[OSGeoLive] mystery attachments from yandex

[Brian M Hamlin]

OSGeoLive Gets an Unusual Present
09Apr18  -  darkblue_b

==

  On the morning of Monday, California time, an email arrived on the 
OSGeoLive mailing list. 
  That email said "Virtual Geo-Machine on base OSGeo 10 * 150 Gb 
(description in Russian)"
  Included in that email is an attachment --  VGM.zip [ 393KB ]

Contents of the VGM.zip archive:

  VGM_extension_files 12kB Folder    05 April 2018, 10:12
  VGM_files   382kB    Folder    05 April 2018, 10:12
  VGM.htm 15kB HTML  05 April 2018, 10:12
  VGM_Extension.htm   38kB HTML  05 April 2018, 10:12
 
 
  VGM_files ->  two .jpg; twelve .gif;  one .css
  VGM_extension_files ->  Debian_logo.gif    one .css

  IMAGE Notes:   appear in an image viewer, except for
    Tech-landscape.gif    which is a russian language graphic of major
  software projects for geospatial data analysis. 
  the image has problems rendering, and appears broken halfway down
 
    Chelentano_sm.jpg is a similar "landscape" of software apps
  a line of apps related to geo-event processing
   
    Eclipse_modeling_logo.gif stock Eclipse project logo
    GPlates_logo.gif
    Kepler_logo1.gif
   
    Nine_critical_boundaries_sm.jpeg  an info-graphic showing R-style
  multivariate values for nine topics
 [ Change in Land Use; Global Fresh-water Use; 
Phosphorus-cycle; Nitrogen-cycle;
   Stratoshperic Ozone Depletion; Ocean Acidification; Climate Change;
   Chemical Pollution; Atmospheric Aerosol Loading; Biodiversity Loss   ]
 
    OSGeo_logo.gif    The "light green compass" logo from osgeolive 10 era
    R_logo.gif
    deegree_logo.gif
    Cupid_logo.gif
    Debian_logo.gif

  TEXT Notes:
    Two .htm text files with BSD utility `file`  show:
  HTML document, Non-ISO extended-ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
   
    the .css files show:
   ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators

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[OSGeoLive] Fwd: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP next version

[Brian M Hamlin]

FYI

- Forwarded message from Michaël Michaud  -

Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 17:59:44 0100
From: Michaël Michaud 
Reply-To: Michaël Michaud 
Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP next version
To: Brian M Hamlin , OpenJump develop and use 


Hi Brian,

Thanks for the reminder. Let us know when the ubuntu/java version will 
be decided. 

Anyway, the recent OpenJUMP 1.12 is compatible with java 7, so that an 
upgrade of
OpenJUMP in the next OSGeoLive should be possible anyway. 

Michaël

Le 11/03/2018 à 17:21, Brian M Hamlin a écrit :
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:21:42 0100, Michaël Michaud 
>  wrote:
>    One of the next big step will be to migrate to jts 1.15 and java 1.8. 
>    Migrating to jts 1.15 will probably break a lot of plugins. How do you
>       think we should manage this migration ?
> -
> Hello All -
>
>   A gentle reminder, that the OSGeoLive project [0][1] has begun the very
> earliest "call for development" for the upcoming build cycle. 
>   Internally, it is not yet decided which Ubuntu OS version will be 
> the base,
> which in turn directly determines the Java version available. 
>
>   Please feedback early and often so we can together make a great 
> OSGeoLive.   sincere thanks and best regards from Berkeley, California
>
>
>
> [0]  https://live.osgeo.org
> [1]  https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeolive/OSGeoLive
>
> -- 
> Brian M Hamlin
> OSGeo California
> blog.light42.com
>
>
>
>

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[OSGeoLive] rOpenSci request for Feedback - R

[Brian M Hamlin]

R programming language users:
 
  rOpenSci project is asking for feedback on its repository system for 
packages. 
 
  
https://discuss.ropensci.org/t/feedback-wanted-on-ropensci-package-registry/1020
  

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Re: [OSGeoLive] Motion 1+2: Appoint Astrid Emde as connectingperson to the Marketing Committee and USB manager

[Brian M Hamlin]

Motion 1: +1
Motion 2: +1
 
  -Brian

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 00:04:07 +0200, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

  Motion 1: +1
Motion 2: +1

Angelos

On 11/20/2017 10:46 PM, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello OSGeoLive team,

at todays IRC meeting I volunteered to be the person who will manage
USBs and will take care of the OSGeoLive budget and be the connecting
person to the Marketing Committee.

We discussed not to ask for OSGeoLive budget, but to ask Marketing
Committee to provide some extra money for our needs (I alredy ask
Marketing Committee for it).

Motion1: Appoint Astrid Emde as connecting person to the Marketing Committee

Motion2: Appoint Astrid Emde to manage USBs (with the technical help
of the team if needed)

Astrid



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Re: [OSGeoLive] Help needed to get info. on suppliers for OSGeoLive11.0 USBs?

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Suchith --  from the OSGeoLive side, Astrid and I are thinking 
about this now, and possibly others.. The USB storage devices are 
plentiful and increasing in capacity. Shopping is always a matter for 
several factors, like price, shipping and return policy. 

  The hard part is.. that the USB device "boot" capabilities are not 
at all as reliable as the DVD form factor used to be. 
In Boston, we shipped a storage device with a VirtualMachine disk 
image, and not as 'bootable'. 
 
  What is your time frame for purchasing ?  We can go to private mail 
or IRC with the details if is it convenient. 
  best regards from Berkeley, California

   -Brian M Hamlin

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 12:38:42 , Suchith Anand 
 wrote:


Hi All,

Is it possible to email me details of OSGeo Live USB suppliers please? 
Is there anyone in the marketing committee who is the main contact 
point for getting OSGeo Live USBs? Many thanks. 


Best wishes,

Suchith


From: Live-demo  on behalf of 
Suchith Anand 

Sent: 28 October 2017 7:52 AM
To: Marc Vloemans
Cc: live-demo
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on 
OSGeoLive 11.0 artwork?


Thanks Marc. Will it be possible to email me the details of the Dutch 
supplier. I would like to contact suppliers who can provide USBs with 
the latest version of OSGeo Live loaded ,checked and delivered for 
AgriGIS workshops that we run. 


Best wishes,

Suchith


From: Marc Vloemans 
Sent: 27 October 2017 2:45 PM
To: Anand Suchith
Cc: Cameron Shorter; Johan Van de Wauw; live-demo
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on 
OSGeoLive 11.0 artwork?


Hi Suchith,

For Foss4g Bonn we had the logos printed of OSGeo Live and OSGeo on 
either side of the USB stick. A little more costly, but worthwhile for 
our image. With the new logos developed it would provide a great 
opportunity to use them this way. 

A Dutch supplier and Astrid and a team in Bonn put the files unto them 
later on. 


Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans

Op 27 okt. 2017 om 09:55 heeft Suchith Anand 
 het volgende geschreven:


Thanks Johan, Cameron for confirming this. I will inform the supplier 
on this . I will need to find which supplier can provide bulk OSGeo 
Live USBs. If anyone has ideas of reliable USB suppliers for OSGeo 
Live please let me know and also update in the documentation so those 
interested to procure these can contact them. 

I believe OSGeo Live is a great resource for our outreach aims and I 
am determined to get this to new communities. For example, many in 
the Agriculture community who use GIS are not even aware of this 
resource. I am in the process of adding the links of key OSGeo 
resources in GODAN and other key Agriculture community websites , so 
we get more outreach and impact. We need to reach out and engage with 
new communities proactively. 

Thank you everyone for your prompt help and advice on this. 


Best wishes,

Suchith






From: Cameron Shorter 
Sent: 26 October 2017 8:39 PM
To: Johan Van de Wauw; Anand Suchith
Cc: Jo Cook; Steven Feldman; live-demo
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on 
OSGeoLive 11.0 artwork?


Johan's right, I haven't heard of anyone printing OSGeo-Live DVDs for a
few years now. OSGeo-Live is either being run in a Virtual Machine or
from a USB. 

(We probably should be updating our documentation to reflect this). 




On 25/10/17 11:24 pm, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
Suchith,

I am actually not a fan of putting OSGeo live on a dvd. The
performance is very poor for todays standards, and many pc's don't
have a dvd anymore. 


Has anyone actually tried running OSGeo live 11 from dvd? I would
definitely try this with some common applications before printing a
large number. 



Kind Regards,
Johan

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Suchith Anand
 wrote:
Thanks Steven, Jo for informing. I am as first step doing OSGeo 
Live DVDs (2000 nos) and then only plan to get USBs. I have 
contacted the same supplier that Jo mentioned who supplied FOSS4G 
2013 DVDs, so they should have experience on this . I have asked 
them to download from the correct ISO that Brian specified and 
check one before mass producing. 

btw can anyone let me know where to find the OSGeo Live 11.0 
artwork so I can make use of it for the logo printing in DVDs. 
Thanks. 


Best wishes,

Suchith







From: Steven Feldman 
Sent: 25 October 2017 9:45 AM
To: Jo Cook; Anand Suchith
Cc: live-demo
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on bulk suppliers 
of OSGeo Live USB/DVDs


Suchith

Might be a good idea to trial and test before producing a lot of USBs
__
Steven


On 25 Oct 2017, at 08:42, Jo Cook 
mailto:joc...@astuntechnology.com>> 
wrote:


Hi Suchith,

There seem to be options for downloading 32bit or 64bit isos. I'm 
hones

[OSGeoLive] QGis LTS and Python 2.7 in the OSGeoLive

[Brian M Hamlin]

hi Angelos, all

 Yesterday I went through the gdal 2.2.2 transition experimental PPA, 
and used a basic strategy to install parts.. 
from foundation upwards.. and across related groups.  I did not detect 
any conflicts .. 
Particularly with the otb set, and ossim, which are challenging to 
package well,
and therefore may be more likely to contain bugs in packaging. 

  This summary is for two purposes..   one is to signal to Angelos  
that someone looked at the set
The second is.. I am quite excited about a new strategy for our python 
analytics here that occurred to me
while doing the QGis testing. 

QGis LTS, based in python2 and qt4, in practice pulls in almost the 
whole  matplotlib python set that we use. 
pandas is the next CORE component that would be needed.. with that, and 
a little charting support.. 
the whole analytics chain is there   (python-grass is there, too.. 
not clear on those details)


I believe that the Python2 conversation with the Numpy core team is now over.. 
they are high-achievers, and also have limited resources, so they have 
to have a single goal .. 
the new single goal for Numpy core is Python3 by 2020.  (to be in 
synch between say.. 
Pandas 0.18 and Numpy, we may need to bump Numpy up a version or two.. TBD)


Yet I believe, thinking about all the parts, that a solid analytics for 
geospatial, using the existing Python2 stack,
is great value for users, and should be actively maintained for years to come. 
Managing that in a respectful way, that allows all the parties to do 
what they do best.. is the art here.. 

  I look forward to the gdal 2.2.2 transition packaging to become 
widely available, in Debian and UbuntuGIS. 
And, I look forward to a new approach to the maintenance of the very 
valuable Python 2.7 stack with Matplotlib,
Cartopy, Pandas and others .. 


  best regards from Berkeley
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Re: [Live-demo] Name inconsisetnecies

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Vicky -  you are right, these are not cleaned up.. they were 
created at different times in the history of the project. 
--
live-demo   comes from the very early roots, when the OSGeo hackers 
and the Arramagong project joined

 
Live GIS disk or disc   is a generic name. The wikipedia article on 
that topic shows six other projects like this one. 
 
OSGeo-Live  has the hyphen, and is this project, but I believe we 
decided that the hyphen is more trouble than it is worth. 
The hyphen is a written, human convention that tries to be good 
grammer. In the age of Internet, it is better to remove the hyphen 
because not all search and database systems carry to along as expected. 
 
osgeolive   is a primitive, simplistic tag, for the most primitve 
communications systems.. like IRC

 
the remaining two, OSGeo Live  and  OSGeoLive  are both flawed, but 
are the closest to the real project,
today. 
 

--
 
  moving forward, I believe that this project will split, by decision 
or simply in fact. 
The Debian repository is not run by OSGeo, and is named with Debian 
conventions. 
The Ubuntu repository may or may not be run by OSGeo, and is a backport 
of the shipping Live, in practice. 
 
The new OSGeo web site should link directly to the docs, making the 
docs their own project alone. 
 
The remaining  "Live Demo" continues, but the form factor, method to 
try and deliver to users, and other
components are ripe for invention at this time. 
 
  formal names for each of these things are needed, in my opinion. 
  best regards from Berkeley, California

    --Brian M Hamlin
 
 
 
 
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 08:29:53 -0600, Vicky Vergara  wrote:

 
I am confused with the name of our project:
 
OSGeo-Live: is used on the documentation (with a dash) & We applied 
using the dash

 
OSGeo Live: is used on the logo (no dash, dont know about space)
OSGeoLive: is used on gogs & GitHub (no dash no space)
osgeolive: is used on IRC
demo-live: is used in the mailing lists
Live GIS disc: is used in the wiki
 
 
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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on bulksuppliers of OSGeo Live USB/DVDs

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[Live-demo] Ushahidi Contact Renewal

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi List -
 
  I noticed in todays news that Mozilla Foundation announced a large grant to 
the Ushahidi project. [0]
 
 OSGeo-Live 11.0 retired Ushahidi.  However, the Ushahidi organization is 
growing [1]. 
 
 Call for a volunteer to contact the Ushahidi project and start a dialog about 
where to go in the future ?  
 
--
[0] 
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/10/03/mozilla-awards-half-million-open-source-projects/
 
[1] https://www.ushahidi.com/about
 

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[Live-demo] Docker, docker-compose and IPython

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All -
 
  As people may know, OSGeo-Live is using IPython 5.x series, the 
so-called LTS version of IPython. While work continues 
to stabilize and improve the Python 3x platform, Python 2.7 works every 
day, as it has for a long while. 
 
  I am very interested to see a reproducible case where Docker and 
Docker-compose installation is conflicting with IPython. 
 
Personally, I feel these two (Docker & IPython) are both high-priority .. so 
any 
conflicts ought to be straightened out.. 
 
  thanks and best regards from Berkeley, California
   --Brian M Hamlin
 
 

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Re: [Live-demo] Torrents

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hello coronol -
 
  there are not enough nodes to make a torrent .. so people download 
directly from the SourceForge site. 
 

spasibo za interes
  --Brian
 
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 12:19:48 0300, coronol  wrote:

Hello!

Where get I torrent your *.iso?

Thanks!

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Re: [Live-demo] Website still says 10.5

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On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 10:41:44 -0500, Vicky Vergara  wrote:
    I thought that by this time the website would have the 11 information

  no, the download files have to be in place. 
It requires a SourceForge admin login (I do not believe I have that)

 
  The downloads are put in place, and then the website changes. 
 

  --Brian
 

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[Live-demo] OSGeo-Live Mission and Future - was BOF

[Brian M Hamlin]

HI Jody, All -
 
  In the past with OSGeo-Live, I have described the Mission Statement 
in three parts:

 
Reference Install ;  Showcase for Projects  ;  well-chosen (curated) examples
 
  WIth the release of Live 11 and the massive advance in Debian 
packaging, I believe the future is not one project. 
This can be seen as "evolution" .. it is natural for a large and mature 
project to split .. 
 

  Website ;  Server Edition  ;  Desktop Linux
-
   with the new OSGeo web site development.. somehow I realized that the 
docs from OSGeo-Live should be the same docs in the new OSGeo web site. 
Rebuilding docs is too much work, and too many parts, to duplicate. Instead,
build once and deploy in several contexts. 
-

  credit to Angelos Tzotsos and Debian Developer Sebastian Couwenburg
The "server edition" of OSGeo-Live is simply UbuntuGIS PPA,
with DebianGIS aka pkg-grass as the "upstream" in many cases.. 
-
  that leaves "desktop Linux" Ubuntu.. what remains of the OSGeo-Live. 
Critically speaking, it has been twenty years (or more) that I have 
been active,

of promises of "desktop Linux" .. in fact, Windows and phones have spread,
with some percentage of Mac OSX from Apple in various demographic groups. 
Web browsing is constant, phone use is constant and climbing, and .. no 
desktop
revolution with Linux of any kind.  OSGeo-Live right now, is basically 
desktop Linux. 
-
 Another note on Ubuntu.. as people likely know, the number one cloud 
VM instance
is Ubuntu.. and last I heard, Google uses an Ubuntu fork for much 
within its cloud walls. 
The "server edition" of OSGeo-Live is.. Ubuntu packaging.. this bodes well.. 
-

  
I am interested in participating in a BOF, but from my point of view, I 
think we should

consider the OSGeo-Live 11 as somewhat an "end of an era" .. and move forward
with eyes open to new, productive avenues for valuable efforts. 
 

  best regards from Berkeley, California
   -Brian M Hamlin

 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 15:41:07 -0700, Jody Garnett 
 wrote:


Is anyone up for an OSGeo Live BOF: 
Also I finally uploaded photos with the OSGeo-Live team from foss4ge:
(example|example|group). Could I ask the team to select one of these 
for a group photo for the new website?

