Re: Web Creation Tool
Thanks, Aaron & Bill. Just noticed I already have Quanta on my system (didn't know what it was). I'll give it a try. Michael Bill Day pontificated eloquently: > Any text editor is good. But Quanta is really nice. Not quite > comparable to Dreamweaver but nice. There is Bluefish as well. Never > tried it. > > It will not be anything like FP or Dreamweaver, but give it a chance it > grows on you. > > On Wednesday 13 February 2002 18:24, you were heard blurting out: > > What's a good web creation tool for Linux? Something comparable to > > Dreamweaver in Win. > > > > Thanks, -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Web Creation Tool
What's a good web creation tool for Linux? Something comparable to Dreamweaver in Win. Thanks, -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Response of BT to my message...
I'm thinking about getting a patent on moving electrons around in a conductive material. Zoran pontificated eloquently: > Today Condon Thomas A KPWA was heard saying: > > ->> -Original Message- > ->> From: Zoran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > ->> > ->> BT now have a new and exciting self-help service, please > ->> click below to try the > ->> BT Search Engine; > ->> http://www.bt.com/askbt/index.jsp > ->> > ->> Additionally you can now tell us how we are doing by clicking > ->> the online survey > ->> below; www.viewscast.com/btemailsurvey > -> > -> > ->I find it interesting that after telling you how they really do need to > ->charge someone for clicking those little hyperlinks, they put two of > them at ->the bottom of their message to entice you into owing them > money. > > > *** Real bastards... ;-) > > Cheers, > Zoran. -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Ammunition
All true. But I've never seen a EULA before that said you give your vendor the right to install software on your box at any time they wish and without even your knowledge or consent. (Actually you gave consent when you opened the XP shrinkwrap.) They not only have unrestricted 24x7 access to your machine, they can do with it as they wish. From an Operations perspective, that's completely unacceptable. Some would argue, of course, that they fear nothing from MS. But the key point is what it reveals about MS' attitude toward you, your systems, their software and their plans for it all in the future. And the simple fact that if they did download the latest security-patch-of-the-minute for XP, and it blew up, you'd have no legal recourse whatsoever. They have rights, you take the responsibility. This is the way monopolies (all) eventually behave - that you, the customer, do their bidding rather than the other way around. This is the first time I've seen IS managers begin to say "enough". They've usually been perfectly happy to be a captive account to whomever their jailkeeper of choice is (IBM, Digital, AT&T, etc.). I was. And most were even worse. I hope this turns into a outright boycott against MS. Michael Lee pontificated eloquently: > Joel Hammer wrote: > > This is really an old argument. Basically, MS can do anything it > > wants to do down the road. After all, almost all MS users are > > entirely dependent on MS. The herd thinks that if there are enough > > sheep, someone will stop the wolf from eating them. Congress would step > > in or something. Or, the wolf will be satisfied with only a small bite > > from each of the sheep. > > > > They could be right. There are a lot of sheep, now that I think about > > it. > > > > Joel > > > >>Some of this has been going on for a long time. Download Netscape 6 and > >> the first thing that happens is that Netscape pings your box to find > >> out what OS your running and the browser you're using. Based on that > >> it makes a recommendation on which version to install. M$ used to do > >> that but I believe they stopped doing it after they caught alot of > >> flack. Netscape's probe is benign enough for a legitamate purpose, but > >> it's still someone tracking your data without asking first. > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 05:28:13PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > > > In case you need ammo to convince folks not to buy MS, this is worth > > > a read: > > > > > > 'Check the fine print' > > > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/02/11/020211opfoster.xml > > > > > > -- > > > Michael R. Hipp > > > Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. > > > ___ > > > Linux-users mailing list - > > > http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > > > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the > > above URL. > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
That has been one of the pleasant surprises of my mailbank acct - almost no spam after having the same addr for 5+ years. Compare that to the ISP addr I have at swbell.net (began receiving spam immediately) or (gasp!) yahoo or hotmail (both are spam magnets). Bill Campbell pontificated eloquently: > and sells your e-mail address to every spamming slime in the world? -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > How is this different from a thing like Register.com? Register.com > seems to provide similar sames services, and for the same price ($36.00 > per year). Not real familiar with Register.com, but ultimately it looks about the same. Only diff is that R.com you actually buy a domain name rather than just renting an email address off an existing domain of theirs (like at mailbank.com). Either way, for a nominal fee you get out of being email shackled to your ISP. -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Reading Documents with Various editors
Good summary, Joel. Do you have a copy of OpenOffice handy to try also? Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > We got at memo a work today, a 300 word memo in Word that was 45 KB > long. It has a small corporate logo on it. I decided to experiment. > Using Word97, I saved it in four formats, DOC, HTM, RFT, and TXT, with > the following file sizes: [big snip] Michael Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Ammunition
In case you need ammo to convince folks not to buy MS, this is worth a read: 'Check the fine print' http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/02/11/020211opfoster.xml -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
Bill, FWIW, I have for years now been using the services of www.mailbank.com. For $10US per year I get an email addr that is pop accessible, isn't dependent on my ISP (which has changed 5 times in the interim), provides me with an SMTP server, and has lots of addresses covering lots of names, professions, hobbies. Just something to use as a reference. Bill Campbell pontificated eloquently: > We haven't been pushing this type of service, largely because I've never > been able to figure what it's worth for people to have reliable e-mail > addresses that aren't tied into a specific ISP, are Linux Friendly, etc. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
7 copies of nscd?
Is it normal to have 7 copies of nscd (name service cache daemon) running at all times? ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND [snip] nscd 791 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd nscd 792 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd nscd 793 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd root 794 0.0 0.1 1312 500 ?S18:57 0:00 watcher root 805 0.0 0.1 1280 404 ?S18:57 0:00 watcher nscd 821 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd nscd 823 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd nscd 824 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd nscd 826 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd [snip] Thanks, -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Configuring KDE Redhat 7.1 without reinstalling
At risk of stating the obvious, this is why I always keep several copies of working XF86Config files stored in all kinds of places. Being able to get X up in even a limited fashion can make any day brighter. Michael Hipp, CGW (Certified GUI Weenie - kinda like an MSCE only with fewer qualifications). Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > I mucked up my xf86config file when I changed monitors and mice on my > RedHat 7.1 box. > This is XFree 4.0 something. Is there a way to run the redhat cdrom to > just get it to configure my hardware again? > Thanks, > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Checked cron, it's definitely set to run every 5 minutes forever. Seems at least backing it down to 1/hour would be sufficient. Anyone know? Thanks, Michael Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > Hmm... > > Is this the despised rmmod command? I would remove this from the root > crontab or system crontab. I think a number of distros use it, to get > rid of unused modules, but, it causes more pain than it is worth in > some situations. > > Are there any other logs you could peek into? httpd, secure, and so on. > > Joel > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:38:06PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > > Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but > > nothing approaching every sec. > > > > Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity (Bingo!)
