Re: [OT] accessors pragma
Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For what it's worth...
Perl 6 classes will autogenerate accessors that return the underlying
attribute itself as an lvalue:
class DogTag {
has $.name is public;
has $.rank is public;
has $.serial is readonly;
has @.medals is public;
submethod BUILD ($id) { $.serial = $id }
method title () { return $.rank $.name }
}
my $grunt = DogTag.new(71625371);
$grunt.name = Pyle;
$grunt.rank = Private;
print $grunt.title ($grunt.serial)\n;
And Perl 6 supports chaining of accessors using $_ and the unary dot
operator, not return values:
given $grunt {
.name = Patton;
.rank = General;
push .medals, Purple heart;
}
The more I play with Smalltalk, the more I like it:
grunt
setName: 'Patton';
setRank: #General;
addMedal: Purple heart.
For those who don't know Smalltalk, the semicolon says 'send the next
message to the same object' and the full stop terminates the
expression.
Then, just as I'm lost in admiration for it, it goes and does this to
me:
2 + 3 * 2 - 10
And the weird thing is, within a Smalltalk context I don't hate it
(much) because it's apparent that it does that because that's how it
handles *every* binary message.
Re: Database setup
On Wed 17 Sep 2003, Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I just write the SQL in text files and run them through the database's built in client. I don't want the hassle of having to work out where to install these text files. Kake
Re: Online payment providers
Jason Clifford wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, nemesis wrote: Netbanx: http://www.netinvest.co.uk/ncr/netbanx/ Of the ones listed these are the only ones I would specifically avoid. On the few occassions I've had to pay via their service it's been impossible as their site only seemed to work with a browser from a certain company in Redmond. I will steer clear of these then. Worldpay: http://www.worldpay.co.uk/ I am using Worldpay and their service works really well for me. Ouch. Unless i am reading their near impossible to navigate site incorrectly, they want to charge 4.5% per transaction. Might have a look at some of their other options. Will.
Re: SWF spider
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:01:50AM +0100, Paul Makepeace said: Do the any .swf parsers provide a list of all the anchors and referred- to media in a movie? Put another way, given a .swf, is there a way of knowing what further HTTP requests would and could be generated from loading and/or then interacting with it? http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gravel/libswfparse/text_extract.c?rev=1.5content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup From the Gravel stuff that Ben Evans, Richard Clamp, Leon and I work(ed) on intermittently. Code's a mess but we've run it against a large test suite of SWFs and it seemed reliable and remarkbly un-segfaulty. Feel free to ask about anything. Simon
[ANNOUNCE] Social Meet 2nd Oct @ The Star + Tonight Tech Meet
[ First up, remember there's a tech meet tonight at The Angel at Old Street. See http://london.pm.org/lpma/2003-May/55.html for info ] Announcing the October social meeting of the London Perl Mongers, which will be held after seven on Thursday the 2nd of October in the upstairs room of the Star Tavern in Belgravia (That's two weeks today if you're reading this on the day I sent it.) It's the pub we had our July Social Meeting in, and quite a few people expressed an urge to go back. The Star is in walking distance of Victoria, Sloane Square, Hyde Park Corner and Knightsbridge. Full directions to the pub are included in this email below. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=528107Y=179347A=YZ=1 http://openguides.org/london/index.cgi?Star_Tavern,_SW1X_8HT Social meetings are a chance to meet up for a quiet drink. They allow members of the group to chat about Perl and other issues over a pint, and put names (or nicks) to faces and they present an informal way for people to pass on or acquire Perl knowledge. Non-Perl programmers any way affiliated with London.pm or it's members are always made welcome, and they'll be plenty of non-Perl talk that they shouldn't feel excluded. The meetings start at approximately 7pm, though people often arrive earlier than this as they come directly from work. Quite a few people will opt to eat in the pub rather than eating beforehand; This month's venue The Star is fabled for it's excellent steaks. There's no formal plan for the evening (apart from drinking and chatting) and people should feel to turn up and leave when they want, though the majority of people will remain in the pub till closing time so late-comers shouldn't be worried about us leaving before they get there. Directions: The Star Tavern is located in a little cobbled street behind the German