Re: [Liveaboard] Trailer for a keel boat

2012-05-21 Thread Vernon Densler 
OK so my wife figured out what kind of boat it is.  It has to be a Kittiwake
23.  It needs a lot of work but the hull is in good condition.  I have my
eye on some potential trailers that could be modified.  

 

From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com
[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Densler,
Vernon R (AS)
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:31 AM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: [Liveaboard] Trailer for a keel boat

 

I have someone giving me what is supposed to be a 1968 Cape Dory 23.  I
can't find any mention of that boat on the internet so I am not sure if the
make is right or not.  Anyway, it needs some work, but I thought it might
make a cool family project and might be a way to let my older kids get out
on the water.

 

Since I am having to deal with the damage to my other boat I don't have a
ton of money to spend on a trailer and keel boat trailers are hard to find.
Any suggestions on modifying a powerboat trailer to hold this boat. 

 

Vernon Densler

Logistics Engineer

Northrop Grumman AS

(321)-951-5426

 

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[Liveaboard] Whatever Floats Your Boat :)

2012-05-19 Thread Vernon Densler 
Well We got the boat floating again and temporary plugs over the holes.  The
good thing is that both of the pilings were actually wood and Sam's step son
was able to cut them out under the water.  She is moved to a safer location
with the damaged hull close to shore so we can try to jack the hull up out
of the water so it can dry and be repaired.  Going to go back tomorrow and
hose out the hull with fresh water to try to limit the damage from the salt
water.  Then we will bleach the hull.  

 

Hopefully the worst part of the ordeal is over.

 

Vern

s/v Nirvelli

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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-05 Thread Vernon Densler 
I have group legal so that should cover a good portion if I have to sue.

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[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Bob Johnson
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 7:14 PM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in
my boat.

 

I can attest to this first hand. It cost me $6k in attorney fees to get a
payout on a total loss.

Bob
PDQ 36
Peace  


contract - if necessary. Even though they are your insurance company they
are here to make money and minimize loss and that means they are Not Your
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Re: [Liveaboard] Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-02 Thread Vernon Densler 
So not a good day at all.  Got the 3" pump and managed to pump the hull out
enough to see not only the last thing I expected but the last thing I wanted
to see.  There is a 4" concrete piling skewering my hull.  I was able to
slow the water down enough that the sump pump is keeping it almost empty.
While we were working on the boat we felt a crunch.  I thought it was
shifting on the piling and it turns out that there is another piling now
piercing the hull just in front of my board case.  I was told the slip was
shallow when the water was down but was not told that there was all kinds of
debris with pointy ends sticking out of the mud.  The piling in the back is
in the inside of the port hull and the one in the middle towards the front
is on the outside of the port hull.  

The marina owner finally showed up at 4:00 and we put a section of PVC drain
pipe under it to try to keep it from going down much more.

He is saying now that he is going to jack the port hull out of the water and
build cradle to hold the hull so we can repair the holes.  Then when the
water comes up high enough to float her out without ripping the hull on the
spikes we will get her out of there.  Hopefully he does this soon so that I
don't get any more damage.  

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Re: [Liveaboard] Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-02 Thread Vernon Densler 
Wondering if the stern locker is full from the skeg breaking off and if the
water looked like it wasn't going down because it was coming from there as I
pumped it out.  I guess I will find out soon.  2" pump should almost be
enough to pump the whole river out.

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Good stuff. On the MKII there is really no areas of egress for water in the
stern, no through hull fittings and motor/s are outboard. Only thing is the
skeg which is bolted through the hull  which wouldn't be enough that big
pumps couldn't handle.

The tarp is probably the best idea as it would seem to be a hull problem.
Having said that the hulls are glass and thick from back when glass was
cheap and weight was not a big issue.

