Re: Volume Down?

2001-11-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Net Llama wrote:
> Well, there's LWN.  THere used to be mailing lists that advertised the
> existence of other mailing lists.  You could drop posts into various
> Linux NGs.

We could also be crass and post on caldera-users. :-)

What about an announcement on c.o.l.a?

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SMART-N-FRIENDLY warning...

2001-11-18 Thread Jerry McBride

Those of you that read my post about being able to buy SCSI Smart-n-Friendly
2006+ cd writers from www.justdeals.com... beware. They are now shipping the
drives without the required cd-caddy. They also dropped the price to $17.95.

So... it's still a CHEAP scsi cdr solution, but requires that you locate a
cd-caddy if
you don't already have them...



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Re: Les Bell... ? [was: Re: apm install error]

2001-11-18 Thread Collins Richey

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:09:52 +1130 Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Monday 12 November 2001 17:24, Zoran Grbic-Mailinglist account
> wrote:
> 
> > *** Slight change of subject just to aks you about Les. Do you
> know what
> > he's up to? Haven't heard of him ever since the Caldera debacle...
> 
> He's heavily committed to IBM and (last heard) lost a fair deal of
> money 
> owing from deals he had set up with the old Caldera. I stay in
> monthly 
> contact with him but afaik he dropped all committments to all/most?
> Linux 
> lists. What we call over here: spitting the Dummy.
> 

Ah yes, one of the proudest moments for Caldera was the decision to
screw over loyal distributors like Les.  Just one of the reasons that
I don't think about Caldera even twice in the average month!

I wish Les all the best.

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Re: Rpm dependency issue

2001-11-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Philip J. Koenig wrote:

[snip]

> OK, I had tried that too, didn't see anything particularly 
> illuminating, but maybe you can - the output is below.
> 
> BTW, how can I extract the files from the .rpm file manually, so I 
> can take a look at what it's looking for, etc?  I don't see an rpm 
> command to do that, and midnight commander's rpm "virtual filesystem" 
> doesn't seem to 'see' those kinds of things.

$ rpm -q your.rpm --scripts

might help.

The "alien" and "rpm2tgz" packages allow to you dissect RPMs soemwhat.

You can also use rpm2cpio to extract the cpio archive, and then use
cpio to unpack the RPM.

> One other thing: kpackage from wkstn 3.1 seems to reliably crash if I 
> open an rpm file and then try clicking on it in the left-hand 
> "PACKAGES" window after it's been opened. (therefore the right-hand 
> panel is always empty)

Perchance not to use kpackage, then?

> D: Signature size: 149
> D: Signature pad : 3
> D: sigsize : 152
> D: Header + Archive: 644097
> D: expected size   : 644097
> D: opening database mode 0x0 in /var/lib/rpm
> D: found 0 source and 1 binary packages
> D:   YESA perl = 5.6.0-4B perl = 5.6.0
> D:  requires: perl = 5.6.0 satisfied by db packages.
> D:  requires: /etc/cron.d  unsatisfied.

Hmm. install's -d option will force the creation of the desired
directory. I'm guessing the Makefile has something hardcoded that's
causing this to break.

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Re: Les Bell... ? [was: Re: apm install error]

2001-11-18 Thread burns

On November 18, 2001 10:14 am, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:09:52 +1130 Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > On Monday 12 November 2001 17:24, Zoran Grbic-Mailinglist account
> >
> > wrote:
> > > *** Slight change of subject just to aks you about Les. Do you
> >
> > know what
> >
> > > he's up to? Haven't heard of him ever since the Caldera debacle...
> >
> > He's heavily committed to IBM and (last heard) lost a fair deal of
> > money
> > owing from deals he had set up with the old Caldera. I stay in
> > monthly
> > contact with him but afaik he dropped all committments to all/most?
> > Linux
> > lists. What we call over here: spitting the Dummy.
>
> Ah yes, one of the proudest moments for Caldera was the decision to
> screw over loyal distributors like Les.  Just one of the reasons that
> I don't think about Caldera even twice in the average month!
>

And Caldera's doing so well as a result (not)

> I wish Les all the best.

Me too. 
He'll do OK with the blue juggernaut... it's Linux strategy and 
cross-platform leverage seems to be paying off.
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Re: SMART-N-FRIENDLY warning...

2001-11-18 Thread stayler

I have alot of extra caddys laying around.  If your guys need a few I
would be will to send them off for the cost of postage.  Ther are new
as far as I know and still in their foam wrapper...

stayler

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:09:57 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:

>Those of you that read my post about being able to buy SCSI Smart-n-Friendly
>2006+ cd writers from www.justdeals.com... beware. They are now shipping the
>drives without the required cd-caddy. They also dropped the price to $17.95.
>
>So... it's still a CHEAP scsi cdr solution, but requires that you locate a
>cd-caddy if
>you don't already have them...

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Re: hdparm gem

2001-11-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> #!/bin/sh
# -q  = disable output unless an error occurs
# -d1 = use DMA
# -m8 = read/write 8 sectors per I/O request
# -u1 = unmask other interrupts during disk interrupt processing,
#   improving overall system responsiveness on IDE-based systems
# -W1 = Enable IDE write-behind caching
> for d in /proc/ide/hd*
> do
>  if [ `cat $d/media` = 'disk' ] ; then
> hdparm -qm8 -qu1 -qd1 -qW1 /dev/${d##*/}
>   fi
>   if [ `cat $d/media` = 'cdrom' ] ; then
> 
> hdparm -qu1 -qd1 /dev/${d##*/}
>   fi
> done


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Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Susan Macchia

I was running the full version (evaulation copy) and used the wizard to create
the vm.  4G disk (which I could change, but left it).