 
Had a productive meeting with the graphics designer about subbrands on 
wednesday - and had a good ideas for us to try out: rather than reuse 
the circle, reuse the small compass shape. Tried putting the compass 
shape in a computer logo and the result looked like what OSGeo-Live is. 
Also did one putting the heart in a computer frame as a reference. 
 

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Re: [Live-demo] Gray scale logo

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Jody -

 
  I can easily make a git repo of materials.. I believe I can add that
to the OSGeo GOGS git server that Sandro Santelli has setup for OSGeo
use, also...  Sandro is online now..
 
  --Brian

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:50:05 -0700, Jody Garnett  wrote:

  Cameron has access to the google drive folders where all this
stuff is stored; I have not had a chance to set up a github repository
yet.

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On 12 July 2017 at 22:07, Jody Garnett  wrote:

  I don't have one, that is not a bad idea. 
Note there is a black and white official logo here:
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B08AjQ2hqLipOVlKMlpoYUd0Q0k/view?usp=sharing

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On 12 July 2017 at 16:22, Vicky Vergara  wrote:

  Hello Jody,

This was accepted:
https://cvvergara.github.io/osgeolive/add-logo-left/en/overview/overview.html
 
The idea of using a Gray scale logo of:
https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/gray-logos/images/logos/OSGeo_compass.png

to distinguish projects, from community in the overview files, came out
in a meeting.

I f you have one, can you make a PR to this branch in my fork:
https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/tree/gray-logos

I will make an experiment and to visualize the "looks" using it.

Thanks
 
Vicky
PS.  my fork is a mess, I have many many branches, because I do my
experiments, and don't delete them. hope you find the branch :)

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Re: [Live-demo] Small OSGeo logo to distinguish between Graduatedand Community OSGeo projects

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:58:21 -0700, Jody Garnett 
 wrote:


This may be too small to preserve the branding elements; perhaps we can 
focus on colors and fonts. 
It looks a little odd using this mark next to a bullet point, could you 
color the bullet points appropriately, or use the black and white 
version of the mark as a bullet point?

--
 
  This quickly becomes a typesetting exercise.. web pages are 
difficult compared to print. A custom bullet-point etc

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I like this change as it is - all things considered . 
 --Brian

 

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On 12 July 2017 at 07:37, Vicky Vergara  wrote:

Hello, I did try with the "(Star plus OSGeo) with below 'Incubation 
Project'." But for a logo that is 18 pixels high the words are 
unreadable. 
The projects do have that logo for example:

https://cvvergara.github.io/osgeolive/add-petit-logo/en/overview/deegree_overview.html

Regards
Vicky

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Marc Vloemans 
 wrote:


Hi Cameron,
 
I rather have it along the proposed family of logos; logo (Star plus 
OSGeo) with below 'Incubation Project'. 
This is how the designer intended to keep one brand, but with various 
differentiations. 


Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans
 

Op 12 jul. 2017 om 06:00 heeft Cameron Shorter 
 het volgende geschreven:


Hi Marketing Committee,
Vicky has suggested a great improvement for our OSGeo-Live jump page, 
putting an OSGeo logo next to OSGeo applications. Example here:

https://cvvergara.github.io/osgeolive/add-logo-left/en/overview/overview.html
I'm suggesting we should be distinguishing between OSGeo graduated 
projects (use existing full logo) and community projects, (use a 
smaller logo, which just has the central compass and not the outer 
ring.)


https://github.com/camerons/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/logo/images/logos/OSGeo_compass.png

https://github.com/camerons/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/logo/images/logos/OSGeo_compass_small.png
Any comments from the committee on such a variation on the logo?
 

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[Live-demo] Space on DIsk - was GMT

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Space on Disk :
 
  there are several important decisions pending.. 
Interested participants may find a detailed disk-space accounting as 
part of the build process.. 
Please see the build logs for some build, preferably post-Beta1 so we 
can discuss. 
 
 Second, we will have at least 8GB on a USB medium for upcoming events. 
The 4GB space limit comes from a file size the represents the stored 
file system. 
In some cases, this SquashFS file is not a limitation. 
Therefore, extra care ought to be taken to differentiate where a 4GB 
limit matters.. 
 

best regards from Berkeley
 --Brian
 
 
 
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 09:51:53 0200, Bas Couwenberg  wrote:

On 2017-07-11 09:37, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
Note that MB-system relies on GMT. 
0 on removing the application - it has a good installer and does not

take up a lot of place - no conflicts with other packages


GMT size is an issue in OSGeo-Live. 


gmt depends on gmt-gshhg & gmt-dcw to be truely useful (but are only
Recommends due to their size), but gmt-dcw is not included due to disk
space, see:

https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/136

And the related discussion with upstream:

http://gmt.soest.hawaii.edu/issues/972#note-3

Kind Regards,

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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Revert to previous OSGeo-Live logofor 11.0 release, keep new OSGeo logo in docs

[Brian M Hamlin]

revert logo
+1
 
  The OSGeo rebranding begins (?) at FOSS4G, and the Live has a 
seperate timeline. 
-Brian

 
 
 
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:47:10 0300, Angelos Tzotsos 
 wrote:


Hi all,

We have been discussing the new logo situation for a few weeks now and
it seems there are issues with all suggested new OSGeo-Live logos. 
I feel that we should not hurry to prepare a new OSGeo-Live logo for the

upcoming 11.0 release, while at the same time I would like to keep the
work done by Jody including the new OSGeo logo in our docs. 


So I would like to propose to keep the previous OSGeo-Live logo for our
web site banner, and use the new OSGeo logo for the project quickstarts
and overviews. Also I propose to use the new OSGeo logo in our desktop
backdrop image to support the OSGeo re-branding project. 


There is a pull request for this motion:
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/277

Here is my 1,
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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire PyWPS from OSGeo-Live 11.0

[Brian M Hamlin]

retire PyWPS

 
  no opinion - this is a relatively inconsequential piece of technology
-Brian

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:36:02 0300, Angelos Tzotsos 
 wrote:


Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had a veto vote (-1) on
removing PyWPS from the disk. 
PyWPS quickstart has not been working for some time now [2] and we did
not hear back from the maintainers so far. 
I would like to make an override motion (majority vote) for removing
PyWPS from 11.0 release. 


Here is my 1,
Angelos

[1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/#osgeolive.2017-06-26.log
[2] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1886

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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire MB-System from OSGeo-Live11.0

[Brian M Hamlin]

retire mb-system
-0
 
  I personally am not going to fix mb-system in time for the release,
and I believe there are problems now.. I dont want to see it go.. 
therefore, minus zero

 
  -Brian
 
 
 
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:31:54 0300, Angelos Tzotsos 
 wrote:


Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had a veto vote (-1) on
removing MB-System from the disk. 
Given the fact that there has been no activity from the new

maintainer/volunteer with a revised MB-System quickstart, I would like
to make an override motion (majority vote) for removing MB-System from
11.0 release. 


Here is my 1,
Angelos

[1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/#osgeolive.2017-06-26.log

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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire GMT from OSGeo-Live 11.0

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retire GMT
-1
 
the reason for that is, GMT is on a similar footing as GRASS
it is two decades of work, but from a previous time. 
My understanding of the mission of OSGeo, is to do librarianship to 
keep exactly this kind of project. 
 
I believe that the docs are a minor thing, and can be changed quickly 
in time for the release

  -Brian
 
 
 
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:26:06 0300, Angelos Tzotsos 
 wrote:


Hi all,

Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had two veto votes (-1) on
removing GMT from the disk. 
Given the fact that there has been no pull request with a revised GMT

quickstart, I would like to make an override motion (majority vote) for
removing GMT from 11.0 release. 


Here is my 1,
Angelos

[1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/#osgeolive.2017-06-26.log

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Re: [Live-demo] openhub.net stats

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Hi Jody -
  thanks very much for your careful efforts .. 
 
  The utility of having a single "source of truth" for lines of code, 
activity and some language profile, has slightly outweighed the 
undesirable dynamic of a FOSS dot-org requiring a third-party service 
constantly to understand its own projects.   Personally, I feel OSGeo 
should have this ability in-house, along with other methods, and not 
rely so heavily on this one metric site. Certain project's measurements 
are horribly wrong to this day, and inevitably carry bias of varying 
kinds. 
 

  best regards from Berkeley
  -Brian M Hamlin
 
 
 
 
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:59:16 -0700, Jody Garnett 
 wrote:


I was looking 
at https://www.openhub.net/p/geotools/analyses/latest/languages_summary today and noticed a distinct stairstep pattern every time the geotools project migrated repository CVS, SVN, 
GIT. 
This made the project appear at 2 million lines of code, rather than 
one million. 
 
I have removed the old repositories, making the project appear younger 
than it is, but giving more accurate stats about what is there. 
 
I am under the impression OSGeo Live enjoys these stats? feedback welcome. 
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Re: [Live-demo] FOSS4G Boston 2017 Assist (bootable USB)

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Hi Guido -
 
  my best judgement at this time says -- do not call it 'bootable'
 
A USB thumb drive with branding is a fine thing, useful and (quietly) 
reusable too. 
I think we can make use of as much storage as the budget can get.. 
16GB, 32GB or more. 
 

  however, all things considered, we should no advertise it as a boot medium
  best regards from Berkeley, California
 
--Brian M Hamlin
 
 
On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 20:24:43 , Guido Stein  wrote:

Thank you for the information. 


On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:28 PM - -  wrote:

Hi Guido,

A vendor I have worked with in the past is Mixonic 
(http://mixonic.com). Their operations manager is Hunter 
hdreid...@mixonic.com


Last time I talked with them about cloning bootable was back in 2013, 
to remind Hunter you can reference  [Ticket#201302281188] Bootable 
Flash Drives?


He'll be able to let you know if they can still do them. It does 
require sending them a working master copy. Which either Brian and or I 
could possibly do. 


Thanks,
Alex


On July 5, 2017 at 11:55 AM Guido Stein  wrote:


I am putting in orders for many different things for the conference right
now but am having a hard time finding a usb vendor with quick turnaround
who can create a bootable drive. 


Do any of you have a recommendation for how to get this done? We are going
to make an order for about 1,000 of these so doing it manually may not be
an option, unless you have a really neat trick on how to do it 100 drives
at a time. 


Thanks for any help on this,

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[Live-demo] Geoserver 2.10 startup on OSGeoLive pre11

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ge.DefaultStorageFinder] - *** Found Java 
environment variable GEOSERVER_DATA_DIR set to 
/usr/local/lib/geoserver-2.10.4/data_dir, using it as the default prefix. ***
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [storage.DefaultStorageFinder] - 
***
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [gwc.config] - Initializing GeoServer specific GWC 
configuration from gwc-gs.xml
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [config.GeoserverXMLResourceProvider] - Will look for 
'geowebcache-diskquota.xml' in directory 
'/usr/local/lib/geoserver-2.10.4/data_dir/gwc'. 
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [config.GeoserverXMLResourceProvider] - Will look for 
'geowebcache-diskquota-jdbc.xml' in directory 
'/usr/local/lib/geoserver-2.10.4/data_dir/gwc'. 
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [diskquota.ConfigLoader] - DiskQuota configuration is not 
readable: gwc/geowebcache-diskquota.xml
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [diskquota.ConfigLoader] - DiskQuota configuration is not 
readable: gwc/geowebcache-diskquota.xml
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [diskquota.DiskQuotaMonitor] - Setting up disk quota 
periodic enforcement task
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [diskquota.DiskQuotaMonitor] - 0 layers configured with 
their own quotas. 
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [diskquota.DiskQuotaMonitor] - 22 layers attached to 
global quota 500.0 MB
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [diskquota.DiskQuotaMonitor] - Disk quota periodic 
enforcement task set up every 10 SECONDS
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/TestWfsPost] 
onto handler 'wfsTestServlet'
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/wfs/*] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:46 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/wfs] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:49 INFO [org.geoserver] - GeoServer configuration lock is enabled
29 Jun 18:47:49 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/wms] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:49 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/wms/*] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:49 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/animate/*] 
onto handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:49 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/animate] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/ows/**] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/ows] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path 
[/gwc/service/**] onto handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [geowebcache.GeoWebCacheDispatcher] - Invoked 
setServletPrefix(gwc)
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [georss.GeoRSSPoller] - Initializing GeoRSS poller in a 
background job... 
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [georss.GeoRSSPoller] - No enabled GeoRSS feeds found, 
poller will not run. 
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [rest.RESTDispatcher] - Created RESTDispatcher with 15 
paths
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [wms.WMSService] - Will NOT recombine tiles for non-tiling 
clients. 
29 Jun 18:47:50 INFO [wms.WMSService] - Will proxy requests to backend that are 
not getmap or getcapabilities. 
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/kml] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/kml/*] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/kml/icon/**/*] 
onto handler 'kmlIconService'
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/wcs] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [ows.OWSHandlerMapping] - Mapped URL path [/wcs/*] onto 
handler 'dispatcher'
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [geoserver.security] - Start reloading user/groups for 
service named default
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [geoserver.security] - Reloading user/groups successful 
for service named default
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [geoserver.security] - AuthenticationCache Initialized 
with 1000 Max Entries, 300 seconds idle time, 600 seconds time to live and 3 
concurrency level
29 Jun 18:47:51 INFO [geoserver.security] - AuthenticationCache Eviction Task 
created to run every 600 seconds
2017-06-29 18:47:51.549:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:main: Started 
o.e.j.w.WebAppContext@96532d6{/geoserver,file:/usr/local/lib/geoserver-2.10.4/webapps/geoserver/,AVAILABLE}{/geoserver}
2017-06-29 18:47:51.570:INFO:oejs.ServerConnector:main: Started 
ServerConnector@2f69d246{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:8082}
2017-06-29 18:47:51.571:INFO:oejs.Server:main: Started @15131ms

##-- listing --
user@live11-beta1:~$ ls /usr/local/lib | grep et
geonetwork/
user@live11-beta1:~$ ls /usr/lib | grep et
bluetooth/
gettext/
glib-networking/
libITKIOMeta-4.9.so.1
libITKMetaIO-4.9.so.1
libitkNetlibSlatec-4.9.so.1
libitkv3p_netlib-4.9.so.1
libossimPlanetQt.so.1@
libossimPlanetQt.so.1.8.20
libossimPlanet.so.1@
libossimPlanet.so.1.8.20
libqgis_networkanalysis.so.2.14.14
NetworkManager/

 
 
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[Live-demo] Jump 1.11 on OSGeoLive 11

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sort of has a catchy sound to it, no?
This is for FOSS4G Boston in August, and others worldwide.. 
 
The OSGeo-Live team is pleased to announce Beta1 of the 11th edition. 
We are a week behind schedule, but things are looking solid, very much
in part because Ubuntu 1604 base, and excellent tech from many groups. 
 

Enclosed is a terminal log from starting OpenJUMP 1.11 in a VM
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---JUMP_HOME---
/usr/lib/OpenJUMP-1.11
---JAVA---
Using 'java' found in '/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin'
openjdk version "1.8.0_131"; OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 
1.8.0_131-8u131-b11-0ubuntu1.16.04.2-b11); OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 
(build 25.131-b11, mixed mode);

---LD_LIBRARY_PATH---
./lib/native/gdal-linux-x64:./lib/native/gdal-linux-x64/lib:./lib/native/gdal-linux-x64/java:./lib/native/x64:./lib/native:./lib/ext:
---PATH---
./lib/native:/home/user/bin:/home/user/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/usr/lib/gmt/bin:/usr/lib/gmt/bin:/opt/rasdaman//bin:/opt/rasdaman//bin
---CLASSPATH---
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Re: [Live-demo] osgeo live coordination with osgeo branding

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Nicolas -

  we can work together on the formats.. I have detailed experience
with print and screen graphics formats.
 
 cheers
   --Brian

On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:03:54 +0200, Nicolas Roelandt  wrote:

  Hi Jody,

Thanks for those informations.