Embassy. Below are directions to get there from various places. -- From Sloane Square -- Essentially you want to take the north exit off the square and head up Sloane Street and then take a right down Pont street till you get to the embassy, and then down the cobbled mews till you find the pub. So, in detail: Come out of the station. Standing as you are with your back to the station you want to go up the road diagonally opposite on the right (so turn right, cross the crossing, and on the other side turn left and walk for a bit till you come to Sloane Street - a big wide street - on your right.) You want to keep going up Sloane street till you come to Pont Street, the junction of which has traffic lights on it. Turn right (east) down this street and keep going. The road will start to veer off to the left, and at this point you should see a large white building with black windows that is the German embassy on the left hand side (north) side of the road. In a big, tall, archway under the embassy there should be a cobbled street. Head up this street and The Star is on the end on the left. -- From Victoria -- Essentially you want to cross the road out of the station and then head up Lower then Upper Belgrave Street so you get to Belgrave Square. From here you want to take the second left exit to Pont Steet and turn right though the German embassy up the cobbled mews to the pub. In detail: From the tube lines, follow signs for main station and get to the surface. Turn left and walk past starbucks and pret a manger - you want to get to Buckingham Palace Road which is the road the busses enter the bus station off of. Cross the road at the traffic lights and use the other set of traffic lights to the left to get off the mini-island you're on. You should now be in front of the deserted Usit campus office. go left (west) along Buckingham Palace Road then take the first right (north) up into Lower Belgrave Street. Continue up this street, passing drinking establishments such as The Victoria on your left, and the The Plumber Arms. This road turns into Upper Belgrave Street - just keep on going until you come to Belgrave square. Here, turn left and take the second exit off the square (the one that goes directly west) down Pont Street. Almost immediately on your right you should see the German embassy (a big white building with black windows) and a large phallic like statue. There should be an archway here under the embassy leading up a cobbled street. Go up this street and The Star will be on the end on the left. -- From Knightsbridge -- Essentially you want to get out of the tube and then head south down Sloane Street until you come to Cadeogan Place. Turning down here you simply want to walk east for a short while until you come to the north end of a cobbled mews that the pub is located on. In detail: To get out of the tube, take the exit signposted for Harvey Nichols / Knightsbridge (south side) / Sloane Street (east side) [it's signed differently in different places but these are all the same exit, to the right as you come out of
Re: [OT] accessors pragma
Well, So far there's a 55/45 split for chaining, so I'll release a preliminary version with: use accessors qw( foo bar baz ); # same as accessors::chained use accessors::classic qw( foo bar baz ); use accessors::chained qw( foo bar baz ); The last one will guarantee backwards compat in case I get enough feedback to warrant changing the default. Ta for all the replies, -Steve
Re: Thinking YAPC::America::South::Brazil
Dan Sugalski wrote: [...] There are details in various places, but a good place to start is www.yapc.org and www.perlfoundation.org, which have information about holding YAPCs. (It may be a bit tough to find, as I think they're working on the sites, but it is there) YAPC::NA venue requirements are at http://www.yapc.org/venue-reqs.txt. (I think the YAPC::EU requirements are online somewhere) There's this, if that's what you were thinking? http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/kwiki/yapc/index.cgi?WikiHomePage David
[ANNOUNCE] Tech Meet Tonight reminder: was Re: Social Meet 2nd Oct @ The Star + Tonight Tech Meet
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:
[ First up, remember there's a tech meet tonight at The Angel at Old
Street. See http://london.pm.org/lpma/2003-May/55.html for info ]
CORRECTION:
I am officially a moron, and can't use copy and paste to save my life.
The details of tonight's tech meet can actually be found here.
http://london.pm.org/lpma/2003-September/70.html
Sorry about the confusion. To make this post worthwhile, here's a list of
people who are talking and what on:
Dave Cross will be giving a twenty minute talk on Writing a Book Using The
Template Toolkit, where he talks about writing the upcoming Perl Template
Toolkit book that he co-authored.
