Re: Virtual machine development
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:54:42PM +0100, Peter Cooper wrote: > > > Playing with virtual machines is great fun, though. Everyone should do > > > it once, even if it seems like it is a little low-level. > > > > Pah! Everyone should also write their own language, with an interpreter > > or compiler; they should write their own OS too, and at least one device > > driver for some other OS. > > Hehe. You mock, No, I'm dead serious. Got 'em all done too apart from writing a device driver for a lesser OS. -- Grand Inquisitor Reverend David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Some people, when confronted with a problem, think ``I know, I'll use regular expressions.'' Now they have two problems.-- jwz
Re: Virtual machine development
> > Playing with virtual machines is great fun, though. Everyone should do > > it once, even if it seems like it is a little low-level. > > Pah! Everyone should also write their own language, with an interpreter > or compiler; they should write their own OS too, and at least one device > driver for some other OS. Hehe. You mock, but I'm sad enough to have a little mental lists of 'programming things I want to do before I die'. -) Write a portable full featured e-mail client in Perl/Tk, so I can use it on both my Windows and Linux machines. (Started) -) Write a simple 32 bit multitasking OS, nothing fancy. (Researched most of this, completed a little) -) Port a C compiler to said OS -) Write a compiler of my own -) Develop my own microcontroller using FPGA. And lately, "Write a virtual machine" has been added to the list. Anyone else got any programming challenges they'd like to try and meet before their time is up? Pete
Re: Virtual machine development
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:45:33AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > Playing with virtual machines is great fun, though. Everyone should do > it once, even if it seems like it is a little low-level. Pah! Everyone should also write their own language, with an interpreter or compiler; they should write their own OS too, and at least one device driver for some other OS. -- David Cantrell | Member of the Brute Squad | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david One person can change the world, but most of the time they shouldn't -- Marge Simpson
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Re: Virtual machine development
"Peter Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, anyone got any suggestions, ideas, or links that I could use? If you've > been working on your own VMs or VM like system, I'd be interested in knowing > about it. I've done the usual Google research, but other than JVM stuff, > there's not much about VMs.. and I'm not keen on the JVM stack-based > approach. It might be worth taking a look at kaffe -- a GPL clean room JVM with classes. Development seems to have been a bit slow of late but there has been a recent release. http://www.kaffe.org/ I don't know how useable it is as a dropin JVM but it does seem to have been used as the basis for other OSS and research projects such as JITs etc. -- Steve Mynott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Virtual machine development
Peter Cooper sent the following bits through the ether: > Does anyone here know of any good resources or references I should > be looking at to help me learn about virtual machine development? No, there's suprisingly little out there on virtual machine design and development. Well, a lot of things mention it in passing: check out the old Pascal and Forth papers for example. BTW, I consider this very on-topic for p6i, so go post the question there as well ;-) > there's not much about VMs.. and I'm not keen on the JVM stack-based approach. Well, you're not going to like any other virtual machine then. Almost all of them are stack-based, which is why Parrot is so notable. Playing with virtual machines is great fun, though. Everyone should do it once, even if it seems like it is a little low-level. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... Tonight's the night: Sleep in a eucalyptus tree
Perl/Tk; Tk::Text; exportselection
Has anyone tried using Perl/Tk's Tk::Text widget with exportselection set true? If the selected area is >4000 characters, I get (when X-pasting) a single byte which is apparently related to the length of the selection... Is this a known problem? Roger
Re: Penderel ssh
Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:44:24AM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: > > (OTOH, a published alternative admin address would be > > useful for when penderel is b0rken... sending email to root > > at brokenbox is not going to do a lot of good :) > > You can probably guess at least three of them :-) Probably... but when something is b0rken I don't necessarily want to dig through my mail archive hoping that I've kept some emails from them so that I can look up their addresses. (And at home I don't have my london-list spool available at all.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Penderel ssh
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:44:24AM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: > I don't know, but for some reason I have this mental image of mail to root > landing in a file on the mail spool on the box and sitting there for an > indefinite time until someone logs in as root (which probably doesn't happen This would definitely be a very sloppy set-up. root should always be in /etc/aliases or its equivalent. In fact under some circumstances MTAs won't even deliver to root's mail spool as they'll be too low a privilege. Further, doing ordinary non-system admin tasks like reading mail as root is a sloppy practice. > (OTOH, a published alternative admin address would be useful for when > penderel is b0rken... sending email to root at brokenbox is not going to do > a lot of good :) You can probably guess at least three of them :-) There is also a mailing list sysops but that's more for internal use but certainly no-one would object to questions or suggestions there. Sending to the list about penderel issues is not a terribly effective route. A) 297 other people don't want to know about it B) a chat list isn't read as high priority as people's inbox. Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ "If the car doesn't start in the rain, then there will be much jubilation in the streets tonight." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
