Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to Get Informative Boot/Install
Did you MD5 test the ISO? Did you burn as SLOWLY as you could? Have you checked the CD for defects? Have you tested your RAM for errors? On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote: Thanks, Andrew. When the nomodeset didn't work, I tried that post's second option: i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa but it stopped at the same place, although with a small font. Lane On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.comwrote: I downloaded, burned, and booted the new Alpha2, but it died along the way with a black screen. No error messages preceded its death. Is there a boot/install option that will spew those progress messages across the screen so I may have a clue about the cause of death? Lane ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp *Lane Lester* The Web Doctor http://www.the-web-doctor.com You can have your own website for just $10+10+10! Click here to visit one of my sites.http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=lanelester ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to Get Informative Boot/Install
When you see the First boot screen, press pace and you will get the normal text boot screen. You can now test the CD for defects. A slow burn and MD5 success will pretty much garuntee this but it's worth a test. The same screen can test the ram. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Did you MD5 test the ISO? No, but I just did, and it's correct. Did you burn as SLOWLY as you could? Yes, 8. Have you checked the CD for defects? No, don't know how. How does one do that? Have you tested your RAM for errors? No, because I often install new distros, and I recently installed the Ubuntu Minimal CD Alpha 2 without difficulty. OTOH, my fairly new motherboard has an nVidia chipset, which sometimes causes problems. Lane On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.comwrote: Thanks, Andrew. When the nomodeset didn't work, I tried that post's second option: i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa but it stopped at the same place, although with a small font. Lane *Lane Lester* The Web Doctor http://www.the-web-doctor.com You can have your own website for just $10+10+10! Click here to visit one of my sites.http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=lanelester ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to Get Informative Boot/Install
Boot th CD, when you see the first boot screen press spacebar and select check CD, you can also test your RAM here too On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: If I recall, the routine for testing the CD that is on the CD will report failure. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DevelopersHas the work-around for it. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: When you see the First boot screen, press pace and you will get the normal text boot screen. You can now test the CD for defects. A slow burn and MD5 success will pretty much garuntee this but it's worth a test. The same screen can test the ram. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.comwrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Did you MD5 test the ISO? No, but I just did, and it's correct. Did you burn as SLOWLY as you could? Yes, 8. Have you checked the CD for defects? No, don't know how. How does one do that? Have you tested your RAM for errors? No, because I often install new distros, and I recently installed the Ubuntu Minimal CD Alpha 2 without difficulty. OTOH, my fairly new motherboard has an nVidia chipset, which sometimes causes problems. Lane On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.comwrote: Thanks, Andrew. When the nomodeset didn't work, I tried that post's second option: i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa but it stopped at the same place, although with a small font. Lane *Lane Lester* The Web Doctor http://www.the-web-doctor.com You can have your own website for just $10+10+10! Click here to visit one of my sites.http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=lanelester ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] NetworkManager bug in Lubuntu?
Install wicd instead. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, list. Lubuntu Lucid installed from mini.iso seems to be affected by a bug in NetworkManager (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024): the wired network interface is not managed by NetworkManager by default. Does anyone know if this also happens when installing from Lubuntu CD? Regards! Mikhail ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Changes to the seed
evince does a fine job, not too sure on its lightness but will review -Andy On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I made some changes to the lubuntu-desktop package (which was a bit broken recently) for Maverick : - Replacing epdfview by evince : let's try if it's lightweight and good enough. - Adding ace-of-penguins : it's a collection of little games (cards, minesweeper ...). Not fancy but very lightweight :) Any feedbacks / tests are welcome. I don't plan to add any more modifications until Alpha 3, planned for 5 or 6th August. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some suggestions
If you tweak openoffice to use less ram, simple On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:57 PM, John Zoidberg zohn.joidb...@gmail.comwrote: Slightly off-topic: 3. Gnome office is a light office suite but very poor, Open Office is heavier but is a real working tool. I do 95% of my 'office' work with Abiword, Gnumerics, Osmo and xpad. Only rarely do I require OOo, and usually that is to import some Excel spreadsheet.were somebody has used some dubious technique to achieve something that can be done in a simpler way. That reminds me: I had problems switching between openoffice and gnumeric. One of them couldn't import the format of the other. Furthermore, there were big problems with the date format (DD/MM/YY and MM/DD/YY). Some kind of conflict between the system locale settings and the app settings. I'll have to analyze things a bit and make a bug report eventually. On-topic: I use both Chromium and Firefox. (Firefox+noscript+private mode for banking for instance) My main problem is that weave/sync and xmarks are unusable on my old laptop. They just completely hang everything when syncing. Firefox also tends to slow down the system sometimes. For browsers, seamonkey (default in Puppy Linux) could also be a good default choice. Other candidates might be midori, arora, epiphany. As for office stuff, I prefer OpenOffice, even if it takes more time to start. Especially after all the problems I had with portability of the gnumeric format and date formats. However, the goal of Lubuntu is to be lightweight, so it makes sense not to include it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Only one password request?
Do you mean using gksudo or sudo in command line?? Remember sudo is ONLY for command line apps and gksudo is for X based apps. -Andy (actionParsnip) On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: I noticed this before, but forgot about it. When you open any app requireing sudo privilages you only get one go at the password. If you get it wrong you have to restart the app. This is true in both Lucid and Maverick. In X/Ubuntu you get several (three?) attempts, useful for clumsy typists. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Only one password request?
