> case.  Even so, I've had relatively few problems from this old work
> horse.  I just ran the memtest today.  Next step is to try it again
> after leaving the box on for a day or so and let it run all night.

memtest86 results cannot be considered reliable unless its been run for
a minimum of 24 hours or 1 pass, whichever comes last.  In fact, on my
boxes where i found memory problems, they appeared at around the 26th
hour of testing.  I still suspect overheating as a more likely problem
from the symptoms you've mentioned.  Also, have you looked at your
messages log for any clues?


=

Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com

 .

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone.
http://phone.yahoo.com
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: bzImage question - now make modules

2001-09-30 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Sunday 30 September 2001 23:28 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> OK, I removed zoran and buz from the video adapters loadable modules.
> I re-ran xconfig: OK
> make dep:   OK
> make clean:   OK
> make bzImage:  OK
> make modules:  OK
> make modules_install:   OK until the very end where I think it runs
> depmod -a.  The list of modules with "unresolved symbols" looks like
> virtually every module.  depmod -a 2.4.4 produces the same list again.  
> Before I started anything, I did
> mv /lib/modules/2.4.0 /lib/modules/old-2.4.0
> depmod -a on the running kernel 2.4.0 gives no problems.
>
> Getting closer but still no cigar.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

I haven't been following this thread too closely but I do remember that the 
first time I did a compile of a 2.4.x  kernel, I had all kinds of unresolved 
symbols.   I kept at it by changing the config until I got it right.  I think 
that was the 2.4.6 kernel.   If you  pick certain options without picking 
other related options, I think you can get into this mess.




-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 09/30/01 23:49  +
++
"Can you repeat the part after, "Listen very carefully?"
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



python with tkinter question

2001-09-30 Thread Collins Richey

Does anyone in the group have experience with these?

Yeah, I know there are mail groups that specialize, but I'm not
interested in adding another 50-60 mails a day firehose just to get a
few answers.

I've coded up a set of gui panels that allow me to browse the
installed packages and packages ready to be installed on my gentoo
portage system - scrollable list of packages and double click to view
the .ebuild file (the package install instructions).  Works like a
champ, but when I quit out of the panel that views the .ebuild, I kill
both panels and never return to the main panel.

Any takers?

-- 
Collins Richey
Denver Area
gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: M'soft CD topartners about "Competing with Linux"

2001-09-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Kurt Wall wrote:
% 

[snippety...]

% packet sniffers won't catch clear text passwords because their aren't

Oops: s/their/there/

[...snip]
% some electronic equipment of the Maginot line that airplanes can fly

Geez: s/equipment/equivalent/

Kurt
-- 
Let us treat men and women well;
Treat them as if they were real;
Perhaps they are.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: weird problems chapter ???

2001-09-30 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Sunday 30 September 2001 23:38 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> My swap space is 4015848K, only 45000K used with three browsers,
> kword, and sylpheed running.  It goes up a little bit when compiles
> are running, too, but memory is not seriously overcomitted.

4GB's of swap space??You running weather sim's?   :o)


-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 09/30/01 23:32  +
++
"There's one in every crowd and they always find me."
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: bzImage question - now make modules

2001-09-30 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Sunday 30 September 2001 06:46 pm,Collins Richey wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:01:29 -0700 Tony Alfrey

> >
> > zoran is a loadable kernel module for a video adapter that is
> > selected
> > as "m" in xconfig as is buz.   So what do you experts think? 
> > Should I
> > just trash these in xconfig?  Or any other ideas?
>
> Unless your hardware configuration requires this to run, by all means
> don't select this one in your kernel configuration.  It's quite
> common for some of the more esoteric selections not to have been
> thoroughly checked out.

OK, I removed zoran and buz from the video adapters loadable modules.
I re-ran xconfig: OK
make dep:   OK
make clean:   OK
make bzImage:  OK
make modules:  OK
make modules_install:   OK until the very end where I think it runs 
depmod -a.  The list of modules with "unresolved symbols" looks like 
virtually every module.  depmod -a 2.4.4 produces the same list again.  
Before I started anything, I did
mv /lib/modules/2.4.0 /lib/modules/old-2.4.0
depmod -a on the running kernel 2.4.0 gives no problems.

Getting closer but still no cigar.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: weird problems chapter ???

2001-09-30 Thread Collins Richey

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 23:10:38 -0400 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Sunday 30 September 2001 22:34 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> > Eeek, only 64MB of RAM?  That can't be helping performance any. 
> But
> > even so, the system shouldn't lock up.  Perhaps its overheating,
> or has
> > a few too many dust bunnies?  Also, how long did you run
> memtest86?