Martin Ling was kind enough to provide a quick summary of his 20min talk:
Alzabo (http://www.alzabo.org) is a Perl data modelling tool that groks
relational database systems. You can use it to manipulate database
schemas in the abstract, reverse engineer them from existing DBs, and
generate SQL diffs to a live database to rearrange its structure. It
also provides an object-oriented runtime API which provides similar
features to Class::DBI and other modules. Martin Ling will give an
overview of its capabilities, compare it to other related modules and
preview some new features in development.
Nicholas Clark will be giving a lightning talk on the upcoming release of
Perl 5.8.1 and what's changed in the new shiny shiny version of Perl.
I'll be waffling about my new Attempt module that I will release to CPAN
just as soon as I complete this email, honest guv.
Leon Brocard will be talking about the plans for the CPAN cabal meeting in
a couple of weeks entitled How can we make CPAN even better?
Tom Huskins will presenting a lighting talk about his experiences of
teaching Perl to absolute beginners.
James Duncan will be explaining to us why he's never ever going to write
another container class again.
Finally Earle Martin will be detailing Stupid RSS Tricks On IRC.
So you can see, it's going to be a lot of fun, with a wide range of
topics.
Hope to see you there.
Mark.
--
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: Thinking YAPC::America::South::Brazil
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, David Landgren wrote: Dan Sugalski wrote: [...] There are details in various places, but a good place to start is www.yapc.org and www.perlfoundation.org, which have information about holding YAPCs. (It may be a bit tough to find, as I think they're working on the sites, but it is there) YAPC::NA venue requirements are at http://www.yapc.org/venue-reqs.txt. (I think the YAPC::EU requirements are online somewhere) There's this, if that's what you were thinking? http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/kwiki/yapc/index.cgi?WikiHomePage Yep, that'd be it. Dan
nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
Hi, I'm going to Santa Clara next week and landing at SF airport a little over a day before I need to be there. Since I'd rather spend those hours in a fun place (as opposed to Santa Clara), I've been thinking about staying one night in SF. Thing is, I don't know the place, and all that guides will do is tell you about dozens of nice places in there. I also don't have much time to read the said guides :) So, since this list is pretty international, I guess the *has* to be someone here that knows SF, at least a bit, and that would be able to recommend a not too expensive but nice/fun/full-of-bars area in which to pick a hotel. Thanks! -- Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Scientist, Expway http://expway.com/ 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Robin Berjon wrote:
So, since this list is pretty international, I guess the *has* to be someone
here that knows SF, at least a bit, and that would be able to recommend a not
too expensive but nice/fun/full-of-bars area in which to pick a hotel.
Dude, this is London.pm. I think you want SanFrancisco.pm.
http://sanfrancisco.pm.org/
Mark.
--
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:06:36PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
Dude, this is London.pm. I think you want SanFrancisco.pm.
Are you sure? Remember how the typical hotel conversation goes with a
local?
Tourist: Say, where would I find a hotel here.
Local:Sorry, I can't help - I {rent,buy,squat in} a {flat,house,elephant}
--
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SWF spider
You might find ming worth looking at. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ming/ They seem to like PHP for some strange reason but last time I checked it did have a perl interface. Paddy On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:01:50AM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: Do the any .swf parsers provide a list of all the anchors and referred- to media in a movie? Put another way, given a .swf, is there a way of knowing what further HTTP requests would and could be generated from loading and/or then interacting with it? Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ If I could count every drop of water in the sea, then I'd be eating through a permanent tube. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
Richard Clamp wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:06:36PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
Dude, this is London.pm. I think you want SanFrancisco.pm.
Are you sure? Remember how the typical hotel conversation goes with a
local?
Tourist: Say, where would I find a hotel here.
Local:Sorry, I can't help - I {rent,buy,squat in} a {flat,house,elephant}
My thoughts exactly, I couldn't for the life of me recommend a hotel in Paris :)
You're much better off asking a fairly large, friendly, and beerlubbin non-local
crowd.
--
Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Research Scientist, Expway http://expway.com/
7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 02:36 PM, Richard Clamp wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:06:36PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
Dude, this is London.pm. I think you want SanFrancisco.pm.
