Re: The Perl Review Magazines Available
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 09:27:03PM +, Tom Hukins wrote: If you'd like any or all of these, please mail me off-list. I can bring them to any london.pm meeting. I brought them along to this evening's meeting and they all found new homes for the new year. It was good to see you all again. Those of you who couldn't make it missed some good beer, good food and interesting conversation. See you all in February, Tom
The Perl Review Magazines Available
Hi all, I've just tidied up several issues of The Perl Review that need a new home. See http://theperlreview.com/ for details. I don't want any money for them - they'll find their way to my recycling bin if nobody wants them. I have volume 1 issues 1-3, volume 2 issues 0-1, volume 3 issues 2-3, volume 4 issues 0-3 and volume 5 issues 0-2. If you'd like any or all of these, please mail me off-list. I can bring them to any london.pm meeting. Tom
Re: The Perl Review Magazines Available
Hello Tom, i'd be really happy to have one or several or all of them. I am a Perl advanced beginner. I've been a frenetic beginner for 15 months, learning as much as i can, my passion being to try and code as cleanly as i can. I like the code to read like a book. Well, a very specialized kind of book i guess - Science Fiction? That's why i like Perl : you can choose how it is best to write for different purposes and in different contexts, and even make the language evolve! I tried to read those online and couldn't access them. I even registered a few months ago. Er... a bit too late. I came to a few London.pm technical events, but didn't socialize much, unless for asking technical questions. Well, if i get some magazines i'll be happy. Otherwise i'll have spent a bit of time explaining why i like Perl ;-) Which reminds me of a presentation at LPW, where the speaker was saying that we miss newcomers-oriented content, like testimonies. I have no idea where to send a testimony too, though. Happy new year :o) Pierre aka mascip On 30 December 2012 21:27, Tom Hukins t...@eborcom.com wrote: Hi all, I've just tidied up several issues of The Perl Review that need a new home. See http://theperlreview.com/ for details. I don't want any money for them - they'll find their way to my recycling bin if nobody wants them. I have volume 1 issues 1-3, volume 2 issues 0-1, volume 3 issues 2-3, volume 4 issues 0-3 and volume 5 issues 0-2. If you'd like any or all of these, please mail me off-list. I can bring them to any london.pm meeting. Tom
Magazines
I've been clearing out my bookmarks and found one for the Perl Review, (http://www.theperlreview.com/), after a quick mosey around the site it looks like its stopped being published. Does any one know the story behind it? It seems a shame to lose first perlmonth and now The Perl Review[0] The TPJ however is still going, does anyone here subscribe to it and is it worth the cash? (I know its not that much.) Dean [0] Its interesting to note that pyzine has floundered as well. -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
Re: Magazines
Dean Wilson wrote: I've been clearing out my bookmarks and found one for the Perl Review, (http://www.theperlreview.com/), after a quick mosey around the site it looks like its stopped being published. Does any one know the story behind it? The work force behind the Perl Review is brian d foy, who apparently is currently quite busy somewhere near Iraq. Hence this temporary interruption. (I noticed as well some lack of activity on the perlfaq CVS.)
Re: Magazines
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 10:49:35AM +0100, Dean Wilson wrote: The TPJ however is still going, does anyone here subscribe to it and is it worth the cash? (I know its not that much.) I subscribe. I think it's $1/issue or something silly. I find it to be an interesting read, and it sometimes makes me think about old things in a new way, or just makes me think about new things. It'll be a real shame it TPR has fizzled out, I quite enjoyed that too. Profanity is the one language all programmers understand Or the first attempt by $website to print this for me: http://tinyurl.com/ftfz :-( -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | They asked how many employees we had, w: www.herlpacker.co.uk | broken down by sex. Told them drugs gpg: D167E7FE | and alcohol was more of a problem.
Re: Magazines
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 09:49, Dean Wilson wrote: I've been clearing out my bookmarks and found one for the Perl Review, (http://www.theperlreview.com/), after a quick mosey around the site it looks like its stopped being published. Does any one know the story behind it? It seems a shame to lose first perlmonth and now The Perl Review[0] No, but it was written in LaTeX and that is shiny goodness!