Yeah, ram for this box is dirt cheap, but I'm too lazy to open the
case.  Even so, I've had relatively few problems from this old work
horse.  I just ran the memtest today.  Next step is to try it again
after leaving the box on for a day or so and let it run all night.

> >
> > --- Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've been experiencing weird hangs from time to time.  This
> usually
> > > occurs when the cpu (K6/II 300 with 64M) is running flat out and
> > > swaping is active, like when I run a set of kde compiles (many
> hours)
> > > and continue to use the box for email and browsing.  At first I
> > > thought Opera might be the culprit, but I've seen the problem
> occur
> > > without opera.
> > >
> 
> Is swap space large enough??   It's easy these days when adding
> memory to 
> forget to add swap space.  I noticed today that my  768M RAM system
> only had 
> 313M of swap space  (oh dear) but yet it was running  >ok<  but
> seemed to be 
> using almost all of that space.
> 
> Of that 313M swap space,  about 286M were being used all the time
> and mem was 
> also almost full.  (as you would expect)
> 
> I just finished increasing swap to 800M  (which is still possibly
> shy) and 
> now *NO* swap space usage.  Can't explain why that is but a word to
> the 
> wise.

My swap space is 4015848K, only 45000K used with three browsers,
kword, and sylpheed running.  It goes up a little bit when compiles
are running, too, but memory is not seriously overcomitted.

> 
> 
> 
> > > My environment 2.4.4.9+ kernel, X 4.1.0, Savage  video card,
> XFCE,
> > > sylpheed, nothing bleeding edge with compiler or glibc.  Swap
> file is
> > > active, and I have more than 2X physical memory.
> > >
> > > The symptoms are:  When browsing at high system loads, the mouse
> and
> > > keyboard stop responding.  Reboot required.  Thanks goodness I
> use
> > > resierfs.
> > >
> > > FYI, I have run the memtest86 tests, and my memory (well my PC's
> > > memory, my own is another story) appears to be ok.

-- 
Collins Richey
Denver Area
gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: M'soft CD topartners about "Competing with Linux"

2001-09-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Chang wrote:
% you were taklomg about damages from within? well... what can I say...
% 
% > Relying on a firewall alone is not "security" to any kind of professional
% > industry standard. Unfortuantely, it is a v ery common configuration.

No, what Burns meant (if I may) is that far too many organizations
believe a firewall is sufficient protection against attack, which it
isn't. If your only security tool is a firewall, you have nothing to
protect your internal network once the firewall is breached -- under
sustained attack, *any* net-connected firewall can be breached -- so,
for example, those clear text passwords that telnet and the r*
services pass around are easily snooped. On the other hand, if you
disable telnet and r* services internally and required the use of SSH,
packet sniffers won't catch clear text passwords because their aren't
any to catch.

Properly conceived security is comprised of layers of protection, not
some electronic equipment of the Maginot line that airplanes can fly
right over.

Kurt
-- 
Never make anything simple and efficient when a way can be found to
make it complex and wonderful.
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: weird problems chapter ???

2001-09-30 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Sunday 30 September 2001 22:34 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> Eeek, only 64MB of RAM?  That can't be helping performance any.  But
> even so, the system shouldn't lock up.  Perhaps its overheating, or has
> a few too many dust bunnies?  Also, how long did you run memtest86?
>
> --- Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've been experiencing weird hangs from time to time.  This usually
> > occurs when the cpu (K6/II 300 with 64M) is running flat out and
> > swaping is active, like when I run a set of kde compiles (many hours)
> > and continue to use the box for email and browsing.  At first I
> > thought Opera might be the culprit, but I've seen the problem occur
> > without opera.
> >

Is swap space large enough??   It's easy these days when adding memory to 
forget to add swap space.  I noticed today that my  768M RAM system only had 
313M of swap space  (oh dear) but yet it was running  >ok<  but seemed to be 
using almost all of that space.

Of that 313M swap space,  about 286M were being used all the time and mem was 
also almost full.  (as you would expect)

I just finished increasing swap to 800M  (which is still possibly shy) and 
now *NO* swap space usage.  Can't explain why that is but a word to the 
wise.