JohnB
s/c Drumbeat Iroquois MKII

On 5/1/2012 9:37 PM, Rufus wrote:
> Ouch. Sorry to hear, Vern.
>
>> big hole...
> Bring some gloves. The underside, not to mention any possible jagged
edges, won't help your hands.
>
>> pump...
> To work best (anywhere close to spec) a pump needs the lowest restriction
on the outlet possible. Means use as big a hose as the pump will take and
rout it for the shortest distance and lowest lift. It sounds like the lift
out the companion way over the side would be about 6'-8'; anything to reduce
that will improve pumping. The intake also can be a problem, trying as it
does to eat anything it can reach.
> If the pump you mention (16xx gph) works close to spec, it dumps close to
25 gpm; but that's under optimal conditions w/no head. Did the output look
something like that? That's one 5gal bucket every 12sec so it wouldn't take
but a few secs to see if it's anything close. If pump is not putting out
water to spec, a lot of your figuring and planning is based on false
assumptions and _that_ never helps anything.
>
> Assuming the pump you have is working my best thought: 1) Run all pumps
full, monitor to optimize and make sure everything is doing the job you want
it to. 2) Use the plastic or tarp to search for the leak; it sounds like the
rudder, prop shaft (missing), aft through-hull, engine exhaust are the most
likely suspects. If you know the sizes you might pick up some conical plugs
to suit; West will take them back if unused. If you can get a big tarp under
most of the after section in such a way that you can secure it topsides so
it stays in place, you might be able dry out on a temporary basis using only
the one pump in a deep well; probably won't work if your bottom has lots of
barnacles.
>
> Epoxy putty (grey/black) from plumbing supply houses or the box stores 
> is probably less than anything West has; but it's not designed for 
> under water and it's not particiularly cheap itself. Comes in 8" 
> sticks or tubes; temporary, of course. It's pretty stiff; sets in 
> about 10 minutes after kneading parts together
>
> Sheet metal screws hold well in GRP. The hex head version is easier to
drive than phillips head. If you can find a pneumatic driver you can use
battens to aid the temp repair. Otherwise you need a strong wrist. The box
stores (HD at least) sell plaster lathe which might work for battens, but
check a piece for bend-ability before planning on it.
>
> IF the tarps prove too weak, you might be able to get old coated canvas
from an (house) awning maker; they might have scrap or trash which would
work for you. You want the coated kind to reduce water permeability.
>
> Good luck. Hopefully none of the above will prove really necessary and
you'll just find a hose off a through-hull or something.
>
> Rufus
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[Liveaboard] test

2012-04-11 Thread Vernon Densler 
test

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[Liveaboard] test

2012-04-11 Thread Vernon Densler 
test

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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Working Yard

2011-11-03 Thread Vernon Densler 
Any idea of the cost to be per month?

 

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[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip R.
McGovern
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:41 PM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Working Yard

 

Vern:

We like Westland Marina which is adjacent to the Titusville City Marina.
It's a great DIY yard -- very laid back with very few rules and, yet,
everyone behaves like adults.  The staff is great and the community of
boaters is very friendly and helpful.  They do require a vacuum if you are
sanding but that's about it.  Haulouts are very reasonable and, yes, you can
live aboard while you work. Also, there is a West Marine just a few blocks
away.

Tell 'em we sent ya and say "hey" to Sam for us..

Phil
s/v Sunshine
PDQ36

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Densler, Vernon R (AS)
 wrote:

I prefer to be on the east coast but if I can't find anything good I can
bring her around.

 

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Subject: EXT :Re: [Liveaboard] Working Yard

 

Did you want central east coast or central west coast?

 

West coast, try Charlotte Harbor Boat Yard. It's  just north of Ft Myers.

 

 

-Anita Lockamy
Austin, TX & Punta Gorda, FL
Why  Knot IP 37 #033
---

 

In a message dated 11/3/2011 11:46:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
vernon.dens...@ngc.com writes:

Does anyone know of a good inexpensive working yard in the central Florida
area where I can put my boat on the hard to do the bottom and other work?

Vernon Densler

Logistics Engineer

Northrop Grumman AS

(321)-951-5426  


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Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

2011-07-12 Thread Vernon Densler 
What type of stitch and what type of thread did you use?

 

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[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip
McConnell
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:57 PM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

 

We have a Singer 237 that we bought on Ebay for around $100. They are often
advertised as "industrial", but aren't. However it does about 95% of what we
do on our boat. I have used it to reattach the sacrificial cover on our
furling jib.
 



Philip S. McConnell
USSV Gryphon
Tayana 52 #51
Alameda, CA
p.mcconn...@sv-gryphon.net


On 7/7/2011 12:04 PM, Vernon Densler wrote: 

Vern, to do the job right you need a walking foot machine. Like the sailrite
LSZ-1

>From what I am reading you can get a walking foot add-on for almost any
machine.  Looks like the main reason for the walking foot is when you are
doing multiple layers which I don't plan on doing too much. 

 
 
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Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

2011-07-08 Thread Vernon Densler 
They make zigzag attachments for some machines.  From what I have been
reading 2 rows of very long straight stitch would be about the same as a
zigzag when it comes to fabric strength.  Most covers and things are
straight stitch.  One thing I read said that straight stitch was actually
better for sails because less of the thread is out in the sun.  Since my
repair is on the sacrificial cover and since the Nicchi I just got doesn't
have zigzag (thought they all did until I got the manual for the machine and
it doesn't have zigzag)  I think I am going to try the double straight
stitch.  I have no doubt that this thing will sew through the material
though.  It went through 6 layers of upholstery material with the needle
that was in it.  I have seen pictures on Ebay of it going through thick
leather.  Going to try to put Dacron tape on either side of the fabric and
sew it right into the sail.  Hopefully it will last until the whole sail
needs to be replaced.