Yeah that is normal. Happens on my Ubuntu desktop too. -Andy On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:51:33 +0100 Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: I noticed this before, but forgot about it. When you open any app requiring sudo privileges you only get one go at the password. If you get it wrong you have to restart the app. This is true in both Lucid and Maverick. In X/Ubuntu you get several (three?) attempts, useful for clumsy typists. Do you mean using gksudo or sudo in command line?? Remember sudo is ONLY for command line apps and gksudo is for X based apps. -Andy (actionParsnip) sudo is OK, it gives you the three attempts. gksu or gksudo only give the one attempt or something like synaptic gives only one attempt. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC bots
to add to ubottu (the bot in #ubuntu) run: !factoid is description e.g. !eggs is Eggs are laid by chickns and can be made into tasty omelettes etc. Run this in #ubuntu channel and it will be reviewed for addition. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi gang, *ubot2* in amongst my travels I've had a chat about the little room bots that live on rooms like #ubuntu-beginners that people can ask questions of (try entering !grub and !grub2 on that room). I have been informed that we can have the ubot2 added to #lubuntu if we wish. This would give access to a quick way of people getting information. I've also asked about the adding to the ubot2 (for example lxterminal) and have been told that this can be requested. *meeting bot* We can also have a meeting bot added, so any meeting that we hold on #lubuntu will be automatically formatted and archived. Zach had a play with it on the #ubuntu-beginners-wiki channel. The result of it can be found at http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-beginners-wiki/2010/ubuntu-beginners-wiki.2010-07-11-15.57.html (I hasten to add, it was just Zach learning from Alan a bit about how the bot works, with me looking on ;-) ) I propose that we have this functionality added to #lubuntu, please let me know whether to ask for either or both to be added. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Opera browser on lubuntu
To install a deb file you can use: sudo dpkg -i file.deb And it will install, you can make apt attempt to satisfy dependancys (if they are needed) with: sudo apt-get -f install Should be fine -Andy On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Daniel Hallett dhallett2...@gmail.comwrote: How am I able to install the .deb file on lubuntu? And how am I able to auto install updates for lubuntu? I am using lubuntu 10.04. Sent from my iPod ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues
Did you MD5 test the ISO? If you installed using a CD, did you check the CD for defects? -Andy On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: I just did the alpha-2 install on my Mini-9 Netbook, and there were various little issues that arose. I'm not sure what level of detail you want at this point, or if you want a distinct thread started for each issue, so I'll just quickly list some here and perhaps you could indicate which, if any, are of interest to pursue further? 1 - Install went fine until it reached the 95% point of Installing System, running dpkg, at which point it simply stopped for about a half hour and then completed the install successfully. I was almost ready to abort, and I suspect many people would have. 2 - My screen was so dim that it literally wasn't usable until I Googled for this issue and added appropriate commands to the grub startup command (both during the install and for subsequent boots). 3 - On first run of Synaptic, it reports Auto Removable items. It also generates errors, when I Reload, about signatures which couldn't be verified. 4 - The browser has some minor problems, but I see that there are already bugs filed on chromium-browser which cover those. I haven't had a chance to test it much. Is there a particular test regimen you'd like run, or aren't we at that point quite yet? Regards, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues
Burn as SLOWLY as you are allowed. Even 1x if you can. It will give a better image on the CD and will reduce errors by jitter and such. Using a USB device alleviates the need for moving CDs and such (assuming you can boot USB). If not definately burn slow, try another brand if you still get issues and try not to use CDRWs. -Andy On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: @Phill: Thanks.. the 95% bug I should have looked up! If I can ever burn a CD (see below) I'll try the install with ethernet unplugged. :) @Andy: Okay, this is weird. I did check the md5sum of the ISO I downloaded, but I did *not* check the CD I burned.. and I should have. I've now made three coasters, four counting the original one, and no matter what system I use to burn the CD, the file boot.cat comes out with the wrong md5. It's the only error on the CD. Neither Brasero nor Xfburn can put this image on a CD without screwing up that one file. And neither one warns me of the error. I wonder why it's always the same file? Anyway, my apologies.. I should have checked the CD as well as the ISO, obviously! There's something I won't forget to do ever again. :) Now if I can just get it to burn accurately, just once, I can start over and hopefully things will work better. Regards, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] usb sound
No I just use one that plugs into my already configured soundcard. Using USB for audio just over complicates things and I have no idea why the idea has taken on so much. We have audio in and out on the soundcards we use, even ones back i the ealy 90s had them. Why can't we just use those. So much easier, no drivers, no worries. Just slam it in and BAM!! It works. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, has any one got either a set of usb speakers or usb head phones ? an OP on IRC could not get theirs to work, and not having a set I couldn't help. It will, no doubt, be some silly setting :-) Thanks, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium Flash
I use the 64bit PPA, works great On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Jaeic Lee zerax...@gmail.com wrote: That's how it is for me too, I just have to install the plugin and chromium picks it up automatically. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 08:33 -0400, Bob Trevithick wrote: If for some reason Chromium doesn't pick up the copy of the plugin in the mozilla directory, maybe making a symbolic link would be a better option? That way any updates would automatically be applied to Chromium's version, and there's less disk wasted? --Bob On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:17 +0100 Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Just copy it to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins And run chromium-browser with --enable-plugins. (Unless I'm outdated and it's enabled by default now). -- Kind regards, Chow Loong Jin Unless I’m missing something, all I did was ensure the Partner Repository was enabled and did an 'apt-get adobe-flashplugin'. Start Chromium and flash functions OK. This was on a clean Lucid install. -- Steve (YorvYk) http://lubuntu.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium Flash
Just copy it to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins Simples On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, Okay, I can leave that bit out, it is just I know that set of instructions work so am not to blame if it does not work for the next peron ;-) Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.comwrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:04:08 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi gang, I know the chromium team are working on in-built flash support, until that happens and lubuntu ships it, can I pop on the instructions from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html over onto the wiki help area, i'm guessing 'Advanced Users' would be the place for it. First you need to make sure you have installed chromium browser Now you need to install flash using the following command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Now you need to copy libflashplayer.so file into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins directory sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins I don't think it's necessary to copy the .so file around. Chromium automatically searches in the mozilla plugins' directories as well. [...] -- Kind regards, Chow Loong Jin ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
I'd just like to add one thing that EVERYBODY is forgettin GRUB IS NOT THE *ONLY* BOOTLOADER Try LILO, It is a perfectly fine bootloader, or am I just thinking outside the box here and being too radical. Just because Grub is default in Ubuntu doesn't mean it is the best solution. You could also try BURG -Andy On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 08:33 +0100, Phillip Whiteside wrote: hi Goh, yes, there is, it is not a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/496435/comments/6 says is not fully tested, the consensus of those who are dealing with problems over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 is still to use still to use dpkg-reconfigure and not apt-get etc. I'm awaiting the guy who writes up a lot of documentation that we mere mortals use to refer to in order to have a chat with him, I have a strong sense that he will also shrug his shoulders and say that the grub team have messed up (again) and to continue to use the dpkg-reconfigure option. I recall that grub2 came out and totally broke RAID support. They have been playing catch up ever since. Given the chance, I'd use burg as it is more pro-active and re-active to problems. I really do not know why we are arguing over this? Grub 2 can cause major problems when there is more than one hard disk involved - that is beyond dispute. In 9.10 it cannot support RAID, with 10.04 we got a newer version that gave some RAID support, but they would not back port it, when 10.04 came out it had a big fall out with Win7. - that is still a 'work around'. Such a basic part of *nix should not need 'work-arounds', n00bs will not that there is one - It must be sorted out. Should not we be trying to help the OP, it is quite evident there is a problem and people get annoyed over having their computer in a non booting mode? Regardless of any sleek looking graphics, let us not fall into the trap that Microsoft did with Service Pack 2 for XP. When we do tempt people over to *nix, if their first introduction to it is a broken system they will not only never come back, they will tell everyone that *nix breaks computers. That is not acceptable, we are in the hands of the Grub people - so people should complain there and we should ensure that people asking why lubuntu does not work in such situations are clearly told that it is not a fault of lubuntu. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:12:35 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Goh, I'm not quite sure how to explain this to you? Rule #1 You install *buntu it works, if it does not work it does not break anything. At present it can totally break things. There is no point arguing over it, just go see the forum area for people for whom it has broken there is no point saying that it is does not, as there are a lot of people saying that it does. The problems with grub2 and Win7 were bad enough under the 'older' grub2. You do not seem to have read through that thread fully some links to read, Phillip, have read your links above. To add, there are some problems not in your links related to Dell's recovery system, raid, lvm and others...but not to denigrate your specific issue which is the failure to install by install grub-pc and you have found success by sudo apt-get install grub-pc; yes, you're right, I cannot see the point arguing that it should just work with install grub-pc and not just sudo apt-get install grub-pc. You do not seem to have read how to use 'sudo' and 'apt-get' rather than understanding how to install grub. Are there any more specific issues with grub you like to bring up rather than saying I haven't read fully? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list:
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] key error
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver p http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/gp.mit.edu --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4 Should be ok On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi gang, I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I include it at the bottom. Any ideas? (23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys (23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).* (23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin those updates of ubuntu (23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link (23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D (23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date (23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic it gives me some errors (23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the room.* (23:31:54) phillw: what errors? (23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list of ubuntu (23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on (23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).* (23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable (23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable (23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let me know what it says (23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa (23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo ubuntu ?? (23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ? (23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host (23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be checked, that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error before when one of the servers for updates has been down. (23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ?? (23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal? (23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho (23:42:16) xsaiddx: why? (23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a look at it and see if it is what you are seeing http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html (23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread (23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks (23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this commande but idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys XXkeyIDX (23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read (23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ? (23:51:43) ***phillw back (23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb (23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing? (23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess (23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4 (23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal (23:53:41) phillw: okies, (23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-) (23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz (23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you (23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok (23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.* (23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4 (23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers (23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered the room.* (23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ?? (23:56:46) xsaiddx: phillw: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ?? (23:57:00) phillw: xsaiddx: can you post up your full version of (23:57:02) phillw: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF (23:57:48) phillw: the whole line is what i need from you. (23:58:19) xsaiddx: ok ill past to you the hole mesage but its french and we ll tanslate (23:58:53) xsaiddx: phillw: W: Erreur GPG?: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu ?tre v?rifi?es car la cl? publique n'est pas disponible?: NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4 (23:59:37) xsaiddx: these signaturs coudnl be veified cus the public key its not available (23:59:38) phillw: the command should work (23:59:47) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4 (23:59:53) xsaiddx: k (24/06/10 00:00:01) *sixpack75 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264 seconds).* (00:00:13) phillw: you are requesting a key from the key server. (00:01:14) xsaiddx: well now i have to add a epotsity of lubuntu right then update ? (00:01:45) phillw: how did you install lubuntu? (00:02:22) *Al2 [...@164.108.231.222.megaegg.ne.jp] entered the room.* (00:02:22) xsaiddx: i was on ubuntu then installed the meta package lubuntu-desktop (00:04:00) phillw: ahh,. you need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors (00:04:16) phillw: you would have gotten out
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] key error
Sure, they are mirrored from the other servers. There are LOADS of key servers, just that everyone seems hell bent to using one then wondering why they get timeouts. I think its comical. The keys are added so that you know the packages are from the maintainers repo. They are used to decrypt the data (as far as I am aware), so a key is a key, as long as the data is decrypted it is ok.. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: I am happy to do so, but is it a _safe_ place to get the keys from? I'd hate to send someone there and them have a problem, I'm sure you know what I mean in that regard as keys are important. Regards, Phill. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yeah that server gets swamped due to every man and his dog using it. If you use a different one then you will more than likely get a response. Go underground baby, YEAH! On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Thanks Andrew, that worked :-) Regards, Phill. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver p http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/gp.mit.edu --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4 Should be ok On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi gang, I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I include it at the bottom. Any ideas? (23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys (23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).* (23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin those updates of ubuntu (23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link (23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D (23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date (23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic it gives me some errors (23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the room.* (23:31:54) phillw: what errors? (23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list of ubuntu (23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on (23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).* (23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable (23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable (23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let me know what it says (23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa (23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo ubuntu ?? (23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ? (23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host (23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be checked, that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error before when one of the servers for updates has been down. (23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ?? (23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal? (23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho (23:42:16) xsaiddx: why? (23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a look at it and see if it is what you are seeing http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html (23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread (23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks (23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this commande but idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys XXkeyIDX (23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read (23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ? (23:51:43) ***phillw back (23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb (23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing? (23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess (23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4 (23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal (23:53:41) phillw: okies, (23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-) (23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz (23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you (23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok (23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.* (23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4 (23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers (23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered the room.* (23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ?? (23:56:46) xsaiddx: phillw: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ?? (23:57:00) phillw: xsaiddx: can you post up your full version of (23:57:02) phillw: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF (23:57:48) phillw: the whole line is what i need from you. (23:58:19) xsaiddx: ok
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 1 PAE Kernel