Are you sure? Remember how the typical hotel conversation goes with a
local?
Tourist: Say, where would I find a hotel here.
Local:Sorry, I can't help - I {rent,buy,squat in} a
{flat,house,elephant}
too true, seeing as how i lived there for the four years previous to
this, and i couldn't really recommend anything past picking something
*NOT* in the tenderloin, perhaps preferably somewhere around union
square or pacific heights or [s]nob hill. to get more specific than
that, i'd have to know what you wanted to do with your small amount of
time (don't say fisherman's wharf don't say alcatraz).
the only hotels i know are the really upscale remarkable ones (the
ritz, hotel triton, the W, etc.), more as points of reference than
anything. maybe perusing http://sanfrancisco.citysearch.com/ would be
good? as of when i left six months ago, hotel rates were really cheap,
so don't rule out the nicer ones!
candace
Re: Surrey.pm (was: back to the 80's)
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:06, Richard Atkinson wrote; I live in Guildford, Surrey and I'm also rather partial to beer. I think it must be time to organise the second ever Surrey.pm meeting. But /are/ there any decent real ale pubs in Guildford? It's all trendy wine bars these days, from what I've seen. Oh how my heart pines for the Penderel's, the Knight's Templar or the Calthorpe :( How about the Weyside? Not an ale pub but a few on tap, and a nice meeting spot. I'd also be up for meeting at the Red Lion in Godalming, if a wide variety of ale on tap is a requirement. (Though I am definitely agreed in principle on a surrey.pm meet) Me too, living right behind Guildford train station... -- Sam Vilain, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take what you can use and let the rest go by. KEN KESEY
RE: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
So, since this list is pretty international, I guess the *has* to be someone here that knows SF, at least a bit, and that would be able to recommend a not too expensive but nice/fun/full-of-bars area in which to pick a hotel. Coincidence -- I was out there staying with friends last week. You might try: http://www.norcalhostels.org/ I've not used them myself, but friends have, and recommend them. Don't get too hung up on hotel location. SFO is only about 7 miles square, so as long as you're in the city itself a cab from A to B isn't going to cost more than $30 or so. If you're anywhere north of Market Street you can pretty much walk from A to B in 30 minutes. Broadway's a good area for bars and restaurants -- in fact, most of the North Beach area's good. N -- 11 2 3 4 5 6 77 0 0 0 0 0 0 05 -- The 75 column-ometer Global Messaging, A: Who's there? 120 Cheapside, x83331 Q: Knock, knock
Re: Online payment providers
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Sam Vilain wrote: For new businesses though other banks tend not to offer the service without very large bonds, if at all. I didn't have £5,000 to £10,000 to give to the bank for this. I know of a company who were charged a £500,000 deposit for their merchant account. Probably to do with their turnover and market though. From what I understand that's the rough price of a payment gateway where you only get charged 2.5%. Online transactions always attract premium charges even though there seems to be little or not evidence to support claims that there is a higher risk of fraud. Internet merchants also seem to be required to pay higher deposits. But you still get stung £25 for chargebacks. I cannot remember what worldpay charge for them. I avoid them by the simple expedient of checking all transactions and refunding those that seem dodgy - two in the past 18 months of trading with a total value of about £4.00. Jason Clifford -- UKFSN.ORG Finance Free Software while you surf the 'net http://www.ukfsn.org/ ADSL Broadband available now
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 04:09:17PM +0200, Robin Berjon wrote:
Richard Clamp wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:06:36PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
Dude, this is London.pm. I think you want SanFrancisco.pm.
Are you sure? Remember how the typical hotel conversation goes with a
local?
Tourist: Say, where would I find a hotel here.
Local:Sorry, I can't help - I {rent,buy,squat in} a
{flat,house,elephant}
My thoughts exactly, I couldn't for the life of me recommend a hotel in
Paris :) You're much better off asking a fairly large, friendly, and
beerlubbin non-local crowd.
San Francisco is definitely a city you can enjoy without using
you car all the time.
