Re: Freelance cooperatives (was: Recruitment Consultant Database)

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Sergeant
> > seek out like-minded company, for inspiration and moral support if nothing 
> > else.  I'm looking for successful examples to follow, and potential allies.
> 
> Well I have been thinking about making the jump for a long time,
> but I am finding it very hard todo so. But eventually I want to
> start my own company. So if you want someone who can help, albeit
> on a limited basis, and at the same time you may be helping them.
> Then keep me in mind.

Well, I've made most of the jump myself - I'm going part-time at work,
I'm looking into starting a limited company, and have a few clients
lined up for various web/perl things. One of the things I'm doing is
bringing Schwern to England for a week to do a series of one-day courses
at companies about testing with Perl. I'll be posting details to the
list about this sometime early next week - if anyone would be
interested, and would like to be kept up-to-date, let me know...

+Pete

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Re: Freelance cooperatives (was: Recruitment Consultant Database)

2003-03-04 Thread Graham Barr
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:50:21PM +, Nick Woolley wrote:
> I also have other friends who have companies and do work for them 
> occasionally.  The main reason I'm asking this question about cooperatives is 
> because working on one's own can be damn hard, and the lesson seems to be to 

I know how it feels. I dont work for myself (yet) but I do work from home
for an American company.

> seek out like-minded company, for inspiration and moral support if nothing 
> else.  I'm looking for successful examples to follow, and potential allies.

Well I have been thinking about making the jump for a long time,
but I am finding it very hard todo so. But eventually I want to
start my own company. So if you want someone who can help, albeit
on a limited basis, and at the same time you may be helping them.
Then keep me in mind.

Graham.



Re: Bank Of America (was: Re: Natwest module)

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Jarvis
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 05:10:53PM +, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:05:36PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
> > Related by banking, but in no other way, I need to write the code to
> > process CC payments with BoFA.  The interface looks pretty
> > straightforward, but if anybody else has already written it, I'd love
> > to steal from you.
> 
> Putting "bofa" in search.cpan.org returns
> Business::OnlinePayment::BankOfAmerica as the first result...

D'oh!  I swear I checked.  Thanks for correcting my brain damage for
today.
 
-- 
mike



Bank Of America (was: Re: Natwest module)

2003-03-04 Thread Russell Matbouli
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:05:36PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
> Related by banking, but in no other way, I need to write the code to
> process CC payments with BoFA.  The interface looks pretty
> straightforward, but if anybody else has already written it, I'd love
> to steal from you.

Putting "bofa" in search.cpan.org returns
Business::OnlinePayment::BankOfAmerica as the first result...
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Re: Natwest module

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Jarvis
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:07:48PM +, Peter Sergeant wrote:
> I've today written the first half of a perl script to screen-scrape
> Natwest's Online Banking. All the authentication parts are implemented,
> but now I've lost interest (no pun intended). This should probably exist
> as:
> 
> Finance::Bank::Natwest

Related by banking, but in no other way, I need to write the code to
process CC payments with BoFA.  The interface looks pretty
straightforward, but if anybody else has already written it, I'd love
to steal from you.

http://www.bankofamerica.com/merchantservices/index.cfm?template=merch_ic_estores_developer.cfm


-- 
mike



Natwest module

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Sergeant
I've today written the first half of a perl script to screen-scrape
Natwest's Online Banking. All the authentication parts are implemented,
but now I've lost interest (no pun intended). This should probably exist
as:

Finance::Bank::Natwest

If anyone would like to take up the torch, take my existing code, and
finish it, I'm more than happy to send it to them. Chances are, if
no-one does, I'll release in a few months.

+Pete

-- 
Much may be made of a Scotchman, if he be caught young.
 -- Samuel Johnson



Re: Freelance cooperatives (was: Recruitment Consultant Database)

2003-03-04 Thread Nick Woolley


On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:25 pm, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > [herding cats]
>
> (I'd like to see a moritorium on using this phrase. It was kind of funny
> the first hundred or so times, now it just seems to be rather
> unimaginative and cliche'd - not a trait I usually associate with
> programmers. TIMTOWTexpressI surely!)

Oops. Sorry.  But TIMTOWDI is such a phrase too, surely?

> Inexperience in: organising teams, management of projects, motivation,
> etc. Now those are typical programmer traits :)

yep.

> When
> work comes up the particular required skill is being able to form
> appropriate teams in a short space of time, manage clients and back-end
> work, and of course actually deliver.

How have you been finding this?

> I get the impression more and more coders are seeing the need for
> developing their soft skills.

Absolutely.  Which is why I'm looking for examples (and counter examples) of 
prior art which I can try and learn from or emulate.

> In other news, a tentative project is underway to rent out space in
> central london for a digital community of some sort - shared resources,
> paid admin, PAs, etc. More news on that as it breaks but anyone
> interested who feel they can contribute (not code/tech skills; got
> those) by all means contact me offline.

Potentially I'm interested, if only as another contact/collaborator.  

On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 2:01 pm, Marty Pauley wrote:
> Why not set up a company to do it?  Some agents insist on working with
> a limted company.  If you want your own agent, he could be an employee.
> The legal status of a limited company is clear.

I have one.  I share directorship with a friend, and we're sort of scraping 
by. But it's a small company - just a vehicle for contracting/payment, really 
- there are only two of us, and we're relatively new at the game.  There are 
lots of lessons to be learnt.  The problem is our small scale, lack of 
business experience, and sometimes, motivating ourselves in the face of all 
the shit that comes along.  

I also have other friends who have companies and do work for them 
occasionally.  The main reason I'm asking this question about cooperatives is 
because working on one's own can be damn hard, and the lesson seems to be to 
seek out like-minded company, for inspiration and moral support if nothing 
else.  I'm looking for successful examples to follow, and potential allies.

Taking on employees though - especially agents - is probably not the route I'd 
take since we have no reliable income.  I was thinking more of a shared agent 
with whom one has some kind of a relationship and who has a motivation to 
help me, rather than seeing me as just another CV to edit.  Probably I should 
be schmoozing with them more than I do.


On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 9:15 pm, Patrick Carmichael wrote:
> It is worth having a look at the goings-on at Free Developers
> (http://freedevelopers.net/).

Thanks, I've added it to my 'to read' bookmarks and I'll need a bit longer to 
digest that.


Nick
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Re: Microptomisation games

2003-03-04 Thread Jason Clifford
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, darren chamberlain wrote:

> >   my $left  = shift;  # this/self
> >   my $right = shift;  # the other obeject
> >   my $rev   = shift;  # have the args been reversed by perl?
> 
> But you can do that anyway:
> 
> my ($left   # this/self
> $right  # the other obeject
> $rev) = @_; # have the args been reversed by perl?

But the latter method is more susceptible to maintainance errors in my 
view.

Jason Clifford
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