Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 17.10 Desktop command

2018-01-14 Thread Rafael Laguna
"inxi -S" does it
or "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION"

More help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/125062/how-can-i-find-which-
desktop-enviroment-i-am-using


On lun, 2018-01-15 at 04:12 +0300, Dennis Castanos wrote:
> I’m using Lubuntu 17.10. Using the LXTerminal, what is the command to
> see which Desktop environment is installed.
> Dennis
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Re: [lubuntu-users] lubuntu social media page shut down because of legal threats from Rafael Laguna

2017-12-26 Thread Rafael Laguna
Now I ask you: who gave you permission to steal my images? Damn it, you
can even read my name in some screenshots you're using. You didn't even
bother to change or alter them a bit. You even took the buttons (that
look deformed in your site) and exactly the same text that I and the
Release Manager wrote.

And anyways, what's the point of having a "Lubuntu website" that
doesn't get updated regularly? Your solution was to copy the entire
content, knowing its graphic and text is protected under a copyright
licence? We have respect for the licences. What you did is a robbery of
Intellectual Property. Our site isn't  closed. It is hosted in Ubuntu /
Canonical servers, just to protect it and precisely to avoid someone to
take control it over the whole group.

How would you feel to know that someone is trying to steal your
identity and confusing our users? Please, stop doing this. Lubuntu is
for everybody, but if you want to create your own distro, fork it,
name it and create your own identity for it. We worked hard for the
end-users, for free, but not for someone to get advantage of it.

You perfectly knew how this works, you were warned several times.
Otherwise, if you continue, I can only consider your actions as a
deliberate attack to Lubuntu, the Ubuntu community and the users
themselves.

It is sad indeed.


On Tue, 2017-12-26 at 12:16 +0100, Mario Behling wrote:
> 
> Next: People and universities who want put u
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Grettings from Cuba

2017-09-16 Thread Rafael Laguna
I'm afraid not. Ubuntu general lists must be written in English. There
are several localised mailing lists in other languages though:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Localization+Lists

Cheers!


On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 15:21 -0400, Ludwig Causilla wrote:
> Hello to everybody on this mail list, greetings from Cuba.
> 
> Here is an Lubuntu 16.04.3 LTS user...
> 
> ¿Can someone tell me if i can use Spanish on the list?
> 
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Downloading Google Chrome

2017-06-22 Thread Rafael Laguna
Sometimes the Software Manager can't "ask" for installing additional
required packages. Try to open a terminal and use:

sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable.deb (use the proper name)

Then use this command:

sudo apt install -f

...to make the system to look for the missing packages.



On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 16:17 -0700, Muhammad Khan wrote:
> Hey. I am new to Linux and I just installed Lubuntu on one of my
> older desktops. I want to download Google Chrome but seem to have
> trouble doing it. Once I open the file, it takes me to the software
> installer were it just loads for a long time. Any help will be
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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Power Off" Panel item

2017-03-21 Thread Rafael Laguna
It's only a launcher, not a real applet. Here's how you can restore it:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/196619/how-to-add-shutdown-button-to-lxp
anel-and-make-it-work


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> On 19 March 2017 at 18:34, Heima  wrote:
> > but there is no standalone "Power Off" applet.
> 
> Huh. That's the first thing I remove on all my Lubuntu installs. It's
> so pointless -- it's there in the menus anyway, and by definition, I
> only use it once per session!
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Install Google Chrome on Lubuntu 16.04 ?

2016-12-04 Thread Rafael Laguna
You'll have to go to http://chrome.google.com and download the package.
Once accepting it, the installer will add the repository to your system so
it can update itself. Only Chromium is in the Lubuntu repos.

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 at 21:36 Eric Bradshaw <
ericbrads...@computers4christians.org> wrote:

> How do I install Google Chrome on Lubuntu 16.04 ? I not a geek so I might
> need a little detail instructions.
> Thanks, Dennis
>
> Dennis,
> How-to install Chrome (for the purposes of streaming video subscription
> services, but you'll get the idea) with pictures 'n everything:
> http://computers4christians.org/FAQ/OS/HowTo/Video/Subscriptions.html
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Linux spotted at a Cheese Shop in Belluno, Italy

2016-11-15 Thread Rafael Laguna
...nd this:

http://www.lffl.org/2016/11/emilia-romagna-e-brasile-dicono-addio-allopen-source.html


On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 at 20:26 Rafael Laguna  wrote:

> Yes. But I was wrong. Not the OS, but the Office suite used. Here're some
> links:
>
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/huge-savings-prompt-italian-city-to-dump-openoffice-for-microsoft-after-four-years/
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/another-italian-city-announces-its-ditching-microsoft-windows-for-open-source/
>
> http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/091715/italian-government-ditch-microsoft-open-source-libreoffic
>
> Which is stupid. The "real reasons" were "lack of support". But we all
> know you can buy support from Canonical or SuSE, and have access to
> professional cloud services oriented to huge enterprises. But... as you
> said, I guess this is something else. Like the strange contracts signed by
> the Spanish Government with Microsoft Iberica (Spanish part of Microsoft,
> obviously) for installing Windows on ALL ministries (you can see
> everywhere: hospitals / healthcare, social, taxes, etc).
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 at 15:20 Barry Titterton 
> wrote:
>
> On 15/11/16 06:55, Rafael Laguna wrote:
> > Beautiful.
> > Sadly Italy's government is coming back to Windows. Their OpenSource try
> > was unsuccessful.
> >
> > :(
> >
>
> Hi Rafael,
>
> Do you have a link to an english language review of the Italian
> government's experience with open source?
>
> Munich is in the news at the moment so it would be interesting to hear
> the experiences of another attempt at open source and why it failed. Was
> it political meddling (as is happening in Bavaria), or purely technical
> concerns, or a bit of both?
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Linux spotted at a Cheese Shop in Belluno, Italy

2016-11-15 Thread Rafael Laguna
Yes. But I was wrong. Not the OS, but the Office suite used. Here're some
links:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/huge-savings-prompt-italian-city-to-dump-openoffice-for-microsoft-after-four-years/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/another-italian-city-announces-its-ditching-microsoft-windows-for-open-source/
http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/091715/italian-government-ditch-microsoft-open-source-libreoffic

Which is stupid. The "real reasons" were "lack of support". But we all know
you can buy support from Canonical or SuSE, and have access to professional
cloud services oriented to huge enterprises. But... as you said, I guess
this is something else. Like the strange contracts signed by the Spanish
Government with Microsoft Iberica (Spanish part of Microsoft, obviously)
for installing Windows on ALL ministries (you can see everywhere: hospitals
/ healthcare, social, taxes, etc).

Your thoughts?

On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 at 15:20 Barry Titterton 
wrote:

> On 15/11/16 06:55, Rafael Laguna wrote:
> > Beautiful.
> > Sadly Italy's government is coming back to Windows. Their OpenSource try
> > was unsuccessful.
> >
> > :(
> >
>
> Hi Rafael,
>
> Do you have a link to an english language review of the Italian
> government's experience with open source?
>
> Munich is in the news at the moment so it would be interesting to hear
> the experiences of another attempt at open source and why it failed. Was
> it political meddling (as is happening in Bavaria), or purely technical
> concerns, or a bit of both?
>
> Cheers,
> Barry T
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Linux spotted at a Cheese Shop in Belluno, Italy

2016-11-14 Thread Rafael Laguna
Beautiful.
Sadly Italy's government is coming back to Windows. Their OpenSource try
was unsuccessful.

:(

On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 01:40 Walter Lapchynski,  wrote:

> Lubuntu Linux spotted at a Cheese Shop in Belluno, Italy
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Re: [lubuntu-users] help please.

2016-10-16 Thread Rafael Laguna
It's simply called "menu". I think it's the first one in the applet list:
https://goo.gl/WHkAwT

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:07 leon,  wrote:

> my cat deleted the bar at the bottom of my lubuntu. I got back the bar,
> and clock etc, but don't knoqw the name of that "start button" program menu
> launcher. any help would be great.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Does a default Lubuntu dark theme exist?

2016-08-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
Yes, Simon, the dark-ish theme is deprecated now for several reasons.
We tried shipping a dark panel theme with light windows and (inverted)
white icons. But there were some problems with it:

- the theme needed too many updates, and we don't have the resources
Ubuntu has for maintaining both themes

- after several GTK & app icons updates, some glyphs had to be
constantly re-written (specially the system tray ones) and we can't,
obviously, cover the entire app ecosystem (every theme out there lacks
some app icons)

- LXDE is constantly changing and evolving and that's a problem for us,
the artwork people. See, for example, the language applet. At first we
used a single applet icon for it, then the flags appeared and we needed
to make 164 new glyphs for every language and resolution (keep in mind
having to duplicate all of them in white colour), and then we changed
to Fcitex, all that work is useless now (again, more icons)

That's why Lubuntu theme (the only one) is the only pre-installed,
depending on Gnome icons (they keep those glyphs updated so we can
focus on apps) and same with GTK. Also, a distro usually uses just one
theme, that visually identifies the system, and it can't be the perfect
match for every user. And that's where Linux tops over other OSes,
letting you to customise at any level.

Anyway, if you want to get back the semi-dark theme, you can grab the
GTK [1] and icon [2] themes (I released them to allow any user to
continue or fork them), or even download new ones from Gnome-Look [3].
Sorry if this isn't what you expected to hear, but we're doing a big
effort to keep the Lubuntu overall looking nice, specially now we're
porting everything to Qt, using a new syntax, new apps new controls and
almost re-doing it from scratch.

Thanks for understanding.

[1] https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1013337
[2] https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1011980
[3] https://www.gnome-look.org/search?projectSearchText=lubuntu

On sön, 2016-08-28 at 17:15 -0500, Simon Quigley wrote:
> Adding Rafael Laguna, our artwork guy.
> 
> I would personally love a dark theme, but from what I remember, that
> is
> a thing of the past. Could you explain, Rafael?
> 
> On 08/28/2016 05:07 PM, scrooya...@riseup.net wrote:
> 
> > I'm playing a bit with the themes and icons and i can't really find
> > a
> > nice dark theme. That also has themed the grey window borders.
> > 
> > Lubuntu-dark-panel isn't exactly dark.
> > 
> > I now have dark panel configured with the natura color theme and
> > that
> > has a nice feel to it though the grey is still keeping it very
> > bright.
> > 
> > And if i manually change the colors how do i then save the theme so
> > that
> > i can share my config?
> > I mean where should the theme be saved?  When i press the "create a
> > theme archive .obt" button it wants me to select a directory where
> > to
> > store it, why doesn't is in point already to the directory? What
> > directory should that be?  Whatever location i choose, it does not
> > accept my choice.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Hardware Usage Stats

2016-08-21 Thread Rafael Laguna
The proper URL for downloads is /downloads, not /download. WP tries to
solve it taking you to the closest title. Also, "downloads" is what you
see in the menu.