Using KDE Control Center -> System -> Services, I started stopping services one-at-a-time. The culprit is the USB Hot Plug Daemon. Is this the same as 'hotpluguid'? It seems to still be loaded in memory but no longer coming to the top of top. ps -aux | grep uid: michael 1118 0.0 2.9 16412 7420 ?S21:52 0:00 hotpluguid Any way, problem solved if I can live without USB Hot Plugging. Thanks for everyone's help, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but nothing approaching every sec. Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > I would look in /var/log/messages. Maybe you are getting numerous error > messages logged there, causing the disk activity. > Joel -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
The drives have been in this config since I built the machine (< 1 month ago). The activity stops if I log out to the KDE login panel. Or if I get out of X altogether. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where > | and /home are. > > um, yeah. have you had both drives in the machine in the same > configuration -- both on the same cable -- when this disk activity > *didn't* take place? reason i ask is that there are very ugly > interactions between drives in this configuration sometimes, > irrespective of what's installed on 'em. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: USB Printers and COL 3.1.1 (Workstation)
This might be a good addition to the SxS. Federico Voges pontificated eloquently: > Hi, > > Just one bit of advice for those trying to use an USB printer with COL > 3.1.1 > > add "printer" to /etc/modules/default > or modprobe printer > > Otherwise, it won't be recognized. At least, that happened to me > setting up an Epson SC 777. > > > Federico Voges > Socio gerente > > Intrasoft > Malabia 2137 14 A > (1425) Buenos Aires > Argentina > > Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar > > PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 > > > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
I unmounted the ReiserFS and vfat partitions. Disk activity continues. Setting 'top' to 0.1 second updates seems to show kdeinit, X, init, keventd, and maybe hotpluguid as the most active. But it's really hard to tell. Interesting that hotpluguid seems to jump from way down on list to very top at somewhat regular intervals. Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where and /home are. Thanks. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE > | hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition > | mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure > | what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: > | total used free sharedbuffers > | cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 > | 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 > | Swap: 321260 0 321260 > > hmmm. how often does reiser write to the journal? > > also, what happens if you unplug the second drive? > > finally, if you *watch* top, does anything change when the disk access > takes place? -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 Swap: 321260 0 321260 First few lines of 'Top': PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 1024 root 17 0 64904 14M 2672 R 2.3 5.9 0:44 X 1429 michael 13 0 10012 9.8M 9016 R 0.9 3.9 0:01 kdeinit 1140 michael 10 0 17604 17M 12960 R 0.5 6.8 0:26 kmail 1440 michael 11 0 1016 1016 780 R 0.5 0.3 0:01 top 1124 michael 11 0 7452 7448 5672 S 0.3 2.9 0:36 hotpluguid 1125 michael9 0 9464 9464 8540 S 0.1 3.7 0:11 kdeinit 1 root 9 0 476 476 416 S 0.0 0.1 0:03 init 2 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 keventd 3 root 19 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0 4 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 5 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreclaimd 6 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 bdflush 7 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kupdated 8 root -1 -20 00 0 SW< 0.0 0.0 0:00 mdrecoveryd 92 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 khubd 169 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreiserfsd 378 root 9 0 1012 1012 708 S 0.0 0.3 0:00 dhclient 556 root 9 0 660 660 548 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 syslogd 559 root 9 0 1200 1200 452 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 klogd 594 root 9 0 548 548 424 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 hotplugd 708 nobody 9 0 756 756 612 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 rpc.portmap 714 root 9 0 668 668 572 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 inetd 738 root 9 0 1520 1520 1236 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 amd 750 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 rpciod Any ideas appreciated. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all > | the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. > | > | Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? > > first, what hardware are you running? how do you have swap configured? > what filesystem are you using? > > second, open a konsole window and run top. look to see what if > anything is sucking resources (i have suspects based on experiences > here, but i'll not offer 'em up just yet), as well as its appraisal > of what's going on with memory and swap. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Disk Activity
Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? Thanks. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Printing question
Same for me. CUPS works great. Michael Keith Antoine pontificated eloquently: > On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled: > > Is the following action > > > > a) typical of unix printing in general > > b) typical of cups > > c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet > > d) result of screwed up config options > > > > Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the > > printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to > > the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer. On Windows > > the entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is > > continuous. > > All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style > printing. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: new ibm ad
These things remind why I always admired IBM (even when I despised them) - they're one of the few companies that will build stuff like this just to see if they can. RIP: private sector R&D. Michael dep pontificated eloquently: [snip] > hey -- you see *this*? > > http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO68107,00.html > > IBM deals up a card-size computer > > By BRIAN SULLIVAN > (February 07, 2002) > IBM Research has come out with a computer the size of a stack of index > cards, according to a company statement. > The computer, which has an 800-MHz processor and 128MB synchronous > dynamic RAM, is 3 in. wide by 5 in. long and three-quarters of an > inch thick. It also comes with a 10GB hard disk drive and a 3-D > graphics chip with 8MB of RAM. IBM said it has no plans to market the > device and is referring to it as a "radical experiment." The company > said it built the device, known as the Meta Pad, "to research and > develop technologies that will go into and help manage future > computing devices." IBM may license the Meta Pad technologies to > other companies, however. -- Michael R. Hipp Hipp & Associates Registered Linux User #6,000,000,000 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 07:51 pm, Net Llama wrote: > --- Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am I to download the src for that file beforehand? > > Yup. > *ALL* you should need if you want to go the SRPM route, is the gcc SRPM. > That's where i got my copy of libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3. Ok, I went out to ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/OpenLinux311/Workstation/SRPMS and downloaded gcc-2.95.2-8.4.src.rpm. Is this what I want? Now if I do '--rebuild' to this I will have a binary .rpm that will contain my sought-after lib file? > I don't think the DR. ordered 8 hours of pain trying to compile a KDE > frontend for lm_sensors. Its your time, so if you don't care about > spending alot of it fighting with various deps, then keep plowing > through. True. But a big part of the purpose is to learn. And doing it on something disposable like a temp monitoring app seems low risk. Best regards, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley
Not sure I followed this. 1280 pixels across 301 mm = ~108 dpi. But does this cause X to change something about how it displays things? I was under the assumption that it was a 75dpi vs 100dpi thing related entirely to which font set to choose (or how to display the font perhaps). Michael On Wednesday 06 February 2002 06:36 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: > I do... > [00:32 peter@penguin:~]$ xdpyinfo | grep dimensions > dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (301x226 millimeters) > > So then I edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to add "DisplaySize" ... > Section "Monitor" > Identifier"CTX|CTX 1792UA" > VendorName"CTX" > ModelName "1792UA" > DisplaySize 300 226 > HorizSync 30.0-95.0 > VertRefresh 50.0-160.0 > EndSection ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Font in File Manager
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:20 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: > When the file opens in konqueror, select "Settings | Configure Editor" > from konqui's main menu. That should give you the same options as if you > were using kwrite ( Advanced Editor ). Thanks. Completely missed that. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote: > rpm --rebuild > > If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in > /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/ [snip] > > After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? > > You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks. Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and the above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding help? Am I to download the src for that file beforehand? Forgive if I'm missing your point. > Well, if that's what you're trying to do, you're making it infinitely > harder than is neccesary. Install lm-sensors instead. Its what the > pros use to monitor temperature/fan speed/ etc in Linux. Yes, I got lm_sensors working (eventually; you know you've got one when the INSTALL file is 275 lines). But in the process I stumbled across KHealthCare that depends entirely on lm_sensors but does it all in KDE. Just what the Dr ordered. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:33 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > xdpyinfo|grep resol resolution:90x96 dots per inch > then tell me how you run X? through xdm? or startx? or other? At this moment I boot straight into KDE when it enters runlevel 5. So I presume I'm using kdm. I have attempted to study the tangled path that starts x but never figured it out. Weird ... If I change it to boot up to runlevel 3. Doing either 'startx' or 'startkde' produces a grey screen but no KDE login. The only thing that seems to start KDE properly is 'telinit 5'. So any idea where I should put the -- dpi 100? Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:22 pm, Ian wrote: > Lonni's right...if nobody's ever told you, and it's not obviously > documented in a manner/place for you to easily find it (as a non-guru > type), then it's not a stupid question. Thanks. Am I missing emails. I didn't see such a note from Lonni. Sometimes they arrive out of order and this one doesn't seem to have arrived at all. Am I the only one? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 02:07 pm, Zoran wrote: > *** No, but this depends entirely of what your goal in life is. If it is > a filled up bank account than yes you are right. > > There are people, however, for whom crispy bills are not the main driving > force. Furthermore you seem to forget Linux is what it is because not > everybody has dollar signs in his eyes. > > The people who feel like making proprietary apps. can go ahead, but I do > not think you should blame the community for having strong principals. We > need the free code fana's as the counter weight to the "greedy" guy's... I hope Linux evolves into a healthy mix of free and not-free. But it helps not at all to characterize anyone who has chosen software as their career (and therefore *must* be paid for it) as greedy. Don't forget that alot of those that are doing it for free are able to do so because they are on someone's payroll (Caldera, Suse, etc.) that pays them to write "free" software. Asking to get paid is no more a sign of greed than doing it for free is a sign of altruism. They each scratch a different itch. Best regards, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Font in File Manager
Does anyone know how to select the font used when File Manager (Konqueror) displays a "Plain Text" file using the embedded viewer? Mine has begun using some font that is almost unreadably ugly and there seems to be no setting for it in Control Center or Konq. Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: NO MAIL
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 12:16 pm, Glenn Williams wrote: > This next incident is entirely unrelated to the mail famine. I > downloaded ISO images of ELX, burned the 2 install CDs, and installed ELX > on this machine (to co-exist with Windows XP Pro). "Don't mess with the > MBR," says I, but I guess the ELX install program thought it knew better. > It fubarred the MBR. Elx did the same to me. Fortunately with 3 other Linux partitions to choose from, it wasn't hard to get into one of them and re-install GRUB (I use it as my boot selector). Elx also crashed several different times during install. Found out there are several places not to click on the screen while installing. Took near 10 tries just to get an install. Promising distro, but not there yet. Check out Lycoris Desktop/LX: http://www.lycoris.com. Appears to be similar philosophy to Elx but more stable at this moment. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 11:30 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > I'm glad that it worked for you! Did you catch the latest additions I put > up about Mesa and Freetype? I'm working on that now. BTW, on that SxS, a couple of items stopped me cold at first: 3. Verify the following libs are installed: Freetype 1.x Freetype 2.x Mesa Libz (or zlib) What's the *proper* way to do this (verify the libs)? P.S. I recommend you run XFree86 in 100 DPI mode for best results. How is this done? Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Poor Man's Remote Admin
Thanks for the ideas David, Joel, Myles, Zoran! One thing I eventually figured out is that it's not so easy to just send an email from the command line. The normal solutions 'mail', 'mutt' etc. all presuppose that you have a full-house MTA running on the server. I don't want sendmail running on a simple LAN server and I'm putting off learning sendmail for as long as I can :-D Anyway, I found a really simple solution in 'SendEmail' by these guys: http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/ It's a perl script that's fully self-contained and will talk smtp to fling an email at your ISP. All parameters spec'd on the command line. Works. Michael On Monday 04 February 2002 05:51 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: > I'm setting up a simple lan server for a client. It's behind a NAT router > so I can't actually do any remote admin. But I can at least keep track of > "how goes it" on the server with a simple script file that runs 1-2 times > per day and emails me the output of, say: > > df > ps -aux > free > tail --lines=50 /var/log/messages > dmesg > > Anything else that would be useful? > > What is the easiest way to send a simple text email from the command > line? > > Thanks, > Michael > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
