Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread Skip Gundlach
I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many
receive their mail/listserve over Pactor)...

I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with
info on that one.

That said, I wouldn't disengage from this.  Also, I DETEST web interfaces
of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP
newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go
to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity.  It
also allows me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs
having to wade through lots of title-only stuff in forums...

My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{))

L8R

Skip


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) 
vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote:

 Maybe everyone is out to sea?

 -Original Message-
 From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:
 liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip McConnell
 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
 Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active?

 This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It used to
 be pretty lively.

 Question: where has everyone gone?

 Thanks!

 Philip S. McConnell
 USSV Gryphon
 Tayana 52 #35
 Alameda, CA
 p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net



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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread Skip Gundlach
PS I also can read at leisure, as well as reply at leisure, without being
connected to the web, my replies going up on the next connection. Can't do
that with web-based stuff!

L8R

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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread FloridaKeyz
What
 
 
In a message dated 12/16/2011 9:16:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
skipgundl...@gmail.com writes:

That said, I wouldn't disengage from this.  Also, I DETEST web  interfaces 
of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP  
newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to  
a web 
site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity.  It also  allows 
me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having  to 
wade through lots of title-only stuff in  forums...

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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread SteveW
Hi, Ben!

Are you still up here in the NY area?

Steve Weinstein
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Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY



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-Original Message- 
From: Ben Okopnik
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:28 AM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 09:15:02AM -0500, Skip Gundlach wrote:
 I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many 
 receive
 their mail/listserve over Pactor)...

 I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with 
 info on
 that one.

Google is your friend:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/

:)

 That said, I wouldn't disengage from this. ═Also, I DETEST web interfaces 
 of
 all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups,
 where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web 
 site,
 or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity. ═It also allows me a
 preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade
 through lots of title-only stuff in forums...

Having grown up with the computer industry and having started with BBSes
and later USENET, I feel exactly the same way. What a waste of
bandwidth, and what a horrible restriction web-only interfaces are!

As my own small blow for justice, I wrote a kit of programs that daily
retrieves all the posts from a certain Yahoo group, parses them back
into their original format (i.e., email), and backs them up in a
searchable archive. In some ways, it's one of the most satisfying
projects I've ever done.

 My 2 cents; this is a great list,

Agreed!


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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread SteveW
I agree with Skip on this one. While I don’t have to worry about web connection 
issues, etc. while sitting at home in front of a roaring fireplace I can look 
through the emails in ‘preview’ and make the decision to engage or not.

It seems to me that there’s always as slowdown this time of the year with a lot 
of the normal ‘listers’ because a whole bunch of us (at least here in the 
Northeast, Northwest, and upper Midwest) have put our respective boats to bed 
for the winter – unfortunately!  

I also know a bunch of the old regulars ( Charmaine, ‘bella, etc...) have 
migrated to web based or even Facebook, but there are still a LOT of us 
checking the inbox for list messages. 

Meanwhile, I’ll be heading out to check on the boat cover, lines, and fenders 
while Captiva sleeps in her bubbler-equipped slip. But here’s a topic which has 
been explored before but possibly germane to those of us wet-storing over the 
winter.

Will 6-v wet cell batteries be damaged by leaving the on-board charger 
activated over 4 months (Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar) so it maintains a float charge?  In 
my case, I’ve got an inverter/charger. I think that while the unit is on and 
the status panel is on there’s some minimum draw even as the batteries are 
being charged.




Steve Weinstein
S/V CAPTIVA
1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376
Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY



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From: Skip Gundlach 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:15 AM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com 
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many receive 
their mail/listserve over Pactor)... 

I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with info on 
that one.

That said, I wouldn't disengage from this.  Also, I DETEST web interfaces of 
all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, 
where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, 
or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity.  It also allows me a 
preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade 
through lots of title-only stuff in forums...

My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{))

L8R

Skip


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) 
vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote:

  Maybe everyone is out to sea?

  -Original Message-
  From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com 
[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip McConnell
  Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM
  To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
  Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active?

  This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It used to
  be pretty lively.

  Question: where has everyone gone?

  Thanks!

  Philip S. McConnell
  USSV Gryphon
  Tayana 52 #35
  Alameda, CA
  p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net



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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread Corinne Sutter-Brown
I agree.  I hate web-based social network stuff.  This list is much better.  
Nice to hear from folks.


Corinne 

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lying Newport -- happily in the water and living aboard, winter or not



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On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:23 AM, SteveW wrote:

 I agree with Skip on this one. While I don’t have to worry about web 
 connection issues, etc. while sitting at home in front of a roaring fireplace 
 I can look through the emails in ‘preview’ and make the decision to engage or 
 not.
  
 It seems to me that there’s always as slowdown this time of the year with a 
 lot of the normal ‘listers’ because a whole bunch of us (at least here in the 
 Northeast, Northwest, and upper Midwest) have put our respective boats to bed 
 for the winter – unfortunately! 
  