The menus are working fine. We can't set several "similar" links to
redirect (which is awful to configure in WP) to the desired page.
 

On lör, 2016-08-20 at 20:38 -0500, Simon Quigley wrote:
> Rafael,
> 
> I can't figure out how to correct this, could you take a look?
> 
> On 08/20/2016 08:30 PM, scrooya...@riseup.net wrote:
> > 
> > i just noticed that
> > https://ununtu.me/download resolves as
> (he means https://lubuntu.me/download )
> > 
> > http://lubuntu.me/download-lubuntu-1210/
> > 
> > https://ununtu.me/downloads gives the current releases
> > 
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[lubuntu-users] [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites

2016-08-03 Thread Rafael Laguna
Thank you, Einar. I contacted with the DuckDuckGo guys, and they were
very kind. They also made a custom search command (#lubuntu) for us!

Regarding the new site, I must say it all began as a simple blog coming
along the main website. One of its functions was informing about the
updates, install parties and artwork. The "problem" is that it started
to grow up, and I kept the release information more up to date than the
"official" site itself. That's how it began a whole site about Lubuntu,
with news, blog, and more sections. And we're planning to expand it even
more.

Nowadays, when Lubuntu sees a new release, we update lubuntu.me the very
moment it happens. lubuntu.net delays it, even weeks after the release
date. That's why I can't consider it very official, as its owner isn't
carrying out the community functions he signed for. The day I can't
comply with my duties, I'll resign and more admins will take care of it.
This is how it works.

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Title:
  Confusing for users with many websites

Status in Lubuntu Artwork:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  Hi! I have used Lubuntu for many years and thought the lubuntu.net
  webstte was the official site for lubuntu. I have subscribed to the
  RSS feed to get news, but lately, there have been very few. Recently,
  I discovered the lubuntu.me website. It seems more active and the blog
  is up to date on news. There is no indication on either that they are
  not official, but on the bottom of both, there seems to be information
  pointing towards both being owned by individuals, not by the Lubuntu
  project. This makes it hard to know which is the official site, if
  any. Would it not be less confusing for users to have one website and
  make the other address redirect to it?

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Re: [lubuntu-users] LibreOffice 5

2016-02-11 Thread Rafael Laguna
Hi, Wilbert:

LibreOffice 5 uses a different window widget control and what they call
"menu integration". It has proven to be buggy in loits of environments,
including Openbox, Mutter and minimal X11 managers (Rat Poison, iwm,
WindowMaker, etc). Until they team fixes that (among other news, like
the Libreoffice cloud access) I highly recommend NOT to use version 5,
but 4 instead.

If your problem is the scrolllbar I recommend you to use the official
themes provided by Ubuntu and derivatives (Lubuntu's Box, Ubuntu's
Light Themes, Xubuntu's Greybird, etc). Also ensure you have installed
the packages libreoffice-gtk and libreoffice-gtk3 to enable full GTK3
compatibility.

Cheers!


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> Dear all,
> 
> I have a question about LibreOffice. I put the same question on
> libreofficeforum.org about two months ago, but did not get any
> response yet.
> 
> I use Lubuntu 14.04.3 and LibreOffice 5.0.4.2 which is a 'still'
> version and therefore said to be stable.
> 
> When loading a large document in LibreOffice, and selecting all text,
> and subsequently changing the font, two things happen:
> 
> 1. the scroll bar on the right does no longer work properly
> 2. the main menus on top of the screen do not work any longer.
> 
> I have to close LibreOffice with 'kill -9 id' in a terminal window.
> 
> Does anyone know how these problems can be solved? 
> 
> I did not have these problems with LibreOffice 4.6 en OpenOffice
> 4.1.2, but I prefer to use LibreOffice 5.
> 
> Best,
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Re: Facebook and Lubuntu

2015-08-29 Thread Rafael Laguna
When you open attachments or files from an app, all apps use the 
GtkOpenFile dialog, not PCManFM. Anyway, it must show tiny thumbnails as 
icons, or you must see, by clicking each one, a small preview appearing 
on your right.


Try to clean the icon thumbnails cache erasing ~/.thumbnails
...and re-login.


On 29/08/15 16:24, Wilbert Heeringa wrote:

Dear all,

Maybe I have strange question. When importing (or: uploading?) pictures
in Facebook the filemanager (pcmanfm?) is called, then you select the
files from the list shown, and these will be uploaded.

However, the list showns filenames, not thumnails, which makes it
difficult the choose the right files. Is it possible to change this, so
that thumnails are shown instead of filenames?

I know that you can change this in pcmanfm, I did this also, and when
using pcmanfm individually, this works. But this does not affect when
pcmanfm is called by Facebook for uploading pictures.

I hope anyone can help ...

Best,

Wilbert





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Re: Switch from ibus to fcitx for input method ?

2015-08-15 Thread Rafael Laguna
My experience with Fcitex is better than with iBus. This one keeps being 
buggy with some apps. When I had to use foreign (CJK) characters Fcitex 
worked better. Ubuntu Kylin is using it by default.


On 15/08/15 19:01, Julien Lavergne wrote:

Hi,

I'm thinking of using fcitx instead of ibus for the input method by
default on Lubuntu, since ibus launch a lot of stuff by default and
fcitx has good feedbacks.

Do people who use input method have some comments on fcitx usage ? I
would be very interesting to have some feedbacks (I don't really use
input method).

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne





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Re: Add BlueGriffon icon to Menu->Internet

2015-08-06 Thread Rafael Laguna
You have to create the file "bluegriffon.desktop" in 
~/.local/share/applications/ and put this on it:


[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=BlueGriffon
Comment=Web editor
Exec=/path/to/bluegriffon
Icon=xchat
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Network;
StartupNotify=true


Then set its properties to allow being executable. That's. You'll see 
in the menus or launchers.



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On sáb, ago 1, 2015 at 8:42 , Marlon Ng  wrote:
Hi guys.  I have BlueGriffon installed and I've successfully placed a 
BlueGriffon icon on the desktop.


I also want it to show in Menu->Internet.  How do I do it?  Currently 
"Internet" has Google Chrome, Firefox, Pidgin, Sylpheed, and 
Transmission.  I want BlueGriffon in there too.


Thank you for your time.

Kaye



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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

2015-08-06 Thread Rafael Laguna
Trust me, Julien reads this. He doesn't usually answer. He's busy 
finishing the desktop apps. But he's easily reachable.



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On jue, ago 6, 2015 at 6:57 , Walter Lapchynski  wrote:
For anyone that wants to help track this down I'm working on it at 
#ubuntu-release. The last commit to our seed is what caused the 
problem:


https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/revision/296

Unfortunately, the problem is not obvious.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Walter Lapchynski  
wrote:
It's too bad we haven't heard from Julien as my bet is that this is 
easily fixed. That being said, assuming we don't, it best that we do 
release rather than not release at all, so I vote for the DVD/USB 
only.


On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Phill. Whiteside 
 wrote:

The alternates have been pulled.

Nio / Walter / Julien. Do we release with over size for 14.04.3 
and say it needs DVD / USB or no release at all?


I'm minded to allow 14.04.3 out with the proviso it is solely dvd / 
usb based and people needing CD can use an earlier version and 
simply update.


Not sure how long we have for a discussion Does the red bug 
become grey.


Just my thoughts,

Phill.

On 5 August 2015 at 22:06, Simon Quigley  
wrote:
I am running the alternate Lubuntu 14.04.3 install .iso right now 
and
I don't see any errors...I will keep you posted if it works 
completely

fine...

Thanks,
Simon Quigley

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Re: Add BlueGriffon icon to Menu->Internet

2015-08-01 Thread Rafael Laguna

Sorry, I used "xchat" as an icon but you can specify your own.


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On sáb, ago 1, 2015 at 8:42 , Marlon Ng  wrote:
Hi guys.  I have BlueGriffon installed and I've successfully placed a 
BlueGriffon icon on the desktop.


I also want it to show in Menu->Internet.  How do I do it?  Currently 
"Internet" has Google Chrome, Firefox, Pidgin, Sylpheed, and 
Transmission.  I want BlueGriffon in there too.


Thank you for your time.

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Re: Window compositing in LXDE 14.04 [PPC]?

2015-07-18 Thread Rafael Laguna
It is command line. Actually Compton is a fork of xcompmgr. Now there's 
a simple GUI for configuring it, but it's easier to handle in a 
terminal. I made a short and easy guide to handle it:


http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/p/compton.html


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On jue, 9 jul, 2015 at 9:20 , Brendan Perrine  
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:54:54 -0700
Fritz Hudnut  wrote:


 HH:

 Reading the blog report it looks like Compton is CLI based??  Seems 
like it
 is as he is showing the various line items to set it up . . . I'd 
prefer a
 simple GUI item that I can check or uncheck.  Either of those other 
apps

 "xcompmgr" or "cairo-compmgr" GUI items, or all are CLI??

 F

 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Fritz Hudnut 
 wrote:


 > Homes:
 >
 > Thanks for the fast reply . . . I'll check it.  Is "compton" 
created by
 > hip-hop aficionados???  I could probably drive over and pick it 
up . . .
 > after traffic hours, whenever that is . . . .  LA is all about 
the traffic

 > . . . .  : - )
 >
 > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. <
 > herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
 >
 >> Compton is great for what you are looking for. See the 
ppcluddite blog

 >> for detail on how to set it up.
 >>
 >> Sent from my iPhone
 >>
 >> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Fritz Hudnut 


 >> wrote:
 >> >
 >> > Folks:
 >> >
 >> > I've been continuing my testing of my min-installed XFCE 14.04 
for PPC,
 >> and, kind of a mixed bag . . . it's ***almost*** there in terms 
of a daily
 >> frontline system, seems like the kernel figured out how to do 
"suspend" . .
 >> . but still, glitchy when it comes to dragging windows and th 
fan runs
 >> incessantly for "normal" tasks like typing emails . . . .  Both 
OSX 10.4.11

 >> and XFCE 14 seem to have problems loading the Gmail page . . . .
 >> >
 >> > Today I thought I'd add LXDE to the mix and had to figure out 
how to
 >> get the toolbar moved out of the way of the cairo-dock . . . but 
then the
 >> large "shadow" has appeared around the cairo dock.  In XFCE all 
I had to do
 >> was open "window manager" and check the "enable compositing" box 
and I was
 >> good to go.  Going through the numerous apps that might relate 
to window

 >> management in LXDE doesn't show anything like that.
 >> >
 >> > Can anyone point me to the application that might be the GUI 
option to
 >> enable compositing?  Or, I have to add "compiz" or "metacity" or 
something,
 >> which will then let me check the "enable compositing" box?  As 
it is now
 >> the blue shadow cuts off a large swath of the screen real estate 
. . . .