I apologize for being dense, truly. But how does a person ever figure this stuff out ... So I start opening up one-at-a-time the 188 items on rpmfind.net looking for something that provides libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? Ok, I'm doing that (skipping around actually). I eventually stumble on this one: ibstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.html GNU C++ library Mandrake Cooker libstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm That says it will provide above. All the funny (meaningless, to me) numbers match. Is a "Mandrake Cooker" compatible with my Caldera system. May as well be a Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker for the liklihood that I could figure that out on my own. Presumably this one is already compiled for Mandr and 586. So will it go in the right place if I snatch it? How does one know? Or should I keep looking - knowing I won't find one that mentions anything about Caldera? And how exactly would I "rebuild the gcc SRPM"?. I've installed everything that came with COLW 3.1.1 (I think) do I have what is needed for that? After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? (Stops typing momentarily to scrape bits of greymatter off of monitor after brain exploded.) Undoubtely this stuff is really, really easy once you know it. And there are now 5.2 quintillion people on this list who now realize I'm utterly stoopid. All I really wanted was to install KHealthCare so I could monitor my CPU temp. (sigh) I probably have 6-8 hours into it by now. And I'm on the 4th package involved (none of which have installed according to the instructions). Thanks for your help, Michael On Wednesday 06 February 2002 10:51 am, Net Llama wrote: > Look at the contents of the RPM. I'll note that you get a > libstdc++-libc RPM when you rebuild the gcc SRPM, which is prolly the > more prudent method of doing this anyway, otherwise you run the risk of > having incompatible libraries. > > --- Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will give you > > > > libc6.1-2.so.3? > > > > Thanks, > > Michael > > > > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:49 am, Net Llama wrote: > > > Try searching for 'libstdc' instead. I did this just yesterday. > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will give you libc6.1-2.so.3? Thanks, Michael On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:49 am, Net Llama wrote: > Try searching for 'libstdc' instead. I did this just yesterday. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:22 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:23 pm, Michael Hipp warbled: > > Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what would I > > do with it once I had it? > > > > I have a package to install that can't live without it. I'm running > > COLW 3.1.1. > > Go to rpmfind.net and search for a suitable rpm. Download it and install, > do a ldconfig -v. Should be fine then. Thanks. I thought to look there. But searches turn up nothing of the sort. Even a search on just 'libc6' turns up empty. A look at the alphabetic index starting with 'l' gets no farther than "libstdc++-" before the entries turn into something else entirely. And the numbers bear no resemblence to 1-2.so.3. Obviously I don't know what I'm doing. Any handholding appreciated. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what would I do with it once I had it? I have a package to install that can't live without it. I'm running COLW 3.1.1. Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Thanks Douglas Hunley
I finally got around to doing *all* the stuff in SxS -> XFREE -> XFree410. What a difference! My Linux box no longer has to bow its head in shame next to the W2k machine for readabilty. And my 41-year-old eyeballs will forever be indebted. Thank you. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Suggested module for PCI LAN Card..?
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 11:54 am, Bill Campbell wrote: > We stopped using the LinkSys NICs because they didn't work all that well > with the Tulip drivers unless you used ones with their patches. It's > been a couple of years since we last tried this so they may be better > now. I have been using LinkSys LNE100TX with various distros for awhile with no problems. Tulip. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Poor Man's Remote Admin
On Monday 04 February 2002 06:25 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: > Look around for something called "dailyscript". I still have it (and > have customized it heavily, so it probably won't work for you). I just > mash it around a bit for each distro/release. Wouldn't be without it. Thanks. I'll check out DailyScript. In looking for DS, I came across LogWatch that the author claims is better'n DS. Might be worth a look: http://www.kaybee.org/~kirk/html/linux.html Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Suggested module for PCI LAN Card..?
According to LinkSys support page they work fine with the ne2000 driver. Link: http://www.linksys.com/support/support.asp?spid=26 Michael On Monday 04 February 2002 06:09 pm, Bill Day wrote: > I am about to blow my uptime to throw another NIC into my box, 8^(, but > the only ones I havve currently are Linksys EtherPCI LAN Card II's. I > have th available PCI slots but I can't seem to find anything on the > Caldera Hardware Compatibility about them.. > > Anyone currently using the mentioned card and if so what module are you > using with it. > > I have a stock eDesktop 2.4 kernel installed and currently an NetGear > FA310TX in the box running on a tulip.o module. > > TIA, ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Poor Man's Remote Admin
I'm setting up a simple lan server for a client. It's behind a NAT router so I can't actually do any remote admin. But I can at least keep track of "how goes it" on the server with a simple script file that runs 1-2 times per day and emails me the output of, say: df ps -aux free tail --lines=50 /var/log/messages dmesg Anything else that would be useful? What is the easiest way to send a simple text email from the command line? Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Monday 04 February 2002 06:47 am, Mike Andrew wrote: > [snip] The arcane blitheringly stupid cli syntax of > Linux can get consigned to the dustbin where it deserved to be 20 years > ago. The cli is an embarassment to those who use it. I no longer need to > grep an awk before I bash it. It hasn't put one more hair on my chest. > While I've learned a few more verbs since 1972 *nix hasn't kept up > beyond the monosylable. We're stuck in a time warp with ls, tre, man, and > a host of other inscrutable geek. The only reason people defend tar: a > tape archiver for god's sake, is because it brings back fond memories of > Bob Dylan, Coffee Shops and Duffel coats. (Ask them to be rational and > the expression mists over) > > I'd call this geekspeak a high entry barrier when what I want to do is > design T shirts and run accounts. If that were my profession, i'd like to > love Linux, not wrestle it to the mat. [snip] > > Gui's and point n click assist in a need, and it doesn't equate to being > a Windows clone. X is a good idea(tm).[snip] Bravo! Wish I'd said all that. > I would certainly back you in an argument where some distro was stupid > enough to chase the Windoze market by emulating Windoze, but being a > self-confessed gui-adorer doesn't make me a me-too Windoze luser. Agreed. But I believe the likes of Lycoris and Elx are contributing something real to Linux with "innovation" like simplified menu structure, simple network browser, preconfiguration targeted to end users, etc. It don't see any of the below as a foregone conclusion: 1) That an OS must be difficult to use in order to be powerful and stable. 2) That an OS cannot satisfy both users and gurus alike. 3) That emulating those things that Windows does well (*not* a null list) will somehow turn Linux into a proprietary, unsecure, unstable, expensive, resource hogging, reboot-and-reload clone of Windows. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