Maybe. I'm afraid I'm a land surveyor and I don't know much about
graphics. Just the basics I get when I learned GIS.Seems that EPS, can
contains both vector and raster data so I should be able to use it in
the Gimp or inkskape.

I would like to avoid aliasing as more as i can.

Is there a new color chart coming with the new branding ? How did you
produce those documents ?

The page 14 in 006_Branding_sketch seems to be a nice start for a wallpaper.

Best regards,

Nicolas Roelandt
2017-06-17 20:24 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett :

  It would also be good to coordinate updating the osgeo live
logo; Nicolas I have an EPS copy of the logo if that can help? 
It is unclear to me if the graphics designed is handling sub-brands
like OSGeo live, or if it is something we are expected to do once we
have the logo / font / color choices in hand.
 

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On 17 June 2017 at 10:36, Nicolas Roelandt  wrote:

  Hi Jody,

Thanks for the update on that matter. When the logo change will happen ?

I think you or Cameron can send me the new logo in svg, so i can use it
for the next release wallpaper ?

Best regards ?
2017-06-17 19:22 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett :

  Taking up from a conversation with Cameron. 
Over on the marketing committee mailing list we are redoing the
branding for OSGeo. The designer is going through and creating the
templates and collateral now in order to refine the visual ideas for a
style guide.
 
For context:
- Website and Branding May Update
- osgeo-logo.png
- color and font
 
Anything we can do to roll out this new branding would be both timely
and appreciated. Cameron is a member of both the marketing committee
and osgeo live and should be able to help with any coordination.
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Re: [Live-demo] Jupyter branch in OSGeoLive docs

[Brian M Hamlin]

online just now I had a chat with CameronShorter, and we agreed not to 
introduce a new Jupyer docs page without a "champion" for it.. 
 -Brian

 
 
On Wed, 14 Jun 2017 12:37:45 -0700, Brian M Hamlin 
 wrote:


Hi All -
 
  I have a local docs build now, and when setting upstream branch of
the git repo to the Github OSGeo, I saw the branches there. 
There is a Jupyter branch from a year ago (611 commits behind master)

 
  Do we let go of this ?  How best to proceed.. 
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[Live-demo] Jupyter branch in OSGeoLive docs

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Hi All -
 
  I have a local docs build now, and when setting upstream branch of 
the git repo to the Github OSGeo, I saw the branches there. 
There is a Jupyter branch from a year ago (611 commits behind master)

 
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[Live-demo] R spatial package stack on OSGeo Live 11 - FOSS4G 2017

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All R Maintainers:
 
  I have an appointment with Karthik Ram from Berkeley Instituate of Data 
Science  and rOpenSci
this Friday at 10:30 AM (Pacific Time)
I will bring with me the current pre11 build of R package list.
 
   Any other comments or suggestions welcome.
 
  Last year, I spoke with Karthik and Scott Chamberlain from rOpenSci about the 
R stack.. 
They expressed interest in the future, so we shall see where things are now. 
 
  best regards from Berkeley, California
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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Guido -  we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on 
Freenode #osgeolive. 
We will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding.. the 
details will be decided,

roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work
 
  best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
   --Brian M Hamlin
 
 
On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 , Guido Stein  wrote:

So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin  wrote:

So - USB Sticks
 
  TL;DR   
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time.. 
It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do. 
 
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will 
be able to boot a laptop,

others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI
-
  The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was.. 
We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions.. the

process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive,,  We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors.. 
 
  The USB Sticks are not the same..   We have not made many runs of them.. 
 
  Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges.. 
One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,

and that would be the same for a DVD format.. but the Second is .. that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack.. The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. 
Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way. 
 

  The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work.. but it is hard
to get right.. the DVD in later versions suffered from this also.. 
 

 
 
On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 , Guido Stein  wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently. 
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help. 
 

-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett  wrote:

If we did a large "printing run" in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe. 


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On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list. 


In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times. 

Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you. 


Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick. 


Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett  a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff. 


Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?

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On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald  wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer. 

I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. 
Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€. 


Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody). 


I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick. 


Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett  a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess). 


I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. 
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On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gera

Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

[Brian M Hamlin]

 workshops also. 

I hope to hear back from you. 

Best regards,

Gérald Fenoy
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[Live-demo] ipython upgrade via conda

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Python 2.7 upgrade via Anaconda distribution
28May17 -dbb
=
 
The Anaconda Python install solution is widely used and respected for 
Scientific Python. 
In the pre11 Live VM, I am looking around and taking notes.. 
 
* there is a minimal bootstrap shell script, which does not require the 
entire set of packages to be stored locally. 
The README does encourage the user to get the entire setup locally, 
like some other install solutions on Mac

and Linux, however it is not required.  miniconda [0]
 
* there is an advertisement for "conda cloud" as well as the license 
agreements.. and also at least two opaque
binary blobs in the install script. However, there is also an MD5 
checksum and script linecount clearly documented,
so the security is adequate in my opinion. It is a third party product 
and the relationship would have to be with
that third party, as far as content and license.. 
 
* there is a minimal set of bootstrap packages, with versions .. this 
is useful!  we should get in synch with this ! [1]

 
* the install is per-user by default.. NOT in the system python areas.. 
  PREFIX=$HOME/miniconda2

 
* installed miniconda2 for Python 2.7 64bit, transcript excerpts below  [2]
 
* cartopy is not available with this setup.. therefor IRIS is not 
possible either

 
 
 
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[0] miniconda Python 2.7 64bit current
#!/bin/bash
# Copyright (c) 2012-2017 Continuum Analytics, Inc. 
# All rights reserved. 
#

# Name: Miniconda2
# Version: 4.3.14
# Packages: 25
# PLAT:  linux-64
# DESCR: 4.3.1
# BYTES:  28826662
# LINES: 370
# MD5:   0d76ee42d687f1a14fe73b5ed7f2e604

[1] package versions from the Python 2.7 installer bootstrap
python-2.7.13-0
extract_dist python-2.7.13-0
extract_dist cffi-1.9.1-py27_0
extract_dist conda-env-2.6.0-0
extract_dist cryptography-1.7.1-py27_0
extract_dist enum34-1.1.6-py27_0
extract_dist idna-2.2-py27_0
extract_dist ipaddress-1.0.18-py27_0
extract_dist libffi-3.2.1-1
extract_dist openssl-1.0.2k-1
extract_dist pyasn1-0.1.9-py27_0
extract_dist pycosat-0.6.1-py27_1
extract_dist pycparser-2.17-py27_0
extract_dist pyopenssl-16.2.0-py27_0
extract_dist readline-6.2-2
extract_dist requests-2.12.4-py27_0
extract_dist ruamel_yaml-0.11.14-py27_1
extract_dist setuptools-27.2.0-py27_0
extract_dist six-1.10.0-py27_0
extract_dist sqlite-3.13.0-0
extract_dist tk-8.5.18-0
extract_dist yaml-0.1.6-0
extract_dist zlib-1.2.8-3
extract_dist conda-4.3.14-py27_0
extract_dist pip-9.0.1-py27_1
extract_dist wheel-0.29.0-py27_0

[2]
user@live-pre11:~/conda_misc$ echo $PATH
/home/user/conda_misc/mini2/bin:/home/user/bin:/home/user/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
user@live-pre11:~/conda_misc$ ls mini2/bin
2to3*  conda-env*   easy_install*  openssl*  
python@ python-config*  tclsh8.5*
activate*  c_rehash*    easy_install-2.7@  pip*  
python2@    smtpd.py*   wheel*
conda* deactivate*  idle*  
pydoc*    python2.7*  sqlite3*    wish8.5*

user@live-pre11:~/conda_misc$ conda install numpy matplotlib pandas scipy
Fetching package metadata . 
Solving package specifications: . 


Package plan for installation in environment /home/user/conda_misc/mini2:

The following NEW packages will be INSTALLED:

    cairo:    1.14.8-0 
    cycler:   0.10.0-py27_0
    dbus: 1.10.10-0
    expat:    2.1.0-0  
    fontconfig:   2.12.1-3 
    freetype: 2.5.5-2  
    functools32:  3.2.3.2-py27_0   
    glib: 2.50.2-1 
    gst-plugins-base: 1.8.0-0  
    gstreamer:    1.8.0-0  
    icu:  54.1-0   
    jpeg: 9b-0 
    libgcc:   5.2.0-0  
    libgfortran:  3.0.0-1  
    libiconv: 1.14-0   
    libpng:   1.6.27-0 
    libxcb:   1.12-1   
    libxml2:  2.9.4-0  
    matplotlib:   2.0.2-np112py27_0
    mkl:  2017.0.1-0   
    numpy:    1.12.1-py27_0
    pandas:   0.20.1-np112py27_0
    pcre: 8.39-1   
    pixman:   0.34.0-0 
    pycairo:  1.10.0-py27_0
    pyparsing:    2.1.4-py27_0 
    pyqt: 5.6.0-py27_2 
    python-dateutil:  2.6.0-py27_0 
    pytz: 2017.2-py27_0
    qt:   5.6.2-4  
    scipy:    0.19.0-np112py27_0
    sip:  4.18-py27_0  
    subprocess32: 3.2.7-py27_0 

user@live-pre11:~/conda_misc$ conda install ipython
Fetching package metadata . 
Solving package specifications: . 


Package plan for installation in environment /home/user/conda_misc/mini2:

The following NEW packages will be INSTALLED:

    backports: 1.0-py27_0  
    decorator: 4.

[Live-demo] ipython upgrade via pip

[Brian M Hamlin]

Jupyter update in OSGeo-Live pre11
20May17 -dbb


OS Environment:
 OSGeo-Live  (May 10 09:33)  osgeo-live-nightly-PR161-amd64-daace19.iso

--
user@live-pre11:~$ sudo apt-get install libpython2.7-dev
  ... 
user@live-pre11:~$ sudo pip install --upgrade notebook

  (Python 2.7 package change details summarized)

REMOVED:  none
UPDATED:    vers_prev   vers_new
  ipython   4.0.2   5.3.0
  ipykernel 4.2.2   4.6.1
  jinja2    2.8.0   2.9.6
  jupyter-client    4.1.1   5.0.1
  jupyter-core  4.0.6   4.3.0
  notebook  4.2.1   5.0.0
  pyzmq 15.0.2  16.0.2
  tornado   4.2.1   4.5.1
-
  ipython-genutils  0.1 0.2
  nbconvert 4.1.0   5.1.1
  nbformat  4.0.1   4.3.0
-
  decorator,enum34,jsonschema,Markupsafe,mistune,pexpect
  pickleshare,ptyprocess,Pygments,pyparsing,python-dateutil,traitlets

ADDED:
  appdirs
  backports-abc
  backports.shutil-get-terminal-size
  bleach
  certifi
  configparser
  html5lib
  packaging
  pandocfilters
  pathlib2
  prompt-toolkit
  scandir
  testpath
  wcwidth
  webencodings

 
===
Notes:

  * the primary change in ipython CLI version is  4.0 -> 5.3
  * jupyter-client  4.1 -> 5.0
  * jupyter-core    4.0 -> 4.3
  * notebook meta-package  4.2 -> 5.0
 
* Many minor utils are also minor updates along stable projects
  in other words, the minor utilities needed for the new setup
  are not breaking changes and unlikely to be breaking changes. 


* No one can predict where in the chain of python interdependancies
  one package may declare strict version requirements instead of
  "greater than or equal to" dependancies, however the python
  ecosystem seeks to stabilize itself generally. This combination
  of package updates tends to work in the modern time. 
  The Debian packaging python chain is not the only definition
  of a working set of packages. 


* numpy, matplotlib, pandas and other major SciPy components,
  were not touched

* within the very active and well-managed IPython and Jupyter
  projects, component version numbers are not entirely harmonized
  to this day. 


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Re: [Live-demo] Fwd: Re: Geoserver, THREDDs and ncWMS on OSGeo-Live

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Ben -
 
  I was reviewing some old emails regarding Unidata THREDDs server and 
OSGeo-Live for netCDF and others, and I noticed that in a reply, you 
say :

 
 (as I know GeoServer much better than THREDDS)
 
   This is great to read today.. perhaps I can let go of the idea 
that Unidata THREDDs is important for the OSGeo-Live project. We never 
got real attention, although there was some interest from Unidata 
people.. 
 

  best regards from Berkeley, California
   --Brian M Hamlin
 

On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 17:08:58 1300, Ben Caradoc-Davies 
 wrote:


Brian,

what is the process for building the full OSGeo Live image itself? The
top-level README refers to bin/main.sh which does not exist. 


I got pretty far even on a LUbuntu Live VM, with git manually installed,
as an experiment. I will make a proper VM. I stuck with 16.04 as you
advised, not 16.04.1. I was able to use the script to install GeoServer
2.8.3 and the INSPIRE and CSS extensions. I think an upgrade to 2.10.x
is in order. I will need to check that we can use OpenJDK 8. 


I plan to join next week's IRC meeting. I have been following the
mailing list but not yet made myself known. I know Cameron from when I
worked in Australia, and I am probably closer to him in distance and
time zones in New Zealand than when I worked in Perth!

Kind regards,
Ben. 


On 03/11/16 05:47, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
Hi Ben - a friendly reminder about this topic -- please let me know 
if you have questions about setting up a Geoserver on OSGeo-Live 
dev.cheers --BrianOSGeo California ChapterOSGeo-Live PSC  
Original Message 

Subject: Re: Geoserver, THREDDs and ncWMS on OSGeo-Live
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:37:28 -0400
From: "Brian M Hamlin" <mapl...@light42.com>
To: b...@transient.nz


Hi Ben -

thanks for the reply, great to hear you are interested in GEOSERVER

Source code for the Live build system is dual-hosted on Github.com
and git.osgeo.org/gogs

https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/osgeo/OSGeoLive

The approach I use is :

clone the git repo

make a VM with -unpatched- LUbuntu 1604

clone -your- git repo of the live, make a working branch, in the VM 
once it is booted


run a few of the startup scripts (save time, ask a lot of questions here !)

In particular, I focus on python and netCDF, PostGIS / Postges, and 
some others. So I just run the install scripts that are needed for 
that.. a few blemishes are left because the SETDOWN finish does some 
housekeepping, but basically that is good and works.. they are 
well-behaved installers... 

There are a few conventions about setting up the USER assets, just 
data in a certain directory .. its not at all obscure. Again, please 
save time ans ask lots of questions


We can set up a modern GEOSERVER and get to adding some stores and 
layers and styles. I personally have done a few CSS styles, but fall 
back to SLD when in a hurry. My current GEOSERVER is 2.7x, so there 
are certainly things I dont know


We are focused on "Reference install; carefully chosen examples; 
Showcase apps"


Definitely speak up on the list .. and also I can help you get 
started at your convenience.. 


best regards from Berkeley, California
--Brian


On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:44:56 1300, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

Brian,

I am happy to put my hand up for getting GeoServer into the next OSGeo
Live (as I know GeoServer much better than THREDDS). How is OSGeo Live
organised (mailing lists and resources)? What would you like from me?

I am also in touch with Ian Turton whom I think gave Cameron Shorter
some advice for a previous version of GeoServer in OSGeo Live. I have
let the GeoServer committee know about this activity. 


Kind regards,
Ben. 


On 03/10/16 07:07, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
> Hi Ben -
>
> I was reading the geoserver users mail list just now, saw your 
name, and then looked a bit at your site. 
> I am an editor on the OSGeo-Live.. over the years, I have 
focused on PostGIS, related projects,
> netCDF python stack and a few others.. This past OSGeo-Live 10 
is notable for the GDAL 2x stack. 
>

> http://live.osgeo.org (I also do the cover artwork)
> http://ct.light42.com/www_shared/osgeolive_related/
>
> In the coming dev cycle, with Live 10.5 due in January, I will 
be focusing on Openstreetmap. 
> Personally I am an intermediate level user of Geoserver.. 
>
> It has always been in the back of my mind that our OSGeo Live 
Geoserver could use
> a bit of attention, and that hiliting the THREDDS server is 
something we should collaborate
> with domain experts on.. In fact, we have a long-standing open 
invitation with the THREDDs
> people, but nothing has shipped yet.. 
>

>
> Would you be interested in either Geoserver or THREDDs on the 
OSGeo Live ?

> Do you know anyone else that would be ?
>
> thanks in advance
> ---
> Brian M Hamlin
> OSGeo California Chapter
> blog.light42.com
>



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[Live-demo] Interest in Boston 2017 General Session ?