Regarding the com ports, I find that have to uninstall/re-install them after
powering them down.  Wierd.  I can live w/ it for a while since I don't use it
to sync my palm or download from my camera very often.  At some point I will
have to figure out what the issue is and determine if its a bug or what.

Regarding your writer (and mine).  I went to the vmware website and found that
they don't support burners, but treat them as readers only.  I can see both my
reader (/dev/hdc) and my writer (/dev/ttyS0).  The writer is scsi emulated, but
both are really ide.  

I still haven't decided whether to fork up the $ for the full version or to go
with the express, since I may not need win2k.  But I do think that I am going
to give up on Win4Lin...


Keith Antoine wrote:

> On Sunday 18 November 2001 08:03, Susan Macchia enunciated:
> > Regarding the disk it built, I didn't have to do a thing - it created a 4G
> > disk and formatted it when I created the virtual machine.
> >
> > Just got my com port working so I can sync with my palm and the Daytimer
> > Addressbook.  I usually use Jpilot and pilot-xfer, but need to keep the
> > address book up to date (expecially for those xmas cards!)
> >
> > Bruce Marshall wrote:
> > > On Saturday 17 November 2001 9:21 am, Susan Macchia wrote:
> > >>  Again, even with these limitations, the fact that it runs without
> > >> booting into a specialized kernel is a plus to me.  Not that I have time
> > >> to roll my own, but I want to be able to play without having to worry
> > >> that I can't run my critical window's apps.
> > >
> > > I'm curious as to what type of VMW disk you built and whether you had to
> > > format it.
> > >
> > > I was using 2.0.4 and had one of their special 'plain' disks and I don't
> > > ever recall having to partition or format it.  It was 4GB in size.
> > >
> > > Now, moving to 3.0, I built a new 'virtual' disk of 4.4GB and had to
> > > partition and format it before it was visible to VMW.  Didn't think that
> > > would be necessary.  But I was blown away by being able to run Partition
> > > Magic (virtually) to partition it.  Worked flawlessly by booting the PM
> > > diskettes.
>
> Is Susan, running the full version or ? For yes, I also had to create thefs
> and format. I also in 2.x could only get a vm of 2gig and only in 3.0 have I
> had it bigger 4gig default.


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Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Susan Macchia


> Regarding your writer (and mine).  I went to the vmware website and 
> found that they don't support burners, but treat them as readers only.  
> I can see both my reader (/dev/hdc) and my writer (/dev/ttyS0).  The 
> writer is scsi emulated, but both are really ide.  


OOPS neant that the write is /dev/sr0 not ttyS0.  Sorry for the typo!

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Re: kwintv and xawtv not working

2001-11-18 Thread Mike Andrew

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:28, Keith Antoine wrote:

> > > > > /lib/modules/2.4.10-4GB/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv.o:
> > > > > unresolved symbol i2c_master_send_R933abeec

with i2c, you are looking for (some) of the following

/i2c-philips-par.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-algo-bit.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-algo-pcf.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-ali15x3.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-amd756.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-dev.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elektor.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elv.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-hydra.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-i801.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-i810.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-isa.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-velleman.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-piix4.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-viapro.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-via.o
/lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-voodoo3.o


It is possible that the distro-release did not supply some or all of them.

do a 'depmod -a' to establish that /lib/modules/2.4.10-4GB is in fact intact.

The above error message comes frome either no i2c file at all, or, an 
incompatible version eg you're using something from an earlier kernel

---

> Module  Size  Used by
> mod_quickcam   28000   0  (unused)
> videodev4544   1  [mod_quickcam]

do you in fact have a logitech quickcam? It is swallowing /dev/video0 and 
_could_ cause trouble.

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Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Mike Andrew


> > On Saturday 17 November 2001 07:50, Jason Joines enunciated:
> > >  I compiled a 2.4.10 kernel from kernel.org source with XFS
> > > filesystem patches from SGI.  When I boot the machine, I get the
> > > graphical chooser that allows me pick a kernel to boot.  If I boot the
> > > 2.4.10 SuSE kernel, all works as expected.  If I boot the 2.4.10 XFS
> > > kernel, output to the monitor disappears just as soon as I select that
> > > kernel.  Everything is still running as I can SSH into the box, run X

[snip]

have a nose around alt-F10,11,12 or somesuch. Like Caldera, Suse split 
message streams to alternative virtual consoles during booting along the 
lines of >>&10

If you don't like that behaviour, you should be able to cripple it within the 
/etc/rc.whatever scripts.

However, my money would be on lack of frame buffering. When you compiled your 
pristine kernel, you disabled that feature.

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System.map

2001-11-18 Thread Mike Andrew

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 03:01, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
>
> copy it to /boot and append the kernel version to it..
> i.e /boot/System.map-2.4.14

My current 'method' is a permanent

cd /boot
rm System.map
ln -s /usr/src/linux/System.map System.map

this assumes that /usr/src/linux is itself a symlink to the current kernel 
(not always the case).

there was a post sometime earlier that if you had a series of 

/boot/System.map-2.4.xx's

the kernel would  'discover' for itself which one to use. Is this correct? 
David Bandel mentions the klogd daemon starting early in the boot scripts. Is 
the name 'System.map' with no extensions a necessity for some other, obscure, 
applications?