You make good points, Matthew. But seems to me that something Webmin-ish should be able to run over most any link. Webmin, imho, is the best candidate for a be-all administrator's gui tool. (Its many current shortcomings notwithstanding). But on the desktop I wish the likes of Mandrake, et al would stop mucking with their very functional but utterly oddball things like HardDrak and such. If we could put all their efforts into Kde Control Center the issue could shortly be put into the "solved problem" file. Michael On Monday 04 February 2002 09:40 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > While I agree with some of what you said, Mike, I must add that as of > February 4th, 2002, GUI apps for remote administration are still infants. > They are relatively insecure and bloated in their use of bandwidth when > compared with the their slick cousin, SSH. Yes, you can get lost in > bash/etc... but that is because it is so powerful, as is the CLI. GUI's > are great and I love to see more added to Linux all the time. I fight > for Linux on the desktop and GUI-everything is what it is going to take. > But when I administer remote clients (especially the poor souls locked > into a 5 year contract with their 56k ISDN connection) SSH and the > command line is what I want. Dated and trapped in a time-warp? Perhaps. > Pragmatic? You betcha. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: QuickBooks Alternative
On Saturday 02 February 2002 04:46 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: > If your budget is limited ($0), sql-ledger works well. There are one or > two more as well. If you have deep pockets, then I suggest AppGen. Thanks. AppGen looks promising. I don't mind paying reasonable $ for it as QB certainly isn't free (and it doesn't scale as the business grows). Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: QuickBooks Alternative
On Saturday 02 February 2002 02:03 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: > On Saturday 02 Feb 2002 19:27, Michael Hipp wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good Linux alternative to Intuit QuickBooks? Or > > does anyone know of a way to run QB on Linux (Wine supposedly doesn't > > work)? snip > > I'd be surprised if it didn't run with wine. I use Codeweavers wine and > Quicken 2000 runs just fine with it. With Win4Lin too. I was going by the info at: http://appdb.codeweavers.com/appview.php?appId=493 Which seems to suggest that QB Pro 01 & 02 have problems with Wine. Haven't tried it myself. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
QuickBooks Alternative
Does anyone know of a good Linux alternative to Intuit QuickBooks? Or does anyone know of a way to run QB on Linux (Wine supposedly doesn't work)? QB is the biggest hurdle I seem to face in getting Linux into small businesses (right after the office suite). Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Standby with ACPI/APM?
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 12:59, Aaron Grewell wrote: > I believe so, but I just got my first laptop this week, so I haven't had > time to play much yet. You may also want to try the Software Suspend > kernel patch. I just saw this today, so I haven't had time to try it > yet, but it's included in the FOLK (Functionally Overloaded Linux Kernel) > project. FOLK is at http://folk.sourceforge.net and you'll find the link > to the patch near the bottom of the page. Thanks. Unfortunately when they say "software suspend" they're talking about saving a system image to disk and shutting off. It's primarily a way to bootup faster afaict. I'm looking for a way to turn off the noise and lights but be able to be back up and running in about 5 seconds with just a tap on the keyboard. It's been a feature of that nameless OS for 3+ years now. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Compete for Microsoft partners
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 15:07, Rick Sivernell wrote: > I really appreciate the sympathy you have soon. My son is 30 and > lives in Atlanta. As far as support I have weened him, I do not know 98 > XP, nor do I. tell him about Linux till he shuts up. Works everytime. Here's an idea: Find out what his ideological leanings are, and depending on which way he goes either tell him: - That Bill Gates is a rich Capitalist Oppressor who exploits the working class. -- or -- - That Bill Gates is a Limousine Liberal and a certain amount of every dollar you send MS goes to support the DNC and GreenPeace. Either way, you got him! :-D Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Standby with ACPI/APM?
Can my system be put into "standby" mode via ACPI or APM? What would I need and how would it be done? A search of google.com/linux didn't turn up anything definitive. (By "standby" I'm referring to powering down except for maintaining system state in DRAM and wake the system back up with a tap on the keyboard. I'm running COL 3.1 kernel 2.4.2) Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
agpgart.o fails
Caldera 3.1 is reporting failure of "agpgart.o" on bootup. Dexktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux) seems to load it ok. Both have this identical line in /etc/modules/conf: # I810 graphics: alias char-major-10-175 agpgart I'm running GeForce2 MX200 agp video. Caldera is xfree 4.0.2c (beta unsupported) whereas Desktop/LX is 4.1.0. This is a new motherboard based on Intel 845 chipset (P4 1.7GHz, DDR memory). /var/log/messages says: Jan 25 21:23:39 linux kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann Jan 25 21:23:39 linux kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M Jan 25 21:23:39 linux kernel: agpgart: Unsupported Intel chipset (device id: 1a30), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1. What is 'agpgart' and should I care? Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Sharing /home Among Distros?
On Sunday 27 January 2002 08:57, you wrote: > Quoting Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just curious, but I've been seeing double posts from you when you ask a > qustion, sent minutes apart. Are you doing this intentionally or is > something awry with either the list or your mail server? It was my own flubbubs. I think I finally got my multiple email programs and accounts sorted out so it won't happen any more. Apologies to the list. I now have a *real* box to run Linux on full-time so everything is looking brighter. And I'll no longer have to desecrate the list by sending from one of those unmentionable email programs that comes with that unmentionable OS :-) Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Sharing /home Among Distros?
What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different distros? I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to share it with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx eventually. They all use KDE so that makes some things easier. One problem: on COL 3.1 I'm michael:x:500:100 whereas on Desktop/LX I'm michael:x:100:100. Presumably I could just change the uid and chown everything in /home/michael??? Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Sharing /home Among Distros?