 >> >
 >> > Next stop, check and see if Openbox will show the cairo-dock 
&& shadow
 >> . . . or nothing at all . . . .  : - )  Dang, had to quit C-D 
just to see

 >> the send button . . . .
 >> >
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I think that actually compton isn't really CLI based but a grapical 
application that is configured with a configuration file. I think I 
remember seeing one or two differnt GUI utilities for compton but I 
don't think they made it into the repos and with ppas not being build 
for powerpc I am not sure if there are builds for them. Sometimes 
compiling a GUI from source is harder than just editing the config 
files.  I seem to remember one a while back called paranoid that came 
with pclinuxos but have not really seen that elsewhere or widely 
discussed.


I think I know quite a bit for someone who doesn't really like 
compositing or desktop effects.

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Re: How do you know if it is safe to remove a usb

2015-01-12 Thread Rafael Laguna
I simply look at the mount icon at the places panel in PCManFM, that
"eject" arrow disappears if fully unmounted.

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On 12 January 2015 at 16:21,  wrote:

> Exactly.
> Otherwise if the usb pendrive has a blinking led it should stop blinking
> when writing is done.
>
>
>
>   Originalnachricht
> Von: Linda
> Gesendet: Montag, 12. Januar 2015 15:33
> An: lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Betreff: How do you know if it is safe to remove a usb
>
> I have a script that uses cp -a to create a backup to a
> mounted usb volume. In the past I have used Ubuntu and
> nautilus. In Nautilus when you unmount the usb drive after
> finishing the script it gives you a warning that it is
> writing to disk and it is not safe to remove the usb drive.
> In PCManFM does not give this message so in PCManFM how do
> you know when it is done writing the content that was cached
> and is actually safe to remove the usb drive? Is it when
> the drive disappears from the file list?
> Thanks
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Re: Wi-fi network icon is duplicated

2015-01-08 Thread Rafael Laguna
Sorry but I have to ask. Did you install any other environment, like MATE?
Adding more desktops use to add their own connection applets. This happens
to me, using MATE and Unity.

Cheers!


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>
> ​Greetings,
>
> For some time I have had two network icons appearing at bottom right task
> bar (4 vertical bars).
> In the beginning when installing Lubuntu there was only one.
> Why is this duplicated, and how do I make only one appear?
>
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Re: Permissions restreintes sur mon installation 14.10

2015-01-06 Thread Rafael Laguna
I'm having that problem too. Everytime I use GrSync it alerts me about 
that folder's permissions. I simply delete it to continue the backup 
process.




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On mar, ene 6, 2015 at 7:55 , Florian Coste  wrote:
Julien : Oups, je me suis trompé, je voulais te donner une commande 
pour avoir un retour simple, et court, mais je me suis trompé. 
Essayes-cela : ls -la et retourne moi la ligne où il y a .dbus


J'avais déjà eu ce problème, changer les droits de ce répertoire 
avait résolu le souci. Si ce n'est pas cela, je ne sais pas, essayes 
avec ce que te dis Israel. Tu nous as pas dis si tu comprenais 
l'anglais ?


Israel : Once, I had a similar problem like Julien. It was the 
repertory .dbus who had only root permissions. Do you think it can be 
something like that ?


Le 6 janvier 2015 18:54, julien  a écrit :

Bonjour Florian,

Retour de commande :

julien@nom-fb9b15d2723:~$ ls -l .dbus/
total 4
drwxrwxrwx 2 julien julien 4096 déc.  26 20:56 session-bus


Je pense repartir sur une fresh install.

Merci de ton concours.

julien



On 05/01/2015 19:27, Florian Coste wrote:

Bonjour,
Tu es ici sur une liste de diffusion internationale, donc il est 
préférable de parler anglais pour t'exprimer. Si toutefois cela 
t'es difficile, tu peux poster ton problème sur le forum 
ubuntu-fr.org


Pour ma part, je ne suis pas sur de pouvoir t'aider correctement. 
Je ne sais pas ce qu'est polkit ou policykit. Mais, j'ai déjà eu 
cette erreur, il me semble. Est-ce que tu peux renvoyer le retour 
de la commande suivante ?   ls -l .dbus/


Florian

Le 2 janvier 2015 22:31, julien  a écrit :

Bonjour à tous ,
Suite à une migration de version de lubuntu 12.04 vers lubuntu 
14.04, j'ai perdu certaines permissions telles que l'accès aux 
disques dur amovibles et l'impossibilité d'éteindre l'ordinateur 
avec comme message  : 
gdbus.error:org.freedesktop.Dbus.error.Access Denied : operation 
not permited...


Je pense que cela à avoir avec polkit ou policykit mais je ne 
trouve pas de solutions sur la toile bien que ce problème soit 
répandu


Pouvez vous m'apporter du soutien ?

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Re: Deleting old/unused files

2014-12-03 Thread Rafael Laguna
Or you could use the BleachBit tool (available in the repos) for an
extensive cleaning.

Nice sticker / button, btw  ;)
On Wed Dec 03 2014 at 11:51:34 Leszek Lesner  wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 12:49:07 schrieb Steven Duckworth:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am currently using a Fujitsu Siemens Intel Celeron M laptop with 40GB
> > onboard memory (my PC motherboard recently burnt out), and was wondering
> as
> > to the safest way to delete old or unwanted files in Synaptic Package
> > Manager.
> >
> > ...
> >
>
> For cleaning the cache of the packagemanager the terminal command
> sudo apt-get clean
> should help.
>
> Greetings
> Leszek
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Re: donate

2014-12-02 Thread Rafael Laguna
Jean, your wiki still not working. Anyway, I'll need your help soon, for
translating this poster https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing#Poster

See you in IRC very soon (if this f**king jobn lets me).
On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 17:14:37 Jean  wrote:

> Ok, that's my launchpad account.
>
> This is the first time I will translate (I've already done some artworks
> for several tools like Q-DVD-Author). So the team will have to guide me...
>
> Ok for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jean-cartier
>
> See ya later on #philw (I'm already introduce in this channel).
>
>
>
>   Le Vendredi 21 novembre 2014 15h50, Rafael Laguna <
> rafaellag...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
> Okay, I need you to have a Launchpad user and a Ubuntu personal wiki
> (usually the same user name).
> Something like: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jean-cartier
>
> I think you maight be this: https://launchpad.net/~jean-cartier, don't
> you?
>
> You're now part of the Global Team. From now you can keep contact with in
> many ways: from mailing lists (here), directly to me, or using a freenode
> channel named #phillw (Phill, let me introduce him, to the channel), a free
> and distro-agnostic channel where everybody say what they think. Anyway
> we're mainly focused in Lubuntu.
>
> Almost done, but welcome aboard!
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Re: ibus on lubuntu

2014-11-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
If ibus fail to install try installing fcitx. It's another input method and
it works fine. Anyways, ibus should be installed among with your new
languages.

On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 11:15:32 Sunita Barve  wrote:

> i tried installing ibus on lubuntu desktop. When i add my local language
> screen gets locked. Only English language works.
>
> Am i missing anything.
>
> reg
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Re: Donate

2014-11-21 Thread Rafael Laguna
And beer. Don't forget the beer.

Beer is fine.

On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 16:08:59 Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Andre Rodovalho <
> andre.rodova...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stick with us, we all learn together...
>>
>
> Good point, and the better we learn as we truly organize as a team and
> commit ourselves to sharing our knowledge and skills!
>
> tl;dr money is great, but contributions are even better!!!
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
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Re: donate

2014-11-21 Thread Rafael Laguna
Okay, I need you to have a Launchpad user and a Ubuntu personal wiki
(usually the same user name).
Something like: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jean-cartier

I think you maight be this: https://launchpad.net/~jean-cartier, don't you?

You're now part of the Global Team. From now you can keep contact with in
many ways: from mailing lists (here), directly to me, or using a freenode
channel named #phillw (Phill, let me introduce him, to the channel), a free
and distro-agnostic channel where everybody say what they think. Anyway
we're mainly focused in Lubuntu.

Almost done, but welcome aboard!

On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 13:52:29 Jean  wrote:

> I accept !
>
>
>
>   Le Vendredi 21 novembre 2014 11h25, Rafael Laguna <
> rafaellag...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
> Oh jean, your words are music to my ears :)  Have a look here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Global
>
> And consider being member part of the Global / translation team. In this
> team I'll assign translation tasks for every language translator, you
> upload it and it gets updated in the wikis / apps / servers. That's the
> procedure. Simple. All text will be under your responsibility.
>
> So, do you accept?
>
> On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 10:27:41 Jean  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I can help for translation. I'm french.
>
> Cordially
>
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Re: Donate

2014-11-21 Thread Rafael Laguna
That's really inspiring from you. I'm glad when people appreciate our
efforts. So many many thanks, for your donation and, specially, for your
kind words.

Cheers!

On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 10:56:00 Steven Duckworth 
wrote:

> Dear Lubuntu friends/tech support,
>
> Just a quick message of sincere thanks for all your hard work with Lubuntu.
> I recently made a donation via PayPal to Canonical and will certainly
> donate again in future.
>
> I have also been spreading the Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Open Source gospel to all my
> friends, customers, acquaintances, and the response has been good, although
> it is generally very difficult to persuade people to leave Windows OS's.
>
> Your constant Lubuntu updates are appreciated, although much of the info
> is above my level of expertise.
>
> What a great community spirit we share!
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Steven Duckworth
> ZA
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Re: donate

2014-11-21 Thread Rafael Laguna
Oh jean, your words are music to my ears :)  Have a look here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Global

And consider being member part of the Global / translation team. In this
team I'll assign translation tasks for every language translator, you
upload it and it gets updated in the wikis / apps / servers. That's the
procedure. Simple. All text will be under your responsibility.

So, do you accept?