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Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread Mike Andrew

I have both a burner, and a normal cd-rom.  The software I'm using needs to 
see both of these devices as scsi to do cd -> cd copying. Does anyone know 
how to massage /dev/hdc and /dev/hdb BOTH as scsi? as in 
append="hdb=ide-scsi" 


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Re: Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread R. Quenett

from Mike Andrew:

" I have both a burner, and a normal cd-rom.  The software I'm using needs to 
" see both of these devices as scsi to do cd -> cd copying. Does anyone know 
" how to massage /dev/hdc and /dev/hdb BOTH as scsi? as in 
" append="hdb=ide-scsi" 

I'm just guessing, and you're aware of how little I know about linux. 
However, if I were doing this, I'd recompile my kernel, as I recall 
you're using 2.4.13 or some such, _without_ the native atapi support 
and with the scsi emulation support and then do append="hdb=ide-scsi 
hdc=ide-scsi" or some such.  When I was doing something like this. for
a lfs system, I also had to make the sr0,sr1 devices, iirc, and only
then did dmesg show correct device assignments on boot.

mebbe I'm way way way off base, tho...

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Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Keith Antoine

On Monday 19 November 2001 02:54, Susan Macchia enunciated:
> I was running the full version (evaulation copy) and used the wizard to
> create the vm.  4G disk (which I could change, but left it).

The nice part about it is that although you created a 4gig file its only 
takes on the size of the loaded files, elastic partitioning . Yes I left 
it at 4gig too as I am almost at the stage whereby I seldom use it.
Know of any good linux rippers (mpeg) and anything to take the place of
FlaskMpeg ?

> Regarding the com ports, I find that have to uninstall/re-install them
> after powering them down.  Wierd.  I can live w/ it for a while since I
> don't use it to sync my palm or download from my camera very often.  At
> some point I will have to figure out what the issue is and determine if its
> a bug or what.

Now thats is wierd, as I am on cable it sees out on the net and also ses the 
local files on linux on boot. I used to use it with early version 2.0 with a 
modem, it was fine.

> Regarding your writer (and mine).  I went to the vmware website and found
> that they don't support burners, but treat them as readers only.  I can see
> both my reader (/dev/hdc) and my writer (/dev/ttyS0).  The writer is scsi
> emulated, but both are really ide.

Well thyey are really Atapi-Scsi to start off with not really ide, however I
thought that , that would be the case. I can burn on Suse but I do like Nero 
and burning VCD's is in its infancy with linux but doable (all command line)

> I still haven't decided whether to fork up the $ for the full version or to
> go with the express, since I may not need win2k.  But I do think that I am
> going to give up on Win4Lin...

Did you miss out on the $89.00 special offer some months ago; yes I agree on 
win4lin, its to messy and no where as professional to vmware. BTW did you 
donload the full manual in pdf format ? quite extensive..

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Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Keith Antoine

On Monday 19 November 2001 03:07, Susan Macchia enunciated:
> > Regarding your writer (and mine).  I went to the vmware website and
> > found that they don't support burners, but treat them as readers only.
> > I can see both my reader (/dev/hdc) and my writer (/dev/ttyS0).  The
> > writer is scsi emulated, but both are really ide.
>
> OOPS neant that the write is /dev/sr0 not ttyS0.  Sorry for the typo!

Noticed it but as a matter of Gallantry, ignored it. Typical Oz bloke, took a 
leaf out of Kurt's book

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Re: kwintv and xawtv not working

2001-11-18 Thread Keith Antoine

On Monday 19 November 2001 02:39, Mike Andrew enunciated:

> with i2c, you are looking for (some) of the following
> 
> /i2c-philips-par.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-algo-bit.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-algo-pcf.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-ali15x3.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-amd756.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-dev.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elektor.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-elv.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-hydra.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-i801.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-i810.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-isa.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-velleman.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-piix4.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-viapro.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-via.o
> /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-voodoo3.o
> 
>
> It is possible that the distro-release did not supply some or all of them.

I must admit I have had problems with this version of Suse 7.3

> do a 'depmod -a' to establish that /lib/modules/2.4.10-4GB is in fact
> intact.

First thing I did on re-install was depmod -a, did not get any return 
messages so assumed all was fine.

> The above error message comes frome either no i2c file at all, or, an
> incompatible version eg you're using something from an earlier kernel

I have installed twice now with exactly the same results, so there _should 
not_ be any earlier kernel 'bits' laying around.

> ---
>
> > Module  Size  Used by
> > mod_quickcam   28000   0  (unused)
> > videodev4544   1  [mod_quickcam]
>
> do you in fact have a logitech quickcam? It is swallowing /dev/video0 and
> _could_ cause trouble.

Yes thats correct so, you suggest that I unplug this from the usb bus? Now 
I'll try that but, that would be wierd, in earlier version the tv card worked 
and I had trouble with the logitech. Um..

Sorry about the size but here is dmesg, nothing re bttv card at all ?

BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 17ff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 17ff - 17ff3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 17ff3000 - 1800 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820:  - 0001 (reserved)
On node 0 totalpages: 98288
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 94192 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Found and enabled local APIC!
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=30a 
BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz enableapic vga=0x0317 hdd=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 1396.064 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 2785.28 BogoMIPS
Memory: 383916k/393152k available (1289k kernel code, 8848k reserved, 381k 
data, 124k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183fbff c1c7fbff , vendor = 2
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183fbff c1c7fbff  
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183fbff c1c7fbff  
CPU: Common caps: 0183fbff c1c7fbff  
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) processor stepping 04
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 
ESR value after enabling vector: 
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
. CPU clock speed is 1396.0791 MHz.
. host bus clock speed is 265.9196 MHz.
cpu: 0, clocks: 2659196, slice: 1329598
CPU0
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
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PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent
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Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Keith Antoine

On Monday 19 November 2001 02:52, Mike Andrew enunciated:

> have a nose around alt-F10,11,12 or somesuch. Like Caldera, Suse split
> message streams to alternative virtual consoles during booting along the
> lines of >>&10
>
> If you don't like that behaviour, you should be able to cripple it within
> the /etc/rc.whatever scripts.
>
> However, my money would be on lack of frame buffering. When you compiled
> your pristine kernel, you disabled that feature.