[OT] List reply-to (was [OT] Magazines)
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:49:02PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to? ... http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Please fix this. That argument has been done. However, there is a middle way which doesn't generally get proposed: the list sets a Reply-To: if and only if there is no Reply-To: already present in the mail. That way, most messages are automatically reply-to-list, but anyone who wants private follow-ups can set them; it's the equivalent of being able to set Followup-To: poster. Of course, some people have broken email software which puts Reply-To: in all their messages, but that's their problem. Roger
Re: [OT] List reply-to (was [OT] Magazines)
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 09:09, Roger Burton West wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:49:02PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to? ... http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Please fix this. That argument has been done. However, there is a middle way which doesn't generally get proposed: the list sets a Reply-To: if and only if there is no Reply-To: already present in the mail. That way, most messages are automatically reply-to-list, but anyone who wants private follow-ups can set them; it's the equivalent of being able to set Followup-To: poster. I think the latest versions of mailman do this. Also they fix Paul Makepeace's bugbear of not mailing those who are already CC'd. Mailman has some excellent, progressive features now. Of course both these features can be switched on or off per list. What it still doesn't do is to make reply-to munging a per-user option, that would be nice. alex -- alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] state51
Re: [OT] Magazines
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 3/14/03 7:49:02 AM Greg == Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg (sorry folks that should have been a private email) Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to? http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Please fix this. Please don't lets go thru this flamewar again. Yes, mailing lists that set the reply-to header are bad and wrong. But it's the behaviour that most people seem to expect these days, so I think that we confuse less people by doing it the wrong way. Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in a world where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
Re: [OT] List reply-to (was [OT] Magazines)
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, alex wrote:
What it still doesn't do is to make reply-to munging a per-user option,
that would be nice.
I have great hope in the siesta project being completed and allowing us
all such wonderfully user configuration options. Until this point the
subject is officially closed, and people can take it up with me offlist if
they feel a need to do so.
Mark.
(Putting his foot down for once)
--
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: [OT] Magazines
Quoting Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in a world where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid. I have the impression it's more like 99% these days :( Kris,
Re: [OT] Magazines
From: Kris Boulez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/14/03 9:47:16 AM Quoting Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in a world where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid. I have the impression it's more like 99% these days :( You may have a point, but I am feeling unusually optimistic this morning so I currently only hate 95% of the world. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
Re: [OT] Magazines
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 01:33:40AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) Greg == Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg (sorry folks that should have been a private email) Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to? Just like it sucks when people use supershite. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Please fix this. Please stop using supershite. Same thing, really. I mean, I can't see why anyone would want to get at least 2 copies of any reply to a message they post to a mailing list, but maybe that's just me. Very few posters on non reply-to munged lists seem to be able to trim their replylists. Please don't lets go thru this flamewar again. Yes, mailing lists that set the reply-to header are bad and wrong. But it's the behaviour that most people seem to expect these days, so I think that we confuse less people by doing it the wrong way. I don't think that's the reason. And of course, there is also the standard corollary to Randal's URL which is what you get if you google for Reply-To considered useful. If you don't like it, randal, you can always unsubscribe. Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in a world where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid. No. See Rule 1. 100% of the inhabitants are stupid. -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
Re: [OT] Magazines
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Lusercop wrote:
Stuff.
This subject is closed. These _subjects_ are closed.
If you have any comments to make regarding the policy of the list with
regard to Reply-To munging, people using quoting tactics, various email
behaviours, etc, please take it up with the list admins off list. I
repeat OFF LIST.
The list admins can be reached at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is all.
Mark.