You only need PAE on 3Gb+ RAM as stated. 32bit address registers can only hit ~3gb RAM so need special software to manage the memory addressing. This is what PAE does and allows up to 12Gb RAM for 32bit Linux. If you only have 1Gb RAM then weather or not the kernel has PAE or not will not affect you :) The minimal ISO will install the generic kernel only. I have not played with the latest maverick Lubuntu yet so cannot vouch for if it uses PAE or not. HTH -Andy On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: hi Steve, as of 10.04 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) Both the CD and DVD installer of Ubuntu 10.04 automatically installs the PAE enabled kernel if it detects more than 3 Gb of available memory. In the case of the liveCD, a working network connection is required, since the PAE enabled kernel packages are not present on the CD. I've just asked on #ubuntu+1 (22:50:28) phillw: hi folks, with 10.10 is the pae kernel for 32 bit going to be the default? (23:00:33) xx: phillw: It is already. (23:01:25) xx: phillw: provided you have 3GB+ of available memory, and a internet connection to download it automatically. I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I will test this out on my 1Gb laptop, hopefully others will be able to respond before I get it installed. Oh, and from having had a hunt around, it also seems that dropping i586 support is causing some ripples https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/587186 Regards, Phill. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: Got 10.10 installed and running and noticed that the 32 PAE kernel is installed as default. Is this an Ubuntu thing or waht? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Java/IcedTea not working in Chromium
try: cd /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so Should be ok. Personally I use the .bin file from www.java.com as all the systems I'd need java on are 64bit. I then symlink the libnpjp2.so to the plugins folder and it works. Java and flash n Ubuntu all run at 32bit via a 64bit wrapper which I think is horribly convoluted and ungraceful despite there being 64bit native plugins available. HTH On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Carsten Agger ag...@modspil.dk wrote: I'm using Lubuntu 10.04 on my netbook, an Acer Aspire 110 with 512 megs of RAM, and it's generally a pleasure. I have one problem, though - the Java plugin seems not to be working in Chromium. I want to play Runescape, the MMORPG at www.runescape.com. What I'm getting is basically a blank (rather, black, the HTML background) page where the Java applet should be. I installed Java and the plugin by installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras package which pulled the openjdk and icedtea versions of Java and plugin. This works FINE in Firefox on Ubuntu 10.04 on my other computer. Anybody knows what's wrong or how to put it right? :-) Is there a problem with Java and Chromium? Maybe not, though - epiphany seems to give the same result (I won't install Firefox). br Carsten ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Java/IcedTea not working in Chromium
Not sure, I dont install flash or java using the repos nowadays. Let us know how you get on On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carsten Agger ag...@c.dk wrote: søn, 06 06 2010 kl. 11:56 +0100, skrev Steve: Maybe install another JVM? But this is supposed to work fine, I should think? It should work fine but, I’ve never got it to work. I always install sun-java6-plugin Thanks, will try that. As I said, the funny thing is that this works fine in Ubuntu Desktop 10.04, with Firefox. This might mean it's due to some bug/missing dependency in Lubuntu packaging? And, maybe it would be nice with a lubuntu-restricted-extras package with things that work (like Sun Java instead of Iced Tea) and possibly more lightweight selections in some cases? (I know, wishing out loud instead of doing something about it myself. Alas, I like using Lubuntu but don't have time to contribute to development at this time.) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC and Help
I'm in #ubuntu quite a lot (remember to say yo yo yo to your friendly parsnip :D) and I do enforce the rules but am not an op. If people tell others to obey the rules / use !ops if they are not compliant then it helps keep things smoother. On Friday, June 4, 2010, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: On 06/04/2010 09:19 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote: Hi, I've just had a chat with one of those 'very nice people' over on ubuntu about something I saw happen on #ubuntu-beginners the other day, that being a an idiot in the room breaking all the rules for politeness on IRC and also using swear words. On that occasion there were 'OP's in the room and also available who kicked him off (He actually got K-lined from freenode for those who know the difference). Currently /msg chanserv access #lubuntu list will show you the access list. hyperair and elfgoh are both OPs there Whilst I hope that #lubuntu will not get that sort of abuse, could the team think along the lines of how #ubuntu-beginners runs and grant OP status to a few of those who are regulars so that they would be able to act if a 'saddo' / 'troll' etc comes by? Regards, Phill. Perhaps we can ask newcomers to read http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct and adhere to it. It would also be good if there is one or two moderators on this list who would remind anyone who breaks the rules and have the power to suspend him from the list, if necessary. The ubuntu-users mailing list tends to be abusive too and there are people who gives advice badly. There is certainly room for improvement and I hope this lubuntu list can remain civil, polite and helpful. The kubuntu-users list is quite friendly, helpful and cheerful. Sometimes there are 'stragglers' from the ubuntu list but when they misbehave, they are usually shooed away by the kubuntu users themselves. Of course the quality of any list depends ultimately on the users themselves but there must be a mechanism to prevent spam, flaming and trolling. This is usually not in the code of conduct, but since this is an international mailing list, I'd recommend that any signature of a political, religious or anti-religious sentiment be removed. Admittedly, it is not easy to handle the multi faceted mix of users. For example, some, when rebuked about their offensive or profane statements, may claim 'cultural licence' - I am from New York, people are not so thin-skinned - or a guy who starts his posts with a long winded capital-lettered tribute to god. I would not envy the moderator. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
The packages in the metapackage will be available in both 32bit and 64bit. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:37 AM, M. Daub m.d...@web.de wrote: Hi Andrew, hello *, I know, that the packge manager pull down the 64-bit version, if they exist. But I assume, that the package manager will get the 32-bit version if this is the only one of the package. So to be more precisely: 1.) Does all the maintainers of the various packages needed for lubuntu- desktop (lxde-..., pcmanfm, osmo, deadbeef, ...) provide 64-bit versions? 2.) If some components are only provided as 32-bit, are there any concerns about such a mixed-system? Best regards Marcus ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
As Jaeic says, removing metapackages is harmless, they are hollow and empty and o not remove the packages they install so are fine to remove, this is the same with any metapackage On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
Updates will be fine, the upgrade process expects (as far a I know) there to be a desktop metapackage to use as a reference so may be needed when maverick comes out. Otherwise its absolutely fine. i personally instal ubuntu-restricted extras then remove it as well as the stupid flash plugin it gives to then install 64bit flash. If i keep the package installed it will repull in 32bit flash and all the other garbage I do not want. I's a touch of control :) Peace -Andy On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, can you confirm that doing so will not, as has been reported as a bug cause any issues with updates / upgrading? Thabks, Phill. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: As Jaeic says, removing metapackages is harmless, they are hollow and empty and o not remove the packages they install so are fine to remove, this is the same with any metapackage On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] great lubuntu with problem
Try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 Works perfectly for my onoard nvidia 6150 so will work with your 9800GT -Andy 2010/5/28 Radovan Suchánek radovansucha...@atlas.sk Hello, Long time I use xubuntu and ubuntu linux, some time ago I tried the new lubuntu to me very much nice, because it is very simple, clear and very quickly. I am very happy that lubuntu has few programs which gives the freedom to choose the programs to the user need. Please Stay on this road. My problem is to install the nvidia graphics card 9800gt. Standard procedure through the automatic installation of nvidia drivers and does not work after installing glx, kernel packages and restart the system will not working with 3D support. Please how to solve this problem? how do I install the nvidia drivers to be fully operational 3D in lubuntu when a hw work automatic HW detection do not working? Thank you very much for help! :) Radovan Suchánek ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] questions about lubuntu-10.04.iso
I'm kinda up for a Run the whole OS in RAM. like puppy has if its THAT small. Who's with me. There is a guide on this which I intend to use in my next system / this laptop if I get bored. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am 24.05.2010 07:06, schrieb rya...@mail.com: How much GB of disk space(including swap) does a full install of lubuntu-10.04 use if installing from the lubuntu-10.04.iso CD? 2GB? 3GB? Does lubuntu-10.04 include the HPLIP driver for HP printers? If so, what version of HPLIP is it? HPLIP 3.10.5? Thanks ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp If you have more then 1 GB RAM you don't neccessarly need a SWAP partition. If you don't consider double the RAM size to use for SWAP. Lubuntu uses about 1.5 GB of space right after installation. So the minimum space you need is 2 GB I would say. I recommened 4 to 5 GB to have it running good and be able to install additional software + personal data. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] questions about lubuntu-10.04.iso
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/hplip http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/hplipStates 3.10.2-2ubuntu2 but it's easy enough to use the binary from the HPLIP site. If you have more than 2Gb RAM You can easily get away with no swap due to the size of Lubuntu but I have yet to install it myself due to other projects taking my time :( I'm sure somebody who has installed it can give their df -h output Cheers -Andy On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 6:06 AM, rya...@mail.com wrote: How much GB of disk space(including swap) does a full install of lubuntu-10.04 use if installing from the lubuntu-10.04.iso CD? 2GB? 3GB? Does lubuntu-10.04 include the HPLIP driver for HP printers? If so, what version of HPLIP is it? HPLIP 3.10.5? Thanks ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: If I were to use the Ubuntu 64-bit Alternate CD, do just a command line install, and then pull in the lubuntu-desktop package, would I have a workable 64-bit Lubuntu? It will be a few days before my AMD system is up and running again, so I can't test this at the moment. A related question would be if there is an official 64-bit version planned? All other *buntu versions have both 32- and 64-bit options, so I would guess that would be an expectation of Canonical's for inclusion? Thanks, and regards, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Well if you want it now then the minimal ubuntu install is the way to go to get 64bit Lubuntu. Depends if you can wait or not :) On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. Thanks. Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba and windows
