Re: ELX linux

2002-01-08 Thread rplummer

I thought it was a bit sluggish too. But not as sluggish as Mandrake 
8.1  Was running on AMD K6 2-500 with 256MB ram on its own HD.

Ray

On 8 Jan 2002, at 19:19, Ken Moffat wrote:

Date sent:  Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:19:11 -0800

> Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish? 
> (maybe it's because I have it about 40 gigs in to a 60 gig drive?)
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Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast:SOLVED, so far

2002-01-08 Thread Joel Hammer

Thanks. That did the trick. @HOME was expecting a hostname.
I am a bit puzzled by the startup scripts. I don't know what to put into
the ifcfg-eth1 script for the dynamic parameter. So, in my usual style,
I just ripped out all the fancy garbage (That is, stuff I can't
understand) in the network startup script and configured everything
manually. Here are the three lines required to configure the network
interface. These begin with the eth1 interface down.

/sbin/dhcpcd -d -h cc641790-a eth1
. /var/run/dhcpcd-eth1.info
/sbin/route add -net default gw $GATEWAY eth1

This doesn't do anything about name resolution, I THINK. (I don't have
a clue about what happens to the /etc/hosts file, if anything.)  Hard to
be sure, since the old and the new servers are still the same. We don't
switch over for a couple more days.

Joel

> To make my dhcpcd work on @home I had to change the call to dhcpcd as
> shown below by changing the -HD to instead tell the server the @home ID
> was given 'cr##-a', and they would assign the IP according to
> hostname supplied.
> 
> >>>#/sbin/dhcpcd -HD $interface >/dev/null || {
> >>>/sbin/dhcpcd -h cr##-a $interface >/dev/null || {
> 
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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Net Llama


--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29, Robert L. Hemus wrote:
> > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
> > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."
> 
> the ? means use the letter b,c or d. Ie whichever is your cd ide
> drive.

Note:  it could also be the letter 'a'.

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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Net Llama

--- "R. Quenett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> from Robert L. Hemus:
> 
> " Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
> " "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."
> 

Showing us what your menu.lst file looks like might help.

> " then reboot.
> " When I do this it won't reboot.  Need to use the rescue disk.  Is
> the
> " file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst?  If so, what
> have I
> 
> Looks like the right place to me, from the little I know, but I'm 
> surprised you get an unbootable system.  I'd check the kernel config.

That's the wrong place.  The correct place is /boot/grub/menu.lst
I'm not even sure why /root/boot/grub/menu.lst would exist.

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Re: Fwd: IMAP4

2002-01-08 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:24:45 -0500
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> Forwarded for Rick... (it's users@ not steps@)
> 


Doug

  Thanks, made proper correction here, 

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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Robert L. Hemus

Mike Andrew wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29, Robert L. Hemus wrote:
> > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
> > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."
> 
> the ? means,  got that, OK...OL e2.4, of course..
> 
> PS:  
> IF you are running a 2.4 kernel the append is not necessary. Instead, you
> *could* edit /etc/rc.local and type the magic words
> 
> /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi
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ELX linux

2002-01-08 Thread Ken Moffat

Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish? 
(maybe it's because I have it about 40 gigs in to a 60 gig drive?)
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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Robert L. Hemus

Hemo wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:29:03 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:59:40PM -0800, Robert L. Hemus wrote:
> >> Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
> >> "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."
> >> then reboot.
> >> When I do this it won't reboot.  Need to use the rescue disk.  Is the
> >> file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst?  If so, what have I
> >> done, am doing wrong?
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >> Bob Hemus
> >
> >It would help if you told us what distro and kernel you're running.
> >There are reports that things are different in distros released after
> >the ones this SxS was tested on.
> >
> >Also, if there's anything more specific you can say about "won't reboot"
> >it may help us figure out what's wrong.
  It goes thru stage 1-2 loads kernel, boots kernel, then up in
the right hand corner in the "colors" it says kernel panic. press any
key to continue goes back to   .  It'll boot Windoz OK.


> 
> Aye, I'm a grubby one at that.  I use GRUB and have followed the SxS
> to setup my ide burner.
> 
> First, what distro are you running.  Second, I hope you aren't using
> literally hd?=ide-scsi, but replacing the ? with the representation of
> your actual drive. 

 As previous message hdc.