Mike

As I said I have had some peculiar results with Suse 7.3 and also the same 
problem, over the past few days I have compiled 2.4.10, 2.4.12, and 14. I did 
these with and without framebuffers (kernel errord out with framebuffers 
included in 14), the results were the same with all compiles. No text to 
secreen and in some cases no boot at all. This was all done for the bttv card 
to see if it was a kernel problem. One thing I will say I _could_ not compile 
sucessfully 2.4.14. had a problem in config_drivers_block 
that I could not remedy. Not for want of fiddling, for as you know I do have 
time to do that.

It would appear to me that Suse does not like recompiled kernels or there is 
a special way to do this...However they do warn in the manuals 
against doing vanilla recompiles. 

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Re: Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread Keith Antoine

On Monday 19 November 2001 03:13, Mike Andrew enunciated:
> I have both a burner, and a normal cd-rom.  The software I'm using needs to
> see both of these devices as scsi to do cd -> cd copying. Does anyone know
> how to massage /dev/hdc and /dev/hdb BOTH as scsi? as in
> append="hdb=ide-scsi"

I have both devices as scsi. 
Rule #1 the devices _must_ be on seperate ide buses usually as slaves to the 
hd's to do DAO.

In lilo append this is mine: 
append = "enableapic vga=0x0317 hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi"

/etc/fstab:
/dev/sr0 /dvd iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0
/dev/sr1 /cdrw iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0

As you can see I aslo created /dvd and /cdrw

in Suse it seems to like scd0 and scd1

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Re: Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:43:55 +1130
Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have both a burner, and a normal cd-rom.  The software I'm using
needs to 
> see both of these devices as scsi to do cd -> cd copying. Does anyone
know 
> how to massage /dev/hdc and /dev/hdb BOTH as scsi? as in 
> append="hdb=ide-scsi" 

I have an LG re-writeable burner and a DVD which is seen but not
appended in my lilo.conf, the burner is hdc and the dvd is hdd:

image=/vmlinuz
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append="hdc=ide-scsi"

/dev/sr0  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto   
noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0

(using RH 7.2)

I can mount either or both drives via cli or gui but haven't got the DVD
working as anything but a normal cdrom (yet).

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RE: Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread kbb0927

I have given up on wn4lin as a longtime loyal user and have gone with
VMware Express. Netraverse seemed to have gone after RH and MDK and as
for SuSE, they always seem to lag behind. They even seem to stay more
current for TurboLinux. I went with SuSE after COL 2.4, even though I
looked @ RH7.1, MDK8 and MDK8.1 beta, SuSE seemed easier to transition
to as a somewhat newbie. I have VMware express running with 96MB on a 
126 MB laptop and 160 MB on a 256 MB desktop. N problems, although
you will need to do a work around for any kernel > 2.4.7-4GB, BUT, you
do not have to recompile your kernel to use it.

Best Regards,

Keith B.

Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I was running the full version (evaulation copy) and used the wizard to create
>the vm.  4G disk (which I could change, but left it).
>
>Regarding the com ports, I find that have to uninstall/re-install them after
>powering them down.  Wierd.  I can live w/ it for a while since I don't use it
>to sync my palm or download from my camera very often.  At some point I will
>have to figure out what the issue is and determine if its a bug or what.
>
>Regarding your writer (and mine).  I went to the vmware website and found that
>they don't support burners, but treat them as readers only.  I can see both my
>reader (/dev/hdc) and my writer (/dev/ttyS0).  The writer is scsi emulated, but
>both are really ide.  
>
>I still haven't decided whether to fork up the $ for the full version or to go
>with the express, since I may not need win2k.  But I do think that I am going
>to give up on Win4Lin...
>
>
>Keith Antoine wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 18 November 2001 08:03, Susan Macchia enunciated:
>> > Regarding the disk it built, I didn't have to do a thing - it created a 4G
>> > disk and formatted it when I created the virtual machine.
>> >
>> > Just got my com port working so I can sync with my palm and the Daytimer
>> > Addressbook.  I usually use Jpilot and pilot-xfer, but need to keep the
>> > address book up to date (expecially for those xmas cards!)
>> >
>> > Bruce Marshall wrote:
>> > > On Saturday 17 November 2001 9:21 am, Susan Macchia wrote:
>> > >>  Again, even with these limitations, the fact that it runs without
>> > >> booting into a specialized kernel is a plus to me.  Not that I have time
>> > >> to roll my own, but I want to be able to play without having to worry
>> > >> that I can't run my critical window's apps.
>> > >
>> > > I'm curious as to what type of VMW disk you built and whether you had to
>> > > format it.
>> > >
>> > > I was using 2.0.4 and had one of their special 'plain' disks and I don't
>> > > ever recall having to partition or format it.  It was 4GB in size.
>> > >
>> > > Now, moving to 3.0, I built a new 'virtual' disk of 4.4GB and had to
>> > > partition and format it before it was visible to VMW.  Didn't think that
>> > > would be necessary.  But I was blown away by being able to run Partition
>> > > Magic (virtually) to partition it.  Worked flawlessly by booting the PM
>> > > diskettes.
>>
>> Is Susan, running the full version or ? For yes, I also had to create thefs
>> and format. I also in 2.x could only get a vm of 2gig and only in 3.0 have I
>> had it bigger 4gig default.
>
>
>=
>_
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Re: Volume Down?

