[ANNOUNCE]Technical Meeting Reminder
A brief reminder about this week's technical meeting. It's this Thursday (20th) at Reading Room, 1st Floor, 77 Dean St, W1D 3SH. We'll start at 7pm. Talks: Mail::ListDetector - Michael Stevens XML RSS - Paul Mison POD::Coverage - Michael Stevens Richard Clamp Java - Leaon Brocard Wax::On Wax::Off - Mark Fowler Richard Clamp Parrot - Simon Cozens. See you thare, Dave... -- .sig missing...
Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:51:40AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: I've just been tracking down a horrid little what seems to me a bug: pipermail apparently can't correctly parse an email address such as Firstname I. [EMAIL PROTECTED], but can for Fir... ... Is ^^ ^ this is not RFC822 (and I don't this is know about 2822) compliant. this a bug? Is there an online email address validation CGI script? (telnet localhost smtp thinks it's OK, fwtw) depends whether you call it a bug that it can only correctly parse RFC822 addressing. MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://colondot.net/
Re: tv
onthebox.com /Robert - Original Message - From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: tv Now that unmissabletv.com has gone away, how do I get all the terrestrial tv listings in one place on the web? Suggestions on the back of an email... -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:12:26AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:31AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:51:40AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: I've just been tracking down a horrid little what seems to me a bug: pipermail apparently can't correctly parse an email address such as Firstname I. [EMAIL PROTECTED], but can for Fir... ... Is ^^ ^ this is not RFC822 (and I don't this is know about 2822) compliant. Thanks, could you explain why/why not, and if you used a tool besides your brain to figure it out? I didn't (use a tool other than my brain), so I'll do this bit from memory: Email addresses are divided into a local part and a domain part, separated by an @ sign. The local-part and domain-part are themselves divided into one or more atoms separated by '.'. Comments are enclosed in parens. Any special character needs to be quoted. Because '.' is an atom separator, it counts as a special char. There are two common forms of specifying an email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Byng-Maddick) Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a simple [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a degenerate case of the first one) Suppose I want to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the comment part, I would have to express this as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is because there are two special characters '@' and '.'. '' and '' are also specials (from memory). Extending this to: M. Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] '.' defines an atom separator. So I now have two atoms M and Byng-Maddick (the spaces will be ignored, as these are legitimate at atom boundaries). then I get '' but I'm expecting an '@' or another '.'. I don't know if this quite explains it, but this is my understanding. (and yes, I did this from memory, so there may be errors). this a bug? Is there an online email address validation CGI script? (telnet localhost smtp thinks it's OK, fwtw) depends whether you call it a bug that it can only correctly parse RFC822 addressing. I am classifying (arbitrarily) that a bug is not parsing an address when it's valid. It can laugh in my face if it's not valid, I'll have to concede that :) Fair enough. It is reasonable to say that Be conservative in what you emit and liberal in what you expect means that you should just do it anyway. Since people do it, it could be classified as a bug to enforce strict RFC822 compliance, at least in this application. (I'm a little surprised exim is allowing it if it's not RFC822 valid; perhaps it's just discarding everything outside ) do you have headers_check_syntax and headers_checks_fail ? MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://colondot.net/
Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)
Hello. Some of us are going to check out the Three Cups in Holborn tonight, in the hope that it will be a Nice Pub where we can have future social meets. We are planning to get there at around 7pm. Please come and join us if you are free. To get there, come out of the read-only exit from Holborn tube and turn right down High Holborn. Before you get to the PO, there is a street off to the left called Red Lion Street. Go down here and take the first right into Sandland Street. It doesn't look much like a street at the moment as it is clogged up with construction stuff. Then there is a little street off to the left and if you take that you will see the Three Cups in front of you. Here is the streetmap arrow. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=530778Y=181722A=Y Kake
Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:43:39AM -0700, Dave Cross said: Isn't that the place we went to after Damian's Q::S talk? If not, it's very close to it. That place was nice, but very small[1]. And it had a good Indian just over the road. No, that's the Dolphin Inn. It's one of my favourite pubs. But it's a bit small for a l.pm meeting.
Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:59:39PM +0100, robin szemeti wrote: Londoner: 'oop north' - 'camden town, kentish town' (note map of the area north of there simply marked 'Here Be Dragons!' I disagree, oop north is way beyond kentish town camden NW*1* kentish town NW*3* note the low numbers they are lower the closer into the centre you get. I would, however consider Finchley, Barnet and Watford to be 'oop north'. Of course, I wouldn't ever choose to live 'darn sarf', and going South of the River always needs a sense of adventure for me. After all, they've barely heard of public transport... :-) MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://colondot.net/
Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?
On Wed Sep 19 10:34:47 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: Email addresses are divided into a local part and a domain part, separated by an @ sign. The local-part and domain-part are themselves divided into one or more atoms separated by '.'. Comments are enclosed in parens. Any special character needs to be quoted. Because '.' is an atom separator, it counts as a special char. That's right. There are two common forms of specifying an email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Byng-Maddick) Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Almost right. Anything in parens is a comment (as you said), and so it is ignored. Your examples, without comment, would be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a simple [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a degenerate case of the first one) It's not degenerate: it _is_ the first form. A mailbox email address can be either a simple address spec (your first example) or a 'phrase' followed by an address spec inside and (your second example). A phrase is a sequence of words, and a word is either an atom or a quoted string. Suppose I want to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the comment part, I would have to express this as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, you would want: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] although [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid email address, with a phrase instead of a comment. You could also write it as: (Matthew)[EMAIL PROTECTED](Byng-Maddick)mbm@(the domain)colondot.(on the)net This is because there are two special characters '@' and '.'. '' and '' are also specials (from memory). Yes. I don't know if this quite explains it, but this is my understanding. (and yes, I did this from memory, so there may be errors). I had to reread RFC 822 yesterday. -- Marty (pedantic) Pauley (his)perl(mailbox)@(his domain called)kasei(under the).com(tld) PGP signature
Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:59:39PM +0100, robin szemeti wrote: Most of populace: 'oop north' - 'the north of england, lake district, scottish borders' Scott: 'oop north' - 'wester ross, cape wrath, ullapool and environs' Londoner: 'oop north' - 'camden town, kentish town' (note map of the area north of there simply marked 'Here Be Dragons!' Southamptoners: 'oop north' - 'Winchester, Basingstoke, Guildford' (Anywhere you need to go through the Twyford gap to get to, although it's not so bad since they cut a big hole through Twyford Down.) -- Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pjcj.net
Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?
Marty pontificated about:
Marty (pedantic) Pauley (his)perl(mailbox)@(his domain called)kasei(under
the).com(tld)
Well, if we're going to be pedantic, don't you need a . after the com in
order to really mean it's a tld.
One day I'm going to install a host called 'com' or 'org' and watch the
fallout.
Later.
Mark.
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Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: South Londoner: 'oop north' - anywhere the other side of the river. For instance, balham might be a good place for a london.pm meet ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Headphones.
The time has come for me finally to buy some new headphones[1].
Suggestions?
I work in an office where we play music. Most of the time this is fine,
but sometimes I want to live in my own little soundtracked worldand I
don't want the music from the office intruding over the top of the quiet
bits in my music...nor do I want to have to play my music so loud that it
drowns out all the other music.
So I guess what I'm saying is has anyone found a pair of earphones that
are:
a) comfortable
b) block out noise from all sources
c) don't spill noise out the side[2]
Later.
Mark.
[1] I've run over the cable one to many times with the rolly chair
[2] So when I'm listening to Timmy Mallet's greatest hit no-one takes the
piss.