> 
> IDE primary master=a
> IDE primary slave=b
> IDE secondary master=c
> IDE secondary slave=d
> and so on..
> 

OL e2.4, only one CDROM hdc, have hda1, hdb1, hdb2, hdb3


> When my CDRW was connected as primary slave IDE device, I used the
> line 'hdb=ide-scsi'. When I put that in /boot/grub/menu.lst in the kernel line I get 
>above problem??

Think I'm gonna try Mike's suggestion.

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Re: Fwd: IMAP4

2002-01-08 Thread David Aikema

On January 8, 2002 05:24 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

>   Quick question here. I am using pop3 for my normal mail devilery.
> I have a new email address from the University of North Texas. They
> are using IMAP. Sylpheed has a setting for IMAP4.
>
> 1 is IMAP4 same as imap

AFAIK IMAP4 is IMAP version 4.

> 2.  Do I need to do anyspecial setup imap4 to run on my
> Caldera ew 3.1 system.

Well... on the client end just a mail program that supports that (eg. KMail)

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Re: Really handy but unsolicted tips for vi (vim)

2002-01-08 Thread Alan Jackson

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:57:53 -0500  Joel Hammer wrote:
> The more I learn about vi the better it becomes.
> 
> Just to pass along a couple of tricks I recently learned about vi (vim)
> which have made a huge difference in my use of it.
> 
> A big problem with vi is fixing up those ragged lines after you edit a
> paragraph. You can just pass the lines through a filter fmt and it fixes
> that right up. Just position your cursor in the paragraph you want to fix
> up, and have a blank line at the end and the beginning of the paragraph,
> (Blank lines separate paragraphs as far as I can tell.)

I used to do that, I now use gq}
it honors tabbed lists like :
- this is a list
  with proper indenting
and generally does a *real nice job*. What I really want to do is write
a script I can call that uses Text::Format from Perl, because it is
*really* powerful.

BTW - there is a very active vim e-mail list if you really need another 50
or so e-mails each day. 8-) Check out vim.org

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Re: Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable

2002-01-08 Thread Alan Jackson

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:02:43 +1000  "Shane Broomhall" wrote:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> --=_NextPart_000_000F_01C197BE.A6961A80
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> 
> Hi all ,
> 
> I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next month.
> I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user.  I am
> hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards on-line or
> downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my knowledge.  I
> am familar with linuxdoc.org, and i will be getting the latest copy of the
> howtos before I move across.
> 
> But does anyone have any resources for learning scripting, html, C++
> programming, or linux configuration. Some kind of scripting that I can use
> to filter my mail and so on would be nice.  I have the ability to purchase
> hard cover books and have many, but as they go out of date so soon, I am
> hoping for free resources.  I would be willing to join an online library if
> I can download the books.
> 

I do most of my scripting in perl. There is a nice new module, Mail::Filter
that helps set up mail filters. Another popular filter is Mailagent.

For C++ I like the book by Steve Oualline (he also has a C and a ViM book).

HTML? Hell just look at the source for pages you like. 8-) That's how
I learned it 10 years ago.


Perl has a huge support base, many good books, a huge library of modules,
and even many local organizations. It was originally written to do sys admin
and text munging, and has evolved to handle web tasks and much more. You
won't regret learning it.


My latest toy was to write a 29-line script that feeds the output of
my callerid script to voice synthesizer code so that when the phone rings,
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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29, Robert L. Hemus wrote:
> Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
> "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."

the ? means use the letter b,c or d. Ie whichever is your cd ide drive.

PS:

IF you are running a 2.4 kernel the append is not necessary. Instead, you 
*could* edit /etc/rc.local and type the magic words

/sbin/modprobe ide-scsi


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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Hemo

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:29:03 -0800, you wrote:

>On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:59:40PM -0800, Robert L. Hemus wrote:
>> Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
>> "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."
>> then reboot.
>> When I do this it won't reboot.  Need to use the rescue disk.  Is the
>> file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst?  If so, what have I
>> done, am doing wrong?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Bob Hemus
>
>It would help if you told us what distro and kernel you're running.
>There are reports that things are different in distros released after
>the ones this SxS was tested on.
>
>Also, if there's anything more specific you can say about "won't reboot"
>it may help us figure out what's wrong.
>
>And I hope there's somebody here who groks both GRUB and CDRW, because
>I have yet to make friends with GRUB.  The stuff in the SxS about
>GRUB was told me by others.
>

Aye, I'm a grubby one at that.  I use GRUB and have followed the SxS
to setup my ide burner.