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Kurt Wall babbled on about:
> Net Llama wrote:
> > Well, there's LWN.  THere used to be mailing lists that advertised the
> > existence of other mailing lists.  You could drop posts into various
> > Linux NGs.
>
> We could also be crass and post on caldera-users. :-)
>
> What about an announcement on c.o.l.a?
>
> Kurt

submitted. waiting for it to drop ;)
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Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
> Ah, man after my own heart, Bruce! but I will admit to having just had a
> problem getting back up after installing a 2.4.12 kernel, 2.4.14 would NOT
> compile without an error in the block-drivers-block. lo_scan no matter what

use the attached patch to make 2.4.14 compile
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diff -X /home/chris/dontdiff -Naur linux-2.4.14/drivers/block/loop.c linux-2.4.14-loop/drivers/block/loop.c
--- linux-2.4.14/drivers/block/loop.c	Thu Oct 25 13:58:34 2001
+++ linux-2.4.14-loop/drivers/block/loop.c	Mon Nov  5 17:06:08 2001
@@ -207,7 +207,6 @@
 		index++;
 		pos += size;
 		UnlockPage(page);
-		deactivate_page(page);
 		page_cache_release(page);
 	}
 	return 0;
@@ -218,7 +217,6 @@
 	kunmap(page);
 unlock:
 	UnlockPage(page);
-	deactivate_page(page);
 	page_cache_release(page);
 fail:
 	return -1;



Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
> lilo, geez I hate that 'lilo', grub is not a selection in Suse. Its taken

grub can be installed from source easily enough. no need to use lilo. 
however, SuSE uses a funky video mode in their kernel, and a patched version 
of lilo to get the pretty boot-up stuff. but you can live without all that. I 
do.

> me about 5 hrs to get back in. What significance does initrd have in suse,
> can it be ignored or is it 'needed'... Are there any caveats

I don't use initrd for any of my kernels (custom compiled from source0.

> BTW I am using 7.3 and there are differences with it and 7.2

many, I've heard
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Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
> As I said I have had some peculiar results with Suse 7.3 and also the same
> problem, over the past few days I have compiled 2.4.10, 2.4.12, and 14. I
> did these with and without framebuffers (kernel errord out with
> framebuffers included in 14), the results were the same with all compiles.
> No text to secreen and in some cases no boot at all. This was all done for
> the bttv card to see if it was a kernel problem. One thing I will say I
> _could_ not compile sucessfully 2.4.14. had a problem
> in config_drivers_block that I could not remedy. Not for want of fiddling,
> for as you know I do have time to do that.

see the patch on my other post

>
> It would appear to me that Suse does not like recompiled kernels or there
> is a special way to do this...However they do warn in the
> manuals against doing vanilla recompiles.

you can do exactly what you want. I do it all the time. you just have to 
forgo the SuSE version of lilo and the kernel and do without the graphics. 
ping me offlist and we'll beat on this one Skip..

BTW, the only reason SuSE is so down on the vanilla kernels is cause their 
kernels contain patches that aren't in Linus kernel (the IDE patches comes to 
mind). They just don't want to deal with "when I installed it, it saw my 
device xxx, now it don't" questions. They had reiserfs before it was in the 
main kernel too, IIRC.

SuSE really does a *lot* of value-add distro stuff. That can either be a 
blessing, or a curse.. 
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Re: System.map

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Mike Andrew babbled on about:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 03:01, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> > copy it to /boot and append the kernel version to it..
> > i.e /boot/System.map-2.4.14
>
> My current 'method' is a permanent
>
> cd /boot
> rm System.map
> ln -s /usr/src/linux/System.map System.map
>
> this assumes that /usr/src/linux is itself a symlink to the current kernel
> (not always the case).
>
> there was a post sometime earlier that if you had a series of
>
> /boot/System.map-2.4.xx's
>
> the kernel would  'discover' for itself which one to use. Is this correct?
> David Bandel mentions the klogd daemon starting early in the boot scripts.
> Is the name 'System.map' with no extensions a necessity for some other,
> obscure, applications?

your  method should work fine. IIRC, the kernel looks for System.map-`uname 
-r` first and then System.map (first in /boot, then in /usr/src/linux
You can mdify this by playing with the klogd command line options in 
/etc/rc.d as David stated. the only other thing that uses the System.map file 
is a kernel debugger, or ksymoops (which decodes a kernel panic). And they 
should follow the same kernel conventions (above).

In reality, you can run without a System.map without any significant adverse 
affects.
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Re: Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

R. Quenett babbled on about:
> I'm just guessing, and you're aware of how little I know about linux.
> However, if I were doing this, I'd recompile my kernel, as I recall
> you're using 2.4.13 or some such, _without_ the native atapi support
> and with the scsi emulation support and then do append="hdb=ide-scsi

if you don't compile the native atapi, the drives will be ide-scsi by 
default, IIRC


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Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas

2001-11-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Hello, list,

I'm finishing up a chapter for an unspecified book on Red Hat Linux
and you have the opportunity to contribute. In particular, if you ran
into problems either installing or configuring a stock installation
of 7.2 (or, perchance, one of the pre-7.2 betas), tell me what it is
and I may be able to add it to a chapter on troubleshooting and
problem solving. If you do so and it makes it into the chapter, you
will have both my gratitude and a mention in the acknowledgements.
Ayup...