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RE: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Dave Cross wrote: From: Kate L Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is the streetmap arrow. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=530778Y=181722A=Y Isn't that the place we went to after Damian's Q::S talk? If not, it's very close to it. That place was nice, but very small[1]. And it had a good Indian just over the road. ^^^ Gee, do you think s/he would still be there now though? The travelling Damien roadshow passed through Londontowne months ago, didn't it? Why would this person still be there? ;) -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tv
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Now that unmissabletv.com has gone away, how do I get all the terrestrial tv listings in one place on the web? Suggestions on the back of an email... I'm quite fond of digiguide.co.uk myself. Web interface or Windows download... lets you make lots of nice customisable searches to highlight programmes for you that you might otherwise miss... Tony -- -- Tony Bowden | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.tmtm.com/ And if you need my attention Be bizarre --
Invisible ink e-mails
In the lastest installment of IT fuckwittage, I now bring you ... news type=fuckwittage 'Self destructing' emails developed A US firm has developed software which enables e-mails to self-destruct after a certain period of time, leaving no trace in inboxes or servers. Omniva Policy Systems's electronic equivalent of a paper shredder installs an extra send button on users' e-mail programs, called Send With Policy. When this is selected, the message is encrypted before it is sent and lets the sender specify a detonation time of anywhere between half an hour and even years after it has been sent. Only a unique key from Omniva's server can encrypt the e-mail and the recipient's e-mail program requests the key to decode the message. When detonation time is reached, the key becomes void. 'E-mail is a huge gateway - electronic assets are constantly flowing in and out,' said Omniva chief executive Michael Burkland. 'We're giving companies control.' Currently, only Microsoft Outlook users can use the software but Omniva is developing a Lotus Notes version, due out later this year. A free trial version of the current software is available at omniva.com /news Anyone else thinking Big Brother (not the crappy TV show)? ... I love the fact that the keys are made void (i.e. you can't get to them) and no mention is made of the message being actually removed from the system. Is it just me, or are more and more people starting to lose the plot? Ian _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Invisible ink e-mails
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:30:14AM +1000, Ian Brayshaw wrote: Anyone else thinking Big Brother (not the crappy TV show)? ... No, I'm thinking binary attachment, return to sender with complaint. See also: Word Document. Is it just me, or are more and more people starting to lose the plot? Yup. For most people, the plot is so far lost, the loony bin would be an easy option. -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ | | Tel: +44 (1273) 72 | | Address: 33 Bond St., Brighton, Sussex, BN1 1RD, UK. |
Re: Invisible ink e-mails
* Ian Brayshaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In the lastest installment of IT fuckwittage, I now bring you ... snip Is it just me, or are more and more people starting to lose the plot? Isn't it great? Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: Headphones.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:07:55PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: The time has come for me finally to buy some new headphones[1]. Suggestions? I would recommend a pair of Etymotic ER4-S headphones: http://www.etymotic.com/ a) comfortable b) block out noise from all sources c) don't spill noise out the side[2] I have a pair of these and they're amazing. Unfortunately, they're a bit on the steep side (around $300 iirc). However they're comfortable, block out noise from all sources and don't spill *any* noise, even at full blast (as long as you're wearing them). Chris -- Chris Carline [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://chris.carline.org/ GnuPG: 1024D/57B5CB20 | 5E85 207A 89D8 E097 0C0F FD4C 871A CE15 57B5 CB20 PGP signature
Re: Invisible ink e-mails
Only a unique key from Omniva's server can encrypt the e-mail and the
recipient's e-mail program requests the key to decode the message.
When detonation time is reached, the key becomes void.
How do you void the key? If I've decrypted the mail at some point I
*have* the key (as I am clever and have hacked my client to save me a copy
to disk) and once I have both key and the mail I fail to see how you can
void the message at a later date - I have the information and that's all
there is to it.
Silly, or am I missing the point again?
Mark.
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Re: Invisible ink e-mails
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:51:53PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: How do you void the key? If I've decrypted the mail at some point I *have* the key (as I am clever and have hacked my client to save me a copy to disk) ...and been locked up under the DMCA. Alex -- Four pints of milk, a turkey baster and some plastic tubing, that's all you need. http://www.cpio.org/~grimoire http://www.livejournal.com/users/diffrentcolours
Re: Headphones.
Chris said
I have a pair of these and they're amazing. Unfortunately, they're a bit on
the steep side (around $300 iirc).
Erk! At 300usd I'd expect to be able to read my mail on them too!
Are there similar kinds of thing in the 0-60ukp mark[1]
Later.
Mark.
[1] Yes, I know that's like saying gee, I like this ferrari...it's
really fast, but have you got anything that can do the same for a price
of a new mondeo instead[2]
[2] OTOH, this is possible. Ask Wistow or me about how we've seen that
done sometime.