 I also know a bunch of the old regulars ( Charmaine, ‘bella, etc...) have 
 migrated to web based or even Facebook, but there are still a LOT of us 
 checking the inbox for list messages.
  
 Meanwhile, I’ll be heading out to check on the boat cover, lines, and fenders 
 while Captiva sleeps in her bubbler-equipped slip. But here’s a topic which 
 has been explored before but possibly germane to those of us wet-storing over 
 the winter.
  
 Will 6-v wet cell batteries be damaged by leaving the on-board charger 
 activated over 4 months (Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar) so it maintains a float charge?  In 
 my case, I’ve got an inverter/charger. I think that while the unit is on and 
 the status panel is on there’s some minimum draw even as the batteries are 
 being charged.
  
  
  
  
 Steve Weinstein
 S/V CAPTIVA
 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376
 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY
 
 
 
 All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V
 
  
 From: Skip Gundlach
 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:15 AM
 To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
 Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?
  
 I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many receive 
 their mail/listserve over Pactor)...
  
 I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with info 
 on that one.
  
 That said, I wouldn't disengage from this.  Also, I DETEST web interfaces of 
 all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, 
 where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, 
 or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity.  It also allows me a 
 preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade 
 through lots of title-only stuff in forums...
  
 My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{))
  
 L8R
  
 Skip
  
  
 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) 
 vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote:
 Maybe everyone is out to sea?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com 
 [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip McConnell
 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
 Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active?
 
 This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It used to
 be pretty lively.
 
 Question: where has everyone gone?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Philip S. McConnell
 USSV Gryphon
 Tayana 52 #35
 Alameda, CA
 p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net
 
 
 
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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread bill wright
If they're wet cells check the water level once or twice and they'll be 
great.


Bill Wright
S/V Wright Tack


On 12/16/2011 11:23 AM, SteveW wrote:
I agree with Skip on this one. While I don't have to worry about web 
connection issues, etc. while sitting at home in front of a roaring 
fireplace I can look through the emails in 'preview' and make the 
decision to engage or not.
It seems to me that there's always as slowdown this time of the year 
with a lot of the normal 'listers' because a whole bunch of us (at 
least here in the Northeast, Northwest, and upper Midwest) have put 
our respective boats to bed for the winter -- unfortunately!
I also know a bunch of the old regulars ( Charmaine, 'bella, etc...) 
have migrated to web based or even Facebook, but there are still a LOT 
of us checking the inbox for list messages.
Meanwhile, I'll be heading out to check on the boat cover, lines, and 
fenders while Captiva sleeps in her bubbler-equipped slip. But here's 
a topic which has been explored before but possibly germane to those 
of us wet-storing over the winter.
Will 6-v wet cell batteries be damaged by leaving the on-board charger 
activated over 4 months (Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar) so it maintains a float 
charge?  In my case, I've got an inverter/charger. I think that while 
the unit is on and the status panel is on there's some minimum draw 
even as the batteries are being charged.

Steve Weinstein
S/V CAPTIVA
1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376
Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY



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*From:* Skip Gundlach mailto:skipgundl...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2011 9:15 AM
*To:* liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com 
mailto:liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com

*Subject:* Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?
I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many 
receive their mail/listserve over Pactor)...
I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so 
with info on that one.
That said, I wouldn't disengage from this.  Also, I DETEST web 
interfaces of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a 
distance, NNTP newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the 
need to log on, go to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth 
intensive activity.  It also allows me a preview of what I'm either 
going to open or disregard, vs having to wade through lots of 
title-only stuff in forums...

My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{))
L8R
Skip
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) 
vernon.dens...@ngc.com mailto:vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote:


Maybe everyone is out to sea?

-Original Message-
From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com
mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com
[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com
mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of
Philip McConnell
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
mailto:liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active?

This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It
used to
be pretty lively.

Question: where has everyone gone?

Thanks!

Philip S. McConnell
USSV Gryphon
Tayana 52 #35
Alameda, CA
p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net mailto:p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net



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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?

2011-12-16 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:49:04PM -0500, Skip Gundlach wrote:
 Hi, Ben, and list,
 
 I presume you'll address the batteries issue shown later in the thread, but I
 wonder:
 
 As my own small blow for justice, I wrote a kit of programs that daily
 retrieves all the posts from a certain Yahoo group, parses them back
 into their original format (i.e., email), and backs them up in a
 searchable archive. In some ways, it's one of the most satisfying
 projects I've ever done.
 
 Would you be interested in selling/donating said program/script to needy
 sailors everywhere?

For the price of asking, yes. :) Since it was never intended for
distribution, you'll need to do a little manual configuration to get it
running - i.e., create the MySQL database/table, specify the group name
to retrieve from and the database/table name to save to.  You'll also
need a Linux-based system to run it on. Let me know when you want it,
and I'll send it along.

(The easiest approach would just be for me to clone what I've got and
aim it at another group - about a minute worth of work; however, my
virtual server is only 10GB in size and already creaking at the seams.
One day soon, I'll expand the thing...)


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