[Brian M Hamlin]

International Conference for Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial
  FOSS4G 2017
  August 14-19, 2017  --  Boston, MA
=
Q. Do members of this list and other interested parties, *want* a 
general session on the Live ?

  possible topics include:
 
* Introduction - an interesting tour of whats NEW and whats GREAT
 
* Tech Talk - the way it works to build this setup, mostly but not all, 
Debian packaging

 
* Reboot -  thigns have stabilized a little too much, a reboot is 
coming and this could be a

conversation about it
 
* Other ?
--
 today is the deadline apparently, so if there is going to be 
something, it has to be submitted.. 
best regards from Berkeley, California

  --Brian
 

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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Invite Nicolas Roelandt (baka niko) to joinOSGeo-Live Project Management Committee

[Brian M Hamlin]

-0  
 
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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Invite Ben Caradoc-Davies to joinOSGeo-Live PMC

[Brian M Hamlin]

 
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[Live-demo] Fwd: Re: [psycopg] Releasing Linux binary packages of psycopg

[Brian M Hamlin]

interesting..   --Brian

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [psycopg] Releasing Linux binary packages of psycopg
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 03:29:57 +
From: Daniele Varrazzo 
To: "psyc...@postgresql.org" 


I have set up a Travis CI project to build the manylinux wheels and
upload them on the server.

https://github.com/psycopg/psycopg2-wheels

I would love to have the same system extended to building binary
distribution for OSX and possibly for Windows too. Any help is
welcome.

-- Daniele


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[Live-demo] Fwd: [postgis-devel] Docs broken for other languages

[Brian M Hamlin]

 
.. just noticed this, no details. 
--Brian


 Original Message 
Subject: [postgis-devel] Docs broken for other languages
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 14:37:40 -0200
From: George Silva 
To: PostGIS Development Discussion 









Hello all,
 
I know I haven't been helping as I should regarding documentation and our 
migration from Transifex, but we've managed to translate all of the strings 
for pt-br.
 
We just tried to download the compiled PDF and access the HTML, but it's 
not there.
 
We are getting 404's for all other languages. Examples:

* http://postgis.net/docs/manual-dev/postgis-es.html";>http://postgis.net/docs/manual-dev/postgis-es.html
* http://postgis.net/docs/manual-dev/postgis-br.html";>http://postgis.net/docs/manual-dev/postgis-br.html
* http://postgis.net/docs/manual-dev/postgis-ja.html";>http://postgis.net/docs/manual-dev/postgis-ja.html




 

The process of building the docs is disabled for foreign languages?
 

How can we help?
 

George


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[Live-demo] Fwd: JPP-Devel trunk ready for releasing OJ 1.10?

[Brian M Hamlin]

 OpenJUMP 1.10 is getting close !

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] trunk ready for releasing OJ 1.10?
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:26:08 +0100
From: edgar.sol...@web.de


thanks.. but no need. if you look inside those, you'll see that the logic for a 
new version is already outsourced to our sf.net files space where we host a 
osgeo.conf and the files itself
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP/osgeo/

testing the changes would be appreciated though ;)

..ede

On 22.01.2017 18:20, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
> 
>  Hi All - I am volunteering to update the install scripts here,  when you are 
> ready--
> 
> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_openjump.sh
> 
> --
>   thanks and good winds to you 
> --Brian
> 
> 
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:02:29 +0100, Micha wrote:
> 
> Hi Ede,
> 
> Nice. I would not have thought about delegating line wrapping to swing 
> html renderer. Works fine.
> 
> Everything seems ready for a great 1.10 release...
> 
> Michaël
> 
> 
> Le 22/01/2017 à 16:53, edgar.sol...@web.de a écrit :
>> hey Mike,
>>
>> please try r5334 wrt. to the wizard group list issue.. ede
>>
>> On 17.01.2017 17:19, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>>> comments inline below
>>>
>>> On 17.01.2017 15:50, Michaël Michaud wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the delay, I've been offline a few days.
>>>>
>>>> I've just two points :
>>>>
>>>> - I'd like to commit a new version of graph extension (should be ready 
>>>> today).
>>> go ahead
>>>
>>>> - I'm not convinced by the last change to beautify open/save wizard.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the result (before/after) with the french locale.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I must make wizard names shorter (french tends to be much longer 
>>>> than english)
>>>> Or maybe it is possible to write names on two lines ?
>>>> Or may be the icon/text should left aligned rather than centered?
>>>>
>>>> Any opinion ?
>>> yeah, you guys need to much words... for everything ;P
>>>   
>>>> Before (nice) :
>>>>
>>>> after (not so nice) :
>>> let me have a look at it w/ your locale enabled. in the worst case i drop 
>>> the change and all stays as before.. ede
>>>   
>>>> Michaël
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 16/01/2017 à 18:59, Giuseppe Aruta a écrit :
>>>>> ok for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 16/Gen/2017 11:23, > ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>  hey All,
>>>>>
>>>>>  from my side i'd say we are ready. what do you guys say?
>>>>>
>>>>>  ..ede
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[Live-demo] UEFI Notes Misc

[Brian M Hamlin]

fwd msg:
---
I am not a reader of this 
group but I was asked by someone who does read it (Brian ed.) whether I could help with booting 
the osgeo iso on UEFI machines.

I made some experiments. The 
following is a summary that I hope will be useful.

references:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/395879/how-to-create-uefi-only-bootable-usb-live-media";
 rel="noopener noreferrer" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" 
target="_blank">http://askubuntu.com/questions/395879/how-to-create-uefi-only-bootable-usb-live-media
this is the most 
relevant

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276498"; rel="noopener 
noreferrer" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" 
target="_blank">https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276498
Thread: How to Create a 
EFI/UEFI GRUB2 Multiboot USB drive to boot ISO images

https://sourceforge.net/p/unetbootin/wiki/howitworks/"; rel="noopener 
noreferrer" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" 
target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/p/unetbootin/wiki/howitworks/

I tried unetbootin. Almost 
worked but not quite.
copying iso as file system 
using dd ; not quite.

ISO loopback method

# I use debian. I assume here 
that /proc/partitions
# shows your usb stick as 
/dev/sdb
sudo apt install 
grub-efi-amd64-bin  gdisk grub
sudo sgdisk --zap-all 
/dev/sdb  # I like zap-all , it gives me a good feeling.
# Remove usb drive and 
reinsert it to guarantee the kernel registers the change.
sudo sudo sgdisk --new=1:0:0 
--typecode=1:ef00 /dev/sdb
sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 -n 
GRUB2EFI /dev/sdb1
# Now you have formated fat32 
drive using gpt. Check with gparted.

# mount it:
sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 
/mnt

# At this point you might try 
doing as suggested by
#  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276498"; rel="noopener 
noreferrer" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" 
target="_blank">https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276498
# but I had more promising 
results from
# http://askubuntu.com/questions/395879/how-to-create-uefi-only-bootable-usb-live-media";
 rel="noopener noreferrer" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" 
target="_blank">askubuntu.com/questions/395879/how-to-create-uefi-only-bootable-usb-live-media
# which I follow 
below.

# create a 
grub-image:
grub-mkimage -o bootx64.efi -p 
/EFI/BOOT -O x86_64-efi \
 fat iso9660 part_gpt 
part_msdos \
 normal boot linux 
configfile loopback chain \
 efifwsetup efi_gop 
efi_uga \
 ls search search_label 
search_fs_uuid search_fs_file \
 gfxterm 
gfxterm_background gfxterm_menu test all_video loadenv \
 exfat ext2 ntfs btrfs 
hfsplus udf
# This creates the file 
"bootx64.efi".
# I find this command 
nonintuitive.

# Write the following to 
"grub.cfg"

set timeout=13
set 
color_highlight=black/light-magenta

menuentry 'Boot 
osgeo-live-10.5alpha1-amd64 from ISO' {
    set 
isofile="/EFI/BOOT/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso"
    loopback loop 
$isofile
    linux 
(loop)/casper/vmlinuz.efi boot=casper iso-scan/filename=$isofile noprompt 
noeject  splash --
    initrd 
(loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
# options like "quiet 
persistent" may be added to options above..
# Write files to usb drive 
thusly:
/mnt/EFI
/mntb/EFI/BOOT
/mntb/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi
/mntb/EFI/BOOT/grub.cfg
/mntb/EFI/BOOT/osgeo-live-10.5alpha1-amd64.iso

I tried such a usb drive on a 
MacBook which I was told was UEFI

I got grub menu, it started 
loading the kernel. After a few score
lines of boot-up output 
messages it hangs, "loading nouveau.fb"
presumably that is a problem 
in the iso.

 
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Re: [Live-demo] ISO not isohybrid, lacks UEFI support

[Brian M Hamlin]

 Hi All

  this  line of build steps looks promising .. my own small investigations into 
the UEFI boot process raised more questions than answers, so I am grateful to 
see a new set of resources applied to the problem.  

  Specifically, I had not seen nor heard of,  GNU xorriso, and  I had not gone 
through Ticket #1761 in detail.

  great news, and I will make time to test a bit soon
  best from Berkeley, California
   --Brian


 On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:55:17 +1100, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

Sounds promising Ben.

Looks like size won't be an issue with what you are proposing.

I'd be interested to hear if Brian has any comments. Brian has burned a 
lot of USBs for prior conferences and might have some feedback on things 
to look out for.

Cheers, Cameron

On 6/12/2016 3:54 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> Cameron,
>
> in my first test, isohybrid and UEFI support increases the size of the 
> ISO image by only 411648 bytes.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ben. 
On 6/12/2016 4:08 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> Angelos,
>
> I think I have a working solution:
> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/142
>
> Not yet tested on physical hardware. The ISO should now work after 
> being written to a raw thumb drive with dd, just like the official 
> Ubuntu and Lubuntu ISO images.
>
> All of these boot in QEMU:
>
> QEMU test as "cdrom":
> $ qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -cdrom 
> osgeo-live-nightly-build6-amd64-ab426ef.iso
>
> QEMU test as MBR boot thumb drive (which boot as first hard disk):
> $ qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -hda 
> osgeo-live-nightly-build6-amd64-ab426ef.iso ^C
>
> QEMU test as UEFI boot thumb drive (OVMF Tianocore UEFI BIOS):
> $ qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -bios /usr/share/ovmf/OVMF.fd 
> -hda osgeo-live-nightly-build6-amd64-ab426ef.iso
>
> Boot equipment looks good to me:
>
> $ xorriso -indev osgeo-live-nightly-build6-amd64-ab426ef.iso 
> -report_el_torito plain -report_system_area plain
> xorriso 1.4.6 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project.
>
> xorriso : NOTE : Loading ISO image tree from LBA 0
> xorriso : UPDATE : 502 nodes read in 1 seconds
> xorriso : NOTE : Detected El-Torito boot information which currently 
> is set to be discarded
> Drive current: -indev 'osgeo-live-nightly-build6-amd64-ab426ef.iso'
> Media current: stdio file, overwriteable
> Media status : is written , is appendable
> Boot record  : El Torito , MBR isohybrid cyl-align-off GPT
> Media summary: 1 session, 2069246 data blocks, 4041m data, 7489m free
> Volume id: 'OSGEOLIVE10'
> El Torito catalog  : 164  1
> El Torito cat path : /isolinux/boot.cat
> El Torito images   :   N  Pltf  B   Emul  Ld_seg  Hdpt Ldsiz LBA
> El Torito boot img :   1  BIOS  y   none  0x  0x00 4 165
> El Torito boot img :   2  UEFI  y   none  0x  0x00 4736 185
> El Torito img path :   1  /isolinux/isolinux.bin
> El Torito img opts :   1  boot-info-table isohybrid-suitable
> El Torito img path :   2  /boot/grub/efi.img
> System area options: 0x0202
> System area summary: MBR isohybrid cyl-align-off GPT
> ISO image size/512 : 8276984
> Partition offset   : 0
> MBR heads per cyl  : 0
> MBR secs per head  : 0
> MBR partition table:   N Status  TypeStart   Blocks
> MBR partition  :   1   0x80  0x000  8278016
> MBR partition  :   2   0x00  0xef  740 4736
> MBR partition path :   2  /boot/grub/efi.img
> GPT:   N  Info
> GPT disk GUID  :  c22a598de644cf4ababebbce02526bc1
> GPT entry array:  2  128  overlapping
> GPT lba range  :  34  8277982  8278015
> GPT partition name :   1 
> 490053004f004800790062007200690064002000490053004f00
> GPT partname local :   1  ISOHybrid ISO
> GPT partition GUID :   1  ddfce2b743e69e439dd9fd1b0859474c
> GPT type GUID  :   1  a2a0d0ebe5b9334487c068b6b72699c7
> GPT partition flags:   1  0x
> GPT start and size :   1  0  8276984
> GPT partition name :   2  490053004f00480079006200720069006400
> GPT partname local :   2  ISOHybrid
> GPT partition GUID :   2  fd17fc2ba0182c4490c1d617372125de
> GPT type GUID  :   2  a2a0d0ebe5b9334487c068b6b72699c7
> GPT partition flags:   2  0x
> GPT start and size :   2  740  4736
> GPT partition path :   2  /boot/grub/efi.img
>
> Kind regards,
> Ben.
>
>
> On 06/12/16 07:40, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>> Angelos,
>>
>> I will see if I can get genisoimage+isohybrid to work. If not, I will
>> try xorriso, which seems to be under more active development.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Ben.
>>
>> On 04/12/16 23:22, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> It is a known fact that Ubuntu has switched its build process closer to
>>> the Debian iso build process.
>>> I contacted several Ubuntu developers (specifically those who are
>>> responsible for the iso creation) during our previous dev cycle. 
>>> Here is
>>> the information gathered back then:
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1761
>>>
>>> We de

Re: [Live-demo] GeoKettle source code

[Brian M Hamlin]

Thank you Pirmin --
  a quick look [0] at Pentaho suggests it is very active, and using 
cloud systems etc..
One wonders what the geokettle story is .. I wish the geokettle team all the 
best..

  --Brian
 
[0] http://www.pentaho.com/connect/events


On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:55:38 + (UTC), Daniel Araujo Miranda 
 wrote:










Thanks Pirmin! I missed that 
entirely. I apologize for all the noise.

 

I have mirrored the svn to 
mirandadam/geokettle to make it easier to find in the future.