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Re: Invisible ink e-mails
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:02:40PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: Damned if you do, damned if you don't, according to where you live. In the US, you'll be locked up under the DMCA, but over here, thanks to the wonders of RIPA, anyone holding an encrypted copy of a message who is later unable to get hold of the decryption key because it's been voided will go straight to jail for 2 years, without passing go. Of course, you've forgotten the European copyright directive. We've got a DMCA-alike on the way too. :-/ MBM (ok, so that's enough to put me back to being grumpy... :-) -- Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://colondot.net/
Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Exactly. Can't think of any reason at all why anyone would object to a meeting there. I put _myself_ out every month, trudging over the river _especially_ to come to the meetings. It's time you all came to my side of the river :) What I `forgot' to mention in my first mail was that having a london.pm meeting in balham is a double edge sword, now to illustrate my point let me present http://217.34.97.146/~gem/pics/london.pm/2000/july/DSCF0041.JPG http://217.34.97.146/~gem/pics/london.pm/2000/july/DSCF0038.JPG http://217.34.97.146/~gem/pics/london.pm/2000/july/DSCF0036.JPG now imagine if the comment on the last photo was `we seem to be in dave's house' however before london.pm's reputation falls any lower, i will point out that J.Stowe turned up for this meeting and hence it is probably his fault ;-) http://217.34.97.146/~gem/pics/london.pm/2000/july/DSCF0006.JPG Please note how sane it looks at this point until JS influences us, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?
Marty Pauley wrote:
There are already many hosts with the same name as a TLD. net.com
is one example.
Traditionally speaking (AIUI), that's not a host name, but a domain name,
under which hosts live (that is, hosts traditionally have a at least two
dots in their name). However, now-a-days there are lots of domain names that
are also hostnames, e.g. slashdot.org has an A record and is, therefore, a
hostname.
Oh, and all combinations of {com,net,org}.{com.net.org} are taken as domain
names (but I didn't look whether they are also hostnames).
Cheers,
Philip
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All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Headphones.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:02:09PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Erk! At 300usd I'd expect to be able to read my mail on them too! Apparently, they're as good as similar models priced at the 1000usd end of the spectrum, but at less than a third the price... 8) So arguably, they're *already* Ferrari performance for Mondeo price! Are there similar kinds of thing in the 0-60ukp mark[1] Not really. You can get some decent sounding phones at that price, but I'd stay away from the Timmy Mallet. I wouldn't recommend noise cancelling phones as they tend to be tuned more for background hum than normal office noise, and they don't tend to filter out background music terribly well either - at least not in my experience... 8). A good consumer-based review guide is here: http://www.audioreview.com/reviews/Headphone/index_byrating.shtml hope this might help (a bit!) Chris -- Chris Carline [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://chris.carline.org/ GnuPG: 1024D/57B5CB20 | 5E85 207A 89D8 E097 0C0F FD4C 871A CE15 57B5 CB20 PGP signature
Re: Invisible ink e-mails
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: Only a unique key from Omniva's server can encrypt the e-mail and the recipient's e-mail program requests the key to decode the message. When detonation time is reached, the key becomes void. How do you void the key? If I've decrypted the mail at some point I *have* the key (as I am clever and have hacked my client to save me a copy to disk) and once I have both key and the mail I fail to see how you can void the message at a later date - I have the information and that's all there is to it. Silly, or am I missing the point again? Not that I'm advocating this but you just send an HTML email with javascript that gets it source from a remote web server.. when you want to remove the email... just delete the javascript (or replace it with a timeout message) No flaming about either HTML or Javascipt in emails please :)
Re: Headphones.
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erk! At 300usd I'd expect to be able to read my mail on them too! Are there similar kinds of thing in the 0-60ukp mark[1] To my ears the Sony studio grade headphones sound very good, and should be well within that price range. Make sure the frequency response specified is at least 10Hz to 20kHz. For instance, this model: http://www.sonystyle.com/electronics/prd.jsp?hierc=8632x8746x8750catid=8750pid=4070type=s Specifies: Impedance: 24 ohms Sensitivity: 105 dB/mW Frequency Response: 10 -- 25,000 Hz Which is pretty good as headphones go. The impedance is a bit low, but as long as you turn the volume down it shouldn't be too much of a battery drain. That model is listed as USD 80, so should be within your budget. You might even be able to find a more portable version of the headphones that has the same specs, I have a pair that folds up into a space only slightly larger than a tennis ball and yet has the same stats as the above. -- Sam Vilain, [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://sam.vilain.net/ 7D74 2A09 B2D3 C30F F78E GPG: http://sam.vilain.net/sam.asc 278A A425 30A9 05B5 2F13 Hi, I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please!