You can also create a credentials file in this format: username=yourusername password=youpass Then use this in samba: //server/share /media/samba cifs credentials=/path/to/file,uid=1000,gid=100,noperm 0 0 Having a username/password setup on samba is a very good idea as it keeps users out but also authenticates you as a user on the remote system, you can use samba to only give access to certain resources to certain usernames thus making it more secure. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: hi, I was just chatting to a couple of those 'nice people' about pysdm, it's limitations and if a user of it could get support on the main forum area (which is yes) and I mentioned about the on going saga with samba. Here's one to try in fstab # Samba //server/share /media/samba cifs user=user,uid=1000,gid=100,noperm 0 0 # Server = Samba server (by IP or name if you have an entry for the server in your hosts file # share = name of the shared directory # user = your samba user # This set up will ask for a password when mounting the samba share. If you do not want to enter a password, use a credentials file. # replace user=user with credentials=/etc/samba/credentials In the credentials file put two lines # user=user # password=password # make the file owned by root and ro by root (sudo chown root.root /etc/samba/credentials sudo chmod 400 /etc/samba/credentials) If you get chance, give it a try :-) For ntfs stuff, I've been reminded of ntfs-config for those with windows on their systems who want to share a hard drive easily (which some one pointed out earlier on the mailing list). Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Inclusion in 10.10 [Disk Mounting]
If you install a full ubuntu then install LXDE then automount is ok. Just my 2p worth On Tuesday, May 18, 2010, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: PCManFM2 actually can do automount on startup, unless your policykit is not working correctly, which happens frequently. However, which device to mount is a big problem since the rules are defined by gvfs and it doesn't seem to be configurable. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, It has been asked on IRC if it is possible to automount devices on startup. I could only advise manually editing the fstab. Having had a further dig, pysadm does not bring any dependencies onto my system (I'm guessing they're already there because of Pyneighborhood). As it is only going to use up a little disk space and I would not think more resources to run than something like Pyneighborood do you think it is an included candidate, or should it be just noted that a user requiring such functionality can install it via Synaptics. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Inclusion in 10.10 [Disk Mounting]
I appreciate that, I'm just showing that automount is possible with Lubuntu, just need the right packages and whatnot Peace -Andy On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi Andrew, When you install a desktop on top of another desktop (lxde on top of gnome in this case) you get all the applications associated with both Desktops. Where you to strip out the gnome desktop fully, then pysadm would go with it (along with things like OpenOffice etc. etc.). Regards, Phill. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: If you install a full ubuntu then install LXDE then automount is ok. Just my 2p worth On Tuesday, May 18, 2010, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: PCManFM2 actually can do automount on startup, unless your policykit is not working correctly, which happens frequently. However, which device to mount is a big problem since the rules are defined by gvfs and it doesn't seem to be configurable. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, It has been asked on IRC if it is possible to automount devices on startup. I could only advise manually editing the fstab. Having had a further dig, pysadm does not bring any dependencies onto my system (I'm guessing they're already there because of Pyneighborhood). As it is only going to use up a little disk space and I would not think more resources to run than something like Pyneighborood do you think it is an included candidate, or should it be just noted that a user requiring such functionality can install it via Synaptics. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
If yuo want to test deadbeef: *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:alexey-smirnov/deadbeef; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install deadbeef* On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:46 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we can take some time to do this and send the patch to its author. This should not be too hard. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: WOW! I'm impressed. this DeadBeef player looks like it's going to be my fav - it perfectly the thing I was looking for! BUT! there is one problem for me. guess it won't be for any new users, by I have a lot of playlists in .m3u format, as well as a lot of people may have some in .pls and other such popular ones. and this player supports only it's own playlist format... pity. if the palylist importing (converting?) would be added, then it is a perfect player for me! :) 2010/5/15 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com: I encourage every Lubuntu and LXDE users to try DeadBeef, an almost perfect lightweight yet feature-rich music player. The author provided deb packages already. The latest release is quite awesome. http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ The UI is very similar to that of LXMusic, but it's much more functional. Please try it and share your opinions. This is my favorite so far. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: hi in my personal opinion exaile is worthless. I had only problems with it, user-unfriendly interface, trying to be amarok-like libary with addition of player. both aqualung and rythmbox are much better choice. rhythmbox has bizzare interface that you have to learn how to use, but it is possible to do that (unlike with exaile, wich seems very similar to players like amarok so ypu think theres nothing to learn, but then it suprises you with its options and features hidden so much that you can't configure it at all and in the end it unusable and impossible to learn it without help on forums! and we want lubuntu to be easy for everyone, right?), and aqualung is pure spartan simplicity, yet powerfullness, like foobar on windows, with wich you have to really try to mess something up to have it not working. so I'd stick to aqualung. cheers 2010/5/15 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am sending this mail because of the advise Julien Lavergne gave me in our big ¨Lubuntu application discussion for maverick¨ discussion. :P This mail is about discussing Aqualung replacing with Exaile. Exaile is a bit like a lightweight rhythmbox, it loads quickly and supports a lot of music files. Through Synaptic you can even install a plugin for Ipod support, and you can also install a plugin for pidgin so pidgin can display the music song you are listening with Exaile. Exaile uses about 18,8 mb of memory on idle, and Aqualung uses 9.9 mb of memory on idle (LXmusic 2.7 mb :P ) Exaile has many advantages, it is not gray and not odd looking like Aqualung (which looks weird in every Desktop Enviroment) less dependencies, more support because of a bigger project. (e.g Exaile has a good launchpad page with bug reporting and translating all open to everyone, Aqualung hasn´t got a launchpad page.) Is the 9 mb difference in memory consumption acceptable in Lubuntu? Or a slightly different question, is it worth the sacrifice? (Atleast I think it definetly is, but what about you guys?) - -Glenn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL7tvVAAoJEFx07M0xzp8wFp8IAKKepWXHIgZUzbXY5Cb3ayHe Hqgu20v35eLRPBJayHGZGeaIlGuD2zVVmhHG/m/G7OitXuaDs8x+tsH0E3L91Dq1 OV42f+60PqqR6RyvE4g63n75+8j25ML7D9pnbT2Pt/d2E2Cs8q8+XSCWk9wipcRW ZF+EuCFmZJFzra6eqAg//V4XKRXlFaj3KgEhnlj3Eas6D+AoRzlQ+ZG+DztSSTJ0 M0O5jswCQO2P4oszaeIxCbCgaSF1w2OIjDIGEh3MUrr9gxoUMfTwelpKaSFobtze 60jFeSUsP2APayCG9LrUDH2dv8W6r0zcYQb4OFMciAYSJUu9Y2g3Ftu+U7EXwcE= =CHi8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to :
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu application discussion for maverick
I always use gnome-mplayer mplayer is one of the oldest and most respected players out there -Andy 2010/5/13 神癒礁湖 ・ rafaellag...@gmail.com Well, LXMusic isi a good program, but remeber that it depends on libpango libraries and xmms2. Have anyone tested listening music music with Gnome-MPlayer? It's perfect (reproduction lists, cover thumbnail, etc). http://www.rafaellaguna.com/ http://www.lubuntu.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp a3.pnga1.pnga2.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A Newbie Question about Autostarting
Make a symlink to the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/name.desktop in ~/.config/autostart and it will run. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote: I'm a long-time user of Ubuntu. Lately I've been using Openbox for my WM, so I decided to try Lubuntu and get rid of some unused overhead. I'm also a fan of Conky, and I quickly learned that it didn't get along with pcmanfm. So I've commented it out and am using feh to manage my wallpapers. I like it for its ability to rotate wallpapers on a schedule. After some initial dismay I was pleased to find the option in Preferences to enable window manager desktop menus. A message on here today led me to the Ubuntu wiki page of derivatives, and I was surprised Lubuntu wasn't there. One confusing thing is the number of autostart folders and files. I managed to edit enough of them to get most things the way I want, but I still can't get alarmclock to start even though it runs fine from the menu. Is there an official Lubuntu way to autostart programs? Lane *Lane Lester* The Web Doctor http://www.the-web-doctor.com You can have your own website for just $10+10+10! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Desktop icons
Open PCManFM and go to Edit Preferences Desktop. There is an option Manage the desktop and show icon files. Turning this off removes all icons from the desktop. You have to have it, or no icons at all. Your choice. -Andy On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ted To foru...@theo.to wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to make lubuntu stop displaying my root directory on the desktop? Thanks, Ted ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu compressed ISO file?