Disclaimer: I have not been there since 1992. My favorite place
was North Beach, not far from Chinatown. In fact I enjoyed a lot
Grant Street that spans both places. Lots of cafes and good
italian restaurants. After spending some time at City Light, an
old bookstore (http://www.citylights.com/), I liked very much to
walk up the hill from there to the place where the the Coit Tower
is (never went in: there is a very good vista
of the city and the bay form the place itself) and down in a very
scenic, greend and intimate pedestrian allay (partly wooden
stairs) to the Pier 23 Bar/Restaurant with live music (my
favorite day was Thursday carabean music). The most direct path
to Pier 23 was not possible due to a land slide but you can
handle an extra-walk. Pier 23 is a small place, not to be
confused with Fisherman Wharf that is a tourist magnet.
http://www.sfstation.com/bars/pier23/
enough to fill an evening, and certainly places enjoyed by
european people.
--
stef
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
Clayton, Nik [IT] wrote: Don't get too hung up on hotel location. SFO is only about 7 miles square, so as long as you're in the city itself a cab from A to B isn't going to ^^^ Shurely some mistake? Jasper
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:23:18PM +0100, candace wrote: too true, seeing as how i lived there for the four years previous to this, and i couldn't really recommend anything past picking something *NOT* in the tenderloin, There's a good hotel in the tenderloin, the Pheonix. Where the rock stars stay. Of course it's in the tenderloin, so no matter how nice the hotel is some people won't want to stay there. I liked it, my girlfriend didn't like walking to/from it, but liked the hotel. perhaps preferably somewhere around union square There's a cheap place on Union Square. The Ramada is about as inexpensive as you'll find in San Francisco, but it shows. I stayed in the same room that Billie Holiday was arrested in(heroin, 1949), which was cool. But not so cool that I didn't move across the street to the Hyatt the next day (which was nice, but much more expensive.) -- mike way too squirrely for Karl Rove
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
--On 18 September 2003 14:44 +0200 Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, since this list is pretty international, I guess the *has* to be someone here that knows SF, at least a bit, and that would be able to recommend a not too expensive but nice/fun/full-of-bars area in which to pick a hotel. For the full-on San Francisco hippie experience, including a location on Haight Street, an owner named Sami Sunchild, and a website decorated with hearts and peace signs, try the Red Victorian Bed and Breakfast (www.redvic.com). Not the cheapest possible option, but it definitely has character. I've been a guest myself and would be again. michael
Re: Online payment providers
Online transactions always attract premium charges even though there seems to be little or not evidence to support claims that there is a higher risk of fraud. Well, I once set up an online shop using a traditional EPOS machine. Some windows box with an ISDN line to barclays did credit card transactions, just like in a regular shop. Only we batch processed card payments collected via a website. Yes, lots of yuckiness with us collecting plaintext live CCard numbers, moving them around by sneaker net for security blah blah blah. But it worked. And Worldpay wasn't around then :-) Look on the bright side, emetrix charge 13.4% :-)
REVIEW: Server load Balancing
Hopefully the formats correct first time on this one. Has anyone read any of the other load balancing books on the market? Dean -- Dean Wilson http://www.unixdaemon.net Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon?xml version=1.0? page title=Server Load Balancing keywords= item pAuthor: Tony Bourke/p pa href=http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/serverload/;ISBN: 0596000502 /a/p pPublisher: O'Reilly amp; Associates/p pReviewed by: Dean Wilson/p /item item p I like concise books, no one wants a 1500 page breeze block which has long winded examples and rambles through the subject matter (*cough* Wrox *cough*) but this book sets new standards in small. With eleven chapters and three appendixes in just under 170 pages you get a nagging suspicion that the meat of the topic is going to be left uncovered. You'd be half right./p pThe chapters are broken in to three sections with the same number of appendixes at the end of the book:/p ul liPart 1, Concepts and Theory/li ul liIntroduction to Server Load Balancing/li liConcepts of Server Load Balancing/li liAnatomy of a Server Load Balancer/li liPerformance