Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?
I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many receive their mail/listserve over Pactor)... I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with info on that one. That said, I wouldn't disengage from this. Also, I DETEST web interfaces of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity. It also allows me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade through lots of title-only stuff in forums... My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{)) L8R Skip On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote: Maybe everyone is out to sea? -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip McConnell Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active? This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It used to be pretty lively. Question: where has everyone gone? Thanks! Philip S. McConnell USSV Gryphon Tayana 52 #35 Alameda, CA p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog The Society for the Preservation of Tithesis commends your ebriated and scrutible use of delible and defatigable, which are gainly, sipid and couth. We are gruntled and consolate that you have the ertia and eptitude to choose such putably pensible tithesis, which we parage. Stamp out Sesquipedalianism ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?
PS I also can read at leisure, as well as reply at leisure, without being connected to the web, my replies going up on the next connection. Can't do that with web-based stuff! L8R Skip, apologizing for not having trimmed the prior -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog The Society for the Preservation of Tithesis commends your ebriated and scrutible use of delible and defatigable, which are gainly, sipid and couth. We are gruntled and consolate that you have the ertia and eptitude to choose such putably pensible tithesis, which we parage. Stamp out Sesquipedalianism ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?
What In a message dated 12/16/2011 9:16:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, skipgundl...@gmail.com writes: That said, I wouldn't disengage from this. Also, I DETEST web interfaces of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity. It also allows me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade through lots of title-only stuff in forums... ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?
Hi, Ben! Are you still up here in the NY area? Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Ben Okopnik Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:28 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active? On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 09:15:02AM -0500, Skip Gundlach wrote: I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many receive their mail/listserve over Pactor)... I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with info on that one. Google is your friend: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ :) That said, I wouldn't disengage from this. ═Also, I DETEST web interfaces of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity. ═It also allows me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade through lots of title-only stuff in forums... Having grown up with the computer industry and having started with BBSes and later USENET, I feel exactly the same way. What a waste of bandwidth, and what a horrible restriction web-only interfaces are! As my own small blow for justice, I wrote a kit of programs that daily retrieves all the posts from a certain Yahoo group, parses them back into their original format (i.e., email), and backs them up in a searchable archive. In some ways, it's one of the most satisfying projects I've ever done. My 2 cents; this is a great list, Agreed! Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active?
I agree with Skip on this one. While I don’t have to worry about web connection issues, etc. while sitting at home in front of a roaring fireplace I can look through the emails in ‘preview’ and make the decision to engage or not. It seems to me that there’s always as slowdown this time of the year with a lot of the normal ‘listers’ because a whole bunch of us (at least here in the Northeast, Northwest, and upper Midwest) have put our respective boats to bed for the winter – unfortunately! I also know a bunch of the old regulars ( Charmaine, ‘bella, etc...) have migrated to web based or even Facebook, but there are still a LOT of us checking the inbox for list messages. Meanwhile, I’ll be heading out to check on the boat cover, lines, and fenders while Captiva sleeps in her bubbler-equipped slip. But here’s a topic which has been explored before but possibly germane to those of us wet-storing over the winter. Will 6-v wet cell batteries be damaged by leaving the on-board charger activated over 4 months (Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar) so it maintains a float charge? In my case, I’ve got an inverter/charger. I think that while the unit is on and the status panel is on there’s some minimum draw even as the batteries are being charged. Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V From: Skip Gundlach Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:15 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active? I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many receive their mail/listserve over Pactor)... I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with info on that one. That said, I wouldn't disengage from this. Also, I DETEST web interfaces of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity. It also allows me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade through lots of title-only stuff in forums... My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{)) L8R Skip On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote: Maybe everyone is out to sea? -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip McConnell Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active? This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It used to be pretty lively. Question: where has everyone gone? Thanks! Philip S. McConnell USSV Gryphon Tayana 52 #35 Alameda, CA p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog The Society for the Preservation of Tithesis commends your ebriated and scrutible use of delible and defatigable, which are gainly, sipid and couth. We are gruntled and consolate that you have the ertia and eptitude to choose such putably pensible tithesis, which we parage. Stamp out Sesquipedalianism ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To