 

Best,

Daniel



 

 







Em Segunda-feira, 28 de Novembro de 2016 12:20, Pirmin Kalberer 
 escreveu:

 
Am Montag, 28. November 
2016, 15.16:06 schrieb Pirmin Kalberer:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I followed the link from the GeoKettle Homepage to the trac instance 
with
> the source code of 2.6:
> http://trac.spatialytics.com/geokettle/browser/trunk"; 
rel="nofollow" shape="rect" 
target="_blank">http://trac.spatialytics.com/geokettle/browser/trunk
> The last changes seem to be 2 years old:
> http://trac.spatialytics.com/geokettle/timeline?from=08%2F13%2F14"; 
id="yiv6772075544yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480753077512_86757" rel="nofollow" 
shape="rect" 
target="_blank">http://trac.spatialytics.com/geokettle/timeline?from=08%2F13%2F14

Correct link to latest changes:
http://trac.spatialytics.com/geokettle/timeline?from=07%2F13%2F14"; 
id="yiv6772075544yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480753077512_86816" rel="nofollow" 
shape="rect" 
target="_blank">http://trac.spatialytics.com/geokettle/timeline?from=07%2F13%2F14

Pirmin


>
> Am Dienstag, 22. November 2016, 12.54:25 schrieb Daniel Araujo Miranda:
> > Hello everyone,    I am now under the strong impression 
that the GeoKettle
> > package in OSGeo-Live violates the GPL in the sense that the source 
code
> > is
> > unavailable. I emailed Thierry Badard about the GeoKettle source code 
and
> > got no answer. Martin Seterstoen got in touch with me directly and 
asked
> > me
> > if I had found the source code already because he also could not find 
it.
> > That person did find the source for an earlier version of 
GeoKettle.
> >
> >    I dug further inside the actual OSGeo-Live distribution 
and found
> >
> > version 2.6 in /usr/local/share/gisvm/bim/install_geokettle.sh at 
the
> > following url:
> > http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/data/geokettle/geokettle-2.6-r192-with_p";
 rel="nofollow" shape="rect" 
target="_blank">http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/data/geokettle/geokettle-2.6-r192-with_p
> > l
> > ugins.zip The GEOKETTLE_README.txt package inside OSGeo-Live 
however,
> > mentions only version 2.5.OSGeo-Live's website also lists this 
package as
> > being version 2.6 of GeoKettle
> > https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/geokettle_overview.html"; 
rel="nofollow" shape="rect" 
target="_blank">https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/geokettle_overview.html
> >
> > To sum up:    I can't find the source. I have 
officially given up looking
> > for it and am now actively poking people to see if it comes out 
:-)
> >
> > I would like to ask:0. Please point me to the source if it is 
available
> > and
> > I have fumbled my google-fu, my find-fu and my grep-fu. 1. Is this 
list
> > the
> > right place for inquiries about OSGeo-Live packages that might 
violate the
> > GPL? (in the sense that the source code is unavailable) 2. If so, 
please
> > take steps to either remove that package from OSGeo-Live or publish 
the
> > source code somehow. That might be a topic for discussion in the 
next
> > OSGeo-Live meeting.
> >
> > Best,Daniel Araujo Miranda
> > Forensics ExpertBrazilian Federal Police
> >
> >    Em Quarta-feira, 26 de Outubro de 2016 18:31, Daniel 
Araujo Miranda
> >
> > daniel_a_mira...@yahoo.com.br>
 escreveu:
> >  Hello,I apologize in advance if I have missed something 
obvious, but
> >  where
> >
> > is the source code for GeoKettle? I just picked up geokettle 
seriously for
> > the first time as a candidate for doing some heavy lifting here at 
work.
> > After realizing that it has not been updated in three years, I tried 
to
> > fetch the source code to take a look. Searching said source code 
already
> > took more than an hour now. The trac and the forum are offline, 
the
> > documentation link in the project's homepage is broken and 
SourceForge
> > only
> > has the packaged application. It is an amazing project and a worthy 
part
> > of
> > OSGeo-Live, I'd hate to see it abandoned.
> >
> > Best,Daniel

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Re: [Live-demo] Python 2 and 3 in the field today

[Brian M Hamlin]

 Here at UC Berkeley, it seems that far more people use the Anaconda 
distribution  system,than any Debian python packaging. The Mac OS is perhaps 
more than fifty percentof  serious science users, by casual observation, and 
the pain and dysfunction of the Windows ecosystem continues to drive many 
decisions about packages. Python programming is meant to be portable, and it 
is. That is a substantial portion of the benefitof choosing python.I do not 
believe that the Debian python packaging policies have much effect on 
scientific programmers here, whichever OS they use.  --Brian

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:04:33 +0100, Sebastiaan Couwenberg  wrote:

On 11/11/2016 05:24 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
> this article was linked in the YCombinator News feed today..
> 
> 
https://semaphoreci.com/blog/2016/11/11/python-versions-used-in-commercial-projects-2016-edition.html

It only going to see more adoption now that Ubuntu has switched the
default Python to 3.x since xenial.

The Debian Python Policy also documents the use of Python 3 for programs
when they support it, and recommend to not package them for Python 2.
Libraries should always be packaged for Python 3, and when applications
only support Python 2 should the library be packaged for Python 2 as well.

 https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-python3.html

With QGIS 3 switching to Python 3, adoption in the geospatial ecosystem
will be pushed forward too.

Kind Regards,

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[Live-demo] Python 2 and 3 in the field today

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All - 


this article 
was linked in the YCombinator News feed http://webmail.light42.com/#"; 
ng-click="createEventConfirmDialog('Fri Nov 11 2016 08:22:37 GMT-0800 
(PST)');$event.preventDefault()" rel="noopener noreferrer" 
target="_blank">today..

https://semaphoreci.com/blog/2016/11/11/python-versions-used-in-commercial-projects-2016-edition.html";
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target="_blank">https://semaphoreci.com/blog/2016/11/11/python-versions-used-in-commercial-projects-2016-edition.html

 
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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 10.5 schedule updates

[Brian M Hamlin]

As far as I know (AFAIK)  -- the reason the New Year release is moved, is to 
avoid working during the Winter Holidays. I would prefer not to work during the 
holidays this year, myself.best regards from Berkeley, California  --Brian On 
Thu, 13 Oct 2016 07:04:36 +1100, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

Angelos,
We will be running into our usual problem of having major decision 
points happening over the Christmas holiday period. (Possibly more of a 
issue for us in the Southern Hemisphere because it is our long summer 
holiday period). However, moving a few weeks either way doesn't really 
help much.

One thing I suggest we consider is whether we decide to drop back to 1 
release per year. OSGeo-Live is more stable than it used to be, and I 
question the return-on-effort we gain by putting out 2 releases per year.

Warm regards, Cameron.


On 13/10/2016 12:20 AM, Bas Couwenberg wrote:
> On 2016-10-12 14:45, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>> So to keep schedule somehow balanced, I think we need to move 10.5
>> release a bit in order to keep the 6 month cycle. Instead of targeting
>> for 10th of March, I propose we go for 10th of February this year.
>>
>> Can you please review and comment on the proposed dates?
>> Is anyone aware of an important date/conference around February/March
>> that we should target for?
>
> Note that the OSGeo-Live 10.5 cycle overlaps the key release dates for 
> the next Debian stable release:
>
>  [2016-Nov-05] Transition freeze
>  [2016-Dec-05] Mandatory 10-day migrations
>  [2017-Jan-05] Soft freeze (no new packages, no re-entry, 10-day 
> migrations)
>  [2017-Feb-05] Full freeze
>
> This may or may not be a good thing.
>
> From the Soft freeze date packages for Debian will likely be uploaded 
> to experimental if they are not intended for inclusion in stretch.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
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Re: [Live-demo] [postgis-devel] PostGIS 2.3.0 and pgRouting 2.3.0 are released

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All -

  first of all, congratulations on this release.  So fast, my head is spinning 
.. 

Now, on to the details.. . I see some functions in the pdf manual, marked 

  Availability 2.3.0  Requires GEOS >= 3.6.0 

GEOS is at 3.6 now ?!?

Some of you may know that OSGeo-Live is closely related to DebianGIS packaging,
The packaging chain is certainly not even close to using GEOS 3.6 now..  

https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/geos.git/

More info on GEOS 3.6, please.

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Re: [Live-demo] Poll: yet another osm desktop

[Brian M Hamlin]

Option 2  +1
 
  -Brian

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 23:55:39 +0200, Luca Delucchi  wrote:

  On 26 July 2016 at 23:18, Astrid Emde  wrote:

Hello,



Hi,


I would prefer 2. New OSM desktop

It is clearer than the first version.

But I like version 1. too.



+1 I also prefer version 2


Astrid



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[Live-demo] yet another osm desktop

[Brian M Hamlin]

 
http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/10.0/desktop10_osmF.png
 
  thoughts on this for FOSS4G  ?
 

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[Live-demo] OSM, Kosmtik, node-mapnik

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi -
 
  catching up on FOSSGIS video.. 
In this presentation [0], Phillip Beelman tells us that he worked at Geofabrik 
for more than a year 
(a center of the OSM universe) .. Phillip is using a tech-stack in his demo of 
Kosmtik, NodeJS and node-mapnik. 
 
For the OSGeo-Live.. on the one side, there is little NodeJS software within 
OSGeo (some OL3 harness only)
yet, there is clearly a development direction in some groups of using a nodeJS 
backend as core dev environment
(javascript driven on both client and server)
 
  In the IRC log, sebastic says the Debian packaging NodeJS setup was not 
affected by the Node repo meltdown. 
 
  onward .. 
 
[0]  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUO2QY6c2HY
 
 
  also interesting : http://overpass-turbo.eu/

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[Live-demo] osm coastline (was python-osmium ?)

[Brian M Hamlin]

On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 21:42:39 0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg 
 wrote:


On 07/09/2016 07:47 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote:

* osmcoastline, builds:
- osmcoastline
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/osmcoastline


Of the various new osmium packages, only osmcoastline is affected by
GDAL transitions. It will need to be rebuilt with GDAL 2.1 from the
nightly PPA if you want to use it OSGeo-Live. 

 
regarding coastline, a quick search reveals:
 
  * natural_earth2 database has a table called   ne_10m_land  that 
defines coastline in parts

 
  *  install_gmt.sh:# install high res world coastline (currently 
disabled due to disc space concerns)

 
 
  * install_osm.sh:# # GRASS GIS commands to turn the .osm coastline 
segment into a closed shapefile polygon

       commented out by the author hamishb, for many Live versions now
 
  * install_zygrib.sh:# zygrib-maps package is 8.6mb (contains NOAA's 
GSHHS coastline)

 
  * Q. list all packages installed in beta1 mentioning osm  (no 
coastline found)

 
dbb=# select * from parseout10_beta1 where pkg_name ~ 'osm'
  order by pkg_name,script_name;
 
    script_name     | action |       pkg_name       
++--
 install_osm        | NEW    | imposm
 install_osm        | NEW    | josm
 install_osm        | NEW    | libosmpbf-java
 install_spatialite | NEW    | libreadosm1
 install_osm        | NEW    | osm2pgsql
 install_osm        | NEW    | osmctools
 install_osm        | NEW    | osmium-tool
 install_osm        | NEW    | osmosis
 install_osm        | NEW    | python-imposm
 install_osm        | NEW    | python-imposm-parser
 install_osm        | NEW    | python-osmapi
(11 rows)
 
 
 

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[Live-demo] python-osmium ?

[Brian M Hamlin]

looking around in OSM more.. 
 
  https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass
 
    does not seem to show   python-osmium
 
  yet, this pull request shows some activity
 
   https://github.com/osmcode/pyosmium
 
 
https://github.com/osmcode/pyosmium/commit/3115629c6b811767b41f033a2463cd4acbdf40b7
 
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  should we add  pyosmium somehow ?
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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live team needs help: Someone who looks afterOSM data, tools and writes documentation is needed

[Brian M Hamlin]

Here is the ticket for the OSM City replacement task:
 
    https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1698
 
Luca, Marco .. can you each log in to the trac system and add a simple
comment on that ticket, to test ?
 
Can we each make a Pull Request using the current setup ?  Either
using GitHub,
or OSGeo git (preferred)
 
  https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/osgeo/OSGeoLive
 
  best regards from Berkeley, California
   --Brian M Hamlin
 

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:07:11 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

  Hi Luca and Marco,

Thank you both for volunteering for this task.

The current OSM setup is based on the following installers:

1. https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_mapnik.sh

Here we need to drop Tilelite and replace it with either Tilestache or
apache mod_tile.
Both of them are already in our ppa:
https://launchpad.net/%7Eosgeolive/+archive/ubuntu/nightly/+sourcepub/6542077/+listing-archive-extra
https://launchpad.net/%7Eosgeolive/+archive/ubuntu/nightly/+sourcepub/6542090/+listing-archive-extra

Input from Bas regarding which to use:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1701#comment:1
Feel free to add your suggestions.

2. https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_osm.sh

Here we need at least to make sure we update the featured city to be
Bonn. More suggestions/comments/pull requests are welcome :)

3. https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/load_postgis.sh#L96

Here we import data to PostGIS since they have already been downloaded
from install_osm.sh.

Hope the above help.

Best,
Angelos

On 06/14/2016 12:56 PM, Luca Delucchi wrote:

On 11 June 2016 at 13:06, Astrid Emde  wrote:

Hello OSM enthusiasts,


Hi,


This is what you have to do - don't worry, it should not be too much work ;)
* provide the up-to-date software every half a year when a new version of
OSGeo-Live is coming out
* check the documentation (Overview and Quickstart) -> is there anything to
update
* provide new up-to-date OSM data (f.e. for version 10.0 we will provide
data from Bonn where FOSS4G 2016 will be in august)
* provide a quickstart (tutorial to help people to get to know OSM and make
the first steps) - this quickstart does not exist at the moment and has to
be written
* OSM covers data and OSM tools (like JOSM) which are not documented yet
** we only have a documentation for Mapnik
http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/mapnik_overview.html

Are you interested? If yes - please let us know. (subscribe to the
OSGeo-Live (Live-demo) mailing list [4] or write to astrid_e...@osgeo.org)


I'm interested, how do you think to proceed? do you get other volunteers?


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Re: [Live-demo] Chair for Project Management Committee forOSGeo-Live

[Brian M Hamlin]

+1
Brian

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:50:58 -0700, Alex Mandel  wrote:

  +1

-Alex

On 06/07/2016 05:05 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:

+1

I agree it is a logical choice!

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:52 PM, massimo di stefano
 wrote:

+1 Massimo

@Angelos, thnx for the hard work!

On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:49 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

We haven't had any PSC members vote on this.

To make things official, could we please get votes from PSC members
(including new members) on proposal to have Angelos act as OSGeo-Live chair.

+1 Cameorn


On 3/06/2016 9:00 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Brian, Alex, Angelos,
Welcome to our new OSGeo-Live PSC. (Hamish hasn't responded, and I think it
inappropriate to include him on the PSC without him accepting).

We need to pick a committee chair. The only difference between a chair and a
normal member is they have 1.5 votes to act as a tie breaker in voting.

I'd like to nominate Angelos for this role.

+1 Cameron

I'll start another email thread to discuss populating the PSC with new
members.


On 21/05/2016 8:06 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

As suggested in this week's IRC meeting,
We would like to kickstart the OSGeo-Live Project Steering Committee with
the core team from prior releases listed in our credits page [1]
Angelos Tzotsos, Cameron Shorter, Hamish Bowman, Alex Mandel and Brian
Hamlin

Angelos, Hamish, Alex, Brian,
Would you do us the honour of accepting a position on the first official
OSGeo-Live PSC?

Once the first PSC has been established, we would like to invite in people
who would like to help coordinate OSGeo-Live, who also have a track record
contributing to the project. Our aim is to be inclusive in selection of the
PSC. As per our PSC page [2], these are the expectations of PSC members:

* Regularly contribute to OSGeo-Live or related activities
* Help with whatever dirty work is required to keep the project moving
forward
* Monitor OSGeo-Live conversations, either in weekly IRC meetings, or on the
email list, and contribute constructively where appropriate
* Vote promptly (within days) to motions being raised

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/13
[2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management

On 16/05/2016 6:57 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Hi Angelos,
I agree. I've tweaked the wording such that a -1 vote from the community
results in referring to the PSC. I've left the PSC vote to be based on
majority votes. I'm anticipating that the PSC will have already been
involved in the community voting, and referring to the PSC will be rare.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 15/05/2016 9:28 pm, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

I am wondering if a -1 should be considered veto, at least for the first
round of voting.
I propose that the second round should be a majority vote.

On 05/15/2016 12:24 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

In order to align closer with OGeo-Live incubation principles, we agreed on
the last OSGeo-Live weekly meeting to document and formalise our management
in a Project Management Committee.

I've put together a draft here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management

Comments welcomed.
I'm hoping to tweak wording, select the first PSC, and formalise adoption at
our next IRC meeting:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=5&day=20&hour=20&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=189&p3=224&p4=22&p5=240&p6=196&p7=215






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Re: [Live-demo] Inviting new members for the OSGeo-Live ProjectManagement Committee

[Brian M Hamlin]

+1
Brian

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:02:00 +1000, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

  +1 Cameron

On 6/06/2016 7:40 pm, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

  Hi all,

I would like to nominate Astrid Emde for the OSGeoLive PSC.
Astrid has been heavily involved in OSGeoLive development (MapBender
maintainer), various presentations in conferences, and one of the most
active translation maintainers (second to Cameron, see link).
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/graphs/contributors

Best regards,
Angelos

On 06/03/2016 02:13 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

  As per below, we would like to populate the newly formed OSGeo-Live PSC.

If you know someone who you think would be good on the committee, and
who fits the criteria below, then please consider suggesting them.

Please ask the person before nominating them, then raise a proposal
recommending they join the PSC. Anyone can nominate another person
(including nominating yourself). The PSC will vote to have people join
(or not).

I'm hoping to see lots of nominations.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 21/05/2016 8:06 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

  As suggested in this week's IRC meeting,
We would like to kickstart the OSGeo-Live Project Steering Committee
with the core team from prior releases listed in our credits page [1]
Angelos Tzotsos, Cameron Shorter, Hamish Bowman, Alex Mandel and Brian Hamlin

Angelos, Hamish, Alex, Brian,
Would you do us the honour of accepting a position on the first
official OSGeo-Live PSC?