First, what distro are you running.  Second, I hope you aren't using
literally hd?=ide-scsi, but replacing the ? with the representation of
your actual drive.

IDE primary master=a
IDE primary slave=b
IDE secondary master=c
IDE secondary slave=d
and so on..

When my CDRW was connected as primary slave IDE device, I used the
line 'hdb=ide-scsi'.


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Re: internal modem

2002-01-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:20, Declan Moriarty wrote:

> > > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> > >
> > > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;
> >
> > Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It

[snip]

The point behind the original post(er) was that winmodems will not respond to 
any of the COMx ports. Nor will the very small number of genuine com cards 
that use pci, but that's an added wrinkle.

THE major reasons for pci is to extend the crippled IRQ slots, extend dma 
beyond the 7 channel : 16 bit address range, and to provide better bandwidth 
than 16bit ISA.

Serial cards (modem or otherwise) fail on all criteria. They can only ever be 
8 bit, have no practical use for dma, and irq's 4/3 are welded to serial 
comms (but not the other way round). Thus the need to make a pci based 
genuine com card is not there and is more expensive to produce (more gold 
fingers).

Winmodems are an excellent idea if you have under-utilised cpu power. There's 
nothing illegal in using cpu crunch for dsp processing. Sound has been doing 
it for years (22% of your cpu useage can be spent processing wav files),  
prior to voodoo grafix engines (eg) so too for video. I don't like these cpu 
hungry devices philosphically, because I like things in lego-blocks, not an 
all encompassing cpu. But, I admire the cleverness and technology behind the 
winmodem.

If you accept the following:

1) an internal 'modem' is wasted on anything but ISA 
2) Motherboards will rarely supply ISA slots in future.
3) motherboards will ALWAYS have COM1 & 2' on board'

External modems are the *practical*, *permanent*, answer.

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Re: writeable vfat

2002-01-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:51, R. Quenett wrote:
> Suggestions to correct the following fstab entry so any
> user can write to /mnt/hda14 would be appreciated.
>
> /dev/hda14 /mnt/hda14 vfat rw,users,dev,exec,suid,check=n,uid=503,gid=100 0

[snip]

  vfat defaults, users, umask=0 0 0

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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Thanks to the people who responded for their ideas.  Where I think we will 
go with this is indeed using tools for virtual domains.  In particular, if 
we can be sure doing so will leave mail to valid addresses untouched, 
making an entry to virtusertable sounds like the approach that will have 
least impact.  I may do a test system to verify.

At 04:19 PM 1/8/02 -0800, Bill Campbell wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:34:42PM -0600, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
> >Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses
> >forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect
> >these to possibly forward to the users.
>
>I don't do sendmail, but did see an /etc/maildomains file on a system I did
>some other work on which provides for mapping mail for multiple domains
>with default addresses if there isn't a match.  The file for this is in the
>format:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]   some_valid_email_address
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]   another_valid_email_address
>example.com an_address_where_anything_else_goes.
>
>I thought this was a pretty neat way to handle virtual domains, and
>implemented this in smail-3.2 using the rewrite driver.  This probably
>isn't the best way to handle several thousand primary addresses on a system
>though.  It lends itself best to virtual domains with limited numbers of
>users.

We have probably just over a hundred users--but LOTS of mail, and more than 
a few really large messages.

>This could be used though if one has a capability similar to smail's
>smart_user variable which will forward unknown local addresses to another
>mail server for handling (or another instance of the server on the same
>machine, but listening on another NIC).

We ideally want undeliverable mail to go to root, or (better) another 
single address on the same server.

> >I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for
> >incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all
> >possibilities.
>
>Deleted or expired are fairly easy to handle by aliasing the address so
>that they get forwarded to a script that returns some useful message.

True, but it means about three years worth of former employees, some of 
whom we've probably forgotten.  And then there is the issue of senders 
guessing e-mail addresses--while the way we assign addresses is probably 
not exactly intuitive for some of our colleagues.

>Bill



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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Zoran

On Jan 8 Stuart Biggerstaff was heard saying:

->Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses 
->forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect 
->these to possibly forward to the users.