Thanks,

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Re: Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread R. Quenett

from Douglas J Hunley:

" if you don't compile the native atapi, the drives will be ide-scsi by
" default, IIRC

Would this be a Bad Thing(tm)?

I find the kernel config help for config_blk_dev_idescsi (as well as 
a long list of other things;) a tad confusing but it includes two 
comments which seemed relevant (misquoted below)

...you must then provide the kernel command line "hdx=scsi"...

(hmm, funnily enough, it doesn't say hdx=ide-scsi if I read it right) 
and

...if both this and the native atapi are compiled in, the native will 
be used...

Is this what you said?

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Re: SMART-N-FRIENDLY warning...

2001-11-18 Thread Bill Day

Stayler.. i would be interested in getting one of dem   8^)

Contact me off list or so for where to send the postage/shipping too.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thnx

On Sunday 18 November 2001 10:33, you were heard blurting out:
> I have alot of extra caddys laying around.  If your guys need a few I
> would be will to send them off for the cost of postage.  Ther are new
> as far as I know and still in their foam wrapper...
>
> stayler
>
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:09:57 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
> >Those of you that read my post about being able to buy SCSI
> > Smart-n-Friendly 2006+ cd writers from www.justdeals.com... beware. They
> > are now shipping the drives without the required cd-caddy. They also
> > dropped the price to $17.95.
> >
> >So... it's still a CHEAP scsi cdr solution, but requires that you locate a
> >cd-caddy if
> >you don't already have them...
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Re: SMART-N-FRIENDLY warning...

2001-11-18 Thread Bill Day

Hey Jerry, any gotchas on the S-n-F 2006 + scsi drive... other than the case..

Such as kernel... something else...?

Im still running a stock kernel of 2.2.14 on my workhorse here... and just 
basically want the S-n-M 2006 + for a 'backup' drive.

Thanks for the info.

On Sunday 18 November 2001 10:09, you were heard blurting out:
> Those of you that read my post about being able to buy SCSI
> Smart-n-Friendly 2006+ cd writers from www.justdeals.com... beware. They
> are now shipping the drives without the required cd-caddy. They also
> dropped the price to $17.95.
>
> So... it's still a CHEAP scsi cdr solution, but requires that you locate a
> cd-caddy if
> you don't already have them...

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Re: Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas

2001-11-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:16:56 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello, list,
> 
> I'm finishing up a chapter for an unspecified book on Red Hat Linux
> and you have the opportunity to contribute. In particular, if you ran
> into problems either installing or configuring a stock installation
> of 7.2 (or, perchance, one of the pre-7.2 betas), tell me what it is
> and I may be able to add it to a chapter on troubleshooting and
> problem solving. If you do so and it makes it into the chapter, you
> will have both my gratitude and a mention in the acknowledgements.
=
Kurt,
I recently installed RH 7.2 on a sony Vaio laptop (FX340).  I'm afraid I
had no problems, thus none to share.  Absolutely everything worked right
out of the box, NIC, video, audio, CD (burner and DVD, though I haven't
tried in that mode yet).  
Suggestion:  Have you tried posting a similar request to the RedHat
list??  Or perhaps a scan of their archives??  I recently joined the list
and it appears to be fairly active.  I'm sure you'd get some hits.
Just my US$0.02,
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Re: SMART-N-FRIENDLY warning...

2001-11-18 Thread Jerry McBride

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:24:13 -0500
Bill Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Jerry, any gotchas on the S-n-F 2006 + scsi drive... other than the
> case..
> 

None. It's your typical, old scsi cdr reader/writer.



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Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Keith Antoine

On Monday 19 November 2001 08:55, Douglas J Hunley enunciated:

> grub can be installed from source easily enough. no need to use lilo.
> however, SuSE uses a funky video mode in their kernel, and a patched
> version of lilo to get the pretty boot-up stuff. but you can live without
> all that. I do.

Thanks for the patch. I presume that re the video you are talking the boot 
"Ubeaut" screens and not the normal video modes that are used after boot.

> > me about 5 hrs to get back in. What significance does initrd have in
> > suse, can it be ignored or is it 'needed'... Are there any
> > caveats
>
> I don't use initrd for any of my kernels (custom compiled from source0.

Fine, looks like its a 7.3 problem then, maybe

> > BTW I am using 7.3 and there are differences with it and 7.2
>
> many, I've heard

I am getting disenchanted with suse, more and more, vmware cannot use sound 
as dsp is busy, xine, mtv have no sound whilst vlc does have a very muted 
sound on dvd and vcd playback.

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Linux box and ICS

2001-11-18 Thread Midnight



I have a RH linux box connected to a Win98se box 
via a LAN.  Question is, how do I connect to the internet via the ICS on 
the Windows box?
 
 


Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Susan Macchia

Keith Antione wrote:
> On Monday 19 November 2001 02:54, Susan Macchia enunciated:
> > I was running the full version (evaulation copy) and used the wizard to
> > create the vm.  4G disk (which I could change, but left it).
>
> The nice part about it is that although you created a 4gig file its only
> takes on the size of the loaded files, elastic partitioning . Yes I left
> it at 4gig too as I am almost at the stage whereby I seldom use it.
> Know of any good linux rippers (mpeg) and anything to take the place of
> FlaskMpeg ?

Nope - haven't fooled around with mpeg files yet.

>
> > Regarding the com ports, I find that have to uninstall/re-install them
> > after powering them down.  Wierd.  I can live w/ it for a while since I
> > don't use it to sync my palm or download from my camera very often.  At
> > some point I will have to figure out what the issue is and determine if its
> > a bug or what.
>
> Now thats is wierd, as I am on cable it sees out on the net and also ses the
> local files on linux on boot. I used to use it with early version 2.0 with a
> modem, it was fine.