Once the first PSC has been established, we would like to invite in
people who would like to help coordinate OSGeo-Live, who also have a
track record contributing to the project. Our aim is to be inclusive in
selection of the PSC. As per our PSC page [2], these are the
expectations of PSC members:

* Regularly contribute to OSGeo-Live or related activities
* Help with whatever dirty work is required to keep the project moving forward
* Monitor OSGeo-Live conversations, either in weekly IRC meetings, or
on the email list, and contribute constructively where appropriate
* Vote promptly (within days) to motions being raised

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/13
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Re: [Live-demo] Inviting new members for the OSGeo-Live ProjectManagement Committee - Massimo Di Stefano

[Brian M Hamlin]

+1
Brian

On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:15:23 -0700, Alex M  wrote:

  +1
Alex

On 06/03/2016 01:07 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

I'd like to propose Massimo Di Stefano (epifanio) to join the OSGeo-Live
PSC.

He has been involved in OSGeo-Live right from the start, and over the
last few years has been building up Notebook capability for OSGeo-Live.

+1 Cameron

On 3/06/2016 9:13 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:


As per below, we would like to populate the newly formed OSGeo-Live PSC.

If you know someone who you think would be good on the committee, and
who fits the criteria below, then please consider suggesting them.

Please ask the person before nominating them, then raise a proposal
recommending they join the PSC. Anyone can nominate another person
(including nominating yourself). The PSC will vote to have people join
(or not).

I'm hoping to see lots of nominations.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 21/05/2016 8:06 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

As suggested in this week's IRC meeting,
We would like to kickstart the OSGeo-Live Project Steering Committee
with the core team from prior releases listed in our credits page [1]
Angelos Tzotsos, Cameron Shorter, Hamish Bowman, Alex Mandel and
Brian Hamlin

Angelos, Hamish, Alex, Brian,
Would you do us the honour of accepting a position on the first
official OSGeo-Live PSC?

Once the first PSC has been established, we would like to invite in
people who would like to help coordinate OSGeo-Live, who also have a
track record contributing to the project. Our aim is to be inclusive
in selection of the PSC. As per our PSC page [2], these are the
expectations of PSC members:

* Regularly contribute to OSGeo-Live or related activities
* Help with whatever dirty work is required to keep the project
moving forward
* Monitor OSGeo-Live conversations, either in weekly IRC meetings, or
on the email list, and contribute constructively where appropriate
* Vote promptly (within days) to motions being raised

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/13
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Re: [Live-demo] Inviting new members for the OSGeo-Live ProjectManagement Committee

[Brian M Hamlin]

+1
Brian

On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:27:49 -0700, Alex M  wrote:

  +1
Alex

On 06/03/2016 05:16 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

+1
Angelos

On 06/03/2016 03:08 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

I'd like to nominate Johan Van de Wauw to join the OSGeo-Live PSC.

Johan has been a regular contributor to OSGeo-Live discussions,
packaging and presentations.

He provides valuable advise and I think it would be great to have his
advice included in the OSGeo-Live PSC.

+1 Cameron


On 3/06/2016 9:13 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:


As per below, we would like to populate the newly formed OSGeo-Live PSC.

If you know someone who you think would be good on the committee, and
who fits the criteria below, then please consider suggesting them.

Please ask the person before nominating them, then raise a proposal
recommending they join the PSC. Anyone can nominate another person
(including nominating yourself). The PSC will vote to have people
join (or not).

I'm hoping to see lots of nominations.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 21/05/2016 8:06 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

As suggested in this week's IRC meeting,
We would like to kickstart the OSGeo-Live Project Steering Committee
with the core team from prior releases listed in our credits page [1]
Angelos Tzotsos, Cameron Shorter, Hamish Bowman, Alex Mandel and
Brian Hamlin

Angelos, Hamish, Alex, Brian,
Would you do us the honour of accepting a position on the first
official OSGeo-Live PSC?

Once the first PSC has been established, we would like to invite in
people who would like to help coordinate OSGeo-Live, who also have a
track record contributing to the project. Our aim is to be inclusive
in selection of the PSC. As per our PSC page [2], these are the
expectations of PSC members:

* Regularly contribute to OSGeo-Live or related activities
* Help with whatever dirty work is required to keep the project
moving forward
* Monitor OSGeo-Live conversations, either in weekly IRC meetings,
or on the email list, and contribute constructively where appropriate
* Vote promptly (within days) to motions being raised

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/13
[2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management


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Re: [Live-demo] Inviting new members for the OSGeo-Live ProjectManagement Committee - Sebastian Couwenberg

[Brian M Hamlin]

+1
Brian

On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:27:31 -0700, Alex M  wrote:

  +1
Alex

On 06/03/2016 07:09 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

+1
Angelos

On 06/03/2016 03:24 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

I'd also like to nominate Sebastian Couwenberg for the OSGeo-Live PSC.

Sebastian does a lot of work with packaging applications for
DebianGIS, which feeds into OSGeo-Live. Building from that, Sebastian
has been very helpful helping with OSGeo-Live packaging.

+1 Cameron

On 3/06/2016 9:13 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:


As per below, we would like to populate the newly formed OSGeo-Live PSC.

If you know someone who you think would be good on the committee, and
who fits the criteria below, then please consider suggesting them.

Please ask the person before nominating them, then raise a proposal
recommending they join the PSC. Anyone can nominate another person
(including nominating yourself). The PSC will vote to have people
join (or not).

I'm hoping to see lots of nominations.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 21/05/2016 8:06 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

As suggested in this week's IRC meeting,
We would like to kickstart the OSGeo-Live Project Steering Committee
with the core team from prior releases listed in our credits page [1]
Angelos Tzotsos, Cameron Shorter, Hamish Bowman, Alex Mandel and
Brian Hamlin

Angelos, Hamish, Alex, Brian,
Would you do us the honour of accepting a position on the first
official OSGeo-Live PSC?

Once the first PSC has been established, we would like to invite in
people who would like to help coordinate OSGeo-Live, who also have a
track record contributing to the project. Our aim is to be inclusive
in selection of the PSC. As per our PSC page [2], these are the
expectations of PSC members:

* Regularly contribute to OSGeo-Live or related activities
* Help with whatever dirty work is required to keep the project
moving forward
* Monitor OSGeo-Live conversations, either in weekly IRC meetings,
or on the email list, and contribute constructively where appropriate
* Vote promptly (within days) to motions being raised

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/13
[2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management


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[Live-demo] Press Release (sample)

[Brian M Hamlin]

. this looks good ..  "pro forma"

  http://www.earthobservations.org/articles_news.php?id=133

-
Title
place and date

title again

    what just happened (in short form)

    who is involved

    achievements and notable accomplisments for the project

    what just happened in detail

    quotes from prominent individuals

    secretarial details of organization and project

    coming events

    contact information

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[Live-demo] PostGIS 2.2 and gdal2, what is ahead ?

[Brian M Hamlin]

PostGIS people -

  looking here:

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial

  I see PostGIS 2.2 in the list.. opening the details, finds the source 
description (dot-dsc)

postgis_2.2.1+dfsg-3~xenial0.dsc

  inside, the Build-Depends:

libgdal-dev (>= 1.11.2+dfsg-3~) | libgdal1-dev (>= 1.9.0~)

  Q. How does that fit with gdal2 ?   

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[Live-demo] misc dia

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trying out a few graphs, as thinking material for install scripts:

  
http://blog.light42.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/base10_java.dot_.png
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Re: [Live-demo] Update GeoMoose to 2.9.0

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Jim -
 
  several parts to this: workflow is now in 'git' .. currently,
primarily at Github.com,
so an update to a script is a "pull request". git workflow has several
possibilities, but a reliable pattern is ...
 
Clone the Master Repo
   - clone the master repository to your own repository somewhere
 
New Branch
   - make a new git branch for your feature, give it a descriptive name
   - ensure you are editing on that branch..the "current branch" is
your new feature branch...
 
Edit and Commit
   - make the changes as you see fit; commit those changes
   - make sure the changes are visible on the network ..
   if you had a local repo push branch to YOUR CLONE of the project
 
Make a Pull Request
   - make a "pull request" to the master git repo from your net-visible repo
   - Github.com has a simple interface to this, but it is optional to
use those features
   - if you have new binary resources, make those visible on the net somewhere
 
Changes are Reviewed
   - a full build is executed using a named branch, so the revision
can be built for testing.
   - if things look good, the named branch is merged to master, and
the feature branch is deleted
 
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Debian Packaging:
   there is an ambitious and detailed effort to bring much of the
software stack
into Debian Packaging... at a minimum, Debian GIS 
https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/
a.k.a.   pkg-grass  gets dot-deb files with their source descriptions
dot-dsc into their workflow.
 
At the UbuntuGIS PPA level, there are also packages, mostly and largely
based on Debian GIS,
but not the exact same content. Please *do* consult with the Debian
packagers on this list and elsewhere
on their preferred methods !
 
 
  comments and corrections welcome 
  best from Berkeley, California
  --Brian
 

On Mon, 23 May 2016 13:39:36 -0500, Jim Klassen  wrote:

  All,

In response to the Kicking off OSGeo-Live 10.0 build process, was
thinking it would be good to update the installed version of GeoMoose to
the current stable version. But, it looks like things have changed a
bit since the last time I updated the GeoMoose installer for OSGeo-Live.

What is the current process for updating GeoMoose from 2.8.0 to 2.9.0?

Jim Klassen

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[Live-demo] misc Friday meeting

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Hi All -

  I may miss the meeting today on IRC, due to the "Data by the Bay" conference 
where I am a track manager this week. 

  The only news I have for the Live is that I wrote one email after the last 
meeting, to a core contributor to Java THREDDs. I have heard nothing back yet. 

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Re: [Live-demo] PyWPS application

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uitable example application? ~ 250KB

We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use of a
common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the example
datasets already installed:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets If
another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it
appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may already be
included in the standard release.
Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview available
under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC By-SA license.
(You may release under a second license as well). Will you produce
this? Yes

In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers for some
applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in future
releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing to include
Windows and/or Mac installers? Yes, this is feasible given the very
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[Live-demo] netCDF build install, part III

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. documenting and tooling the build process on OSGeo-Live 9.5, using netCDF as 
an inquiry, here is a draft page -- feedback welcome

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Re: [Live-demo] netCDF4 libs

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. side note, I found this interesting:

##===
dbb=# select * from dsc_bdepends where bdepends ~ 'hdf5' order by 
bdepends, dsc_name, ppa_name;
   ppa_name   |               dsc_name               | 
                  bdepends                   |  bd_constr  
-- -- 
-- -
 stable_dsc   | gdal_1.11.2 dfsg-1~exp2~trusty       | libhdf5-dev 
                                 | (>= 1.8.8)
 unstable_dsc | gdal_1.11.2 dfsg-1~exp2~trusty       | libhdf5-dev 
                                 | (>= 1.8.8)
 testing_dsc  | gdal_2.0.2 dfsg-5~trusty0            | 
libhdf5-dev                                  | (>= 1.8.8)
 testing_dsc  | gdal_2.1.0 dfsg-1~trusty0            | 
libhdf5-dev                                  | (>= 1.8.8)
 testing_dsc  | gdal_2.1.0 dfsg-1~trusty1            | 
libhdf5-dev                                  | (>= 1.8.8)
 testing_dsc  | gdal_2.1.0 dfsg-1~xenial0            | 
libhdf5-dev                                  | (>= 1.8.8)
 unstable_dsc | insighttoolkit4_4.5.2-1otb3~trusty2  | libhdf5-dev   
                               | ()
 stable_dsc   | cartopy_0.11.0-0~trusty1             | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 stable_dsc   | gdal_1.10.0-1~precise1               | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | (>= 1.6.6)
 testing_dsc  | gdal_1.10.0-1~precise1               | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | (>= 1.6.6)
 unstable_dsc | gdal_1.10.0-1~precise2               | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | (>= 1.6.6)
 unstable_dsc | gdal_1.6.1-1~intrepid1               | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 stable_dsc   | gdal_1.9.2-2~precise4                | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | (>= 1.6.6)
 unstable_dsc | insighttoolkit4_4.6.0-3otb2~precise1 | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 unstable_dsc | insighttoolkit4_4.6.0-3otb2~trusty1  | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 unstable_dsc | insighttoolkit4_4.7.1-1otb1~precise1 | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 stable_dsc   | insighttoolkit4_4.7.1-1otb1~trusty1  | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 unstable_dsc | insighttoolkit4_4.7.1-1otb1~trusty1  | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 stable_dsc   | iris_1.6.1-0~trusty2                 | 
libhdf5-serial-dev                           | ()
 stable_dsc   | python-netcdf4_1.1.0-0~trusty1       | 
libhdf5-serial-dev | (>= 1.8.4~)

(20 rows)
 

On Wed, 11 May 2016 07:52:50 0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg 
 wrote:


On 05/11/2016 05:50 AM, Brian M Hamlin wrote:

How can I check the versions of the netCDF stack as things progress ?


That depends. The latest versions available in Debian and upstream are
included in the Debian GIS DDPO:

https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-grass-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org&comaint=yes&version=oldoldstable


Where can I make a pull-request for a trivial change to a package .dsc ?


Package dsc files are generated so changing them makes no sense. You can
discuss changes to the netcdf source packages on the debian-gis list [0]
and/or file a bugreport for the package in question [1]. 


[0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-gis/
[1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

What is a good way to trace UbuntuGIS - testing PPA versions for 
python-netcdf4 -> netcdf-c -> lib hdf5
(there are several, how would *you* do it ) for our next dev-cycle.. 


Define "trace". 


If you're looking for the interdependencies I would parse the Packages
files from the PPA and analyse the Depends fields of the packages in
question. 


Because I have coordinated the recent netcdf transitions, I have a
pretty good idea of the dependency chain. 


netcdf-c (netcdf source package) is at the bottom, everything else
depends on that. netcdf-cxx-legacy, netcdf-cxx, netcdf-fortran &
netcdf4-python all require the netcdf package to build. netcdf in turn
requires hdf5 to build. 


To help prepare transitions, I run a transition tracker [2] using the
ben package [3] also used for Debian [4] & Ubuntu [5]. ben visualizes
the reverse dependencies for packages and marks them as good or bad
based on the regular expressions applied to the fields in the Packages
files (usually just Depends). 


[2] http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/netcdf-c.html
[3] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ben
[4] https://release.debian.org/transitions/
[5] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/

Where is a convenient place to file an update ticket : "netCDF4 
project home page has moved from code.google.com to 
github.com/Unidata; update source description"


Convenient != Appropriate

You should file bugreports in the tracker for the repository in
question, in this case UbuntuGIS/OSGeo-Live. 


If you ver

[Live-demo] netCDF4 libs

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Sebastic, TL;DR summary --

  How can I check the versions of the netCDF stack as things progress ?  
  Where can I make a pull-request for a trivial change to a package .dsc ?

-details-
So, we have several areas of new content, now with DebianGIS (aka pkg-grass) 
getting updated,
and the ubuntugis-testing PPA content ..   I see 

   
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-devel/2016-April/045994.html

which tells me that Unidata python-netcdf4 is very current.. nice... I can see 
the originals
 
  https://github.com/Unidata/netcdf4-python/tree/v1.2.4rel

but reading netcdf-c issues, I see there there is an hdf5 lib that is 
independent

  https://github.com/Unidata/netcdf-c/issues/233        ##-   hdf5 1.8.9 or 
1.8.12

So, two questions in general:

  What is a good way to trace UbuntuGIS - testing PPA versions for 
python-netcdf4 -> netcdf-c -> lib hdf5
    (there are several, how would *you* do it )  for our next dev-cycle.. 

  Where is a convenient place to file an update ticket : 
"netCDF4 project home page has moved from code.google.com to 
github.com/Unidata; update source description"

dsc content:
  stable_dsc | python-netcdf4_1.1.0-0~trusty1 | Homepage          | 
http://code.google.com/p/netcdf4-python/

  make sense ?  thanks
  
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[Live-demo] Java, FOSS and OSGeo Live

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Hi All -

today in planet.debian.net, the Debian Java Packaging Team posted an 
interesting status update for all things Java [0]

Java brings an opportunity and a challenge for OSGeo-Live, at least.  The 
relationship of Java [1], a "write-once, 
run anywhere" development environment, with its libraries, toolchains and 
licensing, to the Debian Project
ecosystem [2] , and then to OSGeo-Live, is not entirely straightforward. Yet, 
some of the biggest tech on the net
is implemented in Java, and increasingly so.. 

An opportuntiy for OSGeo-Live Java is be a reference install, a 
widely-accessible showcase and constructively 
curated repetoire of current, relevent geospatial tech.   How can that evolve ?