On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 10:27:41 Jean  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Maybe I can help for translation. I'm french.
>
> Cordially
>
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Re: donate

2014-11-20 Thread Rafael Laguna
Yes, I do! :)


On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 16:45:38 Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> > On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 0:43:44 Fran Fondo  wrote:
> >>> Hello ubuntu web browsing Mate can make a donation to the team
> >>>   How come you can not make a donation to the Lubuntu team?
>
> Supposedly Ubuntu will accept donations and use them for needs in the
> community, especially those of the LoCo community. However, I can't
> find the link.
>
> Still, the best way to donate to Lubuntu is to contribute your time. I
> don't mean help coding or tech support, either. Lubuntu has many needs
> in order to keep running as a well-oiled machine. You can find out
> more here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
>
> For example, Rafael Laguna's translations team needs help from
> non-English speakers.
>
> If you have any questions about how you can help, please let me know.
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Re: donate

2014-11-20 Thread Rafael Laguna
Anyway, you should ask Phill Whiteside, our coordinator, if you're so kind
to donate. I'm sure he'll keep every investment to improve our servers :)

Phill: ping! :)

On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 0:43:44 Fran Fondo  wrote:

> Hello ubuntu web browsing Mate can make a donation to the team
>   How come you can not make a donation to the Lubuntu team?
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Re: donate

2014-11-19 Thread Rafael Laguna
We're that good, we don't ask for money or nothing :) We're using a trade
mark registered by Canonical. By legal reasons we cannot sell or ask for
money due to Ubunbu and LXDE licenses. Anyway we're not here for the money,
and when our "resources" are low we ask for help and it's always solved in
some or other way. But thanks for the idea.
On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 0:43:44 Fran Fondo  wrote:

> Hello ubuntu web browsing Mate can make a donation to the team
>   How come you can not make a donation to the Lubuntu team?
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Re: marketing stuff - translated, and more works

2014-11-16 Thread Rafael Laguna
Hello, friends:

Serbian translations added. Thanks so much, Zeljko for your efforts. If you
want to join our Global Team you're more than welcomed. I'd ask you for a
bit more translations ;)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing

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On 4 November 2014 11:32, Zeljko Popivoda  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I translated some of the marketing materials
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing
> Lubuntu posters in serbian (cyrillic and latin)
> http://spreadubuntu.org/sr/material/poster/lubuntu-1404-poster-serbian
> http://spreadubuntu.org/sr/material/poster/lubuntu-1404-poster
> Lubuntu banners in serbian
> http://spreadubuntu.org/sr/material/site-button/lubuntu-banners
>
> and made
> Lubuntu countdown in english and serbian (cyrillic and latin)
> http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/countdown-banner/lubuntu-countdown
> Lubuntu Serbia website with information amd tutorials on serbian
> http://lubunturs.wordpress.com/
>
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vivid vervet artwork cycle

2014-11-13 Thread Rafael Laguna

Dear Volunteers:

I'm pleased to say, in the name of Lubuntu Artwork Team [1], that we 
start a new challenge: Vivid Vervet [3]. This time we'll see the 
(re)birth of a great Qt-based desktop environment, LXQt, together with 
our usual LXDE. Nevertheless Artwork items and themes are kinda 
"frozen" for this edition [4], incoming proposals [2] are welcomed if 
you dare to create some.


You can add your own icons or suggest what apps do need to be created, 
using the Box design guidelines [5]. If you prefer to collaborate with 
other content, like banner, flyers, posters, or even translating items, 
you're invited to take anything from the Marketing wiki [6] and use it, 
improve it or creating new ones.


That's all for now, friends. Thank you for your patience!

Now the links:

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Vivid
[4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Vivid/Box
[5] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Guidelines
[6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing


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Re: Your Guys' New General Manager

2014-11-04 Thread Rafael Laguna
Welcome aboard, Svetlana! :)


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On 4 November 2014 10:39, Nio Wiklund  wrote:

> Den 2014-11-04 09:34, Jörn Schönyan skrev:
> > Am Montag, 3. November 2014 23:14:30 CEST schrieb Svetlana Belkin:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Allow me to introduce myself:
> >>
> >> I'm Svetlana Belkin and I was asked by Phill Whiteside and others to
> >> be your general manager in order for you guys to be on top of things.
> >> I will be working with your sub-team admins, mangers, and leaders to
> >> get the jobs done.  We now have a team[1] for this reason.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins
> >
> > Welcome to the team, belkinsa!
>
> +1
>
> Nio
>
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Re: Roadmap proposal for Lubuntu 15.04

2014-10-28 Thread Rafael Laguna
Hi, Aere:​



> There is a new Ubuntu variant, called "ubuntuMATE", which has a desktop
> based on Gnome 2.
>
> In reading about it, I got the impression (which may not be correct) that
> they are maintaining Gnome 2 (and its libraries).
>
> If that is actually the case, then gtk2 may be available for the
> foreseeable future.
>

Aere, MATE is forking everything to GTK3. It's not the old Gnome desktop,
it's a new environment porting previous Gnome version to use GTK3 apps and
libs. The process is not finished yet, so you may find both GTK2 and GTK3
libs working.


>
> I have experimented with ubuntuMATE.  It is reliable (in the areas I
> test), and I like it.  You can put applets in the panel (as before), and
> you can customize the colors as well.  It runs well (though not as well as
> Lubuntu) on older, slower machines.
>


About the applets, you have only available those ported by the MATE team.
You cannot use Gnome standard applets.


>
> It is (to me) the new release of Ubuntu I was looking forward to, when
> they unexpectedly substituted the Unity desktop.
>
> I haven't tried to install it yet on a machine with only 512 meg of RAM.
> I suspect it would fail, seeing how much swap space it used during an
> install.


​And yes, it's lightweight. More than I expected. It's memory footprint may
be lighter than XFCE once the whole desktop loaded. But I insist, it's not
Gnome, nothing to do. But it's beautiful :)
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Roadmap proposal for Lubuntu 15.04

2014-10-28 Thread Rafael Laguna
Good news. From Artwork, I must say that Lubuntu themes are going to enter
a "freezing" status. As no more GTK3 development is intended for this
desktop, and it's fully functional (even in 3rd party newer ones), I only
have a few tasks to do, like a re-merge with Light Themes from Ubuntu (to
fix some Gnome bugs) and keep it maintained.

Our goal now must be a fully working LXQt desktop with all visual aspects
tuned up, and we're working on that. We'll discuss too about re-organizing
the teams or agendas. It's good to keep synced between us.

Thanks, Julien.



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On 28 October 2014 16:35, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> > I would like to recreate the
> > blueprints we had some releases ago to organize the work for this
> > cycle. You can find them under
> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-v-flavor-lubuntu
>
> Where's the whole app discussion?
>
> > On the Gtk side, many components have been updated recently, and work
> > continue on the panel. Also, small features are added. However, we
> > still depends on gtk2, we don't know how long it will be supported.
>
> Have we tried asking the maintainers?
>
> > If several people
> > are interesting, we can have 1 or several meetings, on IRC or using
> > the UOS support to discuss all of this.
>
> Yes please! Just say when!
>
> Thanks for all your hard work, boss ;)
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Re: iBus alternatives

2014-10-01 Thread Rafael Laguna
I'm using now fcitx (with sogou, a CJK support). It's faster, themeable 
(very important :D) and included in Ubuntu repos. It's the language 
support that Ubuntu Kylin uses.




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On mié, 1 oct, 2014 at 7:22 , ∅  wrote:

Especially to those with non-English languages that aren't
well-supported by simply using the Compose key: has anyone tried uim
or scim?

I do a lot of Unicode (an ellipsis is NOT ..., it's …, people!) so I
value an input manager, but I don't have a particular NEED to do it to
communicate, so I'd like to get an opinion from others.

I've used scim and find it a little funkier than iBus (for example,
for me, the Unicode input method is ONLY for Unicode so you'd have to
type hex for every character, i.e. not cool). uim is a newer project
that I have yet to play with. Anyone out there try it?

Turns out Xubuntu doesn't include ANY input manager in lieu of the
problems with iBus. I feel like we probably should include something
because of how many international users we have. I would expect the
same for Xubuntu but maybe that's not the case.

Feel free to share your 2¢, 2£, or 2€ on the matter. ☺

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Re: LibreOffice under Lubuntu

2014-09-25 Thread Rafael Laguna
No offense. Just I'm listening too much lately that Canonical repos has 
"modified" apps and that's not true. If some doesn't work we can blaim 
the dependencies, of course.


But don't worry, my "designer honor" is intact :D

Cheers!



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On jue, 25 sep, 2014 at 6:57 , Peter Hillier-Brook  
wrote:

On 25/09/14 01:56, Israel wrote:



 On 09/24/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

 On 24/09/14 21:56, Israel wrote:

 On 09/24/2014 03:18 PM, John Hupp wrote:

 On 9/24/2014 3:57 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

 Hello All,

 I've encountered a problem with running LibreOffice (4.4.0.x) 
on a fresh
 installation of Lubuntu 14.04, in that text only paints as the 
mouse
 moves over it and mainly, but not always disappears as the 
mouse moves
 away. My machine is only an old toy (Pentium III) so this is 
not a

 serious problem, but I would like to understand it.

 Any thoughts, anyone.

 Peter HB
 A shot in the dark, but I encountered some odd effects vaguely 
like

 that on a machine with a video card that was not fully supported
 anymore.  In short, this could be a video driver issue.  But if 
so I

 think it likely that you would see some other effects outside of
 LibreOffice as well.  If such things *only* occur in 
LibreOffice, then

 the cause is probably elsewhere.


 Hi Peter,
 I agree with John, it sounds like a graphics card issue.  Did you
 install LibreOffice through the normal channels?
 I too am running 14.04.
 When I run:
 apt-cache policy libreoffice-writer
 I get:
 libreoffice-writer:
   Installed: 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1
   Candidate: 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1
 So I have 4.2 rather than 4.4  so You may have a strange version 
installed.

 I suggest installing Libreoffice from the repos.
 sudo apt-get install libreoffice
 or find it in your graphics package manager of choice.

 Thanks for the suggestions. I always install the "real thing" from
 libreoffice.org as I lack confidence in the repos' modifications 
to the

 designers' intentions. However I must apologise for the typo; the
 current version is 4.3.1, not 4.4.

 As suggested above, it could be a graphics card issue, but all 
other

 programs display just fine.

 Peter HB




 Hi Peter,
 if all other applications work just fine, then I would think that 
the

 issue is that the website's package is missing some essential
 modifications that the Ubuntu packagers make so it 'just  works' in 
the
 Ubuntu derivatives.  I'd suggest you try the repo version and see 
if the

 issue is still present.
 Otherwise, you might look for a PPA for the program, as there are 
most
 likely specific modifications that need to be made to the packaging 
for

 Ubuntu.


That's a good thought. Next time I fire up the m/c in question I'll 
give

the repository version a try.