ZIP doesn't do a fabulous job of compression, Bzip will get the data significantly smaller. Hosting both files will require more storage on the server side and essentially double the space needed to store the same info. If space is a luxury then I'd say do it, otherwise you may have to bite the bullet for an extra 12Mb. Set the download running overnight and go to bed, the file will be downloaded when you wake up :) On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM, ryan14 rya...@mail.com wrote: Currently lubuntu 10.04 is available as an ISO file from http://lubuntu.net. I have a slow broadband connection so would it be possible for you to offer a compressed version of the ISO in the .ZIP file format? The ISO file is 521MB, so if you compressed it into a .ZIP file, what will the new file size be? 500MB? Any decrease in file size is good. -- This message was sent from Launchpad by the user ryan14 (https://launchpad.net/~ryan14) using the Contact this team link on the Lubuntu team page. For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu compressed ISO file?
Yes as you will only download what you need instead of the full OS which may contain files and apps you do not need On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:35 PM, T.Beemster c...@tbeemster.nl wrote: On 05/11/2010 04:18 PM, Phillip Whiteside wrote: i was thinking possibly down-loading the minmal.iso, and then doing the desktop install form that. It *should* be smaller in terms of data downloaded ? Regards, Phill On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 14:00:43 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: I don't think the minimal install route pulls in all the language packs, could this be an option? It's included in the iso, if you want to remove them, you need to generate another iso. Maybe at some point a minimal iso will be generated, for this purpose, but I don't know when I'll have the time to do it. Best regards, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Yes that's true, the mini.iso is 12.5 mb, and you'll have to install another ~350mb afterwords I think. So that saves quite a lot! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Very nice looking
I agree but most users will want the full flash / java experience. The open source versions do not have the full capabilities of the proprietary versions but some form of option could be incorporated into starting the live cd etc etc to achieve the below without infringement of license etc. Glad you like the release though dude :) I think it's awesome and long overdue. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Marti Martinson arthur.martin...@verizon.net wrote: Very nice looking distro! I was so very worried that NO *buntu 10.4 would be able to load on my Ubuntu 9.10. EVERY Alpha, Beta, and RC LiveCD of 10.4 Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu FAILED to boot. Your Stable Beta finally would boot up. (Bug #545367) Are there any plans to include, by default, the gnash or swf-dec players, or the OpenJDK or iced-tea (I think that is their name), plugins? I don't think there would be any license issues, as these are OSS. And a user could have a YouTube and java experience right out-of-the-box. I'd like to finally force my Mom to get onto the Net, and a LiveCD box with NO hard-drive might be good. Thank you for all your work. Much success to Lubuntu! Viel Glueck. Bonne chance. Marti ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] BUGS: VISUDO PERMISSION NOT WORKING
Thats a really bad idea and destroys system security completely. I strongly advise nobody to do this, its a REALLY bad idea. On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 25,April,2010 10:18 PM, Pierre Yahoo wrote: Visudo permissions do not work. I tried to give myself permissions for password-free actions typing sudo visudo in a terminal (e.g. to hibernate using a shortcut (launcher) myusername ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/pm-hibernate or myusername ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/srm to make a secure-delete trashcan). It does not work, the same command and launcher worked in Debian and Puppy but not in Lubuntu. It works, however, if I already signed in with password in a terminal or Synaptic. Works just fine for me in Ubuntu. I don't see why it wouldn't work for you. If it needs you to sign in with a password first, it means that the NOPASSWD part isn't working. Try sudo -k in a terminal followed by sudo /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate in a terminal and see whether it prompts you for your password. -- Kind regards, Chow Loong Jin ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu documentation
Yes: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude safe-upgrade is an appropriate way to upgrade your system at CLI the command: gksudo leafpad is the way to run leafpad as root, do NOT use sudo with GUI apps as you can damage file ownerships as sudo does not setup the environment correctly. Otherwise Lubuntu is no different to Ubuntu, it just has a different set of default apps and a different default desktop (LXDE instead of Gnome) so any guide you can find on Ubuntu will work. This is the same for KUbuntu which uses KDE instead of Gnome and XUbuntu which uses XFCE instead of Gnome. They are all Ubuntu under the hood. Unlike Windows you can change your desktop environment very easily in Linux and that is all that has changed to the system, what is under the hood is exactly the same as all the other official releases. HTH On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: In trying to learn more about Lubuntu, especially the commands and applications for it, I find the sources pretty sparse. For example, I am still using 'sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude safe-upgrade' to update Lubuntu and wondering if that is correct. Also while the command 'gksudo leafpad' is given here on the list (thanks), it is difficult to find out other useful commands. The links given on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu page and other LXDE sites are not too informative either. Of course being a new 'distro', I could understand, but can someone provide more links so that a newbie like me can pick up some speed? Thanks and regards - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] memory leak
Firefox is notoriously bad with ram. It's one reason I dropped it long ago when chromium came out, prior to that i mainly used arora. 2010/4/16 ¤•thony•¤ Rulez kernell...@hotmail.com I have the same problem installing firefox and check the memory usage, use firefox instead of chromium -- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:41:37 +0100 From: phi...@phillw.net To: yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] memory leak Hi Steve top - 16:08:54 up 35 min, 1 user, load average: 1.07, 0.71, 0.45 Tasks: 114 total, 1 running, 113 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 9.3%us, 2.0%sy, 0.3%ni, 87.4%id, 0.7%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1016908k total, 559736k used, 457172k free,19948k buffers top - 20:40:50 up 5:07, 1 user, load average: 0.38, 0.52, 0.60 Tasks: 118 total, 1 running, 117 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.3%us, 0.7%sy, 0.3%ni, 98.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1016908k total, 845600k used, 171308k free,47212k buffers I'm running Chromium and pidgin only, on a 'clean' Beta2 install (I have LAMP on my other one and wanted to remove that from the possible cause). I'm rather stuck :-( Regards, Phill. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:22:42 +0100, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: hi Steve, you will have read 'war and peace' which is why I missed you on IRC. Addons... Hmmm, 1) Full LAMP Server aka 'main' Ubuntu - Updated as per updates by them; be very surprised if it were that, else all hell would break out but I'm sure the leak was here before that. 2) Chromium daily ppa - There WAS a memory leak but it was fixed ages ago - that's why I changed to daily ppa a few weeks back. 3) All the stuff that pcman had me install to be able to compile pcmanfm from source with debug on I use pidjin for my Im/IRC stuff, bog-standard no additional stuff on that one as they can cause problems. I found xChat to be very memory hungry, and need IM as well as IRC If you know of no-one seeing it, I'll put the beta2 onto a 'clean' partition see how it runs, the leak has always been very evident within a few hours. No sign of a memory leak here at the moment on beta 2.. -- Steve (Yorvyk) http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- ¿Quieres navegar seguro? Hazlo con Internet Explorer 8http://www.microsoft.com/spain/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing report - network manager
If you then run: sudo iwlist scan Do you see the network? You may have to connect to it after you make it. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Roger Dean rogeralexanderd...@gmail.comwrote: Hi there Congrats and thanks for all the hard work with Lubuntu! I've noticed that lubuntu B2 (updated) doesn't seem able to 'create new wireless network'. Steps to reproduce - 1. Click network icon in notification area, and select 'create new wireless network' 2. Select wireless security 'none', give the network a name and click 'create' 3. Network manager tries and fails to create the network. Notifies 'disconnected' This is reproducible every time, and I've tried it on a thinkpad x60s and an eee 901. Network creation works fine on ubuntu lucid B2. I've not tried the other security options, but I think there's something to look at here anyway Cheers Roger -- t. +46 (0) 761488167 (Sweden) t. +44 (0) 7812373629 (UK) e. rogeralexanderd...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] adding the ppa updating
why not use command line, so much easier than messing with stupid slow GUIs: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade or whatever. Simple to describe in qan email rather than click this click that type this etc On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@uk.vpolink.comwrote: Hi, Until 'Update Mananger', or the Lubuntu replacement are ready, would be okay to add the instructions from post the instructions on Updating Lubuntu I was given from http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=54 to the wiki page as part of the 'Download Lubuntu' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Download Lubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Download+Lubuntu (I will just post the instructions, not my comments on the team ;-) ) Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] about lubuntu...