> > My environment 2.4.4.9+ kernel, X 4.1.0, Savage  video card, XFCE,
> > sylpheed, nothing bleeding edge with compiler or glibc.  Swap file is
> > active, and I have more than 2X physical memory.
> >
> > The symptoms are:  When browsing at high system loads, the mouse and
> > keyboard stop responding.  Reboot required.  Thanks goodness I use
> > resierfs.
> >
> > FYI, I have run the memtest86 tests, and my memory (well my PC's
> > memory, my own is another story) appears to be ok.
>
> =
> 
> Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com
>
>  .
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone.
> http://phone.yahoo.com
> ___
> http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc
> ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 09/30/01 23:07  +
++
"In most advertisements, the time displayed on a watch is 10:10."
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Building a machine on the cheap - MB Info

2001-09-30 Thread Ian Marchak

burns wrote:
> 

> > > One board that has shown favorable reviews for quality and reliability,
> > > the ECS K7S5A, which includes AC97 audio (which is supposed to be the
> > > same across al boards is it not?).  "SiS 7012 PCI" are the specs from
> > > the ECS website. And a built-in NIC, which according to the ECS site is
> > > a: "SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet".
> >
> I am using an ECS card with the TBird. It uses the SiS 735 chipset and it has
> ethernet, graphics, NIC, sound support and a game port. However, I'm not a
> big fan of onboard components (they usually provide cheesy performance), so
> I've disabled them and am using my own add-ons.

I figured as much, I just wondered about the ability to disable them.
Suggested by Jerry, no drivers no IRQ, were you able to disable the
built-ins in the BIOS or how?

I've posed these questions to the vendor I am speaking with, and it's
not that I don't trust the guy, but it's nice to hear these things from
impartial 3rd parties.
-- 
Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/]
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Building a machine on the cheap - MB Info

2001-09-30 Thread Ian Marchak

Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:07:51 -0400 Ian Marchak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am looking at building a machine on a shoestring, actually using some
> > existing parts and blah blah, you get the idea.
> >
> 

> I've got some experience with ac97 on some compaq boxes at work. They're
> equiped with ess sound chips. Caldera 3.1 will install on them without
> problems and even detect the sound system. It loads the right chip driver
> along
> with the ac97_codec driver. Since the onboard sound chip sucked for VOIP, I
> did a shut down, turned off the box, plugged in a soundblaster value live
> (PCI)
> sound card and rebooted the machine. After I got to a console, I rmmod the
> maestro3 sound driver, modprobe or insmod (whatever you like) the sb live
> driver emuk10k and bingo... the ess stuff is disabled, my sb card is running
> like a champ. VOIP works pretty good on this compaq stuff too.
> 
> On the PCI bus, the irq's are passed out to the various cards so as to not
> cause any
> conflicts. Since I don't load the driver for the ess chips, they are
> more-or-less cut out
> of the system. I'm not real thrilled by doing this, but there's no way, short
> of removing
> the chips off the motherboard, to disable them othewise.
> 
> Is that good enough for disabling the onboard hardware? Seems to be. There's
> no
> unusual problems or anything out of the ordinary.

As you say, not a perfect solution, but perfection is too expensive!

> > Can anyone shed some light on this?  I stopped paying attention to
> > Hardware for too long and am playing catch up.
> >
> 
> You never catch up, Ian, the best we can hope to do is surf the crest... :')

Ride the crest...I just ask the sufers what the crest was like when they
get to shore!  It's much safer on the beach.
-- 
Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/]
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Fwd: [loki-announce] A Letter to Our Customers

2001-09-30 Thread Chang

It would be a long way before games on Linux could be profitable...

"Douglas J. Hunley" wrote:
> 
> ,--- Forwarded message (begin)
> 
>  Subject: [loki-announce] A Letter to Our Customers
>  From: Kayt Sorhaindo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 02:21:44 -0400
> 
>  Dear Friend of Loki:
> 
>  During and after the reorganization your orders will continue to be
>  honored. We will continue to provide end user support, bug fixes and new
>  products. Negotiations are in progress to guarantee Loki a steady stream
>  of additional AAA games to bring to Linux.

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: M'soft CD topartners about "Competing with Linux"

2001-09-30 Thread Chang

you were taklomg about damages from within? well... what can I say...

> Relying on a firewall alone is not "security" to any kind of professional
> industry standard. Unfortuantely, it is a v ery common configuration.
>

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: weird problems chapter ???

2001-09-30 Thread Net Llama

Eeek, only 64MB of RAM?  That can't be helping performance any.  But
even so, the system shouldn't lock up.  Perhaps its overheating, or has
a few too many dust bunnies?  Also, how long did you run memtest86?

--- Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been experiencing weird hangs from time to time.  This usually
> occurs when the cpu (K6/II 300 with 64M) is running flat out and
> swaping is active, like when I run a set of kde compiles (many hours)
> and continue to use the box for email and browsing.  At first I
> thought Opera might be the culprit, but I've seen the problem occur
> without opera.
> 
> My environment 2.4.4.9+ kernel, X 4.1.0, Savage  video card, XFCE,
> sylpheed, nothing bleeding edge with compiler or glibc.  Swap file is
> active, and I have more than 2X physical memory.
> 
> The symptoms are:  When browsing at high system loads, the mouse and
> keyboard stop responding.  Reboot required.  Thanks goodness I use
> resierfs.
> 
> FYI, I have run the memtest86 tests, and my memory (well my PC's
> memory, my own is another story) appears to be ok.