What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different distros? I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to share it with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx eventually. They all use KDE so that makes some things easier. One problem: on COL 3.1 I'm michael:x:500:100 whereas on Desktop/LX I'm michael:x:100:100. Presumably I could just change the uid and chown everything in /home/michael??? Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Article: Converting A Company To OSS
A somewhat long but excellent read on one company's conversion to OSS. The author makes some very good points about the strengths and weaknesses of the software choices available under Linux. http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT9664091996.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Another Reason NOT To Use Windows
http://www.hp-eloquence.com/sdb/html/998559406.html In Windows 2000 Pro SP2, MS slipped in the old 10-concurrent-connection limitation that had been removed in NT4 due to public outcry. They snuck it back in. Jerks! So if you know someone who wants a small office LAN server better get them to use Linux. Unless they want to spend big$ on W2k Server and enjoy having MS make their decisions for them. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
IBM Unveils First Linux-Only Mainframes
From: http://news.iwon.com/home/technology/tech_article/0,2109,195719|technology|0 1-25-2002::00:18|reuters,00.html IBM Unveils First Linux-Only Mainframes January 25, 2002 12:07 am EST ARMONK, N.Y. (Reuters) - International Business Machines Corp. (IBM.N) on Friday said it is launching its first mainframe computers that will only run Linux, saying the alternative operating system is gaining ground as companies tighten purse-strings in the tough economy. IBM said the two new machines, the iSeries for small businesses and the more powerful and costly zSeries, can replace racks of smaller server computers made by rivals like Dell Computer Corp. (DELL.O) and Sun Microsystems Inc. (SUNW.O). "This is really a first for IBM. It is the first time we are introducing new mainframe technology designed for Linux and server consolidation. This is really the first pure Linux mainframe," Peter McCaffrey, director of product marketing for the machines, said in an interview. The support for Linux comes as IBM is seeing a resurgence in mainframe sales. IBM mainframes, large, multi-processor machines, ruled the computing world in the 1960s and '70s but were usurped by cheaper PCs and servers. Yet IBM says the business is once again booming as companies find it is costly to link dozens or even hundreds of servers together to meet their corporate networking needs. The Armonk, New York-based company says its eServer zSeries mainframes have been the fastest-growing platform in the industry and the only one to post five consecutive quarters of growth. IBM has offered Linux as an alternative platform on its mainframes for some time, and says Linux accounts for 11 percent of the computing capacity, as measured in millions of instructions per second, it shipped in its last quarter. But the new products are its first Linux-only mainframes. "It (Linux) is becoming an important and growing part of the overall mainframe business. Many IT organizations are cutting costs, and what they found is they can use the mainframe to cut costs by sweeping the floor of the Dell-Intel or Sun-Unix servers," McCaffrey said. The lower-end iSeries could replace up to 15 regular servers and would cost around $50,000, while the powerful zSeries could replace hundreds of servers and would cost about $400,000, McCaffrey said. He said that compares with an average mainframe cost of about $750,000. The mainframes would also be configured so technicians with little or no experience on traditional IBM mainframes could easily set them up, McCaffrey said. "It does allow us to reach different customer sets and different audiences that we couldn't reach with traditional full-blown mainframes," McCaffrey said. "We've really hidden and eliminated the complexities sometimes associated with that and made it more of a load-and-go package." 1x1.gif Description: GIF image
2nd hdd on 2nd ide channel?
I'm building a new box for Linux. Partition layout something like this: hda (20G IBM) 1: / (root) Caldera 3.1(5G) 2: / (root) Mandrake 8.1 (5G) 3: / (root) Redmond Linux (5G) 4: / (root) Elx(5G) hdb (empty) hdc (generic IDE CD-ROM) hdd (15G Western Digital) 1: swap(300-500MB) 2: /home (4.5G) 3: / (root) other distro (4.5G) 4: Win2k (4.5G) In this config I've heard that hdd would not be able to run with dma and and "ultra" ide modes because of the pokey CD-ROM. Is this true? How much penalty in performance would I pay by moving hdd to hdb (on ide 0 with the main drive)? (swap, root, and home all competing for 1 channel) For now, COL3.1 will be my main hangout. Any other improvements that could be made on my partition scheme? TIA, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thinkpad upgrade
There are a couple of commercial packages that move stuff from 1 HD to another: http://www.v-com.com/product/dw_ind.html runs on Win but supports Ext2 filesystems and many others. Other helpful links: This company has an impeccable reputation for reliable products: http://www.powerquest.com/drivecopy/ Here's a description of how to do it without buying any utilities: http://unibytecomputer.com/newsletters/bc3_harddrive.htm And another one: http://www.firmware.com/support/bios/w95xcopy.htm Look at this one at the very bottom: http://www.dansdata.com/sbs27.htm This one also: http://www.cybertalk.com/060798.htm - Original Message - From: "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Thinkpad upgrade > I'm going to be upgrading my Thinkpad A20m to a larger HD. > > Anyone here know what the options are for moving current stuff to the new HD? > > I'm familiar with all the mundane stuff of copy partitions, etc but I wonder > if two HD's can be hooked up (even temporarily) to do the copy or whether > I'll have to re-install Win98SE and SuSE 7.2. Normally I wouldn't worry > about any of this because it's pretty straight forward and I would > re-install. But the Windows on the Thinkpad has some pretty big mods on it > and a normal re-install won't cut it I think. I would like to eventually get > everything back the same as it is now. > > I have a LAN so can do a backup over the LAN but getting the stuff back on > the Thinkpad is what I'm concerned with. > > Anyone ever done this? or can point me to a Thinkpad list? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Mag
- Original Message - From: "Dallam Wych" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I couldn't agree more with these statements. I have only been using > linux for about nice months now, and have found it to be a steep > learning curve but well worth it. I have a much better sense of how > my computer works now, something I would have never acheived with > M$ requiring me to trust them and just point and click and don't ask > why. I too find Linux enjoyable and a refreshing change from Win, but I am interested in computers for their own sake. Users, by definition, aren't. > The one thing that really bothers me though is this, I didn't switch > to linux to see it become more "windows-like". I don't mind the GUI, > I have the option of the console. I guess my feeling is that if you > want a system that does everything for you without you having to learn > about it, why not just stay with windows? Why does linux have to be > made "easier", some of us like it the way it is. "Make Linux easier" != "Make Linux a clone of Windows"; And one way Linux can easily 1-up MS is to keep all the under-the-hood options available (command line, etc.) while still making the gui ever more powerful/easier. Keeping Linux just the way it is certainly an option. But then there's no room to complain about MS as we've decided we are perfectly alright with them having a 90+% desktop marketshare. Their monopoly will be secure. With Linux forever relegated to a small niche. Fact is, Linux has gotten *lots* easier. The COL 3.1 I'm working with now is a giant leap from the RH 5.2 I started with 2 years ago. But all the power is still there. Indeed, the power stuff has grown right along with it. Linux could be the first OS in history to make both the Users and the Techies happy. Big Group Hug! Best regards, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