*** Yes there is: Use the /etc/mail/virtusertable and enter one line er 
address to redirect:

# Catch all users on a domain
# ---
@..xxxerror:unavailable This domain is not in 
  use anymore

# Catch specific user
# ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And so on...

Compile the file with

makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable

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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread R. Quenett

from Robert L. Hemus:

" Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
" "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."

Is your kernel compiled with ide-scsi support?  If yes try 
'hdx=scsi'.  The kernel configuration help for the relevant item 
mentions that rather than 'ide-scsi', tho I get the idea that both 
can/do work.

" then reboot.
" When I do this it won't reboot.  Need to use the rescue disk.  Is the
" file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst?  If so, what have I

Looks like the right place to me, from the little I know, but I'm 
surprised you get an unbootable system.  I'd check the kernel config.

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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:59:40PM -0800, Robert L. Hemus wrote:
> Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
> "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."
> then reboot.
> When I do this it won't reboot.  Need to use the rescue disk.  Is the
> file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst?  If so, what have I
> done, am doing wrong?
> Thanks in advance.
> Bob Hemus

It would help if you told us what distro and kernel you're running.
There are reports that things are different in distros released after
the ones this SxS was tested on.

Also, if there's anything more specific you can say about "won't reboot"
it may help us figure out what's wrong.

And I hope there's somebody here who groks both GRUB and CDRW, because
I have yet to make friends with GRUB.  The stuff in the SxS about
GRUB was told me by others.

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Fwd: IMAP4

2002-01-08 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Forwarded for Rick... (it's users@ not steps@)

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: IMAP4
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:27:07 -0600
From: Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Linux StepByStep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

List

  Quick question here. I am using pop3 for my normal mail devilery.
I have a new email address from the University of North Texas. They
are using IMAP. Sylpheed has a setting for IMAP4.

1 is IMAP4 same as imap

2.  Do I need to do anyspecial setup imap4 to run on my
Caldera ew 3.1 system.

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Re: writeable vfat

2002-01-08 Thread R. Quenett

Thanks to Dave Anselmi and Ronnie Gauthier for your 'right on'
replies.  I also figured it out shortly after I hit send.  How
many times does that happen?  Anyway,  

/dev/hda14 /mnt/hda14 vfat defaults,umask=002,gid=100 0 0

works fine.  I musta read man umount three gadzillion times without 
noticing that or figuring it out.  Sheesh.

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printing and antialias

2002-01-08 Thread Keith Antoine


Had a brush with Mandrake 8.1 and very quickly re-installed Suse 7.3 for now.
I have a problem I had before with Suse in that the print job I gave it seems 
to be looping and just going on and on, its CUPs which mandrake does not 
install by default. AFAIC it should use cups but does not and I have to 
delete the lpd and install cups. How can I stop the damd thing printing, 
cannot find anything that will do so in the panel.

Antialias fonts looks great till I call a terminal and that is all S**t and 
unreadable, can change the fonts and will be ok till recalled.

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StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-08 Thread Robert L. Hemus

Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add
"hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file."
then reboot.
When I do this it won't reboot.  Need to use the rescue disk.  Is the
file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst?  If so, what have I
done, am doing wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: writeable vfat

2002-01-08 Thread Dave Anselmi

"R. Quenett" wrote:

> Suggestions to correct the following fstab entry so any
> user can write to /mnt/hda14 would be appreciated.
>
> /dev/hda14 /mnt/hda14 vfat rw,users,dev,exec,suid,check=n,uid=503,gid=100 0 0

What are the permissions on /mnt/hda14 when it is mounted?  You might have to
make that world writeable (or group if all users are in the right group).

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Re: re snapshots

2002-01-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:50, Kurt Wall wrote:

> Are you still wearing your KurtWerks (tm) Hat?

Sadly, no, one of Les Bell's goats took an unfortunate liking to it.

I have tried banana leaves instead, but have to say 'they' are still speaking 
to me, while my friends are not.


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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:14, Ted Ozolins wrote:

> The All in Wonder card is basically a Mach64 card, what driver did you use?

Wooo! I didn't know that. Skippy, that's an 'unusual' driver for Xfree did 
you try that?

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:03, Collins Richey wrote:
> I've experimented
> with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition
> per distro or a separate /home partition as second choice  Unless you plan
> to download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I
> never manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and
> OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded).  So, I would carve the drive
> up into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present).