=

Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com

 .

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone.
http://phone.yahoo.com
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



tv server

2001-09-30 Thread Chang

Is it possible to turn my linux into a tv signal server?
I want to add a tv card into the linux server, and use real player (or
Windows Media Player) in client workstations to watch tv... :)

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Building a machine on the cheap - MB Info

2001-09-30 Thread burns

On September 30, 2001 09:44 am, Jerry McBride wrote:

> > I have decided I want to go down the Athlon route...
>

Good choice. I am running an Athalon Thunderbird 1400MHz and it flies (stable 
too)!

> Nice start. Prices have really been dropping like leaves lately. I've seen
> $30 256meg
> sdrams at work...
>

I picked up 512Mb of DDRAM when I was building this box for about $70 per 
256Mb stick.

> > One board that has shown favorable reviews for quality and reliability,
> > the ECS K7S5A, which includes AC97 audio (which is supposed to be the
> > same across al boards is it not?).  "SiS 7012 PCI" are the specs from
> > the ECS website. And a built-in NIC, which according to the ECS site is
> > a: "SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet".
>
I am using an ECS card with the TBird. It uses the SiS 735 chipset and it has 
ethernet, graphics, NIC, sound support and a game port. However, I'm not a 
big fan of onboard components (they usually provide cheesy performance), so 
I've disabled them and am using my own add-ons.

-- 
burns
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Building a machine on the cheap - MB Info

2001-09-30 Thread Jerry McBride

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:07:51 -0400 Ian Marchak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am looking at building a machine on a shoestring, actually using some
> existing parts and blah blah, you get the idea.
> 

My kinda' guy!

> I have decided I want to go down the Athlon route...
>

Nice start. Prices have really been dropping like leaves lately. I've seen
$30 256meg 
sdrams at work...

> One board that has shown favorable reviews for quality and reliability,
> the ECS K7S5A, which includes AC97 audio (which is supposed to be the
> same across al boards is it not?).  "SiS 7012 PCI" are the specs from
> the ECS website. And a built-in NIC, which according to the ECS site is
> a: "SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet".
> 

I favor SOYO TEC, but have no experience with their athlon boards. However,
like 
their k6-2 cousins... they probably do very well.

> After digging into these two items, I found links to driver info for the
> SiS900 NIC which has apparently been supported for some time, both on
> the ECS site and on the web.
> 
> However the the SiS7012 search didn't fare as well.  With Skippy's
> recent posts on the subject of AC97 sound I am concerned it won't work. 
> Along those lines, can these AC97 devices be disabled?  I am wondering
> if this thing will mung up or otherwise interfere with my ability to use
> a known functional sound card based.
> 

I've got some experience with ac97 on some compaq boxes at work. They're
equiped with ess sound chips. Caldera 3.1 will install on them without
problems and even detect the sound system. It loads the right chip driver
along
with the ac97_codec driver. Since the onboard sound chip sucked for VOIP, I
did a shut down, turned off the box, plugged in a soundblaster value live
(PCI)
sound card and rebooted the machine. After I got to a console, I rmmod the
maestro3 sound driver, modprobe or insmod (whatever you like) the sb live
driver emuk10k and bingo... the ess stuff is disabled, my sb card is running
like a champ. VOIP works pretty good on this compaq stuff too.

On the PCI bus, the irq's are passed out to the various cards so as to not
cause any
conflicts. Since I don't load the driver for the ess chips, they are
more-or-less cut out
of the system. I'm not real thrilled by doing this, but there's no way, short
of removing
the chips off the motherboard, to disable them othewise.

Is that good enough for disabling the onboard hardware? Seems to be. There's
no
unusual problems or anything out of the ordinary.

> Can anyone shed some light on this?  I stopped paying attention to
> Hardware for too long and am playing catch up.
> 

You never catch up, Ian, the best we can hope to do is surf the crest... :')

--

**
 Registered Linux User Number 185956
  http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux
 9:25pm  up 3 days, 23:24,  2 users,  load average: 2.85, 1.11, 0.78
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: bzImage question - now make modules

2001-09-30 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Sunday 30 September 2001 06:46 pm,Collins Richey wrote:

> >
> > zoran is a loadable kernel module for a video adapter that is
> > selected
> > as "m" in xconfig as is buz.   So what do you experts think? 
> > Should I
> > just trash these in xconfig?  Or any other ideas?
>
> Unless your hardware configuration requires this to run, by all means
> don't select this one in your kernel configuration.  It's quite
> common for some of the more esoteric selections not to have been
> thoroughly checked out.