Wicd also doesnt support 3g which users may need (as far as i remember) I prefer wicd personally, it is DE independant which is swt On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:04 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong list. Please join lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net and ask there. Besides, network manager has better compatibility with many kinds of hardware. Wicd works well, but it doesn't always work on some machines. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Alfonso Quiroga alfonsose...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Is this the correct list to ask about lubuntu? My question is that I installed lubuntu-desktop on a 9.10 ubuntu, really fast, really nice. :-) The point is wicd.. I didn't know about it, and it comes with lubuntu-desktop. Is really usefull and I like it, and I use only wired connection (people say it's amazing in wireless) My question is I heard that lubuntu 10.04 is going to change wicd for network manager (default gnome connection manager). Why this change? :( thanks -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Lxde-list mailing list lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba
Why not just use /etc/samba/smb.conf ? simply add this sort of thing to share a folder: [DOWNLOADS] path = /home/andy comment = Some stuff browsable = yes read only = no writable = yes hide dot files = yes guest ok = no invalid users = root bin daemon nobody named sys tty disk mem valid users = andy as an example from my file server sharing my universal home folder, people get so tied up on gui tools when the conf file can be easily learned, especially as the file is so humanly readable. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@uk.vpolink.comwrote: Thanks, I've only ever had MacOSX and Win connected via Samba, and I'm using a set of instructions for pyneighborhood that are for a an earlier release. As pcmanfm uses gvfs for the smb part, and there appears to be an elephant in the room re: the core 10.04 and samba I'd hate to start pointing fingers. I don't have enough knowledge of samba to state yes / no as to if the bug others are seeing on 'main' 10.04 carries over to lubuntu, but I figure it would. I also cannot state if pyneighborhood uses the gvfs interface, but it would make sense if it did. Hopefully one of the lubuntu devs could tell us if the reported gremlin in the 10.04 area would affect lubuntu. My own thought is to hold back until they have it fixed in 10.04 main, but I am completely open to being corrected and being informed that the samba issue with gvfsd-smb-browse does NOT have any effect on lubuntu. Assuming we wait until it is fixed for ubuntu 10.04, I'll then set up a share with that, so I know it all works - Then I'll try with Lubuntu. I'm open to any comments / suggestions, though :-) Regards, Phill. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Phix phix@gmail.com wrote: I can help with testing if you'd like. Pyneighborhood was something I tried in karmic lubuntu before installing alpha 3, and it didn't work very well there either, but that might have been from the bug in samba main. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@uk.vpolink.comwrote: Hi, I don't know how others are getting on with pyneighborhood, I've been struggling, it seems that I am not alone with samba. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426517 There appears to be gremlin in the works :-( Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Scanning and printing graphics, how?
install xsane from the repo and you will get it, you may have to setup drivers etc, similarly you can install gwenview or eog and view / print images. gwenview is the choice in fluxbuntu. HTH On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Unless I’m missing something there appears to be no scanning package installed as standard and no easy way of printing photos. -- Steve (Yorvyk) http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] restricted-extras
As Lubuntu uses gstreamer like Ubuntu just use ubuntu-resricted-extras. kde uses something different so has its own thing, i believe xubuntu-restricted extras is the same as ubuntu-restricted-extras. Just need to copy the package and rename t on the repo afaics ;) Just my 2p worth -Andy On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: M. Daub schrieb: Hello *, for the other ubuntu's there are restricted-extras-packages. Which is most suitable for lubuntu or will be there also a lubuntu-restricted- extras-package in the future? Kind regards Marcus ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp There is currently no restriction package. You need to install w32codecs(medibuntu) and libxine1-all-plugins manually for codec support. Flashplayer should be in flashplugin-nonfree or flashplugin-installer. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Nice comment. Let's make sure that we don't make the same mistakes.
Its only looks though. Like gaps in icons. I'd rather the devs concentrate on getting things working than minor graphical issues like this. I actually commented on the post to this effect. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@uk.vpolink.comwrote: Indeed, PCMan, if you get a chance, take a look at what the response on Lucid Test Forum is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1427273 Regards, Phill. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:13 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: I personally agreed with most of the things in this article. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/16-things-that-could-be-improved-in.html ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new logo
I liked both so did not vote. 2010/3/8 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com Maybe we can hold a vote on http://forum.lxde.org/ :-) 2010/3/8 神癒礁湖 rafaellag...@gmail.com I know we're freezed, so we don't need to change anything except the logos. PS. At the end of the day, both proposals are tied again. Curious, this flows and turns back dozens of times... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp firma_japo.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Post A3 Test: Encrypted home folder
No because it causes more bother than its worth. Too many users getting nonbootable systems then losing data as they can't/won't decrypt their drives. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Hi, did anyone test the Alpha 3 with encrypted home folder ? On my virtual installation it isn't decrypting my home folder. I need to do this manually on a tty. I think it might be a bug in lxdm. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit
You can install the 64bit minimal system or u-lite then install the lubuntu-desktop metapackage. It will then be 64bit On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 02 mars 2010 à 08:22 +0100, M. Daub a écrit : I don't know anything about packaging, so please could anyone say something about the possibility of making a 64-bit-edition too? There will be no 64 bits until the ISO is generated by the Ubuntu architecture. I may generate a 64 bits ISO for the final release, but I don't think before this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] colours
How about a few screenshots in a few different colours to see what the consensus is? 2010/2/18 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com hm, ok, purple is a trendcolour. thats right, its in (even if some magazines say that grey is the new purple), but it will become out again. maybe one year, maybe three, but same as neon-colours: totally cool now (and in the 80ies), but forgotten and ugly in some years. Our logo (and thats were i want the colourchange, even if the ubuntu logo is yellow and orange and brown, many parts of the standard theme are grey) should have a colour thats always ok, like a evergreen . purple has nothing to do with the philosophy of lxde or lubuntu. green has. i changed your screenshot to green (just for comparison) and made some on my own. i made the files brown, a purple/blue/green wallpaper and logo doesn't meen that every little symbol has to have that colour. best regards, jo. 2010/2/18 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com I didn't say it's pink. but it's more of a tone of pinkish varieties of violet ;) and I just know how many people would react depite it looks good 2010/2/18 Jonay Santana jonay.sant...@gmail.com Looks nice to me. And I wouldn't call it pink, it looks more like purple... ;) On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is going in a good direction - a minimal gamma correction to make it look less pink (especially the lighter part of wallparer), maybe base it on #4B0082 indigo? and I think we have an original, good look. I think it's nice even now, but many people would call it 'gay' (I didn't want to use that word, but don't know how to say that nicely, I hope you guys understand), that why I propose less pinkish hue. 2010/2/18 神癒礁湖 rafaellag...@gmail.com Wow, I see an explossion about colour issue. Please, check the theme wiki and see the options. I've made a few wallpapers for matching the blue colours. And I must be clear, I've received from Canonical the colour specifications about usage, logos, trademarks and Pantone(tm) references. That's why Xubuntu and Kubuntu (and official derivatives, as we want to be) are blue. Anyway, look at this shot: Is the purple / pink background with dark panel. As you can see there're a lot of combinations, but remaining theme specs. I'll made a poll to request your preferences about GUI details. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Jonay ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser
What about Kazehakase which is a stripped down Firefox. Firefox is a crappy browser once you try other stuff. The only thing I have seen people sa yits great about is plugins which other browsers are now ok with. You failed to mention Arora which is webkit based and fully supports scipts and ajax. I strongly advise you try it. -Andy On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:18:06 -, Julián Alarcón alarc...@gmail.com wrote: Some notes: Lubuntu is Ubuntu and free software, so, is not JUST for linux geeks, is for all human beings. Lubuntu will be a light OS, so, no big resources. The main goal of Lubuntu is to bring Ubuntu to old PCs (here on Colombia many people (rural zones) use Pentium II + 256 of RAM + 10 GB DD + 1024x768 max. resolution), and, if we can give a complete experience to old computers, we'll score!! * Browse trough a Terminal? Lynx is completely out. * Chrome is NOT free software [1] * Chromium really is free software, but, Chromium is NOT a final browser,just a development branch, so.. Support for Chromium is unknown, but, Chromium is now on Lucid, so, maybe this won't be a problem. * Firefox is great, and Firefox 3.6 rulez! But, is not fast. * Midori is great, but have some render and identification problems, and less features. * Opera is NOT free software, one less... So, we have: Firefox, Chromium, and Midori. * The big faults of Chomium are, no official support (so Midori) from Canonical and from Google (Chromium is just a name project for Google) AND a big amount of memory use (I'm testing Chromium and with 7 tabs I got 815 MB used!!! (No flash guys)). Don't think so much on HTML5 (video), my PC waste more CPU watching OGG (on Firefox) and h264 (on Chromium) than Flash on both (this is sad but true, there are not good video libraries yet) * Midori is a great tool, not official support from Canonical, but, Midori developers are supporting Midori, and this is good. And, Midori has been on Ubuntu repos since Hardy, so, we got some experience.. * Firefox is great, but, it's not so fast, and we need something fast (remember, old PC's). Firefox have extensions, browser market, support from many sites, official support from Canonical and Mozilla,low memory use. So, my favorites: * Midori + Extension to bring false identification of Firefox or Safari (I like more Firefox ID) to surpass identification problems * Firefox, keep it simple. Firefox is now a great web browser, and has many many people behind. Having now used Lubuntu on a PII with 128MB RAM, I have to say I tend to agree with the above. Once you open 2 or 3 pages with either Chromium or FF the machine can be come quite unresponsive as the poor drive gets thrashed with things swapping in an out. Going to try Midori again latter. Note: Don't think on LTS status, I guest that Lubuntu won't be an LTS release (just like Kubuntu 8.04). I think that was me that throw that one in. I just remember the confusion with the two KDE 8.04 releases [1] http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] RAM and CPU Requierments
FeatherLinux, DSL, Puppy all work great on old rigs On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 00:38 -0500, Josh Embrey wrote: Although others have suggested other things, there are specific linux distributions that can really work well with old (I mean REALLY old) systems. The issue is that they're really complicated for daily use. One good one. TinyCore linux would work amazingly well on it, but it's not for new users by any means. It does, however, have a basic GUI. So, the option is there. http://tinycorelinux.com On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Eduard Gotwig eduardgot...@gmail.com wrote: How many RAM and CPU does Lubuntu 10.4 will require? i have a 266 mhz pentium 2 processor,126 mb ram and 5 gb disk space and what linux kernel we would take? -- This message was sent from Launchpad by the user Eduard Gotwig (https://launchpad.net/~eduard-gotwig) using the Contact this team link on the Lubuntu team page. For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion
You'll find most users simply will not use anything else other than firefox (sad but true) So will more than likely install it anyway due to ignorance or some form of loyalty, despite its massive shortcomings (like ridiculous ram usage) I personally use Chromium and believe there is a time when we look back at firefox and say what were we thinking!!? -ActionParsnip (aka andy) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, mehageg meha...@nana.co.il wrote: I defectively agree, chrome is a good choice, in condition that it's operational by the time of 10.4 for the case it's not - I'd like to have your opinion regarding arora, I really find it mean and lean. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/15 mehageg meha...@nana.co.il as lubuntu is a fast-lightweight version of ubuntu, maybe it's time to consider using arora http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/arora instead of firefox as the main web-browser. from my personal experience, arora fits very well as my main browser, it supports the main state-of-the art technologies (javascript+ajax, flash, java applets etc), has the main features you find in firefox (ad-block, live-http, privacy mode, tabbed surfing, smart bar). in the bottom line, it's just as great as firefox, just much faster and slimmer. matches perfectly the lubuntu/lxde way, as I see it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Why not consider google-chrome? I know it's 'beta' status, but as I've been using it for a long time - since version in which plugins are defaultly on it's perfectly stable, and it's really lightweight and fast :) AND it's becoming quite popular, so I think it'd be better for lubuntu to have a popular browser that many people are familiar with, rather than having some exotic one that very little number of people use ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy Slow)
This is kinda surplus, the system is still ubuntu based so the standard repos can be used to install apps if they are needed. If the OS is going to be as it says below, you may as well install a minimal install then have a gui to select apps which can then be installed off the repos. This however isn't the case, we are trying to make a smalland efficient distro with a decent amount of functionality without bloating the system with the likes of evolution, openoffice and firefox. These are fully installable once the installation has completed but the initial base system should be slick and quick On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM, C David Rigby c.david.ri...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:40 +0100, Ed Hewitt and several others wrote: discussion of keep it light or feature complete elided Restating the obvious, but the engineering trade off is always between ease of use/fully featured on the one hand and lightweight on the other. The necessary criterion is to decide what we really want to build, and make it unique and useful enough to attract interest. I've proposed it before, but I'll say it again as more people are on the list now (sorry that I've missed the IRC meetings for the last two weeks where the app mix has been the topic of discussion). How about the possibility of a very slim base install with the installer offering bundles to meet individual needs and desires? Something like the FreeBSD or Debian text installers comes to mind. The base installation would be just a command-line, network-capable system plus enough of X to get LXDE operational. We would be pushing the real work to the installer. The installer, whether text-based or grahpical, would need to provide a lot of choices of bundles to install. More importantly, I think the installer should provide something I have yet to see. That something is extensive documentation of the choices of bundles of applications, and what they mean in terms of system performance vs features. It should be organized so that a savvy user could bypass the explanations (or load a jumpstart script), but a novice would get a detailed explanation of what the choices are and what they mean for the final installed system. My $0.02. Cheers C David Rigby ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