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#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: [OT] Magazines
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 13:26, Mark Fowler wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Lusercop wrote: Stuff. This subject is closed. These _subjects_ are closed. And who appointed you list Nazi? Oh, we did. Never mind. -- Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Magazines
[ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support this ] I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines Linux Format and Linux Magazine and most of the last 3 or 4 years of Linux Journal and Web Techniques (aka New Architect). I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway. So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house before then. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
[OT] Magazines
[ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support this ] I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines Linux Format and Linux Magazine and most of the last 3 or 4 years of Linux Journal and Web Techniques (aka New Architect). I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway. So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house before then. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
Re: [OT] Magazines
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support this ] I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines Linux Format and Linux Magazine and most of the last 3 or 4 years of Linux Journal and Web Techniques (aka New Architect). I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway. So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house before then. if nobody else wants them i might have be interested, however not before sunday - this would be so much simpler if you still drank as i could just bring a bottle of calvados round as payment and we could drink that sheesh, i have no idea how to arrange collection, so please give them away if its hassle. Greg -- *** *** *** Email address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please *** *** update your email address book. *** *** *** Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Magazines
* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support this ] I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines Linux Format and Linux Magazine and most of the last 3 or 4 years of Linux Journal and Web Techniques (aka New Architect). I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway. So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house before then. if nobody else wants them i might have be interested, however not before sunday - this would be so much simpler if you still drank as i could just bring a bottle of calvados round as payment and we could drink that sheesh, i have no idea how to arrange collection, so please give them away if its hassle. (sorry folks that should have been a private email) -- *** *** *** Email address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please *** *** update your email address book. *** *** *** Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Magazines
Greg == Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg (sorry folks that should have been a private email) Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to? ... http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Please fix this. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!
Perl magazines
I've just seen the 'call to arms' on Slashdot (http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/07/1443229.shtml?tid=145) about the Perl journal missing its required number of subscribers by over two thirds and i thought i'd ask about other peoples views on The Perl Review and TPJ. My view is that if a magazine can't get 3000 subs internationaly then it should be left to die, if it can then good luck. Should the two perl mags be folded in to one (Why pay for TPJ when TPR is free? Is the competition harmful?) or should we have a scripting language (bi-?)monthly and pull in Python (Although pyzine is quite a good read) Ruby and maybe even TCL? Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
Re: Perl magazines
* Dean Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've just seen the 'call to arms' on Slashdot (http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/07/1443229.shtml?tid=145) about the Perl journal missing its required number of subscribers by over two thirds and i thought i'd ask about other peoples views on The Perl Review and TPJ. My view is that if a magazine can't get 3000 subs internationaly then it should be left to die, if it can then good luck. FWIW, I'd be willing to buy at least 2 subscriptions to TPR if they had a similar call to arms. However I am cynical at best of SysAdmin magazine/whoever's bastardisation of TPJ. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl magazines
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 04:52:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Dean Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've just seen the 'call to arms' on Slashdot (http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/07/1443229.shtml?tid=145) about the Perl journal missing its required number of subscribers by over two thirds and i thought i'd ask about other peoples views on The Perl Review and TPJ. My view is that if a magazine can't get 3000 subs internationaly then it should be left to die, if it can then good luck. FWIW, I'd be willing to buy at least 2 subscriptions to TPR if they had a similar call to arms. However I am cynical at best of SysAdmin magazine/whoever's bastardisation of TPJ. TPR _does_ have a similar call to arms http://www.theperlreview.com/. I've subscribed to TPR. I haven't subscribed to TPJ. Dave... -- Brian: Oh screw Maximilian! Sally: I do. Brian: So do I.
Re: Perl magazines
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 04:52:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'd be willing to buy at least 2 subscriptions to TPR TPR _does_ have a similar call to arms http://www.theperlreview.com/. Excellent, before I buy 2+ subscriptions is there a way I could buy 1 subscription but have it cost more? I warn the organisers that if they force me to buy extra subscriptions in order to support this excellent endeavour I will come up with something ludicrous to do with the extra copies. When was this announced? I'd suggest if i didn't know about it, either a.) i got confused and forgetful (entirely possible), or b.) it wasn't announced widely (wildly?) enough. Also is dha still the editor, different parts of the website seem to disagree on this. Greg p.s. EVERYONE SHOULD SUBSCRIBE! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl magazines
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 05:30:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 04:52:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'd be willing to buy at least 2 subscriptions to TPR TPR _does_ have a similar call to arms http://www.theperlreview.com/. When was this announced? I'd suggest if i didn't know about it, either a.) i got confused and forgetful (entirely possible), or b.) it wasn't announced widely (wildly?) enough. It seems to be on use.perl, but I didn't know about it either. I subscribe to an inordinate number of Perl mailing lists and tend to think that anything important will eventually get to one of them. This seems to have done so (three weeks later), but I would have missed the Perl 6 Mini::Conference if I hadn't seen it on The Conway Channel. p.s. EVERYONE SHOULD SUBSCRIBE! -- Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pjcj.net