Re: Invisible ink e-mails
History fails to record who quoted: Only a unique key from Omniva's server can encrypt the e-mail and the recipient's e-mail program requests the key to decode the message. When detonation time is reached, the key becomes void. Is anyone going to mention the gloriously mad Internet 2000 proposal from everyone's favourite programmer kook djb? http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html Mind you, looking at it, people still have the choice to do a local download; but if the servers didn't allow that for some messages you could expire them at the remote server. Job's a good 'un, as Bez would undoubtedly say. -- :: paul :: husk
Can't remember where I saw this
Hi I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to consider when writing modules. It _may_ have been compiled by Skud. Does any body have any idea which docu,ment I'm talking about or where I could find a copy? cheers Andrew
Re: Can't remember where I saw this
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: Hi I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to consider when writing modules. It _may_ have been compiled by Skud. Does any body have any idea which docu,ment I'm talking about or where I could find a copy? Not sure exactly what you're looking for but there are quite a few resources under http://www.cpan.org/modules/ notably the bit about contributing http://www.cpan.org/modules/04pause.html Paul
Re: Can't remember where I saw this
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to consider when writing modules. It _may_ have been compiled by Skud. Does any body have any idea which docu,ment I'm talking about or where I could find a copy? http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2001-08/msg00530.html -- Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pjcj.net
Re: Headphones.
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, robin szemeti wrote: Anyone playing music so loud in their headphones that others can hear it above the office clatter is well on the way to ruining their hearing. true, unless the headphones are open-backed. but if you those in an office the office the chatter will be about you, and your karma will suffer. when i used in-the-ear headphones, i made sure i couldn't hear them when they weren't in my ear. then i went off the idea of them completely. i try not to listen to really expensive headphones because they make the sounds so much more enjoyable, and i can't afford a pair myself. alex -- y0, I am in the desert
Re: Headphones.
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: The time has come for me finally to buy some new headphones[1]. [1] I've run over the cable one to many times with the rolly chair Suggestions? Cordless headphones? You can get a nice pair of Sony infrareds for ~UKP50 from argos. The transmitter is very light, and can be blu-tacked to the top or side of a monitor. The transmitter requires mains power, and the phones use a single Walkman battery, though this lasts for a *long* time. The earpieces themselves are large enough to block out distracting noises from management, cow-orkers etc... I likes 'em. jon eyre -- eval($sig)||die(q(no sig))
Re: Can't remember where I saw this
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:21:43PM +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to consider when writing modules. It _may_ have been compiled by Skud. Does any body have any idea which docu,ment I'm talking about or where I could find a copy? http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2001-08/msg00530.html Yep, that's it. Thanks a lot. cheers Andrew
Re: Invisible ink e-mails
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:51:34PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: Is anyone going to mention the gloriously mad Internet 2000 proposal from everyone's favourite programmer kook djb? http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html You may have, but it's a crazy idea, nonetheless. Mind you, looking at it, people still have the choice to do a local download; but if the servers didn't allow that for some messages you could expire them at the remote server. Job's a good 'un, as Bez would undoubtedly say. How are you planning to read it if you don't download it? MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://colondot.net/
Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:51:40AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Is there an online email address validation CGI script? There is now, http://realprogrammers.com/cgi-bin/check_email_address.cgi It's not too quick on account of RFC::RFC822::Address using Parse::RecDescent, despite my best[1] efforts with mod_perl and a dual P3-600. There is also Mail::RFC822::Address: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address/Mail-RFC822-Address.html http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html has the mighty regex. ...but not yet on CPAN (AFAICT) so I couldn't be bothered. Thanks to all who commented on all this! Have fun, Paul [1] SetHandler Apache::Registry::handler is about my limit.