OK.  It was selected as a loadable kernel module on the 2.4.0 kernel, 
but I'll blow it away and see if it works.

-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: bzImage question - now make modules

2001-09-30 Thread Collins Richey

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:01:29 -0700 Tony Alfrey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi list!
> 
> Earlier I complained about my 2.4.4 kernel compile crashing at make 
> bzImage.  But it appears that the problem was in running xconfig in
> run 
> level 3 and not within X.  So now things get as far as make modules 
> before going bonk.  I get this:
> 
> buz.c:322: `KMALLOC_MAXSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function)
> buz.c:316: warning: `alloc_contig' might be used uninitialized in
> this 
> function
> buz.c: In function `zoran_ioctl':
> buz.c:2837: `KMALLOC_MAXSIZE' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> make[3]: *** [buz.o] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory 
> `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers/media/video'
> make[2]: *** [_modsubdir_video] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers/media'
> make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_media] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers'
> make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2
> 
> zoran is a loadable kernel module for a video adapter that is
> selected 
> as "m" in xconfig as is buz.   So what do you experts think?  Should
> I 
> just trash these in xconfig?  Or any other ideas?

Unless your hardware configuration requires this to run, by all means
don't select this one in your kernel configuration.  It's quite common
for some of the more esoteric selections not to have been thoroughly
checked out.

-- 
Collins Richey
Denver Area
gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Building a machine on the cheap - MB Info

2001-09-30 Thread Ian Marchak

I am looking at building a machine on a shoestring, actually using some
existing parts and blah blah, you get the idea.

I have decided I want to go down the Athlon route again and have been
looking up boards to see what has given people fits when used with
linux.  NOTE: I don't intend to go down the overclocking path, as I just
don't have the patience to see how far I can "push it"

One board that has shown favorable reviews for quality and reliability,
the ECS K7S5A, which includes AC97 audio (which is supposed to be the
same across al boards is it not?).  "SiS 7012 PCI" are the specs from
the ECS website. And a built-in NIC, which according to the ECS site is
a: "SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet".

After digging into these two items, I found links to driver info for the
SiS900 NIC which has apparently been supported for some time, both on
the ECS site and on the web.

However the the SiS7012 search didn't fare as well.  With Skippy's
recent posts on the subject of AC97 sound I am concerned it won't work. 
Along those lines, can these AC97 devices be disabled?  I am wondering
if this thing will mung up or otherwise interfere with my ability to use
a known functional sound card based.

Can anyone shed some light on this?  I stopped paying attention to
Hardware for too long and am playing catch up.
--  
Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/]
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



bzImage question - now make modules

2001-09-30 Thread Tony Alfrey

Hi list!

Earlier I complained about my 2.4.4 kernel compile crashing at make 
bzImage.  But it appears that the problem was in running xconfig in run 
level 3 and not within X.  So now things get as far as make modules 
before going bonk.  I get this:

buz.c:322: `KMALLOC_MAXSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function)
buz.c:316: warning: `alloc_contig' might be used uninitialized in this 
function
buz.c: In function `zoran_ioctl':
buz.c:2837: `KMALLOC_MAXSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[3]: *** [buz.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers/media/video'
make[2]: *** [_modsubdir_video] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers/media'
make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_media] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/drivers'
make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2

zoran is a loadable kernel module for a video adapter that is selected 
as "m" in xconfig as is buz.   So what do you experts think?  Should I 
just trash these in xconfig?  Or any other ideas?
Thanks!


-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Creating Encrypted Passwords

2001-09-30 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 26 September 2001 02:11, Kurt Wall wrote:

> Here's the promised code. I build it with:
> $ gcc -Wall -ansi -pedantic crypt.c -o crypt -lcrypt


following on, here's some perl stuff I use

-
#!/usr/bin/perl

# call: install_newuser $password $username

sub install_newuser
{
$pwd = crypt($password,'ab');
sys_playback("useradd $username -p $pwd");
#system "sh", '-c', "useradd $username -p $pwd";
}
sub sys_playback 
{  
if (system("sh",'-c',"@_ ")) {errmsg("failed on @_");} 
} 

# 
#   # 
#  PASSWORD FILE# 
#   # 
# 
# 
# &check_password $username,$password 
# 
#   returns 1 correct 
#   0 not correct 
#   -1 username not found 
# 
sub check_password 
{ 
local ($user,$pass)= @_; 
local ($login,$passwd,$uid,$gid,$gcos,$home,$shell); 
 
   if ($user eq "" or $pass eq "") {errmsg('user or password not supplied');} 
 
open_file($pwd_file); 
 
while() 
{ 
chop; 
($login,$passwd,$uid,$gid,$gcos,$home,$shell) = split(/:/); 
if(index($login,$user) > -1 && index($user,$login) > -1) 
{ 
if(crypt($pass,$passwd) eq $passwd) 
{ 
close(OLD); 
return 1; 
} 
else 
{ 
close(OLD); 
return 0; 
} 
last; 
} 
} 
close(OLD); 
return -1; 
} 