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Re: LibreOffice under Lubuntu

2014-09-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
Peter, as a designer I must answer. Trust me when I say the last thing
the packagers think about is the application design. In fact, to
integrate better LibreOffice to any GTK desktop you must install a few
packages made separatedly from LibreOffice, like a couple GTK engines
and the theme Sifr.

(L)Ubuntu is stable and compatible enough to ensure any standard Linux
app will work once unpacked from the Internet, but that doesn't mean
packaged versions for our repositories are "touched" in some way.
They're just recompiled for easy install.

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On 25 September 2014 02:56, Israel  wrote:
>
>
> On 09/24/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>
> On 24/09/14 21:56, Israel wrote:
>
> On 09/24/2014 03:18 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>
> On 9/24/2014 3:57 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I've encountered a problem with running LibreOffice (4.4.0.x) on a fresh
> installation of Lubuntu 14.04, in that text only paints as the mouse
> moves over it and mainly, but not always disappears as the mouse moves
> away. My machine is only an old toy (Pentium III) so this is not a
> serious problem, but I would like to understand it.
>
> Any thoughts, anyone.
>
> Peter HB
>
> A shot in the dark, but I encountered some odd effects vaguely like
> that on a machine with a video card that was not fully supported
> anymore.  In short, this could be a video driver issue.  But if so I
> think it likely that you would see some other effects outside of
> LibreOffice as well.  If such things *only* occur in LibreOffice, then
> the cause is probably elsewhere.
>
> Hi Peter,
> I agree with John, it sounds like a graphics card issue.  Did you
> install LibreOffice through the normal channels?
> I too am running 14.04.
> When I run:
> apt-cache policy libreoffice-writer
> I get:
> libreoffice-writer:
>   Installed: 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1
>   Candidate: 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1
> So I have 4.2 rather than 4.4  so You may have a strange version installed.
> I suggest installing Libreoffice from the repos.
> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
> or find it in your graphics package manager of choice.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I always install the "real thing" from
> libreoffice.org as I lack confidence in the repos' modifications to the
> designers' intentions. However I must apologise for the typo; the
> current version is 4.3.1, not 4.4.
>
> As suggested above, it could be a graphics card issue, but all other
> programs display just fine.
>
> Peter HB
>
>
>
> Hi Peter,
> if all other applications work just fine, then I would think that the issue
> is that the website's package is missing some essential modifications that
> the Ubuntu packagers make so it 'just  works' in the Ubuntu derivatives.
> I'd suggest you try the repo version and see if the issue is still present.
> Otherwise, you might look for a PPA for the program, as there are most
> likely specific modifications that need to be made to the packaging for
> Ubuntu.
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Re: PCManFm and Keyring

2014-08-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
I won't say thing here about feelings. Let's say he's... approachless. So,
from now, if anybody finds a bug better declare it by himself. Also, I'm
not sure how much care the gtk version of pcmanfm is getting now.


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On 24 August 2014 23:42, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Rafael,
>
> looks like a bug, smells like a bug can you give pcman a gentle poke
> in the ribs to ask his opinion?
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 24 August 2014 17:29, Rafael Laguna  wrote:
>
>> That happened to me, because there where no app to store all my private
>> passwords (lilke Seahorse in Gnome).  I solved by installing Gigolo. It
>> stores the places and passwords itself and uses the file manager you want
>> to open it.
>>
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>>
>> On 24 August 2014 17:44, Andrew Diamond  wrote:
>>
>>>  I connected via FTP to my home server in PCManFM and created a
>>> Bookmark.  When I connected, it asked me to confirm the keyring password,
>>> or set it, and that's what I did.  Whenever I click the bookmark to my
>>> private server now, I get asked to re-enter the keyring password and the
>>> FTP password, even though when I last connected to the FTP server I checked
>>> off "Remember my username and password forever.".  So now, there are two
>>> steps to connect instead of zero.  Any thoughts on how to fix this?
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Re: PCManFm and Keyring

2014-08-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
That happened to me, because there where no app to store all my private
passwords (lilke Seahorse in Gnome).  I solved by installing Gigolo. It
stores the places and passwords itself and uses the file manager you want
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On 24 August 2014 17:44, Andrew Diamond  wrote:

> I connected via FTP to my home server in PCManFM and created a Bookmark.
>  When I connected, it asked me to confirm the keyring password, or set it,
> and that's what I did.  Whenever I click the bookmark to my private server
> now, I get asked to re-enter the keyring password and the FTP password,
> even though when I last connected to the FTP server I checked off "Remember
> my username and password forever.".  So now, there are two steps to connect
> instead of zero.  Any thoughts on how to fix this?
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Re: [Bug 1316384] Re: After upgrade from Lubuntu 13.10 to 14.04, color customization is ignored

2014-08-09 Thread Rafael Laguna
GTK3 windows and widgets cannot be colorized anymore. Only GTK2 apps keep
this feature. Forthcoming GTK4 libs won't be able to do that neither. So
it's not a 14.04 or 14.10 bug, it's simply a widget lack of features.

Also, the theme has change, now windows' background are almost white in
contrast with "old" versions that were more gray(ish). Now the Lubuntu
default theme follows Ubuntu's Light Themes design guides.

Tooltips visibility problems should be fixed by now if you add the Lubuntu
Artwork Daily PPA or download the standalone version of the theme. More
info here:

http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/p/artwork.html

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2014-08-09 18:02 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :

> On 08/09/2014 09:14 AM, Steven Constantine wrote:
>
>> After nearly 2hrs on this, I found the solution, here:
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230149
>>
>> "Just delete the entry iGtk/ColorScheme= from
>> ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf, and then your settings will be
>> saved"
>>
>>  Steven and All:
>
> I noticed two other differences from how it used to be.
>
> The biggest (most annoying) difference, is that in the past, the "Normal
> windows" colors (foreground and background) were used for the buttons as
> well.
>
> Now, the button colors conform to some default that is not available to be
> changed in the "Color" tab of the "Customize Look and Feel" window.
>
> The other difference, is that tool-tips ignore the "Tooltips" color
> specified, and instead use the "Normal windows" colors, which makes them
> indistinguishable from most of the window itself.
>
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Re: Geany under Lubuntu 14.10

2014-08-01 Thread Rafael Laguna
Hello, Wilbert.

This is an error from Lubuntu default theme, because of some Nautilus
missing dependencies that are already fixed. It's not important at all, and
you may continue using your system normally. In fact, sometimes, we put
"fake" or ghost images to cheat the theme engines on our purposes.

Anyway, if you launch often from the terminal and want to get rid off these
messages, you should use the new Lubuntu theme version (downloading or
adding a PPA). More info here:

http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/p/artwork.html

Thanks for your kind words.




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2014-08-01 11:31 GMT+02:00 Heeringa, W.J. :

> Dear all,
>
> I just upgraded from Lubuntu 13.10 to Lubuntu 14.10.
>
> Thanks to the developers for this new version!
>
> In general everything works smoothly. But when running my favorite editor
> Geany, I get a lot of error messages:
>
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:37: Background
> image options specified without filename
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:47: Kan
> afbeelding in pixmap_pad: ‘/nautilus/extra-widget.png’ niet vinden
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:75: Kan
> afbeelding in pixmap_pad: ‘/nautilus/resize_grip.png’ niet vinden
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:78: Overlay
> image options specified without filename
> etc.
>
> The same when running Gummi, which I used to use for editing LaTeX files:
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:34: Kan
> afbeelding in pixmap_pad: ‘/Sidebar/handle.png’ niet vinden
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:37: Background
> image options specified without filename
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:47: Kan
> afbeelding in pixmap_pad: ‘/nautilus/extra-widget.png’ niet vinden
> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/apps/nautilus.rc:75: Kan
> afbeelding in pixmap_pad: ‘/nautilus/resize_grip.png’ niet vinden
> etc.
>
> How can this happen? Do I need to do something special?
>
> Best,
>
> Wilbert
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Re: Reporting printer ink levels?

2014-07-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
Mine too, All-In-One 3070A. Also configurable without any cable (unlike
before).

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2014-07-24 21:48 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :

> On 07/24/2014 01:24 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>
>> So it would seem then that HP HPLIP does not support this function as
>> widely as I surmised from other feedback.
>>
> John, & Andre:
>
> I have an HP Officejet 7310 All-in-One printer, and it does not currently
> report ink levels.  It seems like it has reported ink levels in the past,
> but only rarely (if at all - I'm not certain of this).  Fortunately, I can
> see the ink levels by pressing the "OK" button on the printer's panel.
>
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> Aere
>
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Re: /etc/xdg/autostart bug is fixed!

2014-07-13 Thread Rafael Laguna
Indeed, great job :)

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2014-07-13 23:39 GMT+02:00 Israel :

>  Hi!
> Because nm-applet autostarts, and you tell it to autostart.  So you get
> two
> You can probably run as many as you want to, which might have some real
> world application...
> but it may be that the programmers never anticipated anyone trying to run
> 2 at a time.
>
> Potentially you could have some update script that runs, and looks to see
> if the user has two, and then removes the workaround.
> But, hey it works, that is awesome enough!!
>
> Julien rocks!
>
>
> On 07/13/2014 03:18 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>
>  And we'll need to communicate this on the media. Everybody who followed
> our instructions will see the double applet icon. My question is, why that
> app donesn't detect himself already running? Why multiple instances?
>
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> 2014-07-13 21:08 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :
>
>> On 07/13/2014 11:06 AM, John Hupp wrote:
>>
>>> The bug described at
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1308348 and
>>> elsewhere -- which caused nm-applet, update-notifier and everything else in
>>> /etc/xdg/autostart to fail to launch -- has been fixed.
>>>
>>> I first noticed this in the past week or so when after a round of
>>> updates, I had two instances of nm-applet running.
>>>
>>> So everyone who installed workarounds for those can now remove them.
>>>
>>> Perhaps this has already been noted in the list. If so it escaped my
>>> attention. Anyhow, some things bear repeating.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Julien!
>>>
>>>  John:
>>
>> Thank you for pointing that out. I was wondering why I had 2 instances of
>> the network applet.
>>
>> I removed my customization, and now I only have one.
>>
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Re: /etc/xdg/autostart bug is fixed!

2014-07-13 Thread Rafael Laguna
And we'll need to communicate this on the media. Everybody who followed our
instructions will see the double applet icon. My question is, why that app
donesn't detect himself already running? Why multiple instances?