Metrics/li /ul liPart 2, Practice and Implementation/li ul liIntroduction to Architecture/li liFlat-Based SLB Network Architecture/li liNAT-Based SLB Network Architecture/li /ul liPart 3, Configuring Server Load Balancers/li ul liAlteon WebSystems/li liCisco CSS Config Guide/li liF5 Big-IP/li liFoundry ServerIron Series/li /ul liAppendixes/li ul liQuick command reference/li liDirect Server Return Configuration/li liSample Configurations/li /ul /ul pWhats to like about the book? Well it provides a good overview of the concepts and some of the theory behind the technology. The pace is brisk (although it doesn't have much choice!) so you can gain a basic grounding in the technology in short order. Parts one and two of the book are both good, understandable and cover their ground well but i couldn't help but think they belonged in another book, Craig Hunts TCP/IP Administration for example would make a good home, as they are not strong enough to make the book a must have purchase./p pNow on to the less than excellent aspects of the book. As would be expected from a book this size covering such a large topic the coverage is pretty shallow, all the books examples focus on webservers and pay only lip service to other potential uses of the technology./p pThe network diagrams deserve a special mention, I'm unsure if i should love them or hate them. On the upside they shed light on a number of passages that could otherwise end up being meaningless and require pages of solid text to explain. On the downside a number of them are wrong. Examples include multiple machines in the same diagram sharing the same IP address (the real address, not the virtual one) when they definitely shouldn't and confusion as to which network the hosts are on./p pThe third section covers 4 chapters, is 63 pages long (a significant chunk of the book) and provides short tutorials on using the four different vendor solutions, if you don't plan on using one of these systems or only use one of them then the other chapters will be of only moderate use as examples of possible implementations that you could use as inspiration. The same can be said of appendix A which serves as a command quick reference for the products covered in section 3./p pAny book covering commercial networking products is going to age rapidly and this book falls into that trap. The coverage of the four commercial solutions eats up over a third of the book. While it provides some nice contrasts between the available options it doesn't make a very strong section and ties up a lot of pages for very little real coverage. The documentation that came with your load balancer should cover everything the respective chapter in this book does and a lot more besides./p pWhat could a second edition do to improve the book? Coverage of an OpenSource balancer or two wouldn't go amiss. The books focus could also be widened to increase it's appeal. In the very first chapter the author introduces firewall load balancing and global server load balancing but with only a paragraph on each they are left woefully neglected. A couple of chapters on these topics would help shift the books focus from just web servers and increase make it a much more desirable purchase./p pThis is a good introductory book on the subject matter that just isn't strong enough to justify its purchase. Its far from the only book on the subject you'll ever need (although with only four other published books on the topic your choices are limited!) but makes an ideal advert for the Safari service O'Reilly provide, something you'll read the first section of once, comprehend perfectly on the first time through and never need again./p /item /page
Re: Online payment providers
hi. you could try www.moneybookers.com. i don't know how their fees compare to others, but as far as security goes, it's regulated by the Financial Services Authority of the United Kingdom (FSA). -- joro nemesis wrote: Hi all, I need to advise someone on online payment taking services (for a shopping cart system), but although I have a fair idea how a lot of the systems work, I have no idea if any of them are any good or what to look out for. I have found a few companies that seem well known: Netbanx: http://www.netinvest.co.uk/ncr/netbanx/ Datacash: http://datacash.com/ Secpay: http://www.secpay.co.uk/ Worldpay: http://www.worldpay.co.uk/ Protx: http://www.protx.com/ Secure Trading: http://www.securetrading.com/ E-clear: http://www.eclear.net/ But although most offer seemingly similar services, I don't know if any of them are crap. Have any of london.pm had experience dealing with these companies andwhat should I look out for? Are there any that should definatly be steered clear of? Many thanks w.