- Original Message - From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something > above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed > without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. All you gotta do is sit on your hands for 10 seconds and it will revert automatically to the previous (working) setting. That or use safe mode as someone pointed out. Never tried a dual-head setup. It's supposed to work on W2k. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
- Original Message - From: "dep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- can ease of use be achieved > without compromising security? -- i do not know, and neither does > microsoft, because it's never been a concern of theirs. nor do they > intend for it to be, because their idea is to own your computer, its > connections, and its contents. If the leaked Gates' email is to be believed, MS is now security's best friend. It will be interesting to observe if they really can shift their focus from featuritis to quality & reliability. I'm not betting on it. As it would require the abandonment of a very successful strategy that now stretches into decades. FWIW, as a fifteen-year customer of MS and mostly satisfied one. I have decided to boycott XP - it's just intolerable. Worst UI design I've ever seen. And to have been marketed as the most stable OS ever, they missed that mark worse than they missed the ship date of "Chicago". Nevermind this licensing scheme that requires your machine to periodically request permission from Redmond to continue functioning. I hope the backlash from all that turns into torches and pitchforks in the IS departments. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: an interesting experience
- Original Message - From: "Zoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: Re: an interesting experience > On Jan 20 Michael Hipp was heard saying: > > ->My point is that we need to make this stuff *simple*. Rather than brag about > ->how we're able to do hard things. Let's brag about how an ordinary joe > ->doesn't need to do hard things 'cause it's all easy (in Linux). > > > *** One, I don't see why ordinary Joe has to be able to do it. He doesn't > do it with Windows as it comes pre-installed so I don't see why he should > be able to do it with Linux. If he wants simplicity there're enough > different sorts of Mac's waiting for him. Two, what you reffering to > wasn't all that difficult... if only people would stop keeping the cliche > alive that typing is more "difficult" than clicking and three, I don't see > why we have to follow Windows (as in "particular way of using your PC") > and copy it. Linux is not Microsoft Windows and there's no point in trying > to make it look and behave like one. The ordinary joe just might want to buy a CD-R/W drive and get it to work (Myles father did, which is what the original post was about). Why shouldn't he be able to. And are you really serious that you want anyone who switches from Win to go to iMac. If you think MS is an unbearable monopoly, I hate to see how the Apple gang would behave with 95% market share. They were utterly intolerable back when they had 10%. I find it *utterly amazing* that people actually argue against the idea that Linux could and should be easier to use for "regular" people. I'm not suggesting that we clone Windows (bugs and all). I'm suggesting that we take the rough edges off Linux. That, by the way, is exactly what Mandrake, Elx, Redmond Linux (or whatever it's now called) seem to be trying to do. I pray they succeed. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas J Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: an interesting experience
> Michael Hipp babbled on about:
> > I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every
day
> > to get an ATI XPERT 128 card to work under Linux. Xfree says it works.
The
> > COL list says it works. But I tried 2+ different distros and 3 different
> > machines and more XF86Config files than I care to remember and it would
not
> > function under X even at 640x480/60Hz. All the helpful ideas from the
COL
> > list were to no avail. I put it in a Win2k box and it is configured 1st
> > time correctly (and no reboot required). I put it in a Win98 box and it
at
> > least comes up and works at VGA resolution. {Many other examples could
be
> > cited - this is just the one I'm infuriated about at this moment.}
>
> that's strange. just list the ChipID statement in your XF86Config file.
> I had this working before I switched machines. 4.2.0 (which just came out)
> supports this out of the box as well. This particular issue is no
different
> on windows vs. linux. it's a driver issue. the chipset on recent xpert
cards
> are different than the previous. windows will say "i dont know what the
video
> card is, use vga" where linux says "i dont' know what the video card is.
tell
> me." no real difference
Two problems:
1) ChipID doesn't apply to Rage 128 boards.
>From xfree.org: "ChipID can only be used with Mach32 or Mach64 adapters,
and, thus, specifically excludes any other adapter from matching the
``Device'' section."
2) Where do I find this "magic number" ChipID? And how is a mere mortal
supposed to know such things who just wants their friggin video to work.
It's entirely different on Win. Windows doesn't ask me what my dot clock
frequency is, doesn't ask me what my monitor horizontal freq is, vert freq
and a dozen other technical details that I couldn't ultimately care less
about. I just want it to work and Windows can accomplish that even though it
doesn't even have a driver for this card.
And the thing wouldn't work at VGA resolution, or any other in Linux.
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Re: an interesting experience
- Original Message -
From: "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: an interesting experience
> I was told (don't know first-hand) that Windoze didn't (does it now?)
> allow you to just pop stuff in and out at leisure. Had to stop it by hand
> first, then it would tell you that you could safely eject it. And folks
> whine about having to mount and unmount a floppy in Linux. Geesh.
Yes I'll "whine" that about having to mount and unmount a floppy in Linux.
For 2 reasons: 1) because when I forget I end up with an utterly corrupt
floppy and it seems obvious the system ought to at least make an attempt to
protect me from such blunders. And, 2) because it isn't necessary. I don't
have to m&um on my win boxes. So that proves there's no cast-in-stone need
for it. So why does it have to be made artificially harder in Linux than it
must be? It's easy in Windows. Why not make it easy in Linux. (Of course,
amd does to some extent, but the example could be lots of things for which
there is no amd).
> Now, someone, somewhere may have a GUI way to edit those /etc/pcmcia/*.opt
> files. I don't, it would just slow me down. And the edit is a one-time
> thing. Done once, forgotten forever.
But how many times did you have to do it to become so quick at it? Is there
anything intuitive or user-friendly about editing a *.opt script in some far
flung directory? How many users could do that correctly the 1st time (or the
20th time).
What about the other 6 billion people on terra firma who may not have an
interest in learning to edit arcane script files? Do we just leave them as
fodder to help Gates become a trillionaire?
> So please don't tell me Windoze is easier, because it just ain't true.
Yes, Windows is easier - about a great many things that matter to users.
Linux is easier - about a great many things that matter to gurus.
I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every day
to get an ATI XPERT 128 card to work under Linux. Xfree says it works. The
COL list says it works. But I tried 2+ different distros and 3 different
machines and more XF86Config files than I care to remember and it would not
function under X even at 640x480/60Hz. All the helpful ideas from the COL
list were to no avail. I put it in a Win2k box and it is configured 1st time
correctly (and no reboot required). I put it in a Win98 box and it at least
comes up and works at VGA resolution. {Many other examples could be cited -
this is just the one I'm infuriated about at this moment.}
> My prime example is the registry -- now there's a nightmare.
Indeed. Biggest house of cards ever invented.