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2014-07-13 21:08 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :

> On 07/13/2014 11:06 AM, John Hupp wrote:
>
>> The bug described at https://bugs.launchpad.net/
>> ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1308348 and elsewhere -- which caused
>> nm-applet, update-notifier and everything else in /etc/xdg/autostart to
>> fail to launch -- has been fixed.
>>
>> I first noticed this in the past week or so when after a round of
>> updates, I had two instances of nm-applet running.
>>
>> So everyone who installed workarounds for those can now remove them.
>>
>> Perhaps this has already been noted in the list. If so it escaped my
>> attention. Anyhow, some things bear repeating.
>>
>> Thanks, Julien!
>>
>>  John:
>
> Thank you for pointing that out. I was wondering why I had 2 instances of
> the network applet.
>
> I removed my customization, and now I only have one.
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Re: getting rid of iBus?

2014-06-25 Thread Rafael Laguna
Metapackages like lubuntu-desktop (or ubuntu-desktop) ensure complete and
global updates. Some packages may depend on it. But more important are some
configuration files, that aren't updated with individual package upgrades.
So, please, don't remove it.


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2014-06-25 13:38 GMT+02:00 Israel :

> On 06/24/2014 09:10 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> > On 06/24/2014 03:37 PM, ∅ wrote:
> >> Can you handle this use case without iBus? Maybe boot up a live image
> >> and uninstall iBus and see how it goes.
> > In the live CD (Lubuntu 14.04), when you mark the "ibus" package to be
> > removed, it also wants to remove "lubuntu-desktop".   I don't think I
> > want to try that...
> >
> Hi,
> for the record 'lubuntu-desktop' is a meta-package that pulls in all the
> dependencies.  AFAIK you can remove it safely.  I have removed it on
> multiple machines to no ill effect.
> But if you want to test removing ibus, simply remove it, and test it,
> and reinstall lubuntu-dekstop again.
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Re: Why is lubuntu-artwork not being updated in Trusty?

2014-06-16 Thread Rafael Laguna
Yes, not only on icons, GTK must be fixed too (I see glitches everywhere).
I'll fix as many bugs as I can. Also, if you see something able to be
changed, don't hesitate to tell me.

See, I fixed the nm-applet icons because of changes on it. Julien Lavergne
told me those icons created a malfunction on Transmission. So I fixed it. I
really appreciate your feedback.

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2014-06-16 17:22 GMT+02:00 Pierre Gobin :

>  Hi Rafael,
>
> I understand that we have to freeze artwork for each release. But I
> wondered if we could hope to have some artwork bug fixes in Lubuntu 14.04.1
> (I am thinking to monochrome icon in lxpanel) ?
>
>
> Le 10/06/2014 18:05, Rafael Laguna a écrit :
>
>  We make things for a reason. When we create new icons, themes, apps or
> whatever, they are intended to be part of the system you have on your home.
> But sometimes we need to experiment, or make tests, or just ensure what we
> do does not affect a massive amount of computers.
>
>  Box is part of Lubuntu, yes. But it's a standalone theme too, if you use
> another Linux distro. Also, I add lots of new icons and make changes in the
> GTK theme. Imagine the situation that I modify something that breaks the
> system on thousands of computers (it happened, trust me). Before we push
> the changes onto Ubuntu's main repos we have to be really really sure it
> works as expected.
>
>  That's the reason I have a separate PPA for artwork. The same about the
> staging apps. When you download a system you expect it keeps stable and not
> changing daily. And we're Artwork Team. We cannot login in Canonical's
> servers everyday and say "hey, I'm going to change some stuff, so your ISOs
> may change size and stability and package dependencies". There's a complex
> structure and there're protocols in the way we work.
>
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> 2014-06-10 17:44 GMT+02:00 N. W. :
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
>> >
>> > Its' normal that an independent
>> > development (the Unified Box for Linux) goes further than
>> > the official updates (the Ubuntu repositories).
>>
>>  I do not consider lubuntu-artwork to be independent from Lubuntu. When
>> I install Lubuntu, I want to receive updates to lubuntu-artwork (and by
>> default and automatically). Lubuntu ships with lubuntu-artwork by
>> default, so why shouldn't I receive updates for lubuntu-artwork by
>> default? Why do I have to search and add a PPA?
>>
>> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
>> >
>> > The version updated is 0.47 and you'll receive that
>> > version via the Artwork Daily PPA.
>>
>>  That does not answer my question. Why do I have to add this PPA to a
>> Lubuntu installation? Why isn't it added by default or why isn't
>> lubuntu-artwork receiving updates by default (without having to add
>> this PPA)?
>>
>> We're not talking about a third party GTK+ / icon theme here. We're
>> talking about the Box icon theme / Box GTK+ theme, the official theme
>> of an offical Ubuntu spin. I consider this to be quite a difference.
>>
>> By the way:
>>
>> I also do not understand why I have to search for and have to add a PPA
>> to receive those updates:
>>
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2014-May/007478.html
>> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/staging
>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-dev/+archive/staging>
>>
>> Why can't this just be added to Lubuntu by default?
>>
>> If you ask me, you really should release a new ISO with those things
>> being added / updating by default ASAP.
>>
>> Just saying...
>>
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Re: Evolution Limitations?

2014-06-16 Thread Rafael Laguna
I used Evolution for years, with POP3 behaviour, so imagine in a few years
how many files you can download, or how many messages you can store. No, I
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2014-06-16 23:52 GMT+02:00 Israel :

> On 06/15/2014 10:01 PM, c. marlow wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am just wondering does Evolution have storage limitations?
> >
> > like xx gigs is the limit before the whole program takes a dump.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Christopher
> >
> >
> >
> Hi,
> I have no idea.  Ideally it would have been written not to have a
> limit.  I guess you could contact the developers directly, and ask them,
> they would probably be the people to ask about this.
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Re: How to retain native application icons?

2014-06-15 Thread Rafael Laguna
Don't worry, in fact I thought I offended you :D

Anyway I tell you, you can't erase system folders that free way. There're
applications that look for glyphs (small icons for menu, toolbars, etc)
that are stored in those folders, and they might not run if these folders
are not present. Better you go to gnome-look.org and look for anything that
fits you. Or download any Tango variant with 3rd party themes addons. There
are many at deviantart.com that "respect" the original logos.

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2014-06-16 0:47 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Hello,
>
> > Israel wrote:
> >
> > [...] The way you can modify the icon to use the 'original' icon is
> > in the desktop files. [...]
>
> thank you for your tutorial. Much appreciated.
>
> However, can't I simply just delete "/usr/share/icons/lubuntu/apps"?
>
> I know, Rafael said one shouldn't delete system files/folders. But
> wouldn't that give me the result I want?
>
> > Israel wrote:
> >
> > The easier answer is of course to use a theme that doesn't have
> > integrated icons for apps, as Rafael > suggested.
>
> Sorry, but that is not easy at all. Most of the icon themes that do
> look good, do come with integrated icon apps.
>
> So, switching from the Box icon theme to another icon theme does not
> necessarily solve the issue.
>
> When I switch to the Faenza icon theme, the issue would be the same.
> When I switch to the elementary icon theme, the issue would be the
> same. And so on and so on.
>
> Rafael suggested:
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > [...] The choose gnome icon theme. It retains "original logos". [...]
>
> Well, I knew that. Even before I was posting the question here on the
> mailing list.
>
> However, I think the Box icon theme, for example, generally does look
> better than the GNOME icon theme. But I do not like that it is using
> it's own icons for applications (which are different from the original
> icons).
>
> As far as I can see, the GNOME icon theme does not fiddle with the
> application icons, simply because it doesn't come with custom
> application icons, right? The "/usr/share/icons/gnome/XxX/apps" folder
> only seems to have icons for GNOME apps, but not for third-party
> apps like Firefox, Audacious, Thunar, Sylpheed, LibreOffice and so on,
> right?
>
> So, if I would delete all the icons inside
> "/usr/share/icons/lubuntu/apps", which I do want to be original, then
> that should solve the issue as well, shouldn't it?
>
> > Israel wrote:
> >
> > Don't be offended by him.  Sometimes it is easy to be offended when it
> > seems as someone is criticizing your hard work.
>
> It was not my intention to offend him. I also told him: "I do not say
> that your logos look bad." ;). And I really mean that. His logos look
> quite good.
>
> But:
>
> When I look for an application like Firefox or LibreOffice Writer or
> Sylpheed or whatever..., then I usually know what to look for because I
> know how their icons/logos do look like.
>
> Now, when I am using an icon theme that has application icons which
> differ from the original icons, that actually is distracing from work
> because the applications which usually can be easily recognized from/by
> their icons, suddenly can no longer be recognized from their icons as
> easily, simply because the icon is a different one.
>
> Personally I think that is very off-putting. And I could imagine that
> it would be even more off-putting and confusing for people that are not
> much into tech.
>
> By the way, if I would have intended to offend him, I would also have to
> offend other icon theme designers, because, as already mentioned, a lot
> of icon themes do come with application icons which differ from the
> original application icons.
>
> Well, that leads me to a question:
>
> Considering that you all seem to tell me that I should use another icon
> theme if I want the application icons to be original, could you please
> name some good looking, professionaly made icon themes, which retain
> the original application icons (apart from the GNOME and Humanity
> icon themes)?
>
> ;)
>
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Re: How to retain native application icons?

2014-06-15 Thread Rafael Laguna
I think my last answer was too rough. My apologies if you got offended.
It's just that sometimes the concepts of design are difficult to
understand, or even totally misunderstood. If you are new to Linux you'd
find a lot of things really different from other operating systems.