Yep, I second that, 4 gig is around my limit per Linux distro, and I keep a 
common scsi 3gig drive for umm errr archives and downloads and things. I was 
reading somewhere that 8gig is an 'optimimum' for the linux ext2fs . It 
wasn't based on the (now mercifully obsolete) 8 gig bios limit, but something 
to do with bitlengths used for ext2fs lba, or file node hashing, or, well, 
something.

I think you'd really have to push the envelope to make a big linux partition 
per OS. If you're heavily into image and sound then really, those files are a 
candidate for a separate drive or partition.

If you're wondering technically if there's anything spooky about such a large 
drive and optimimum partition sizes because of that, then, yes, there *would* 
be some timing esoterica spanning the entire disk surface, but the effort 
you'd spend tweaking would be wasted.

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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Bill Campbell

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:34:42PM -0600, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
>Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses 
>forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect 
>these to possibly forward to the users.

I don't do sendmail, but did see an /etc/maildomains file on a system I did
some other work on which provides for mapping mail for multiple domains
with default addresses if there isn't a match.  The file for this is in the
format:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   some_valid_email_address
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   another_valid_email_address
example.com an_address_where_anything_else_goes.

I thought this was a pretty neat way to handle virtual domains, and
implemented this in smail-3.2 using the rewrite driver.  This probably
isn't the best way to handle several thousand primary addresses on a system
though.  It lends itself best to virtual domains with limited numbers of
users.

This could be used though if one has a capability similar to smail's
smart_user variable which will forward unknown local addresses to another
mail server for handling (or another instance of the server on the same
machine, but listening on another NIC).

>I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for 
>incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all 
>possibilities.

Deleted or expired are fairly easy to handle by aliasing the address so
that they get forwarded to a script that returns some useful message.

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Re: writeable vfat

2002-01-08 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0
works for me

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 22:21, R. Quenett wrote:
> Suggestions to correct the following fstab entry so any
> user can write to /mnt/hda14 would be appreciated.
>
> /dev/hda14 /mnt/hda14 vfat rw,users,dev,exec,suid,check=n,uid=503,gid=100 0
> 0
>
> As it is, root can write and any user can read (always), but a user
> can write only if logged in as uid 503. If uid=503 is omitted then only
> root can write; if changed to nnn, then user can write only if logged
> in as user nnn.  I'm sure it's a permissions problem but damned if
> I can see how to correct it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> R
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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 17:34 pm, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
> Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses
> forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect
> these to possibly forward to the users.
>
> I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for
> incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all
> possibilities.
>
> Any suggestion would be appreciated.
>

If you're running procmail, just put in a recipe at the end of your list of 
recipes to dump it to a file.



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Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses 
forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect 
these to possibly forward to the users.

I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for 
incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all 
possibilities.

Any suggestion would be appreciated.



Stuart Biggerstaff

Linda Hall Library
5109 Cherry
Kansas City, MO 64110

Phone:  (816) 926-8748
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writeable vfat

2002-01-08 Thread R. Quenett

Suggestions to correct the following fstab entry so any 
user can write to /mnt/hda14 would be appreciated.

/dev/hda14 /mnt/hda14 vfat rw,users,dev,exec,suid,check=n,uid=503,gid=100 0 0

As it is, root can write and any user can read (always), but a user
can write only if logged in as uid 503. If uid=503 is omitted then only
root can write; if changed to nnn, then user can write only if logged
in as user nnn.  I'm sure it's a permissions problem but damned if
I can see how to correct it.

Thanks.

R

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-08 Thread Bill Campbell

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:30:02AM -0800, Net Llama wrote:
>Still about $20 above its value.

No.  Several hundred dollars above its value considering the
damage it can do.

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RE: Searching for a distro...

2002-01-08 Thread Schmeits, Roger

Look at this:
http://www.shockley.net/obsd-bootcd.asp

Roger

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From: Condon Thomas A KPWA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Linux Users (E-mail)
Subject: Searching for a distro...



I'm looking for a distro that will boot from either a floppy or CD,
recognize a SCSI raid system, allow me to mount the partitions thereof, r/w
to NTFS (NT4 version) and burn CDs on an IDE CDRW.  I'd be quite happy with
a command line interface instead of GUI.  The purpose is to copy some file
systems to CD and make a quicker install method than trying to set up four
CPUs exactly the same on several systems (4 CPUs each).