 

Vern

s/v Nirvelli 

 

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[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Lee Huddleston
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:01 PM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

 

I, too, have an ancient (cir. 1910) Singer that is built like a brick
outhouse.  I am confident that it could sew through just about anything.  I
may even have a walking foot.  But, it only does straight stitches.  I
understand that for sail repair one needs to be able to do zig-zag stitches.
Is that correct?  Why?  Could I still use the Singer for projects with
Sunbrella?  Thanks in advance for your advice.

 

Lee Huddleston

s/v Truelove

on the hard at Bock Marine

Beaufort, NC

 

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Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

2011-07-08 Thread Vernon Densler 
Actually looking at a Necchi Super Nova right now.  If it's in good shape
and the seller will sell it for the right price I think I may jump on it.

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Look at a pre 1960 Necchi zig zag model. There is a news group on yahoo.
They can be found for $50 if you look hard enough.
Bob  
PDQ 36
Peace   

 

   So what is the 2nd best thing?

 
 





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Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

2011-07-07 Thread Vernon Densler 
Very good advice and I think the stitching in the reinforced areas is OK and 
will only need a light touch up.  It's the main area where the stitching came 
undone.  

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On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 15:04 -0400, Vernon Densler wrote:
> Vern, to do the job right you need a walking foot machine. Like the 
> sailrite LSZ-1
> 
> From what I am reading you can get a walking foot add-on for almost 
> any machine.  Looks like the main reason for the walking foot is when 
> you are doing multiple layers which I don’t plan on doing too much.
> 
From one who has done the job: use the machine to do the light stuff and a 
sewing awl for the head, foot and tack patches. It will take a bit of time and 
effort, but will get the job done.  
Philip



--
S/V ORYOKI
Philip & Marilyn Lange
AE4OVKD4JRC
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Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

2011-07-07 Thread Vernon Densler 
Vern, to do the job right you need a walking foot machine. Like the sailrite
LSZ-1

>From what I am reading you can get a walking foot add-on for almost any
machine.  Looks like the main reason for the walking foot is when you are
doing multiple layers which I don't plan on doing too much. 

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Re: [Liveaboard] Sewing

2011-07-07 Thread Vernon Densler 
Those are very pricey.  I wish I could afford one but not at this point.  So
what is the 2nd best thing?

 

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Vern, to do the job right you need a walking foot machine. Like the sailrite
LSZ-1




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[Liveaboard] Sewing

2011-07-06 Thread Vernon Densler 
My cover on my roller furling jib started to unstitch from the sail.
Besides getting a very expensive industrial machine, what would the best
used machine be for this kind of work?  An old solid metal Singer comes to
mind.  Will something like that work?  What do I need to look for to make
sure I get the right one?

 

Thanks,

Vern

s/v Nirvelli.

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Re: [Liveaboard] Visiting Guest Policies

2011-05-11 Thread Vernon Densler 
Ok and to be even more clear. A floating dock should never be underway
unless there is something really wrong with your marina.  Also this law only
applies if the state doesn't have a law that supersedes that law.  I think
that if they are in an air tight container they don't need the life jacket
either but we would have to ask Norm about that one :)

Vern

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[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of jim sims
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So, to be clear (sorry)

2002 FEDERAL LIFE JACKET RULE
The United States Coast Guard's Life Jacket Rule for Children went into
effect December 23, 2002. In support of the ongoing efforts of the states
and Coast Guard to improve boating safety, the Coast Guard is requiring that
all children under 13 years of age wear Coast Guard approved life jackets,
while aboard recreational vessels underway, except when the children are
below decks or in an enclosed cabin.