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
Without going back to Allen Ginsberg and the beat generation, to get in the mood, you should get some tales of the city by Armistread Maupin to read during the flight. Easy reading and fun. BTW: The editor of the French translation is appropriately located in Le Marais. But even if I was told the translation was good, you should go for the original. I wonder if they found an French equivalent to the anagramatic Anna Madrigal. http://www.literarybent.com/totc_02_novels01.html And if you need to hang out in the Silicon Valley, there is hardly any lively place but University Avenue in Palo Alto. -- stef
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tech Meet Tonight reminder: was Re: Social Meet 2nd Oct @ The Star + Tonight Tech Meet
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: * *Leon Brocard will be talking about the plans for the CPAN cabal meeting in *a couple of weeks entitled How can we make CPAN even better? Posing that question to London.pm will likely bring on a slew of Acme modules to bring up your CPAN portion to 20% or more. :) And, considering how public this meeting has become, neither cabal nor junta could really be applicable. Since Jarkko and I never seem to be able to travel without some perl event, it seemed like a good excuse at the time travel to London in time for the LotR costume exhibit and bookshopping. Well...and drinking beer and scotch :) e.
FW: Regexp::Common::comment
I just discovered Regexp::Common today, and it's most excellent. But I'm having
trouble using $RE{ comment }{ Java }. Apparently doing something like:
grep /$RE{ comment }{ Java }/, MY_JAVA_FILE;
only catches comments of the form:
// . . .
and misses comments of the form:
/* . . .
. . .
*/
Is this a bug? Did I forget a prerequisite config thingy? Can someone please point
out my luser error?
Jeff
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Re: FW: Regexp::Common::comment
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 12:03:08PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just discovered Regexp::Common today, and it's most excellent. But I'm having
trouble using $RE{ comment }{ Java }. Apparently doing something like:
grep /$RE{ comment }{ Java }/, MY_JAVA_FILE;
only catches comments of the form:
// . . .
and misses comments of the form:
/* . . .
. . .
*/
Is this a bug? Did I forget a prerequisite config thingy? Can someone please point
out my luser error?
My guess is that grep() in that circumstance is reading line by line,
and you'd want to either slurp the file into a single scalar, or force
grep() to be greedy [this works with m// using the s modifier, but may
not with grep?].
I'm really not sure, tho.
Do you get any different results with:
my $entiretext = MY_JAVA_FILE;
grep /$RE{ comment }{ Java }/, $entiretext;
?
/joel
Re: FW: Regexp::Common::comment
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 05:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
grep /$RE{ comment }{ Java }/, MY_JAVA_FILE;
This is checking each individual line to see if it contains a comment.
Catching multiline comments requires checking a group of lines as one.
Try something like:
my @comments;
local $_; {
local $/; # Makes the next line work :-)
$_ = MY_JAVA_FILE; # Gets entire source file as a single string
}
push @comments, $1 while /^.*($RE{comment}{Java}).*$/gm;
Warning: I have not tested this code.
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
So, since this list is pretty international, I guess the *has* to be someone here that knows SF, at least a bit, and that would be able to recommend a not too expensive but nice/fun/full-of-bars area in which to pick a hotel. Was in SF recently (Nov 02 and Apr 03), the Tenderloin is definately worth avoiding unless you like really pushy beggars, or want to buy some crack. Ramala is good and cheap, I think theres one in Market Street. I actually stayed at a hostels when I was there, which is good for meeting people if thats what you wanna do. One Hotel was in the Tenderloin (too druggy and homeless) and the other was at Fort Mason (too quite). Heres a list of hotels. http://geektools.com/geektels/showhotels.php?country=USAstate=Californiacity=San+Francisco Anywhere along Market St, is probably good, location-wise. Close to CompUSA (computer store) and the obligatory cable car (which is a tram if you ask me). Funniest act of begging, woman in car pulling over and asking for money for gas! Hope this was vauguely helpful. Mike Haworth
Re: Surrey.pm (was: back to the 80's)
Sam Vilain wrote: How about the Weyside? Not an ale pub but a few on tap, and a nice meeting spot. Yep, that works for me. How about next thursday? A
Re: nice part of San Francisco and hotel?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:36:04PM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote:
Are you sure? Remember how the typical hotel conversation goes with a
local?
Tourist: Say, where would I find a hotel here.
Local:Sorry, I can't help - I {rent,buy,squat in} a {flat,house,elephant}
I don't know about San Francisco, but some folks once lived in an
elephant along the Jersey Shore[1]...
Walt
1. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/NJMARlucy.html
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