Well, I have a cable modem, but use the serial port to sync my palm and for my
camera.  On windows, only use it for the palm when I need to update the
Daytimer addressbook.  I checked permissions on /dev/ttyS0 and they were ok. 
So at some point I'll have to figure out whats happenin' here.

>
> > Regarding your writer (and mine).  I went to the vmware website and found
> > that they don't support burners, but treat them as readers only.  I can see
> > both my reader (/dev/hdc) and my writer (/dev/ttyS0).  The writer is scsi
> > emulated, but both are really ide.
>
> Well thyey are really Atapi-Scsi to start off with not really ide, however I
> thought that , that would be the case. I can burn on Suse but I do like Nero
> and burning VCD's is in its infancy with linux but doable (all command line)
>
> > I still haven't decided whether to fork up the $ for the full version or to
> > go with the express, since I may not need win2k.  But I do think that I am
> > going to give up on Win4Lin...
>
> Did you miss out on the $89.00 special offer some months ago; yes I agree on
> win4lin, its to messy and no where as professional to vmware. BTW did you
> donload the full manual in pdf format ? quite extensive..

Bummer, I missed it.  I was running RH 7.0 with win4lin so didn't need to try
anything else until my switch to SuSE.  Don't think I'll go back though.  It
would be nice if they had a single user single instance license of 3.0 like the
2.0 express.  I'd really like to keep win2k because I need to use Word for the
occasions when my boss ships me an Office2k .doc file that I need to read or
update (like our software project plan).  


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RE: Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Susan Macchia

I am still evaluating VMware 3.0, but want to probably go with express.  Since
I am running 2.4.10 kernel (SuSE 7.3), what kind of "work around" might I have
to do?  I'd like to know before I fork up the dough.

TIA

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> I have given up on wn4lin as a longtime loyal user and have gone with
> VMware Express. Netraverse seemed to have gone after RH and MDK and as
> for SuSE, they always seem to lag behind. They even seem to stay more
> current for TurboLinux. I went with SuSE after COL 2.4, even though I
> looked @ RH7.1, MDK8 and MDK8.1 beta, SuSE seemed easier to transition
> to as a somewhat newbie. I have VMware express running with 96MB on a
> 126 MB laptop and 160 MB on a 256 MB desktop. N problems, although
> you will need to do a work around for any kernel > 2.4.7-4GB, BUT, you
> do not have to recompile your kernel to use it.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Keith B.


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Re: Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

R. Quenett babbled on about:
> Would this be a Bad Thing(tm)?

nope. the latest ATAPI is darn near SCSI anyway

> ...you must then provide the kernel command line "hdx=scsi"...

interesting. wonder if works like that or if it's a typo

> ...if both this and the native atapi are compiled in, the native will
> be used...
>
> Is this what you said?

yep. if native is compiled in, it gets priority. if it's not, scsi should get 
priority
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Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Sunday 18 November 2001 22:13 pm, Susan Macchia wrote:
> > Did you miss out on the $89.00 special offer some months ago; yes I agree
> > on win4lin, its to messy and no where as professional to vmware. BTW did
> > you donload the full manual in pdf format ? quite extensive..
>
> Bummer, I missed it.  I was running RH 7.0 with win4lin so didn't need to
> try anything else until my switch to SuSE.  Don't think I'll go back
> though.  It would be nice if they had a single user single instance license
> of 3.0 like the 2.0 express.  I'd really like to keep win2k because I need
> to use Word for the occasions when my boss ships me an Office2k .doc file
> that I need to read or update (like our software project plan).

Not sure what the reference to the $89 deal is   the only $89 I am aware 
of is the $89 I spent to upgrade from VMWare 2.0.4 workstation to  3.0 
Workstation.   I think that offer is still on but since you don't own a copy 
of  workstation..



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Re: Linux box and ICS

2001-11-18 Thread David Aikema

On Sunday 18 November 2001 06:55 pm, Midnight wrote:
> I have a RH linux box connected to a Win98se box via a LAN.  Question is,
> how do I connect to the internet via the ICS on the Windows box?

Well... if you've got ICS up and running on the windows box all you should 
have to do is set the windows machine's ip as the gateway on the linux box.  

You'll also need to configure your dns servers... if ICS has any kind of dns 
forwarding/caching/whatever setup you can then just set the windows machine's 
ip as the dns server as well.  Alternatively, if that doesn't work, then you 
use the same dns servers as the windows box.  If you don't know these already 
they can be discovered by running winipcfg on the windows box and selecting 
the adaptor which you are using to connect to the internet.

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Re: Linux box and ICS

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Midnight babbled on about:
> I have a RH linux box connected to a Win98se box via a LAN.  Question is,
> how do I connect to the internet via the ICS on the Windows box?

Simply configure the RH box with a static ip (might I suggest 192.168.1.10) 
and then list the Win98 box as the default route. That should do it.

Does your win98 box have a DHCP address, or a static one? one ethernet card, 
or two?
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Re: Re: replacing win98

2001-11-18 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Sunday 18 November 2001 22:22 pm, Susan Macchia wrote:
> I am still evaluating VMware 3.0, but want to probably go with express.
>  Since I am running 2.4.10 kernel (SuSE 7.3), what kind of "work around"
> might I have to do?  I'd like to know before I fork up the dough.

No workaround should be needed for any version of VMWare at the 3.x level.

The work around mentioned was for people running 2.0.x versions of VMware 
when they wanted to run  2.4.7 or greater kernels.  A small piece of new 
source was needed and it was readily available.  I still have it but you 
shouldn't need it.   I'm running vanilla  2.4.14  with 3.0 workstation and it 
installs just fine.