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I agree. I hate web-based social network stuff. This list is much better. Nice to hear from folks. Corinne sv Corinne CC 41 Custom lying Newport -- happily in the water and living aboard, winter or not Corinne Sutter-Brown csut...@mac.com On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:23 AM, SteveW wrote: I agree with Skip on this one. While I don’t have to worry about web connection issues, etc. while sitting at home in front of a roaring fireplace I can look through the emails in ‘preview’ and make the decision to engage or not. It seems to me that there’s always as slowdown this time of the year with a lot of the normal ‘listers’ because a whole bunch of us (at least here in the Northeast, Northwest, and upper Midwest) have put our respective boats to bed for the winter – unfortunately! I also know a bunch of the old regulars ( Charmaine, ‘bella, etc...) have migrated to web based or even Facebook, but there are still a LOT of us checking the inbox for list messages. Meanwhile, I’ll be heading out to check on the boat cover, lines, and fenders while Captiva sleeps in her bubbler-equipped slip. But here’s a topic which has been explored before but possibly germane to those of us wet-storing over the winter. Will 6-v wet cell batteries be damaged by leaving the on-board charger activated over 4 months (Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar) so it maintains a float charge? In my case, I’ve got an inverter/charger. I think that while the unit is on and the status panel is on there’s some minimum draw even as the batteries are being charged. Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V From: Skip Gundlach Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:15 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active? I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many receive their mail/listserve over Pactor)... I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with info on that one. That said, I wouldn't disengage from this. Also, I DETEST web interfaces of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity. It also allows me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade through lots of title-only stuff in forums... My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{)) L8R Skip On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote: Maybe everyone is out to sea? -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip McConnell Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active? This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It used to be pretty lively. Question: where has everyone gone? Thanks! Philip S. McConnell USSV Gryphon Tayana 52 #35 Alameda, CA p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog The Society for the Preservation of Tithesis commends your ebriated and scrutible use of delible and defatigable, which are gainly, sipid and couth. We are gruntled and consolate that you have the ertia and
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If they're wet cells check the water level once or twice and they'll be great. Bill Wright S/V Wright Tack On 12/16/2011 11:23 AM, SteveW wrote: I agree with Skip on this one. While I don't have to worry about web connection issues, etc. while sitting at home in front of a roaring fireplace I can look through the emails in 'preview' and make the decision to engage or not. It seems to me that there's always as slowdown this time of the year with a lot of the normal 'listers' because a whole bunch of us (at least here in the Northeast, Northwest, and upper Midwest) have put our respective boats to bed for the winter -- unfortunately! I also know a bunch of the old regulars ( Charmaine, 'bella, etc...) have migrated to web based or even Facebook, but there are still a LOT of us checking the inbox for list messages. Meanwhile, I'll be heading out to check on the boat cover, lines, and fenders while Captiva sleeps in her bubbler-equipped slip. But here's a topic which has been explored before but possibly germane to those of us wet-storing over the winter. Will 6-v wet cell batteries be damaged by leaving the on-board charger activated over 4 months (Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar) so it maintains a float charge? In my case, I've got an inverter/charger. I think that while the unit is on and the status panel is on there's some minimum draw even as the batteries are being charged. Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V *From:* Skip Gundlach mailto:skipgundl...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2011 9:15 AM *To:* liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com *Subject:* Re: [Liveaboard] EXT : Any other lists more active? I'm part of cruisers_online_network, a truly international list (many receive their mail/listserve over Pactor)... I'm away from my home computer, but I'll follow up in a week or so with info on that one. That said, I wouldn't disengage from this. Also, I DETEST web interfaces of all stripes, much preferring listserve, or at a distance, NNTP newsgroups, where stuff comes to my mailbox without the need to log on, go to a web site, or any other much more bandwidth intensive activity. It also allows me a preview of what I'm either going to open or disregard, vs having to wade through lots of title-only stuff in forums... My 2 cents; this is a great list, taking a breather :{)) L8R Skip On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) vernon.dens...@ngc.com mailto:vernon.dens...@ngc.com wrote: Maybe everyone is out to sea? -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip McConnell Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:36 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: EXT :[Liveaboard] Any other lists more active? This list appear to be pretty much dead. I kinda wonder why. It used to be pretty lively. Question: where has everyone gone? Thanks! Philip S. McConnell USSV Gryphon Tayana 52 #35 Alameda, CA p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net mailto:p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com mailto:Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com mailto:Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com mailto:liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html --
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:49:04PM -0500, Skip Gundlach wrote: Hi, Ben, and list, I presume you'll address the batteries issue shown later in the thread, but I wonder: As my own small blow for justice, I wrote a kit of programs that daily retrieves all the posts from a certain Yahoo group, parses them back into their original format (i.e., email), and backs them up in a searchable archive. In some ways, it's one of the most satisfying projects I've ever done. Would you be interested in selling/donating said program/script to needy sailors everywhere? For the price of asking, yes. :) Since it was never intended for distribution, you'll need to do a little manual configuration to get it running - i.e., create the MySQL database/table, specify the group name to retrieve from and the database/table name to save to. You'll also need a Linux-based system to run it on. Let me know when you want it, and I'll send it along. (The easiest approach would just be for me to clone what I've got and aim it at another group - about a minute worth of work; however, my virtual server is only 10GB in size and already creaking at the seams. One day soon, I'll expand the thing...) Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html