So, I "dare" you to test other themes, desktop and systems, to see which
one fits your needs. Maybe a "changeling" desktop metaphor is not for you.
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2014-06-15 18:31 GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna :

> The choose gnome icon theme. It retains "original logos". Or maybe their
> icons don't resemble Windows enough and you think the folder will become
> unrecognizable?
>
> Don't speak about me. Let's look to ACYL icons, totally diferent. You
> should thank to people like this author the time he spent on "modifying and
> screwing up" the original logos just to bring users an homogeneous look for
> their system, with no mixed balls, squares, triangles, romboids, and
> infinite forms that, from a designer point of view, as mine, is a real and
> complete shit.
>
> And don't misunderstand me, I love Gnome icons and his creator, Jimmac,
> but the purpose of an icon theme is make a pleasant and smooth visual
> sensation. Don't give me lessons of design, I'm a designer and Box is a
> concept (not a way of destructing logos) widely accepted. There's a thing
> called "creative overall justification" or guidelines (did you read it
> before using Box? I post these notes twice a year, on every Lubuntu
> release: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Guidelines). Every
> design has one to explain things, like why we enclose logos in squares or
> use circles, or whatever.
>
> If you don't like a theme, just choose another. That is freedom.
>
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>
> 2014-06-15 17:13 GMT+02:00 John Niendorf :
>
> Well I am new to the list, but this strikes me as, well, silly.
>> Is the debate really over how someone chooses to display an icon on
>> their system?
>> If you like the "default" icons or are afraid of violating a trademark
>> then by all means feel free to use whatever icon came with the
>> software...as for me I prefer icons that match my theme...
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 06/15/2014 04:29 PM, N. W. wrote:
>>
>> > well, I think customizing icons is a fine thing, as long as you only
>> > customize things like folder icons or some arrows or buttons or
>> > something like that.
>> >
>> > But logos? No, I think that's wrong.
>> >
>> > Why?
>> >
>> > Because logos are "trademarks". The app developers probably put a lot
>> > of thought and work into making their logos and they probably were
>> > striving for recognizability and identiy and so on.
>> >
>> > Now, look at your Audacious or Sylpheed or Thunar logos for example
>> > (just three examples). They are completely different from the original
>> > logo. You kinda damage the recognizability and identity with that.
>> >
>> > And that's what I do not like. I would like the application to have
>> > their original logos.
>> >
>> > Regards
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Re: How to retain native application icons?

2014-06-15 Thread Rafael Laguna
The choose gnome icon theme. It retains "original logos". Or maybe their
icons don't resemble Windows enough and you think the folder will become
unrecognizable?

Don't speak about me. Let's look to ACYL icons, totally diferent. You
should thank to people like this author the time he spent on "modifying and
screwing up" the original logos just to bring users an homogeneous look for
their system, with no mixed balls, squares, triangles, romboids, and
infinite forms that, from a designer point of view, as mine, is a real and
complete shit.

And don't misunderstand me, I love Gnome icons and his creator, Jimmac, but
the purpose of an icon theme is make a pleasant and smooth visual
sensation. Don't give me lessons of design, I'm a designer and Box is a
concept (not a way of destructing logos) widely accepted. There's a thing
called "creative overall justification" or guidelines (did you read it
before using Box? I post these notes twice a year, on every Lubuntu
release: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Guidelines). Every design
has one to explain things, like why we enclose logos in squares or use
circles, or whatever.

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2014-06-15 17:13 GMT+02:00 John Niendorf :

> Well I am new to the list, but this strikes me as, well, silly.
> Is the debate really over how someone chooses to display an icon on
> their system?
> If you like the "default" icons or are afraid of violating a trademark
> then by all means feel free to use whatever icon came with the
> software...as for me I prefer icons that match my theme...
>
> John
>
> On 06/15/2014 04:29 PM, N. W. wrote:
>
> > well, I think customizing icons is a fine thing, as long as you only
> > customize things like folder icons or some arrows or buttons or
> > something like that.
> >
> > But logos? No, I think that's wrong.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Because logos are "trademarks". The app developers probably put a lot
> > of thought and work into making their logos and they probably were
> > striving for recognizability and identiy and so on.
> >
> > Now, look at your Audacious or Sylpheed or Thunar logos for example
> > (just three examples). They are completely different from the original
> > logo. You kinda damage the recognizability and identity with that.
> >
> > And that's what I do not like. I would like the application to have
> > their original logos.
> >
> > Regards
> >
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Re: How to retain native application icons?

2014-06-15 Thread Rafael Laguna
I think I understand you. Windows and OSX don't use icon themes, they can't
change the way they look. Every app must install its own icon in its own
folder (very messy). But that's not the way Linux works. Linux can't work
without one (at least) icon theme. Every icon theme tries to customize the
logos, some are really different, and some use the closer designs.

You have to get used to this, because it's the way Linux is designed. You
can read about searching XDG or FreeDesktop Linux desktop metaphors. But
what I don't really understand is that we, as Linux users, can change
radically the imposed icons from the aps and choose our owns, so more
freedom and customization, and you don't like it. It surprises me a lot :)


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2014-06-14 1:09 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Hello,
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > My question now is, how do you plan to restore the /usr/share/icons
>
> maybe I should have been a bit more clear about this:
>
> Deleting the entire" /usr/share/icons" folder was merely an experiment
> with a live system of Lubuntu 14.04 LTS inside a virtual machine.
>
> So, all fine ;).
>
> I just wanted to see what's happening when doing that ;).
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > What you suggest is impossible in Linux (with an XDG desktop
> > metaphor). You want to use the original icon designs while using only
> > the mimetypes of Box. Or do you want to erase the action, panel and
> > other GUI features of your desktop? That's a really bad idea.
> > If you dislike the Box icons design you should look for another theme
> > that suits you.
>
> I am not sure, but maybe you didn't understand what I mean.
>
> Other icon themes, like Faenza or elementary for example, also do have
> non-native application icons. So, switching to another icon theme would
> not necessarily help me.
>
> Let's take Firefox as an example again. Firefox has it's own icon, made
> by (I assume) Mozilla. The Firefox logo.
>
> When using Firefox on Microsoft Windows, Windows is always using the
> native/original/offical Firefox logo as icon. Everywhere.
>
> However, when using Firefox on Lununtu 14.04 for example, Lubuntu is
> using the Firefox logo from the Box icon theme, which has been made by
> you, which is not the original Firefox logo.
>
> The same goes for the Faenza icon theme. Faenza also has a different
> Firefox logo.
>
> Another example would be Audacious. Your Audacious logo (from Lubuntu
> Box icon theme) looks completely different compared to the
> native/original/official Audacious logo.
>
> Other examples would be Sylpheed or LibreOffice and so on. When using
> the Box icon theme, the user is seeing logos made by you (Rafael
> Laguna), and not the original/official/native logos made by the
> application developers.
>
> I do not say that your logos look bad. I just want to explain to you
> what I mean.
>
> I would like to know what I can do to make the applications show up
> with their native/official/original logo instead of your logos.
>
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Re: How to retain native application icons?

2014-06-13 Thread Rafael Laguna
What you suggest is impossible in Linux (with an XDG desktop metaphor). You
want to use the original icon designs while using only the mimetypes of
Box. Or do you want to erase the action, panel and other GUI features of
your desktop? That's a really bad idea. If you dislike the Box icons design
you should look for another theme that suits you.

Also, deleting (with superuser permissions) things in the /usr/share/icons
may left unstable some programs that look for them. And yes, some apps like
Firefox, PCManFM and others have their own original icons in the app
itself. But, removing others may cause unexpected effects. I'm surprised
you can run everything, or that you don't confuse items on menus, dialogs,
and so.

My question now is, how do you plan to restore the /usr/share/icons which,
in fact, isn't the only folder used by Lubuntu theme, but for other
applications? Try GiMP, Anjuta or any other complex UI now you've deleted
that, and you may not work anymore with them.

Trust me, don't delete system folders. If you want to use another theme,
download one (www.gnome-look.org).



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2014-06-13 18:50 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Dear Lubuntu Artwork developer(s),
>
> what if someone wants to use the Box icon theme, but at the same time
> wants all applications to use their native application icons?
>
> With native application icons I mean: Firefox for example has it's own
> native icon, but it is overwritten by the Box icon theme Firefox icon.
>
> What's the best approach to do that?
>
> Would it be deleting the "/usr/share/icons/lubuntu/apps" folder?
>
> Or how should it be done? Or is there a setting to toggle this?
>
> And something else:
>
> I just tried something with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" inside a
> virtual machine:
>
> I deleted the entire "/usr/share/icons" folder.
>
> This is what I noticed after doing that:
>
> First of all: When browsing in PCManFM, there still was a folder icon
> showing up.
>
> It was a yellow folder icon which looked very similar to the folder
> icon that is being used in Microsoft Windows 7:
>
>
> http://www.sevenforums.com/geek/gars/images/4/7/types/thumb_Yellow_Folder.png
>
> Where does it come from? I mean, I deleted the entire
> "/usr/share/icons" folder...
>
> I also noticed that, even though I had deleted the entire
> "/usr/share/icons" folder, Firefox still had it's native application
> icon available. As well as Sylpheed and some others. I assume this is
> normal because they come with their own icon "built-in"?
>
> However, Audacious for examle did not have an application icon
> available. Why not?
>
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Re: [PCManFM] Automatic samba share refresh

2014-06-11 Thread Rafael Laguna
I think it's not a problem of PCManFM. I have this issue when I mount my
phone using Thunar. Maybe it's an issue of gvfs, and sure it can be changed
the refresh value.

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2014-06-11 12:59 GMT+02:00 Emiliano Vazquez :

> Hi again.
>
> Is there any way to get a refresh of a network folder every time?
>
> I have a network share over samba and this share is in my lubuntu fstab
> and is starting at boot time. Everything looks good but when i put a file
> in this folder my machine don't see the new file/folder until i refresh
> this.
>
> Best regards.
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Re: Why is lubuntu-artwork not being updated in Trusty?

2014-06-10 Thread Rafael Laguna
We make things for a reason. When we create new icons, themes, apps or
whatever, they are intended to be part of the system you have on your home.
But sometimes we need to experiment, or make tests, or just ensure what we
do does not affect a massive amount of computers.

Box is part of Lubuntu, yes. But it's a standalone theme too, if you use
another Linux distro. Also, I add lots of new icons and make changes in the
GTK theme. Imagine the situation that I modify something that breaks the
system on thousands of computers (it happened, trust me). Before we push
the changes onto Ubuntu's main repos we have to be really really sure it
works as expected.

That's the reason I have a separate PPA for artwork. The same about the
staging apps. When you download a system you expect it keeps stable and not
changing daily. And we're Artwork Team. We cannot login in Canonical's
servers everyday and say "hey, I'm going to change some stuff, so your ISOs
may change size and stability and package dependencies". There's a complex
structure and there're protocols in the way we work.


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2014-06-10 17:44 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Hello,
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > Its' normal that an independent
> > development (the Unified Box for Linux) goes further than
> > the official updates (the Ubuntu repositories).
>
> I do not consider lubuntu-artwork to be independent from Lubuntu. When
> I install Lubuntu, I want to receive updates to lubuntu-artwork (and by
> default and automatically). Lubuntu ships with lubuntu-artwork by
> default, so why shouldn't I receive updates for lubuntu-artwork by
> default? Why do I have to search and add a PPA?
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > The version updated is 0.47 and you'll receive that
> > version via the Artwork Daily PPA.
>
> That does not answer my question. Why do I have to add this PPA to a
> Lubuntu installation? Why isn't it added by default or why isn't
> lubuntu-artwork receiving updates by default (without having to add
> this PPA)?
>
> We're not talking about a third party GTK+ / icon theme here. We're
> talking about the Box icon theme / Box GTK+ theme, the official theme
> of an offical Ubuntu spin. I consider this to be quite a difference.
>
> By the way:
>
> I also do not understand why I have to search for and have to add a PPA
> to receive those updates:
>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2014-May/007478.html
> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/staging
>
> Why can't this just be added to Lubuntu by default?
>
> If you ask me, you really should release a new ISO with those things
> being added / updating by default ASAP.
>
> Just saying...
>
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Re: Why is lubuntu-artwork not being updated in Trusty?