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Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
> Thanks for the patch. I presume that re the video you are talking the boot
> "Ubeaut" screens and not the normal video modes that are used after boot.

yep.

> Fine, looks like its a 7.3 problem then, maybe

have to admit I didn't follow the initrd part of this thread closely... so I 
won't comment on it.

> I am getting disenchanted with suse, more and more, vmware cannot use sound
> as dsp is busy, xine, mtv have no sound whilst vlc does have a very muted
> sound on dvd and vcd playback.

'ere now mate. it's just different is all. the dsp issue is because of kde. 
it's artsd actually grabs (and blocks) /dev/dsp. then it multiplexes the 
device out to other apps. but they either need to be artsd aware, or they 
need to be called by an artsd-wrapper script. details are on the KDE list 
archives somewhere mate...

ping me privately and I'll see what we can get working for you. SuSE is nice 
once you understand how they do things and make it over that initial curve. 
I'm here to help push you up that curve if you want
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Re: Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas

2001-11-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Kurt Wall babbled on about:
> Hello, list,
>
> I'm finishing up a chapter for an unspecified book on Red Hat Linux
> and you have the opportunity to contribute. In particular, if you ran
> into problems either installing or configuring a stock installation
> of 7.2 (or, perchance, one of the pre-7.2 betas), tell me what it is
> and I may be able to add it to a chapter on troubleshooting and
> problem solving. If you do so and it makes it into the chapter, you
> will have both my gratitude and a mention in the acknowledgements.
> Ayup...

totally off-topic nitpick here Kurt, but could you "adjust" your alias for 
this list. I want to start getting away from that very "label" (re: refugees)

thanks
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XFCE...

2001-11-18 Thread Jerry McBride


I don't know if you guys caught this one... XFCE is up to 3.8.11
and available at sourceforge.
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Re: System.map

2001-11-18 Thread Net Llama


--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 03:01, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> >
> > copy it to /boot and append the kernel version to it..
> > i.e /boot/System.map-2.4.14
> 
> My current 'method' is a permanent
> 
> cd /boot
> rm System.map
> ln -s /usr/src/linux/System.map System.map
> 
> this assumes that /usr/src/linux is itself a symlink to the current
> kernel 
> (not always the case).
> 
> there was a post sometime earlier that if you had a series of 
> 
> /boot/System.map-2.4.xx's
> 
> the kernel would  'discover' for itself which one to use. Is this
> correct? 

yes.  this is how i've done it for quite some time without any problems.

> David Bandel mentions the klogd daemon starting early in the boot
> scripts. Is 
> the name 'System.map' with no extensions a necessity for some other,
> obscure, 
> applications?

none that i've used.

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Re: New Kernel, Now No Text Console, SuSE 7.3

2001-11-18 Thread Keith Antoine

On Monday 19 November 2001 13:35, Douglas J Hunley enunciated:

> > I am getting disenchanted with suse, more and more, vmware cannot use
> > sound as dsp is busy, xine, mtv have no sound whilst vlc does have a very
> > muted sound on dvd and vcd playback.
>
> 'ere now mate. it's just different is all. the dsp issue is because of kde.
> it's artsd actually grabs (and blocks) /dev/dsp. then it multiplexes the
> device out to other apps. but they either need to be artsd aware, or they
> need to be called by an artsd-wrapper script. details are on the KDE list
> archives somewhere mate...

Ok so that means I can get them working, but it is nontheless diconcerting to 
see what was something simple being stuffed up by non co-operation. Typical 
with linux tho! I'll go look at kde.org

> ping me privately and I'll see what we can get working for you. SuSE is
> nice once you understand how they do things and make it over that initial
> curve. I'm here to help push you up that curve if you want

I have just got to like Suse a bit better now that all of a sudden I have my 
TV card working. Unsure exactly what I fixed but!
I enabled pnp in bios and also unplugged the logitech usb web camera and 
moved the card to another slot.

However I am still in need of that push, but warn you I am a bit overweight 
and it might take a bit of effort. Thanks mate!

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Re: Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas

2001-11-18 Thread Zoran's mailinglist account

On Nov 18 Kurt Wall was heard saying:

->Hello, list,
->
->I'm finishing up a chapter for an unspecified book on Red Hat Linux
->and you have the opportunity to contribute. In particular, if you ran
->into problems either installing or configuring a stock installation
->of 7.2 (or, perchance, one of the pre-7.2 betas), tell me what it is


*** Two things that seem coming back :

1/ It still doesn't recognize a wheel mouse and thus doesn't configure the
mouse properly. The list of available mice is rather empty when doing a re
config with "mouseconfig" (the TUI utility).

2/ The up2date utility is still buggy - it keeps asking to register chez
RH even when it's done - and is a relatively big "nothing" compared to the
auto update feature of SuSE or Debian...

3/ The guy's at Red Hat have sometimes good idea's and do nice init
scripts, but for Christ's sake, can't they comment them a bit more!?

The latest example is /etc/sysconfig/harddisks. The file itself isn't very
talkative. Going to rc.sysinit.sysinit, doing a search for "hard" and figuring out
together with man what the entries mean is not a problem for me and others
who know RH...

Sometimes the scripts look like the maintainer started with loads of good
ideas but run out of time at the end. The file "harddisks" is again a good
example. Some entries should've been in the script by default. The guy's
at RH should check Mandrake's scripts and see if it gives them an idea.
Mandrake never worked for me but I liked their init scripts.

Zoran.

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