# 
# CHANGE PASSWORD 
# 
# &change_password($username,$new); 
# 
# old password verification must be done elsewhere 
# 
sub change_password 
{ 
local ($user,$new)=@_; 
local ($login,$passwd,$uid,$gid,$gcos,$home,$shell); 
local ($found); 
 
if ($user eq "" or $new eq "") {errmsg("user or password not supplied 
properly");} 
 
open_for_copy($pwd_file,'tmp');   
while() 
{   
$maybe=$_; 
 
if (!$found) 
{ 
chop; 
($login,$passwd,$uid,$gid,$gcos,$home,$shell) = split(/:/); 
if(index($login,$user) > -1 && index($user,$login) > -1) 
{ 
$found=1; 
$new=crypt($new,$passwd); 
print NEW  ("$login:$new:$uid:$gid:$gcos:$home:$shell\n"); 
} 
else {print NEW ($maybe);  } 
} 
else 
{ 
   print NEW ($maybe); 
} 
} 
close(OLD); 
close (NEW); 
if (!$found) 
{ 
unlink 'tmp'; 
errmsg("$user not found"); 
} 
set_new_pwd_file('tmp'); 
return $found; 
} 

-- 
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: click-a-can

2001-09-30 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 26 September 2001 15:23, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:

please mark this (type of) subject  

-- 
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: COMCAST@HOME files chapter 11

2001-09-30 Thread Ian Marchak

Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> I got this one this morning
> 
> ---quote on---
> 
> Dear Comcast @Home Customer,
> 
> On Friday, September 28, Excite@Home, the Internet service provider for
> Comcast @Home, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection to allow them
> the opportunity to restructure their financial situation with their
> creditors.
>  As you may know, financial restructuring allows companies that have declared
> 
> bankruptcy to continue to operate their business successfully.
> 
> More than five years ago, Comcast committed to the high-speed Internet
> business by partnering with Excite@Home, and we continue to be committed
> to providing high quality, reliable service.  We are confident that
> Excite@Home,
> whose major shareholders include AT&T, Cox and Comcast, will maintain all
> e-mail and web space services for our customers.
> 
> Comcast will continue providing its customers with the best high-speed
> Internet service both now and in the future.  We are doing everything
> possible
> to ensure that the 950,000 customers we will serve by year-end will continue
> to be served well while Excite@Home restructures its financial situation.
> 
> ---my comment---
> 
> That's almost 40 million dollars a year and they can't pay their bills?! Cut
> me a break.
> 
> ---my comment off---
> 
> Comcast views high-speed Internet as one of the most important products
> in our portfolio and we remain committed to this business and to our
> customers.
>  We thank you for choosing Comcast and look forward to continuing to provide
> you with the best high-speed Internet service available.


I received something similar from rogers@home in Canada, but with a
slightly different tone, note the sale to AT&T.


To: All Rogers @Home high speed Internet customers

A couple of weeks ago we made a commitment to keep you updated on any
developments regarding Excite @Home in the U.S.

Yesterday Excite @Home announced that it has agreed to sell its
high-speed Internet access assets to AT&T, pending court approval.
We are very pleased with this announcement as Rogers has worked well
with AT&T in the past and continues to do so.  As you may know, AT&T
is one of the largest communications companies in the world.

At the same time, Excite filed for bankruptcy protection under Chapter
11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code.  This action allows Excite
to remain in control of its business and provides it with protection
from creditors pending completion of the sale.

Please be assured that our commitment to you remains to provide you with
the best high speed Internet service.

We will continue to update you on a regular basis so that you remain
informed.


-- 
Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/]
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



COMCAST@HOME files chapter 11

2001-09-30 Thread Jerry McBride


I got this one this morning

---quote on---


Dear Comcast @Home Customer,

On Friday, September 28, Excite@Home, the Internet service provider for 
Comcast @Home, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection to allow them 
the opportunity to restructure their financial situation with their
creditors. 
 As you may know, financial restructuring allows companies that have declared

bankruptcy to continue to operate their business successfully.
 
More than five years ago, Comcast committed to the high-speed Internet 
business by partnering with Excite@Home, and we continue to be committed 
to providing high quality, reliable service.  We are confident that
Excite@Home, 
whose major shareholders include AT&T, Cox and Comcast, will maintain all 
e-mail and web space services for our customers. 