I've been having troubles getting the usual small distros to work under
these conditions.

Would anyone out there have some recommendations for such a distro?


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Re: Windows (OT)

2002-01-08 Thread Randy

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 04:18 pm, you wrote:
> >Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same
> > hard drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS.
>
> That is not true. I have sit up triple boot systems running NT
> workstation, win2k and Linux.
> You just have install windows first which make it easier down the
> road to manage.  Just make sure you create boot disks for all os
> sytems just in case (which you will need them).
>
> Roger
I'll give it a try. Didn't want to invest the time if it was gonna be a 
headache.
Thanks,
Randy Donohoe
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Re: Windows (OT)

2002-01-08 Thread Randy

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 04:04 pm, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 January 2002 02:58 pm, Randy wrote :
> > Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same
> > hard drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS.
> > TIA,
> > Randy Donohoe
>
> well, I have a cd of Windows NT4 and a CD of Windows 2000 Pro sitting
> right here and they are both laying on top of the same hard drive
> sitting on my shelf.  Is that coexisting or colocation?
>
> OTH, I was just thinking you might get more of the answer you'd like
> to hear from a  windows list or group.
That's a cold thing to recommend to someone. 
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Searching for a distro...

2002-01-08 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


I'm looking for a distro that will boot from either a floppy or CD,
recognize a SCSI raid system, allow me to mount the partitions thereof, r/w
to NTFS (NT4 version) and burn CDs on an IDE CDRW.  I'd be quite happy with
a command line interface instead of GUI.  The purpose is to copy some file
systems to CD and make a quicker install method than trying to set up four
CPUs exactly the same on several systems (4 CPUs each).

I've been having troubles getting the usual small distros to work under
these conditions.

Would anyone out there have some recommendations for such a distro?


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RE: Windows (OT)

2002-01-08 Thread Schmeits, Roger

>Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same hard 
>drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS.


That is not true. I have sit up triple boot systems running NT workstation,
win2k and Linux.
You just have install windows first which make it easier down the road to
manage.  Just make sure you create boot disks for all os sytems just in case
(which you will need them).

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Re: Windows (OT)

2002-01-08 Thread John Hiemenz

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 02:58 pm, Randy wrote :
> Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same hard
> drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS.
> TIA,
> Randy Donohoe

well, I have a cd of Windows NT4 and a CD of Windows 2000 Pro sitting right 
here and they are both laying on top of the same hard drive sitting on my 
shelf.  Is that coexisting or colocation?

OTH, I was just thinking you might get more of the answer you'd like to hear 
from a  windows list or group.
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Windows (OT)

2002-01-08 Thread Randy

Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same hard 
drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS.
TIA,
Randy Donohoe
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Re: too many fscking kernel patches!

2002-01-08 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
> Perhaps i'm naive, but i always thought that if a patch applies cleanly,
> then it works.  At least that has been my limited experience.

nope. you can have two different memory-tweaking patches that apply cleanly 
to your tre, but effectively cancel each other out. that's what I meant by 
"working". Which patches can be bundled together without losing any of the 
benefits of the individual patches..
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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-08 Thread Net Llama

Still about $20 above its value.

--- Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My son just got a copy of XP professional for $20 from his school.
> Student
> discount. That is the kind of price I am trying to get.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
> > Take a look at:
> > 
> > www.bcd2000.com
> > 
> > They have XP Home (full version) for 99 bux, but their XP Pro is
> priced at
> > $159.
> > 
> > FWIW
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Glenn

=

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-08 Thread Joel Hammer

My son just got a copy of XP professional for $20 from his school. Student
discount. That is the kind of price I am trying to get.

Joel


> Take a look at:
> 
> www.bcd2000.com
> 
> They have XP Home (full version) for 99 bux, but their XP Pro is priced at
> $159.
> 
> FWIW
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Glenn
> 
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Re: too many fscking kernel patches!

2002-01-08 Thread Net Llama

Perhaps i'm naive, but i always thought that if a patch applies cleanly,
then it works.  At least that has been my limited experience.

--- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is anyone besides me trying to keep up with the flurry of kernel
> patches on 
> lkml concerning scheduling, memory-mapping, pre-epmtion, etc.?
> If so, does anyone have a good idea of what works, what works
> together, and 
> what don't?
> 
> I'm currently running 2.4.17 with the preempt patch from rml and
> grsecurity 
> (let me take a minute to advocate grsecurity. this patchset rocks! 
> www.grsecurity.net for the details. I don't use the ACL stuff, or the
> heap 
> stuff, but the extra logging, the extra control over the netwking, the
> added 
> net devices in the entropy pool, and the other protections are
> SWEET!). So 
> far, this combination rocks! My system is running at a very good clip,
> and is 
> pretty damn secure.
> 
> However, I'm looking at the reverse-map patch (Ingos?) and I can't
> tell if it 
> will work with the pre-empt or not (and would it be beneficial?). I
> know the 
> new O(1) scheduler is incompatible (and I wouldn't try it anyway. that
> one is 
> *way* too invasive for me). Anyone making sense of all this stuff?

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-08 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: "Joel Hammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive


> I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can
> get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too.

[schnippen]


Hi, Joel:

Take a look at:

www.bcd2000.com

They have XP Home (full version) for 99 bux, but their XP Pro is priced at
$159.

FWIW

Regards,

Glenn

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too many fscking kernel patches!

2002-01-08 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Is anyone besides me trying to keep up with the flurry of kernel patches on 
lkml concerning scheduling, memory-mapping, pre-epmtion, etc.?
If so, does anyone have a good idea of what works, what works together, and 
what don't?

I'm currently running 2.4.17 with the preempt patch from rml and grsecurity 
(let me take a minute to advocate grsecurity. this patchset rocks! 
www.grsecurity.net for the details. I don't use the ACL stuff, or the heap 
stuff, but the extra logging, the extra control over the netwking, the added 
net devices in the entropy pool, and the other protections are SWEET!). So 
far, this combination rocks! My system is running at a very good clip, and is 
pretty damn secure.

However, I'm looking at the reverse-map patch (Ingos?) and I can't tell if it 
will work with the pre-empt or not (and would it be beneficial?). I know the 
new O(1) scheduler is incompatible (and I wouldn't try it anyway. that one is 
*way* too invasive for me). Anyone making sense of all this stuff?
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RE: The dangers of surfing with windoze

2002-01-08 Thread Schmeits, Roger

I took a security class from www.sans.org couple of months ago and found out
the thin layer of protection that people when they surf the net.  It is very
scary and frighting on the differnt tools that are out there.  Alot of those
tools are for script kiddies which is not rocket science to run.  There are
some nasty people out there...

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Declan Moriarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  The dangers of surfing with windoze


I got an insight into this recently from my son.
(Tip: If you really want to find out about the 'net - ask a teenager)

This guy has to deal with 'lamers' who try to use the myriad of tools for 
hacking under Dos/Win. For the unwary, they're impressive. To the networking

type, they're easily dealt with. Seeing as there was recently a discussion 
about winmodems, this may be of relevance

Netbus: (Can be packaged onto a jpg). You click on the jpg, it runs! When 
online, the hacker can open and close cdrom, swap mouse buttons, show pics 
onscreen, d/l your screen, shut windows, etc.

Assniffer: A tool for identifying the dynamic IP assigned to someone while 
online.
iptracer: ditto. 
This done, with the small netbus or back orifice (below)installed, you are
up 
for grabs by the hacker.

portlistener: does what it says.

BackOrifice: A similar invasion technique to Netbus - easier to land them 
with, but less capable.

Scripts: Myriads of scripts for IRC channels - varying effectiveness
 
These are free for download on 'lame hacker' websites, mainly places which 
boast of their hacking prowess. Only a 'lamer' uses Dos/win tools, I'm 
informed. I might add my son doesn't use these, he just has some of them and

has done the research. 
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RE: question for security gurus

2002-01-08 Thread Schmeits, Roger

got try www.sans.org.  They often list the most common security holes in
companies and weaknesses in desktops, poliocies, and a whole bunch of stuff.
I took a security class with company (online courses that is) and this is a
top notch site with excellent classes if you are serious.  there prices are
not terribly bad.  Lots of good articles on various types of weaknesses.  

roger

-Original Message-
From: Douglas J Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: question for security gurus


If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be
best, 
but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
"in the know".

Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
"Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we

DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

thanks in advance!
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Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast

2002-01-08 Thread Ian

Joel Hammer wrote:
> 
> Still trying to get connected with dhcpcd -d eth1 to the new or old
> @HOME service. My cable modem is on eth1.
> 
> This command, dhcpcd -d eth0, talking to my intranet dhcpd linux server,
> gets assigned an IP address without trouble.
> 
> Here is what I see with tcpdump -i eth1 -n  | grep .67.
> 
> 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]

> 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]
> 
> So, it looks like the dhcpd server sees my request, and responds, but
> the negotiations break down.
> 
> Adding the -DH options didn't fix the problem.
> 
> Any insight appreciated.



On my install of eS2.31 and IIRC on all my Caldera installs, dhcpcd is
called from a script found in /etc/sysconfig/setwork-sccripts called
'ifup-dhcp'.

To make my dhcpcd work on @home I had to change the call to dhcpcd as
shown below by changing the -HD to instead tell the server the @home ID
was given 'cr##-a', and they would assign the IP according to
hostname supplied.

>>>#/sbin/dhcpcd -HD $interface >/dev/null || {
>>>/sbin/dhcpcd -h cr##-a $interface >/dev/null || {

You might want to try two things, using this script to call dhcpcd
(which is what should happen if you set it up using COAS, and the option
to supply your @home hostname, which Comcast may still be expecting.  If
their windows install instructions include adding a specific 'computer
name' under Network Neighborhood -> Properties -> Ident. , this could
well be the case.

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Re: receiving my own mail using sendmail

2002-01-08 Thread Chang

I kind of solved the problem.

I am using pppoe to connect to my BB provider 
over eth1 with an IP address 192.168.3.1.
when sendmail starts, it binded itsefl to eth1 rather than the 
pppoe interface. My named's MX on the other hands pointed at
my eth0 (the internal network card) that had an IP of 192.168.2.1

Could I control the interface to which sendmail listen?
I prefer it to bind to my internal network card and have MX
pointing to eth0 on the server instead... 

> Well... 127.0.0.1 is the local loopback address.  It always points to the
> machine that you're currently on and thus you need to use your internet
> resolvable ip (eg .24.222.111.123), not merely localhost, for the address
> record connected with it.

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The dangers of surfing with windoze

2002-01-08 Thread Declan Moriarty

I got an insight into this recently from my son.
(Tip: If you really want to find out about the 'net - ask a teenager)

This guy has to deal with 'lamers' who try to use the myriad of tools for 
hacking under Dos/Win. For the unwary, they're impressive. To the networking 
type, they're easily dealt with. Seeing as there was recently a discussion 
about winmodems, this may be of relevance

Netbus: (Can be packaged onto a jpg). You click on the jpg, it runs! When 
online, the hacker can open and close cdrom, swap mouse buttons, show pics 
onscreen, d/l your screen, shut windows, etc.

Assniffer: A tool for identifying the dynamic IP assigned to someone while 
online.
iptracer: ditto. 
This done, with the small netbus or back orifice (below)installed, you are up 
for grabs by the hacker.

portlistener: does what it says.

BackOrifice: A similar invasion technique to Netbus - easier to land them 
with, but less capable.

Scripts: Myriads of scripts for IRC channels - varying effectiveness
 
These are free for download on 'lame hacker' websites, mainly places which 
boast of their hacking prowess. Only a 'lamer' uses Dos/win tools, I'm 
informed. I might add my son doesn't use these, he just has some of them and 
has done the research. 
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-08 Thread Declan Moriarty

Was it Net Llama who wrote on Monday 07 January 2002 15:58:
>
> > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> >
> > happily
> >
> > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> >
> > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;
>
> Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It
> absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem.

As the Irishman said when asked for directions: "If I were you, I wouldn't 
start from here at all!"

I don't think it should be a setserial issue. That is decided in the bios, 
surely. If you have a working com 1 and com 2, the lowest available option is 
com 3. Motherboard ports are always numbered lower than cards - it's the 
order things are checked for. Try disabling com 2 in the BIOS, (If possible) 
whereupon it should be settable to com 2. Otherwise just take it on faith 
that if it were in a pc with com 2 disabled or absent, yours could be set up 
on com 2, whereas a winmodem could not. Which was what I tried to tell the 
guy, who has probably lost interest long ago since he got his answer.
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