A challenge for OSGeo-Live, at least, is to bridge the legal and organizational 
gap between the Debian / Apache
roots of OSGeo.org, and the reality of burgeoning industry, licensing and 
community relationships within
the active Java world. Companies and people have put their efforts into the 
Java platform, and that effort is
non-trivial and often commercially protected. How can the OSGeo-Live, a 
reference install of FOSS software,
respectfully and meaningfully showcase commercially protected software 
alongside Libre libraries and apps,
given fundmental conflicts behind-the-scenes on a number of levels ?

It is the promise of any vital platform to find answers in vigorous 
conversation, and in delivery of excellent tech. 
There is no one answer, and it is up to the communities in question to take an 
active role in determing the 
future. 

The next release of OSGeo-Live is months away, so there is time to work out the 
details. However, the time is now
to understand and engage the large and perhaps growing distance between the 
FOSS Libre software world, and
the commercial directions of the Java platform in all of its manifestations. 
Several individual contributors have done
a lot to make Java on the OSGeo-Live what it is now, and I predict it will take 
more insight, implementation and
ingenuity to make the next release not medicore, but great. 

  best regards from Berkeley, California

[0]  http://java.debian.net/blog/2016/05/whats-new-since-jessie.html
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)
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Re: [Live-demo] pgRouting

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Hi Vicky -
 
  thanks for the "heads up" .. FYI the Live is released twice a year,
so the next version 10.0 will be some months away..
If you or one of your team would like to contribute to the Live, please
take a look at the install scripts ..
the official repository for OSGeo-Live is mirrored on GitHub.com
 
    https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive
 
take a look around there, you should be able to see the
pgRouting-related items fairly quickly,
and post to the list if you have specific questions..
 
 best regards from Berkeley, California

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:02:45 -0500, Vicky Vergara  wrote:

   
Hello,
We made the following releases
osm2pgrouting 2.1.0
pgRouting 2.2.2  
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Hi All,
 
  I have two Xenial machines setup for the last month or so.. doing
some experiments here and there..
One thing I did *not* see was the Ubuntu "Snap" packaging format [0]..
 
  well, this blog post [1] shows how Snap is a bad thing from a
security point of view..
I suggest we stay away from Snap packaging..   more on packaging later..
 
  thanks and best "Earth Day" to you, sincerely   --Brian
 
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[Live-demo] Press Release DRAFT v9.5

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https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_66#OSGeo-Live_9.5_Released

  any thoughts about "geopackage" support ?  major features missing ?

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[Live-demo] OSM Tileserver install wiki page

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Hi OSM'ers

  I noticed these pages today [0] -- any interest in refreshing these when 
UbuntuGIS PPA gets settled ?

[0]  https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/

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Re: [Live-demo] Notebook-review

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+1
 

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:28:36 +1100, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

  Hi Massimo,
I also agree that a review process is in order. I'd actually extend to
suggest that a development process should be described as well, and that
we should align with existing OSGeo-Live documentation processes.

Ie, we should be able to find Notebook processes linked from here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation

I also think that we should describe the processes in the OSGeo-Live
wiki (which uses media wiki) rather than a git wiki. This is to ensure
consistency with the rest of OSGeo-Live. Although I'm open to being
convinced otherwise if there are strong advantages to using a git wiki.

I'd suggest following a similar style to the Quickstart guide:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Application_Quick_Start
For example, create a template Notebook, with comments, that someone
else can follow to create a new Quickstart.

I see our weak point from an OSGeo-Live project's point of view is
sourcing a person or people willing to provide detailed review of the
Notebooks.
In particular, it is a significant time sink reviewing documentation to
ensure it has well formed, concise English, at the standard of a
technical text book. (This is the standard we have been targeting so
far, and I believe Notebooks should also be required to meet this standard).
I'd guess that about 60% of time of creating a good notebook would be in
writing code, 40% in describing it.

Massimo, for context, your docs are quite good, but I'd estimate that
they would be ~ 10% to 20% of your effort would be required to review
the docs to our current standards. Reviewing the English in your
Quickstart took me 3 to 4 hours, and that didn't include running any of
the steps.

Sourcing someone with good English writing skills to write Notebooks
will help the review process a lot.

Cheers, Cameron

On 15/03/2016 5:08 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi Massimo,

I agree that we need a review process for all notebooks (not just GSoC).

+1
Angelos

On 03/14/2016 01:11 AM, massimo di stefano wrote:

From the discussion we had so far it is clear to me we need a
*official revision procedure* to have the work done for the GSoC
integrated into the live.

I agreed in “hiding” the jupyter notebook, and so the GSoC work,
from this release of the Live,
in favor of a transparent public commitment to review the efforts done.

IMHO the spreadsheet approach we use for project review doesn’t
apply very well in this context.
To facilitate keeping track of the review and facilitate potential
new contributors,
I propose to open a motion in accepting the use of github
checklist+issue tracker to keep track of the review process.

I started this page, which should help in making this possible:

https://github.com/epifanio/OSGeoLive-Notebooks/wiki/Notebook-review  > >

We can improve it making it more clear, but should give you the idea.

This motion is to validate the work done during GSoC, which is:

“Development of educational material in the form of interactive notebooks”

and to help the coordination between potential contributors for this
specific topic.



Here it is my +1


Cheers,
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[Live-demo] IPy PR 7 -- SciTools four intro notebooks

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    https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-Notebooks/pull/7

  The Cartopy author Richard Hattersly invites audience members in his 2014 
SciPy talk,
to copy freely from these short, introductory ipy Notebooks on foundation 
SciPy, IRIS, Cartopy

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[Live-demo] thredds server, java netCDF

[Brian M Hamlin]

reviewing this email :

    https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2015-December/010676.html

I notice that the team did recently tag a release 4.6.4

    https://github.com/Unidata/thredds/tree/v4.6.4

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[Live-demo] nik4 add

[Brian M Hamlin]

http://SERVER:PORT/osgeolive_athens  nik4_add

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Re: [Live-demo] New contributor

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Tanuj, Welcome / svaagat he
 
  we have published a beta1 Live, which will be tested, refined and
shipped somewhat soon (!)
There are two major activities -- testing the software, and improving
the documentation. Both are important.
If you would like to learn more about testing the software, I am
pleased to answer your questions.
 
  best regards from Berkeley, California
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:55:58 +0530, Tanuj Kumar  wrote:

  Hello, I'm Tanuj. I am new to open source and I would like to
contribute. Could somebody please guide me on where to start? I know
C++ and can translate to Hindi. I have absolutely no prior experience
of working on open source.

Thank you

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[Live-demo] ipynb iris examples

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Hi All -

  minor change to install_jupyer.sh, and lots of new Notebooks in  IRIS dir

this time around, I made a shallow clone of master branch only

git clone --depth 1 --single-branch --branch master 
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive.git osgeolive_github_master

  then make a new branch##     git checkout -b  jupyter_ipynb_iris

  make some changes.. push the branch to my Kallithea

git push http://SERVER:PORT/osgeolive_athens +jupyter_ipynb_iris

  and .. tell epifanio and kalxas and the list .. more soon

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Re: [Live-demo] build remote

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Angelos -
 
  as indicated in IRC ... my snapshot is LUbuntu 1404 amd64, with updates
 I ran :   bootstrap, setup "nightly", install_services,
install_java, install_tomcat, install_apache, ldconfig, updatedb --
FREEZE
 
. there might have seen some errors on bootstrap / setup
but since I am not in chroot full setup, I moved on.. the most
important thing is the content of /etc/apt/sources.lis.d and the keys
(output pasted:   apt-key list   )
 
running   install_jupyer.sh a second time shows no package errors..
 missing   apt-get update perhaps
 
 so   http://SERVER:PORT/osgeolive_athens ipy-rename2
 
has three changes to bin/install_jupyter.sh  and   git mv
 app-data/ipython  app-data/jupyter
 
 try accepting those changes and re-building, please
 
   --Brian
 
 

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:27:57 +0200, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

  Hi Brian,

I do not understand what you tried to do, did you try specific
installers or did you try to build an iso?
The iso build process is described here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#How_to_do_development_.2F_debugging_with_the_current_build_method

The nightly from last night failed due to this PR:
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/74
which is leading to a broken login I have described in the PR discussion.

I am now building a new iso based only on the Jupyter PR:
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/76

It seems that the glibc patching has affected part of the net and the
downloads are awfully slow today.
https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3481
The build process is taking forever.

Cheers,
Angelos

On 02/17/2016 03:31 AM, Brian M Hamlin wrote:

Hi Angelos -

I am eager to get the Jupyter things resolved.. I just attempted a
build here, but it fails regarding python packages.. there are
conflicts unless the apt sources are set carefully in a certain
order.. So, in the interest of time, I stopped. There is a new VM
here with LUbuntu 1404, and minimal setup as a snapshot, ready for
further testing.

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[Live-demo] build remote

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Hi Angelos -

  I am eager to get the Jupyter things resolved.. I just attempted a build 
here, but it fails regarding python packages.. there are conflicts unless the 
apt sources are set carefully in a certain order..   So, in the interest of 
time, I stopped.  There is a new VM here  with LUbuntu 1404, and minimal setup 
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[Live-demo] Live 9.5 desktop image candidate

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Hi List -

  candidate desktop image here:

    http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/9.5/desktop95_F.png

(F means "flat" not final .. feedback welcome)

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[Live-demo] What, no Github ?

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All -

  You may know, I strongly object to using Github.com as the repository for the 
MASTER copy of an OSGeo.org project. So, I did some research, and installed my 
own git server.. in greek the name is Καλλιθέα (Kallithéa) [0]  It works very 
well - it has many of the "swap branch and compare" features that GitHub.com 
has.. and .. it is federated project management, not Software-as-a-Service 
(SaaS) from a commercial company. 

  So, while making changes to OSGeo Live [1] 9.5 beta .. I will make "pull 
requests" from my own git instance, to the list. Just one problem.. security.. 
I am still learning how to secure this new server setup.. Temporarily, I have 
exchanged  SERVER:PORT information privately with the build-master, Angelos. 
Now his git "knows" the address of my git.. Pull requests from me are assumed 
to be from current MASTER branch.. (oh, also I need to setup the https)

  git pull http://SERVER:PORT/osgeolive_athens  BRANCH

  today, the branch was    rasdaman_log_quiet     ## a patch to get the 
configure/make/make install output out of our master build logs.. 

I am sure people will continue to use Github.com to make pull requests, but 
with some setup, you too can use a distributed, federated model of Open Source 
Software Development, and I encourage you to think through the benefits and 
decide for yourselves. 

[0]  https://kallithea-scm.org/
[1]  https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive

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[Live-demo] Git, GitHub, IPython Notebooks v9.5a

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Hi All -
 
  slowly defining a workflow .. here is the latest TEST ..
 
I converted IPython Notebooks to the current format in a named branch.
This email is notification of the pending change, and after review, a merge.
 
    https://github.com/OSGeo/IPython_notebooks
 
        branch: fixups0
 
Please take a look.. how did you review the changes? 
How will comments/suggestions be recorded ?
 
After this test (and the IPython install stabilizes) we will start new
content.
best regards from Berkeley, California
 
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Re: [Live-demo] Postgis questions

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Hi Pieter --
 
  oh, ok.. thats new to me..
  according to the PostGIS docs page..
   http://postgis.net/docs/postgis_gdal_enabled_drivers.html
 
  those variables can be set at all levels..
  cluster-wide -> postgresql.conf
  database-persistant ->  ALTER DATABASE ...
  database-temp, psql session temp  ->  set 
 
also apparently SHELL with bash-style environment vars, as in .bashrc
 
I would think that all gdal drivers would be enabled by default, and
that really you
need  raster out_db set...  so I look here
    http://postgis.net/docs/postgis_enable_outdb_rasters.html
 
make sense ?
  -Brian

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 19:51:42 +0200, Pieter du Plooy
 wrote:

  Hi Brian

Thx for the info, but what I really need is where to

postgis.gdal_enabled_drivers = 'ENABLE_ALL'

and postgis.enable_outdb_rasters=1

in Ubuntu 14.04, and system wide

I did it previously in my .bashrc, but for some reason its not working now.

Pieter

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Brian M Hamlin  wrote:

  Hi Pieter --
 
  I have an a2 build running in a VM.
 
user@live95a:~$ locate raster.tif   
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Hi Pieter --
 
  I have an a2 build running in a VM.
 
user@live95a:~$ locate raster.tif   
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[Live-demo] ipython install for Live 9.5

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hi all - with a little bit of research, I believe this is our best route 
forward.. 
As you can see in the diff, we use pypi to get version 4 of both IPython and 
the notebook machinery
I propose we build with this As Soon As Possble to start the Notebook demos work

---
commit 9c92a1ff7991339579f6aa868070d7595debf123
Author: darkblue-b 
Date:   Wed Jan 13 15:13:35 2016 -0800
 
    jupyter first pass
 
diff --git a/bin/install_ipython.sh b/bin/install_ipython.sh
index 6a2b8ce..9084592 100755
--- a/bin/install_ipython.sh
+++ b/bin/install_ipython.sh
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ BUILD_DIR=`pwd`
 
 ## 24jan14  change in iPython+numpy+matplotlib
 ## 04jul14  jtaylor iPython
+## 13jan16  jupyter
 
 apt-get install --assume-yes  git python-pip \
         python-matplotlib python-scipy python-pandas \
@@ -40,14 +41,26 @@ apt-get install --assume-yes  git python-pip \
 #pip install cligj  ## per ticket #1455 -- rasterio requirements
 #The deb package in our ppa is way older than the day this requirement was 
added... 
 
+##=
 #-- iPython from jtaylor .deb
-apt-add-repository --yes ppa:jtaylor/ipython
-apt-get update
+#apt-add-repository --yes ppa:jtaylor/ipython
+#apt-get update
 
-apt-get install --assume-yes ipython ipython-notebook ipython-qtconsole
+#apt-get install --assume-yes ipython ipython-notebook ipython-qtconsole
 
 #-- Clean-up
-apt-add-repository --yes --remove ppa:jtaylor/ipython
+#apt-add-repository --yes --remove ppa:jtaylor/ipython
+##==
+
+apt-get install build-essential  python-dev
+
+pip install --upgrade pyzmq
+pip install --upgrade ipython
+pip install --upgrade notebook
+
+apt-get remove build-essential python-dev
+
+##==
 
 cp "$BUILD_DIR"/../app-data/ipython/ipython-notebook*.desktop \
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Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA WorldWind

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ll). Will you produce this?
Yes
 
-In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers for some
applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in future
releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing to include
Windows and/or Mac installers?
Yes
 
 
Best,
Gabriele
 
From: Angelos Tzotsos
Sent: martedì 5 gennaio 2016 18:13
To: Gabriele Prestifilippo
Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA WorldWind
 
Hi Gabriele,
 
Thank you for picking up this task.
 
For the install script, can you please provide a pull request here:
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/tree/master/bin
Proposed script name: install_worldwind.sh
 
Also, you can issue a pull request for the documentation here:
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc
 
In order to accept the pull requests, you will need to confirm that you
will comply with our license guidelines:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Git_migration
 
Best,
Angelos
 

From: Cameron Shorter
Sent: lunedì 4 gennaio 2016 22:53
To: Gabriele Prestifilippo
Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA WorldWind
 
Hi Gabriele,
Great to hear from you and interest in seeing NASA WorldWind on OSGeo-Live.

The first step in including a project is to send an email to this list
addressing the questions linked from:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive

This helps us determine whether a project is a good fit for OSGeo-Live,
and also consider any logistical issues which we might face (such as if
there is enough space).

I'm looking forward to working with you further on this.

Warm regards,

Cameron (one of the OSGeo-Live coordinators)
On 5/01/2016 5:07 am, Gabriele Prestifilippo wrote:

  Dear all,
 
I'm writing here on behalf of Patrick Hogan's suggestion, to propose
the inclusion of NASA World Wind in the next OSGeo release
(http://goworldwind.org/ and http://webworldwind.org/).
I've been asked to fulfill the requirements from the Wiki, and I
created the scripts for the project and prepared the documentations.
Let me know what else is needed to proceed.
 
Best regards,
Gabriele Prestifilippo  
 
 
 

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Re: [Live-demo] Postgres 9.5 on Live 9.0

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All -
 
  without listing Pg 9.5 details right away, lets think strategically.. two 
points:
 
* OSGeo Live is pre-built and solid, not bleeding edge.. so stable is valued 
over newest release..
 