Comcast will continue providing its customers with the best high-speed 
Internet service both now and in the future.  We are doing everything
possible 
to ensure that the 950,000 customers we will serve by year-end will continue 
to be served well while Excite@Home restructures its financial situation.

---my comment---

That's almost 40 million dollars a year and they can't pay their bills?! Cut
me a break.

---my comment off---

Comcast views high-speed Internet as one of the most important products 
in our portfolio and we remain committed to this business and to our
customers. 
 We thank you for choosing Comcast and look forward to continuing to provide 
you with the best high-speed Internet service available.

Sincerely,

David Juliano
Sr. Vice President & General Manager

---quote off---

I wrote Mr. Juliano and blasted the shit out of him. He holds two top
management 
offices and no doubt drawing a slarary large enough to match. What a crock! 

I told him (like he really gives a damn) that I wouldn't fork over
another dollar increase for their lousy cable internet... 

Verizon of New Jersey is within $7.00 of what I'm currently paying now...
there's 
other for sure. At least, as far as digital internet goes, I have some
choice.

--

**
 Registered Linux User Number 185956
  http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux
 4:10pm  up 3 days, 18:09,  2 users,  load average: 0.17, 0.12, 0.04


-- 

**
 Registered Linux User Number 185956
  http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux
 5:30pm  up 3 days, 19:29,  2 users,  load average: 0.57, 0.80, 0.79
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: bzImage question

2001-09-30 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Thursday 27 September 2001 07:04 pm,Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:48:35 -0400 "Douglas J. Hunley"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > On Friday 28 September 2001 09:31, Tony Alfrey babbled:
> > > Entering directory /root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/kernel
> > > No rule to make target
> > > '/root/testlinux/linux-2.4.4/include/linux/modversions.h' needed
> > > by 'sched.o'. Stop.
> > >
> > > This directory of modules exists in my new kernel source, but is
> > > empty. Does anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong??
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > you did a 'make dep' between 'make config' and 'make bzImage'
> > right?
>
> If that comes back positive... try remarking out the lines in
> /etc/modules.conf. This
> can be a source of problems for all new kernel compilers out there.
>
> In particular try marking out the third "path[usb]..." line...
>
>
> #/etc/modules.conf
> keep
> #
> #path[usb]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/`uname -v`
> #path[usb]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`
> #path[usb]=/lib/modules/
> #path[usb]=/lib/modules/default
> #
> #alias usb-..01.00.00  audio.o
> #alias usb-..03.01.00  mouse.o
> #
> ---snip---

Yup!  Already did that.  Had to do that to make depmod -a work.

-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Fwd: [loki-announce] A Letter to Our Customers

2001-09-30 Thread Douglas J. Hunley


,--- Forwarded message (begin)

 Subject: [loki-announce] A Letter to Our Customers
 From: Kayt Sorhaindo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 02:21:44 -0400

 Dear Friend of Loki:
 
 As you may know, on August 3, 2001, Loki filed a Chapter 11 
 reorganization. As our valued customer, we wanted to let you know why we 
 have elected to reorganize and how, if at all, it will impact our ongoing 
 business.
 
 Under US law there are two kinds of bankruptcy:
 
 1) Chapter 7 is a liquidation. We have not filed a Chapter 7 and have no 
 intention of doing so.
 
 2) Chapter 11 is a reorganization. This will allow us to deal with our 
 creditors fairly and equitably and at the same time continue to operate 
 the company. We are still shipping products and porting new games and 
 expect to be doing so for a long, long time.
 
 Most of the debts we are restructuring through the Chapter 11 are well 
 over a year old. They represent mistakes made by a young company. We've 
 learned from our mistakes and become cash positive. Going forward we have 
 every confidence that Loki will continue to be successful and grow.
 
 We cannot say for certain how long Loki will remain in Chapter 11. It 
 depends on many factors. However we do intend to bring the process to a 
 conclusion as quickly as possible. Once our plan of reorganization is 
 accepted by the court, our creditors will receive an agreed upon 
 settlement and all other prepetition obligations will be fully and 
 finally discharged.
 
 During and after the reorganization your orders will continue to be 
 honored. We will continue to provide end user support, bug fixes and new 
 products. Negotiations are in progress to guarantee Loki a steady stream 
 of additional AAA games to bring to Linux.
 
 Most importantly, we'd like to thank each of you for your support over 
 the years. Without our customers, we are nothing. The outpouring of 
 support we have received in the last few days has been overwhelming, and 
 we will continue to do everything we can to merit that support.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Scott Draeker
 President, Loki Software
 

`--- Forwarded message (end)

-- 
Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 
Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ 
Brainbench Linux Administration Certified

~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~

"Someday I'll write my own philosophy book." -Calvin

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Howto with NT problems

2001-09-30 Thread Keith Antoine

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:32, you whispered in my pinkie:
> Keith,
>
> Please let us know what version of database software you have. It makes a
> lot of difference as to how to restore an old db over the top.
>
> Regards
> James

Sorry to be ignorant but where does one find that info and how with NT.