On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Vernon Densler  wrote:
>
> Per Coast Guard regs, children under the age of 12? *must* wear 
> approved flotation devices *at all times* onboard your vessel. And
> *you* are responsible for enforcing this. Not the parents.
>
> I have seen this enforced on *floating docks* at a marina because the 
> floating portion of a dock is considered a *vessel*
>
> So my kids that are under 12 have to wear approve flotation devices 
> when they are sleeping on the boat in the marina?  I don't think so.
>
> Actually the Coast Guard doesn't regulate them at all, it's up to the 
> states to set the policies.  In Florida in a vessel over 26' they 
> don't have to have one.  Since my boat is 30' they don't ever have to 
> wear one.  Since the floating dock I am tied to is more than 30' long 
> they don't need one to walk to the bathroom at the marina either.
>
> And as far as my visiting guest policy goes, all guest must bring 
> quality beer and all female guests between the ages of 18 and 60 who 
> are under 150lbs must wear bikinis.  The captain at his discretion, 
> may ask the guest to cover their entire body if the area exposed makes him
want to vomit.
> Besides that have fun on the boat, that is what is there for.
>
> Vern
> s/v Nirvelli
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Re: [Liveaboard] Visiting Guest Policies

2011-05-11 Thread Vernon Densler 

Per Coast Guard regs, children under the age of 12? *must* wear approved
flotation devices *at all times* onboard your vessel. And
*you* are responsible for enforcing this. Not the parents.

I have seen this enforced on *floating docks* at a marina because the
floating portion of a dock is considered a *vessel*

So my kids that are under 12 have to wear approve flotation devices when
they are sleeping on the boat in the marina?  I don't think so.

Actually the Coast Guard doesn't regulate them at all, it's up to the states
to set the policies.  In Florida in a vessel over 26' they don't have to
have one.  Since my boat is 30' they don't ever have to wear one.  Since the
floating dock I am tied to is more than 30' long they don't need one to walk
to the bathroom at the marina either.

And as far as my visiting guest policy goes, all guest must bring quality
beer and all female guests between the ages of 18 and 60 who are under
150lbs must wear bikinis.  The captain at his discretion, may ask the guest
to cover their entire body if the area exposed makes him want to vomit.
Besides that have fun on the boat, that is what is there for.

Vern
s/v Nirvelli

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Re: [Liveaboard] Energy Efficient Electronics...

2011-04-02 Thread Vernon Densler 
That is the opposite of what I heard.  I heard on a lot of printers if you
leave them on the heat causes the ink to dry out.  How would leaving it on
keep it from drying out?  Unless it purges the ink every so often.  Again
that Kodaks are really good.

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Exactly. However,one like mine, Brother MFC-255CW,  requires that you leave
it on all the time or the ink cart will dry out. Not a good use of power -
and a good think to know if you are thinking of buying one.
Philip

On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 23:12 -0400, ahmet erkan wrote:
> Hi Roy,
> A refrigerator or a running light I understand but why should anyone 
> care about the power efficiency of a printer?
> Turn it on, print and then turn it off. Who cares even if it 
> dissipates a kW while it is on. What am I missing here?
> sv8827
> Ahmet
>  
> 
> S/V ORYOKI
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> 
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Re: [Liveaboard] Energy Efficient Printers...

2011-03-21 Thread Vernon Densler 
I have to second that.  I love my Kodak all in one.  The transformer is a
separate power brick like a laptop and is 36v at 60w for the output.  So it
might be possible to run it from a 12v source with the proper transformer.
I would imagine that the non all in one version doesn't need anywhere close
to the 60w that this needs.  I am sure most of that is the scanner bulb.  

 

Vern

s/v  Nirvelli

 

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Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Energy Efficient Printers...

 

For the least expensive ink costs, Kodak is very hard to beat.  And their
ink cartridges fit all their machines.  A full set of B&W and color
cartridges costs $29.00  at Staples.

 

Alan

Alan Lewis
"Victoria"
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Lying Kittery, ME
K1ALL






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> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:22 -0500
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> Subject: [Liveaboard] Energy Efficient Printers...
> 
> Hello Listees,
> 
> I'm in the market for a new printer.
> Any hands-on recommendations for an energy efficient, low cost per page,
printer ?
> 
> Cheers !
> Roy
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Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Power Issue

2011-03-01 Thread Vernon Densler 
>From what I have seen the ends are almost as much as a new cable.  

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On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 09:54:15PM +, Densler, Vernon R (IT Solutions)
wrote:
> Makes sense I guess.   Now I am going to need new cables.  For as much as
they cost they should last longer.

You might be able to make do with just replacing the plugs/sockets at the
ends.  A lot of the plugs/sockets don't even requrie you to be all that
handy with a soldering iron to fit them to a cable.

Cheers,
Kris

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Re: [Liveaboard] clear title

2010-09-27 Thread Vernon Densler 
If there are lien holders it should be on the title but it wouldn't hurt to
call the DMV and double check.  He can always go to the DMV with the person
to do the title change just to make sure.

 

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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:31 AM
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Subject: [Liveaboard] clear title

 

I have a friend who wants to purchase a large sailboat in Florida
essentially for cash.  How can he be sure that he is getting clear title to
the boat without any hidden liens.  I understand that a person can search
the Coast Guard vessel documentation files.  Is it also necessary to check
state and local records in Florida.  If so, how can that be done from
somewhere other than Florida?  Thanks in advance for any help and/or advice.