* for application-layer interop, JSON handling in Postgres is a Very Important 
Feature
 
  What is we could get the best JSON features from Pg 9.5, in Pg 9.4 from 
package ?  so..
  There is an extension to Postgres that is a native "backport" of JSON 
features from 9.5, in 9.4 [0]
I suggest we add the JSONBX extension to Pg 9.4 and leave the packaging of 9.5 
alone "at this time"
 
  [0]   http://www.pgxn.org/dist/jsonbx/1.0.0/ 
 
 
best regards from Berkeley, California
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:54:15 +0100, Johan Van de Wauw  wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Pieter du Plooy
 wrote:
> Hi guys, and happy new year.
>
> Are there any plans to make Postgres 9.5 available as a package after the
> 9.0 release, and have a postgis package compiled agains it as well?
>
> Postgres 9.5 will be release soon (has been stamped), and I would really
> like the upgrading to that.
Why?

What is/are the features that makes it worth switching to 9.5?
In the context of our live dvd.
Will these be used in the samples?
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[Live-demo] THREDDS - was build process

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Sean, Ethan, all 
 
  The Docker model is somewhat orthoganal to the aims and
implementation of the OSGeo-Live.
We are not *against* Docker, its just different.  For example, a
Docker model works well to spawn
hundreds of servers that may be short-lived, and have identical install
footprints.  I understand
that due to the popularity and some commerical investment, the Docker
model is being spread
further to include demo installs of heavier apps, in an easily
reproducible way .. 
 
  Meanwhile, the OSGeo-Live is intended to be a stand-alone boot, that
will work *without a 
network connection* at all.. this is important in a few scenarios, like
a secure physical environment, 
training and education, the third-world, and in-the-field use, to name
a few.. The Live is intended
to be a fully-functioning, stand-alone Live disk which works on
mid-level and legacy PC hardware.
This also makes it well suited to being a 32bit VM, but that is a
side-effect. Docker is intended
for on-demand, server-side installs and as a side-effect, amakes
installation easy on a laptop
for a demo .. etc  
 
  I am not in the Docker community, so if I misundestand, or miss
something important here, 
please speak up !
 
  Lastly, I think i can say we are super-interested in the THREDDS
server showing something on 
the Live. We are first-off an end-user disk, so its not clear what
level of detail is appropriate.
But there are plenty of possibilities, and it is *definitely* in line
with the mission here.
 
  best regards from Berkeley, California
  Brian M Hamlin
 

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 07:20:32 +1100, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

Ethan,
The next step in including THREDDS to OSGeo-Live is to officially
apply, as per:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive
If you wish to join our next release then please send us an email in
the next week officially asking to apply.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 3/12/2015 3:37 am, Sean Arms wrote:

  Greetings Cameron, 
I do not mind at all if you share and move this over to the OSGeo-Live
list. We have team meetings every Thursday, so I will be sure to bring
this up tomorrow to get a feel for it. One question off the top of my
head is do you support using Docker to install software? I know it's
not mentioned in the wiki, but it makes installation of the THREDDS
Data Server pretty painless, and is what we have moved to for running
our training workshop.
 
Cheers!
 
Sean
 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

  Hi Sean,
Thanks for getting back. Do you mind if I share our emails on the
public OSGeo-Live list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org?

Great to hear that THREDDS is going strong.

My key question is whether THREDDS wishes to be included on OSGeo-Live?
http://live.osgeo.org
It is an excellent outreach and marketing tool for Open Source
projects, which is handed out on USBs/DVDs at conferences, used by
educators in virtual machines in workshops and training programs, and
of course from our website.

We are right now kicking off the process for our next release (see
bottom of this email thread). The process for on boarding new projects
is described here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive

If you and your team would like to join us (and I hope you do), please
start by emailing an application to our email list (as explained in
link above).

Warm regards,

Cameron Shorter (one of the OSGeo-Live coordinators)

On 1/12/2015 3:12 am, Sean Arms wrote:

  Greetings Cameron, 
Thank you for considering the addition of the THREDDS project in
OSGeo-Live. First and most importantly, I want to assure you that the
THREDDS project has not stalled and is indeed still active. Our latest
release for both netCDF-Java and the THREDDS Data Server is version
4.6.3, and was released on 31 August 2015.
 
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/blogs/news/entry/netcdf-java-library-and-tds
 
We are approaching our next release, and hope to have it out by the end
of the year (v4.6.4). Note that most of our active development has been
on v5.0, which includes a major rewrite and extension to the way
gridded datasets are handled in general. This release will also
included the latest version of ncWMS (a.k.a. edal-java). We hope to
have a beta available sometime in December.
 
While the original lead developer, John Caron, is no longer with
Unidata, the THREDDS team is quite strong, and Unidata has doubled down
on its commitment to the THREDDS stack - no worries of this project
becoming abandonware.
 
If you would like to get an idea of current participation in the
project, including external contributors, please see our github project
page (includes both netCDF-Java and the THREDDS Data Server):
 
https://github.com/unidata/thredds
 
If you have any specific questions, please do not hesitate to contact us!
 
Cheers!
 
Sean
 
 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Ethan Davis  wrote:

  Hi Cameron,
Sean Arms (CCed) is now leading the THREDDS

[Live-demo] Torrents - was build process

[Brian M Hamlin]

hi Hrvoje -
 
  this comes up with some regularity.. basically, torrents work well
when there are many simultaneous downloads.
The frequency and volume of OSGeo-Live downloads is not a good fit to
the Torrent model..
 
  best regards from Berkeley, California
  Brian M Hamlin
 

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 08:56:02 +1100, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

  Hi Hrvoje,
With your permission from IRC, I'm forwarding your email to the
OSGeo-Live list.
There are others on the list who should be able to answer this question
better than I.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 3/12/2015 7:56 am, Hrvoje Bogner wrote:

Hi Cameron

I visited IRC channel few times and talked about this, and was
pointed to the list.

I'm new to this list and didn't want to barge in, but I don't like
sourceforge and wanted to see if there is something I could help with.

I was wondering how large is entire OSGeo-live repository, and what
is average monthly bandwidth usage.

Also many Linux distributions have .torrent files as an additional
way to download large files, this could also be done with OSGeo-live.

There was some talk about wanting to know how many times each file
was downloaded, which is nice, but there should also be another way
of downloading, not just sourceforge.

If you wish you can share this email.

Regards,
Hrvoje Bogner

On 12/02/2015 09:22 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Hi Hrvoje,
That is a generous offer.

Would you mind if I share this email with our OSGeo-Live list? There are
others more qualified to answer than I on the list.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 3/12/2015 6:47 am, hbogner wrote:



Hi Cameron

I was wondering about distributing OSGeo-live images. I have few
hundreds of GB free on our servers and could mirror OSGeo-live.
Also I was wondering about creation of .torrent files for those larger
files where I could also help.

Regards,
Hrvoje Bogner

On 11/22/2015 08:18 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

We are starting the build cycle for version 9.5 of the OSGeo-Live [1]
DVD/USB/VM which will be released in March 2016, ready for several
special events, including FOSS4G-NA, FOSSGIS (Salzburg, Austria), among
others.

We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add translations, or anyone who
has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.

Key Milestones
11 Jan 2016 All new applications installed, most old applications
updated
01 Feb 2016 Feature Freeze (all apps updated)
15 Feb 2016 User Acceptance Test (all apps installed and working)
21 Mar 2016 Final ISO sent to printers

About OSGeo-Live
OSGeo-live is a Lubuntu based distribution of Geospatial Open Source
Software, available via a Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB. You can use
OSGeo-Live to try a wide variety of open source geospatial software
without installing anything.

[1] http://live.osgeo.org








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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live and WorldWind

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Patrick -
 
  great to talk just now at length - I hope we have ** reset ** this
thread and look forward to new things in the future !  Much respect to
all the years of hard work and inspiration on the WorldWind project.
 
  best regards from Berkeley, California
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Re: [Live-demo] desktop candidate 9b

[Brian M Hamlin]

small edit 
 
  http://pasteboard.co/fIFPryf.png

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:59:48 -0700, Brian M Hamlin  wrote:

  Hi All -

  there is a desktop candidate here :

    http://pasteboard.co/fIrcSfW.png

if you really object, please say so.. otherwise, consider this a candidate
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[Live-demo] desktop candidate 9b

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All -

  there is a desktop candidate here :

    http://pasteboard.co/fIrcSfW.png

if you really object, please say so.. otherwise, consider this a candidate
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Re: [Live-demo] R Studio on OSGeo Live

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi All -
 
  Coincidentally, I met with Scott Chamberlain from ropensci.org at
length yesterday.. Scott is interested in seeing the R environment for
OSGeo Live, and would like to potentially add some WKT support to his
current work.   Please contact Scott directly if you would like to
follow up on this.
 
    https://ropensci.org/
 
best regards 
Brian M Hamlin
 

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:47:26 +0100, Robin Lovelace  wrote:

  Hi Cameron (cc all)

Many thanks for the fast reply - I'll check that out and try to do it
through the formal channels, perhaps with some pointers from Barry :-)

To reply to your question, yes the R Project Overview and Quickstart
should be extended to also cover RStudio.

I've spoken to Barry Rowlingson who wrote this and he's encouraging me
to get involved.

This seems to be the file I'll need to modify:
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/en/quickstart/R_quickstart.rst

That documentation mission is the easy part for me - getting the
install script together will be the challenge - one I'm up for!

All the best,

Robin

On 08/22/2015 10:06 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

   Hi Robin,
Great to hear of your interest in the use of OSGeo-Live. I'd encourage
you to add an entry about it here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History

Regarding including RStudio, from your description, it sounds like it
would be a good addition. We are too late to include it in the next 9.0
release, however it could potentially be included in 9.5.

The process for adding a new project is described here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive

Further to that description, I'd be interested to hear advise on
whether RStudio should be included as a separate application to R, or
whether the R Project Overview and Quickstart should be extended to
also cover RStudio.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 23/08/2015 6:47 am, Robin Lovelace wrote:

  I want to use OSGeo Live for teaching at Leeds University, so
have a vested interest in it being good!

One question: I tried to send an email to the OSGeo-live email group
requesting RStudio as a program but it seems to have disappeared. Any
ideas what happened to that email? Should I raise this issue again?

Thanks,

Robin

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Subject:Feature suggestion: RStudio
Date:Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:43:14 +0100
From:Robin Lovelace
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Dear list members,

I'd like to suggest the inclusion of RStudio in OSGeo Live:
https://www.rstudio.com/products/rstudio/download/

I've just tested 9.0 Beta and it works! (screenshot attached).

There are things we can do to make it more user friendly, crucial for
its uptake as a teaching resource.

One of those things is the addition of RStudio which makes life s
much easier for people using R.
(I have more more ideas but will keep them to myself for now - RStudio
would be the priority.)

Any comments? Happy to try adding it via GH if people with experience
point me in the right direction.

Thanks

Robin

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[Live-demo] Desktop candidate

[Brian M Hamlin]

List - 

  this is a sketch for the desktop image for OSGeo Live 9
It should be dark and internationally recognizable .. 
feedback welcome

    http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/9.0/Blu0_base0Fsm.png

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[Live-demo] Packages postgres plus

[Brian M Hamlin]

I noticed the following today.. but also, it raises the question of, where does 
this bug report belong?
the failure lines at end are related to a binary size comparison of expected 
and actual ?
the request that triggered this was for five package installs 
postgresql/postgis  (see inline)

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#OSGeoLive 
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/osgeolive/nightly/ubuntu trusty main

##=
## Installaton log

(synaptic:2832): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' 
failed
Preconfiguring packages ... 
(Reading database ... 174942 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libpq-dev_9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04_i386.deb ... 
Unpacking libpq-dev (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) over (9.3.5-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) ... 
Preparing to unpack .../libpq5_9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04_i386.deb ... 
Unpacking libpq5 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) over (9.3.5-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) ... 
Preparing to unpack .../postgresql-client-common_154ubuntu1_all.deb ... 
Unpacking postgresql-client-common (154ubuntu1) over (154) ... 
Preparing to unpack .../postgresql-client-9.3_9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04_i386.deb ... 
Unpacking postgresql-client-9.3 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) over 
(9.3.5-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) ... 
Preparing to unpack .../postgresql-common_154ubuntu1_all.deb ... 
Leaving 'diversion of /usr/bin/pg_config to /usr/bin/pg_config.libpq-dev by 
postgresql-common'
Unpacking postgresql-common (154ubuntu1) over (154) ... 
Preparing to unpack .../postgresql-9.3_9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04_i386.deb ... 
 * Stopping PostgreSQL 9.3 database server   [ OK ] 
Unpacking postgresql-9.3 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) over (9.3.5-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) 
... 
Preparing to unpack .../postgresql-server-dev-9.3_9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04_i386.deb 
... 
Unpacking postgresql-server-dev-9.3 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) over 
(9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) ... 
Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ... 
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... 
ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
Setting up libpq5 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) ... 
Setting up libpq-dev (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) ... 
Setting up postgresql-client-common (154ubuntu1) ... 
Setting up postgresql-client-9.3 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) ... 
Setting up postgresql-common (154ubuntu1) ... 
 * Starting PostgreSQL 9.3 database server   [ OK ] 
Setting up postgresql-9.3 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) ... 
 * Starting PostgreSQL 9.3 database server   [ OK ] 
Setting up postgresql-server-dev-9.3 (9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04) ... 
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-0ubuntu6.4) ... 
W: Failed to fetch 
http://ppa.launchpad.net/osgeolive/nightly/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgis/liblwgeom-2.1.4_2.1.4+dfsg-3~trusty_i386.deb
  Size mismatch

W: Failed to fetch 
http://ppa.launchpad.net/osgeolive/nightly/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgis/postgresql-9.3-postgis-scripts_2.1.4+dfsg-3~trusty_all.deb
  Size mismatch

W: Failed to fetch 
http://ppa.launchpad.net/osgeolive/nightly/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgis/postgresql-9.3-postgis-2.1_2.1.4+dfsg-3~trusty_i386.deb
  Size mismatch

W: Failed to fetch 
http://ppa.launchpad.net/osgeolive/nightly/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgis/postgis_2.1.4+dfsg-3~trusty_i386.deb
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Re: [Live-demo] Should we write up a Sextante Project Overview onOSGeo-Live

[Brian M Hamlin]

+1

On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 00:43:59 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

  On 07/11/2015 12:42 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

A while back we were considering writing up a project overview for
Sextante on OSGeo-Live. However, it appears we never got around to it.

Since then, Sextante has become available from within other
applications, such as QGIS and SAGA, and I'm not aware of it being
used as a front end application?

As such, I'm proposing that we (I) decide to stop tracking Sextante
in its own right, as people will find its features through other
projects.

Any comments?


+1
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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live Presentation at AGIT Salzburg this week

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Astrid !
 
  no github !!!  please, git yes, Github.com NO
  thanks in advance
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:24:48 +0200, Astrid Emde  wrote:

  Hello,

I will make a presentation about OSGeo-Live in Salzburg at Agit this
week.

(at Friday 10.7.2015 http://agit.at/programm?id=104)

I will use the presentation from:
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs//de/presentation/index.html#/
(german version of the en presenation

And I would like to add information about the upcoming 9.0 release.

Thinks I would like to mention for 9.0 version:
* will be released at FOSS4G in Seoul, Korea in September 2015.
* we moved to github
* 64 bit will be available
* new Software?
* .. anything else

I would like to ask you whether there are other thinks worth mentioning.

PS: Looking forward to see you in Como.
Best regards

Astrid
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[Live-demo] python library for consideration

[Brian M Hamlin]

  http://www.spectralpython.net

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[Live-demo] python 2 and 3 in the next five years

[Brian M Hamlin]

Hi Paul -

  I read with interest your recent email (got a high rating in hacker news 
today)

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/04/msg5.html

I think you have gone too far with the "cheerleading" when you say Python 2 is 
"old, broken and deprecated" ... on the contrary, python 2.7 and its ecosystem 
is outperforming plenty of other language and development stacks out there, has 
a very well-understood development model and a *ton* of very useful libraries.. 

  the OSGeo-Live is a linux setup based on Debian/Ubuntu .. 

  http://live.osgeo.org

  we are grateful to the Debian project, and have been very satisfied with our 
own progress in the last five years or so, being based on Debian/Ubuntu.  We 
present code that makes and uses maps.. some of that code is dense and some of 
it obscure, however, the quality is very very good. We take a point of view 
generally that old does not mean broken by default. 

  Please think twice when you throw out hyperbole.. I understand there is an 
interest in the next python language and its stack. but that does not mean the 
existing one is broken .. quite the opposite.. 

  best regards from Berkeley, California

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[Live-demo] yet another USB howto

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  http://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-from-usb-device/

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