-- 
-
To those who have been in harms way, to those that have made the
sacrifice in humanities name. At the going down of the sun and
in the morning I shall remember them. 
-
Keith Antoine aka "skippy"
18 Arkana St The Gap Queensland 4061 Australia PH 16 7 33002161
Retired Geriatric and Sometime Electronics Engineer : Knowall

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



weird problems chapter ???

2001-09-30 Thread Collins Richey

I've been experiencing weird hangs from time to time.  This usually
occurs when the cpu (K6/II 300 with 64M) is running flat out and
swaping is active, like when I run a set of kde compiles (many hours)
and continue to use the box for email and browsing.  At first I
thought Opera might be the culprit, but I've seen the problem occur
without opera.

My environment 2.4.4.9+ kernel, X 4.1.0, Savage  video card, XFCE,
sylpheed, nothing bleeding edge with compiler or glibc.  Swap file is
active, and I have more than 2X physical memory.

The symptoms are:  When browsing at high system loads, the mouse and
keyboard stop responding.  Reboot required.  Thanks goodness I use
resierfs.

FYI, I have run the memtest86 tests, and my memory (well my PC's
memory, my own is another story) appears to be ok.

Any clues?

-- 
Collins Richey
Denver Area
gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: Howto with NT problems

2001-09-30 Thread rplummer

Keith,

Try the default password that comes with NT which I believe is 
administrator. It may have never been changed. 

Ray

On 30 Sep 2001, at 10:54, Keith Antoine wrote:
> Query #2
> 
> There are tons of manuals re the vsision and anything in NT related to vision 
> but there is nothing to tell us how to change ADMINISTRATOR password. I 

Ray & Nancy Plummer
Copper, Elektra & WOK
http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



tcpd: Set suid?

2001-09-30 Thread Joel Hammer

I used tcpd to wrap my inet supplied services.
In my host.allow files I spawn scripts to check on certain conditions before
access is granted.
I tried to have a script mount a samba share, but it failed. Only root can
mount samba shares on my machine (I haven't figured that out yet.)
So, the question is, is it safe to make tcpd suid with chmod  4777 tcpd?
I imagine doing this will make the scripts spawned by tcdp run with root
privilege. However, I don't know what security holes that might open up. 
Thanks,
Joel

___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



C++ Xwindows toolkit 4 developing

2001-09-30 Thread Rick Sivernell

List

   Any one know of a good c++ developer toolkit for Xwindows. I do not want 
to use QT/KDE much too bloated, the gimp toolkit well can't seem to find any 
real documentation on. Would like to develop code for multiplatforms. I want 
to use the STL (ansi-iso version) and develop several disfferent projects. I 
just do not like the way so many of these programs are done, since I do not 
like them, can not change the worls , create my own is the only answer I 
get. I want slick, fast, and some interface intelligence performed by the 
software. I use a large monitor, most programs are very tiny and hard to read 
the text, I beleive sw should be able to adjust it self to the enviroment it 
is in. Silly me . Any suggestions are appreciated.

cheers
-- 
Rick Sivernell
Dallas, Texas  75287
972 306-2296
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1
Registered Linux User

        .~.
       / v \
      /( _ )\
        ^ ^
In Linux we trust!
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



Re: gcc v3 embargo

2001-09-30 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| 
| --- Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > In konq, do a gg:libgcc to explore further (as if you didn't know
| > that.)
| 
| Sorry, no KDE here of any kind.  So, i don't already know that.  Is
| there a non-KDE specific way to get that info?

Sorry, in Konq 'gg:' is shorthand for doing a Google search.

In other browsers, go wo www.google.com and do a search on libgcc.

-- 
=
Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OPQ Systems AB   WWW:   http://www.opq.se
Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43  Phone:   Int + 46 8 314223 
115 32 Stockholm  Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657
Sweden   Fax:   Int + 46 8 302602
___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users



RE: [SLE] Tomcat ?? Where to get it

2001-09-30 Thread Jostein Berntsen

Hi,

Tomcat is part of the Jakarta project:

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/

Jostein


>= Original Message From <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Hi All,
>
>I have to learn how to use a Java based web portal that will run on most web
>servers.  To run on Linux it needs to have Java on Apache, I have been
>advised that it is better to use something called Tomcat.  Could someone
>please direct me to where I can find out some more information on Tomcat.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>Shane Broomhall
>
>Brisbane Australia
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>--
>To unsubscribe send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>For additional commands send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the
>archives at http://lists.suse.com


___
http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc 
->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users