 

Lee Huddleston

s/v Truelove

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Re: [Liveaboard] Liveaboard Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10

2010-06-30 Thread Vernon Densler 
Well that is the way the software is written so there isn't much I can do
about it.  

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> From: "Vernon Densler" 
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Archives
>
> Yes in a way.  The one on my server replaces the @ with the word at so
that
> automated systems can't pick it up.  The other one just hides it.

Vern with all due respect, that particular obfuscation just makes the
address harvesters laugh.

regards, dave
S/V Auspicious

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Re: [Liveaboard] Liveaboard Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10

2010-06-30 Thread Vernon Densler 
Well actually I take back that there isn't much I can do about it.  I might
and I say might because I have to look at the way the directory structure
is, might be able to password protect the archives.

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> From: "Vernon Densler" 
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Archives
>
> Yes in a way.  The one on my server replaces the @ with the word at so
that
> automated systems can't pick it up.  The other one just hides it.

Vern with all due respect, that particular obfuscation just makes the
address harvesters laugh.

regards, dave
S/V Auspicious

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Re: [Liveaboard] Archives

2010-06-30 Thread Vernon Densler 
Yes in a way.  The one on my server replaces the @ with the word at so that
automated systems can't pick it up.  The other one just hides it.

As far as the difference, well the one on mail-archive.com is searchable and
the one on my server is not.  If you wanted to search the archives on mine
you would have to download the text files for each month and search them
yourself.

Vern

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Do the archives hide hopefully our e.mail addresses?
Lee Haefele
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> Thanks for your efforts Vern.
>
> I for one would appreciate the archives, though I am un-aware of the 
> difference between the two sources.
> I'm new to the experience in more ways than one.
>
> Since I'm new I just want to make sure of the rules...
> So far i figure I have to; repress my joy, express my currmugeon side, and

> contribute ways to improve communication.  Is that right ?
>
>
> On 2010-06-29, at 1:35 PM, Vernon Densler wrote:
>
>> Does anyone use the archives that are on mail-archives.com or just the 
>> ones
>> that are on my server?  Because the domain has changed I don't know if I 
>> can
>> get the mail-archives.com to switch over or if I will have to create a 
>> new
>> mail-archive.com archive for the new domain.  If no one is using it I 
>> won't
>> bother to do anything.  If it is getting used I will spend the time to 
>> see
>> what I can do to continue it with the new domain or create the new 
>> archive.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vern
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Re: [Liveaboard] test

2010-06-29 Thread Vernon Densler 
You mean the stuff at the bottom of every post?

 

From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com
[mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Weinstein
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:10 PM
To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] test

 

Interesting comment - I've been receiving the "new" list posts without
problems and more importantly without the posts going into the spam box.

 

Should I change the address in my software?

 

VERN - this brings up another thought - as long as we've got a new address,
when you have a chance, why don't you post the "list inquiry" address, the
"join the list" instructions, etc I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets
approached on the water or elsewhere and am asked how to subscribe, etc


 

S

 

Steve Weinstein
S/V CAPTIVA
1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376
Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY

 

All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Flying Pig   

To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com 

Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:00 PM

Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] test

 

Flying Pig got it, too.  Hooray.  New address in the book and it's up
again...

 

Wondered what happened...

 

L8R

 

Skip, in the Bahamas, where this list has missed an awful lot of our travels

 

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

 

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make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hand.  You seek problems because you need their gifts."

 

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[Liveaboard] Archives

2010-06-29 Thread Vernon Densler 
Does anyone use the archives that are on mail-archives.com or just the ones
that are on my server?  Because the domain has changed I don't know if I can
get the mail-archives.com to switch over or if I will have to create a new
mail-archive.com archive for the new domain.  If no one is using it I won't
bother to do anything.  If it is getting used I will spend the time to see
what I can do to continue it with the new domain or create the new archive.

 

Thanks,

Vern

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[Liveaboard] List

2010-06-29 Thread Vernon Densler 
The reason the list has been quiet is that it's been down.  The reason it
was down was because the domain expired.  Merrill had donated the domain and
I didn't have any control over it.  

 

So I registered a new domain which is liveaboardonline.com.  I am still
checking things and doing some work on the web side of the list but it looks
like the email part is now working on the new domain.

 

I am not sure what is going to happen with the archives yet so I have to
check those out.

 

Thanks,

Vern

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[Liveaboard] test

2010-06-29 Thread Vernon Densler 
test

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[Liveaboard] test

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