But even something as awful as the registry did have one very beneficial
side effect. It finally got the software authors off their behinds to write
gui tools to do all the config stuff so that we would no longer have to hand
edit c:\windows\win.ini. I just don't find editing /etc/pcmcia/network.opts
to be any fun either.
And if the day comes when I know every secret trick in every script file
everywhere, I may be utterly proud of myself. I'm a guru now. Part of the
priesthood. Secret handshake & all. I can even contribute on lists like this
one rather than just learning. But I've done nothing to unseat the monopoly
or put Linux on any desktops. Wal-Mart will still be selling WindowsXP
machines by the truckload. And Bill Gates will be running on the Innovation
Party ticket for President of Earth.
Best regards,
Michael
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Re: an interesting experience
My point is that we need to make this stuff *simple*. Rather than brag about how we're able to do hard things. Let's brag about how an ordinary joe doesn't need to do hard things 'cause it's all easy (in Linux). Michael - Original Message - From: "Zoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: an interesting experience > On Jan 19 Michael Hipp was heard saying: > > ->From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ->> > Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW > ->> > (Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he > ->> > asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux box. > ->> > ->> Having moved from OS/2 to linux just a couple of years ago... I can echo > ->your experience. > ->> Working new hardware into linx is a dream when compared to other OS's. > -> > ->You guys must have different expectations that some of us. To get hardware > ->to work in my Win boxes, I stick in the CD and hit 'Next' four times. Never > ->mind the Mac. (And yes I know it's because the hw vendors do Bill's work for > ->him and write all the drivers and install programs.) > > > *** So if you do know, what's your point? > > Cheers, > Zoran. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Should Aunt Tillie build her own kernels?
From: http://lwn.net/2002/0117/index.php3
Should Aunt Tillie build her own kernels?
Eric Raymond has been working for some time on a new kernel configuration
system which, someday, is slated for incorporation into the 2.5 series. This
project has seen its share of controversy over the last year, but, perhaps,
never at the level of the last week. What is the development that has set
off so many kernel hackers? It is an autoconfiguration module (implemented
initially by Giacomo Catenazzi) which figures out which hardware is present
on the system and cooks up a kernel configuration to match.
Eric has been working overtime to justify this work by way of an amusing set
of stories. For your amusement, here are the inspirational tales of Aunt
Tillie, her nephew Melvin ("Autoconfigure saves the day. Possibly it even
helps Melvin get laid"), and the 'girl geek' Penelope. Beyond the possible
improvement to hackers' love lives worldwide, the reasoning behind the work
is essentially this:
"Because the second we stop thinking about Aunt Tillie, we start making
excuses for badly-designed interfaces and excessive complexity. We tend to
fall back into insular, elitist assumptions that limit both the useability
of our software and its potential user population. We get lazy and stop
checking our assumptions. When we do this, Bill Gates laughs at us, and is
right to do so. "
There are reasons to question some of Eric's scenarios. Aunt Tillie is
almost certain to be happier with the kernel supplied by her distributor,
which includes numerous patches, has modules for an unbelievable variety of
hardware, and has been extensively tested. Building and running a kernel off
the net, even from a "stable" series, will never be without its potential
surprises.
But the hostility to the autoconfiguration idea seems to go beyond that.
Some people clearly do not want Aunt Tillie to be able to build a kernel
without learning about the process and understanding what hardware is on her
system. Some, perhaps, fear Aunt Tillie's inevitable "help me" message to
linux-kernel once the process fails. Others, perhaps, prefer a world where
only the Select Few are able to do certain things.
That latter view was often seen in arguments against the desktop projects a
few years ago, though it seems to have faded away in recent times. But
perhaps kernel hackers ("girl geeks" included) remain a more hairy-chested
bunch. If Aunt Tillie can build her own kernels, that's one less thing that
sets them, and their skills, apart.
Linux hackers in general have managed to get over this attitude in general,
and that has been an unmitigated good thing. It has been repeatedly shown
that Linux can be made easier to use without taking away the power
appreciated by more advanced users. And an easier Linux, among other things,
helps to ensure that the advanced users can work with Linux in the office as
well as at home.
So there is no harm in the creation of an autoconfiguration system for the
Linux kernel, as long as nobody is forced to use it. Even if it does not
really solve Aunt Tillie's problems, there will certainly be a class of
users that is helped by easier kernel configuration. It may even turn out
that some of those kernel hackers end up using it to quickly configure and
build a kernel for a strange system - when nobody is looking, of course.
(See also: Aunt Tillie's web site, hosted at her very own aunt-tillie.org
domain - thanks to Nicolas Pitre).
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Re: an interesting experience
From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW > > (Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he > > asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux box. > > Having moved from OS/2 to linux just a couple of years ago... I can echo your experience. > Working new hardware into linx is a dream when compared to other OS's. You guys must have different expectations that some of us. To get hardware to work in my Win boxes, I stick in the CD and hit 'Next' four times. Never mind the Mac. (And yes I know it's because the hw vendors do Bill's work for him and write all the drivers and install programs.) I'm very impressed that Myles was able to do what he did and so quickly. I'm not impressed that he *had* to. Could his father have done that? Or any other user? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Large cracks in the Windoze, a fud warning.
Let's just make sure we don't take anyone who dares offer constructive criticism of Linux or reports to have found a security problem and immediately fry them as a "mole", "troll", "plant" or whatever. Tarring and feathering needs to be reserved for the real thing; not some innocent who still believes in open discussion and full disclosure. Just my .02, Michael - Original Message - From: "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In any event, when/if MS starts a campaign, it will probably be hard to tell. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netscape webmin fails
From: "Rick Sivernell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ok, I have reinstalled the webmin rpm from the cdrom. When started > from terminal or Icon from toolbar, netscape starts and the normal logon > boxes come up. The problem is it blows up & goes away. Reminds me > of a GPF from M$. > > There must be a secure connection not running or unstable. Any thoughts here? Try it with Konqueror. I've had problems with Netscape & Webmin. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netscape webmin fails
From: "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does webmin come with ws3.1?? I've never had a distro that included it > although it might have come with eD2.4. Webmin came with eD2.4 and also comes with COL3.1. Works. Works well. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
What about this one: http://www.provantage.com/scripts/go.dll/e13112_14/FP_65886.HTM Michael - Original Message - From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:09 AM Subject: Re: internal modem > I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one > or the other. I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's > not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a > winmodem and what isn't. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