2014-06-10 Thread Rafael Laguna
Actually the current version of Lubuntu Artwork is 0.47 but it depends on
PPAs updates. Its' normal that an independent development (the Unified Box
for Linux) goes further than the official updates (the Ubuntu
repositories). Look here:

https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art/lubuntu-artwork/quantal

The version updated is 0.47 and you'll receive that version via the Artwork
Daily PPA.


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2014-06-10 16:06 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Dear Lubuntu Artwork developer(s),
>
> why is lubuntu-artwork not being updated in Trusty?
>
> According to this blog post:
>
> http://lubuntublog.blogspot.de/2014/05/box-046.html
>
> and also according to:
>
> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art/+archive/daily
>
> it has been upgraded from 0.45. But in Trusty it's still at 0.45:
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lubuntu-artwork
>
> Why is that?
>
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Re: sources.list problem

2014-06-09 Thread Rafael Laguna
You're welcomed! ;)

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2014-06-09 22:46 GMT+02:00 :

> Hi Rafael!
>
> Thanks a lot, your suggestion worked!!!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Rafael Laguna:
> > Try:
> >
> > sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
> > sudo apt-get update
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > 2014-06-09 9:32 GMT+02:00 :
> >
> >> I always had in my sources.list the ubuntu extras section
> >>
> >> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
> >>
> >> Now, since recent it creates trouble:
> >>
> >> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
> >> E: Problem with MergeList
> >>
> >>
> /var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
> >> E: Die Liste der Paketquellen oder die Status-Datei konnten nicht
> >> geöffnet werden.
> >> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
> >>
> >> is the error msg opening synaptic - before it closes without doing
> >> anything (same happens in a terminal with apt-get update &&
> dist-upgrade).
> >>
> >> Any ideas in regard?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot in advance.
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Re: sources.list problem

2014-06-09 Thread Rafael Laguna
Try:

sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
sudo apt-get update


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2014-06-09 9:32 GMT+02:00 :

> I always had in my sources.list the ubuntu extras section
>
> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
>
> Now, since recent it creates trouble:
>
> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
> E: Problem with MergeList
>
> /var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
> E: Die Liste der Paketquellen oder die Status-Datei konnten nicht
> geöffnet werden.
> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
>
> is the error msg opening synaptic - before it closes without doing
> anything (same happens in a terminal with apt-get update && dist-upgrade).
>
> Any ideas in regard?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance.
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Re: Box icon theme for Claws Mail and Sylpheed?

2014-05-31 Thread Rafael Laguna
Who knows, maybe if I have time... ;)

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2014-05-31 21:15 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Hey Rafael,
>
> the Claws Mail developers replied, see:
>
> >
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3197#c1
> >
> > Paul wrote:
> >
> > One point they fail to see is that the stock GTK+ icons do not cover
> > what we need and use in Claws Mail.
> >
> > This item would have been better suited to a mailing list discussion,
> > in my opinion. But now we're here, and just for the record...
> >
> > Where Raphael Laguna says, "In fact, Sylpheed-Claws was already a fork,
> > and then its development stopped and reborn as Claws Mail, that was
> > another fork.", he is, in fact, wrong. Sylpheed-Claws was not a fork.
> > Development never stopped. Claws Mail forked when we ceased working
> > with Sylpheed and took our course.
>
> ;)
>
> So, any chance you could do a Box icon theme for Claws Mail and Sylpheed
> and maybe even an application icon for Claws Mail?
>
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Re: Lubuntu 14.10 and after

2014-05-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
You are right about it. We realized that our desktop concept was exactly
the same as theirs. The overall look is the same, that "old" desktop
metaphor based on CDE standards (just like Windows or LXDE) using an icon
grid and a panel. And remember the libraries. At this moment we use too
many widget libraries. Extra and unuseful effort.

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2014-05-30 18:29 GMT+02:00 Dale Visser :

>  I think the two projects (LXDE and RazorQt) simply found common goals,
> philosophy and duplication of effort. I imagine they figured everybody
> working on the same thing would produce better results overall. Lubuntu
> devs don't gave much choice other than forking LXDE, which would be taking
> on more work than they want, I'm sure.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
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> Sent: ‎5/‎30/‎2014 12:02 PM
> To: lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Lubuntu 14.10 and after
>
>
> On 05/30/2014 06:52 AM, N. W. wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >> Julien Lavergne wrote:
> >>
> >> [...] - After the LXQt migration, we have to change most of our
> >> applications to have Qt ones. It needs time to discuss, compare, test
> >> and integrate them. We have to change 80 to 90 % of our seed … [...]
> > may I ask why that is?
> >
> > Why do you have to replace GTK+ applications with Qt applications when
> > going from LXDE to LXQt?
> >
> > Why would it be bad to use GTK+ applications on LXQt?
> >
> > I mean, with what application do you want to replace Sylpheed (or Claws
> > Mail) for example?
> >
> > With KMail? Or with Trojitá? Not sure if those can replace Sylpheed (or
> > Claws Mail)?
> >
> > Just an example.
> >
> > Regards
> >
>
> So we wont have a choice after 14.04 which I just upgraded to, we will
> all be forced to QT based apps?
>
> qt is what, KDE base apps right? all of KDE uses QT right?
>
> I dont understand why they're forcing us to move over? Whats so ground
> breaking about LXQT than what were using now LXDE?
>
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Re: Lubuntu 14.10 and after

2014-05-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
KDE uses QT, but it's not QT. UbuntuOne, or many other apps, used QT and
nobody noticed it. We're not forced, really. Other environments will remain
in GTK. But not LXDE. Have in mind that QT is faster than GTK, modern and
it's Desktop independent, unlike GTK, that depends heavily on GNOME.

Trust me, you will continue using your desktop and, thanks to the Artwork
Team, you will feel as comfortable on it like with current GTK one. Don't
expect big aesthetic changes, or big core changes. And we are not going to
replace everything in a moment. And I'd like to say you that everything we
make is for good of this Operating System, so we'd never considered this if
if wasn't useful.


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2014-05-30 18:01 GMT+02:00 c. marlow :

>
> On 05/30/2014 06:52 AM, N. W. wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>>
>>> [...] - After the LXQt migration, we have to change most of our
>>> applications to have Qt ones. It needs time to discuss, compare, test
>>> and integrate them. We have to change 80 to 90 % of our seed … [...]
>>>
>> may I ask why that is?
>>
>> Why do you have to replace GTK+ applications with Qt applications when
>> going from LXDE to LXQt?
>>
>> Why would it be bad to use GTK+ applications on LXQt?
>>
>> I mean, with what application do you want to replace Sylpheed (or Claws
>> Mail) for example?
>>
>> With KMail? Or with Trojitá? Not sure if those can replace Sylpheed (or
>> Claws Mail)?
>>
>> Just an example.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
> So we wont have a choice after 14.04 which I just upgraded to, we will all
> be forced to QT based apps?
>
> qt is what, KDE base apps right? all of KDE uses QT right?
>
> I dont understand why they're forcing us to move over? Whats so ground
> breaking about LXQT than what were using now LXDE?
>
> Christopher
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Re: Box icon theme for Claws Mail and Sylpheed?

2014-05-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
In fact, Sylpheed-Claws was already a fork, and then its development
stopped and reborn as Claws Mail, that was another fork. But it does not
make it less suitable for use :)

About the standard theme, it's a bit stupid. There're name conventions for
every action in the desktop. Mail apps are fully covered. You just need to
see Evolution in action. It has a lot  of icons and all of them are taken
from your gtk theme.

But don't worry, we'll post any vote or decision here, because we all are
the community and we all have voice.

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2014-05-30 17:20 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Hello,
>
> thanks for the fast response.
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > [...] We already voted about a change of the default mail client. [...]
>
> If available, could you please provide a link to that vote / poll?
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > [...] Claws is a fork of a fork [...]
>
> Not sure if that is the correct terminology?
>
> As far as I know Claws Mail is a fork of Sylpheed.
>
> Claws Mail initially was called "Sylpheed-Claws" and later renamed to
> "Claws Mail".
>
> Which is a change of a name, not a fork. Which makes Claws Mail a fork,
> but not a fork of a fork.
>
> Not entirely sure about that though.
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > [...] but we need to consider lots of things to include it in Lubuntu
> > (easyness of use, look, continuity, accessible community, active
> > development, etc) [...]
>
> Again, not entirely sure, but, at least to me it looks like as if the
> development of Claws Mail is a lot healthier / more active than the
> development of Sylpheed.
>
> > Rafael Laguna wrote:
> >
> > [...] You know what? Sylpheed is not using any compatible icon theme, it
> uses its
> > own, and that's awful. Also Claws, that is able to change themes but
> > doesn't care of your favourite themes installed in your .icons folder. So
> > what for theming if they both are unable to be standard enough?
> >
> > Firefox can use themes, personas, change icons or just respect the theme
> > you're using. That's what a GTK app does.
>
> I had a quick look at the Claws Mail bug tracker and found those comments:
>
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2321#c2
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3066#c4
>
> Sounds like they are saying that they are doing their own icon theme(s)
> for Claws Mail because the standard GNOME icons do not offer enough icons
> to cover all icons necessary for Claws Mail?
>
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Re: Lubuntu 14.10 and after

2014-05-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
We don't know yet. We have to decline using GTK libraries with time,
because we cannot keep two widget sets in a single ISO. Also, the only way
to get a desktop homogeneous is to keep all the widgets calling for the
same graphics.

Look, right now we're using gtk3, gtk2, tk, plainX and qt. It doesn't make
any sense, right? Also, gtk4 is coming too aside gtk3. Imagine the chaos
its coming to some Linux desktops. Ubuntu is going to that technology (qt5)
and Lubuntu is using its core and apps. It's logical to improve, not to
make our systems a mess (and not talking about the hell it will be for us,
the designers).

The app polling will be in a few time. The community will vote and we'll
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2014-05-30 13:52 GMT+02:00 N. W. :

> Hello,
>
> > Julien Lavergne wrote:
> >
> > [...] - After the LXQt migration, we have to change most of our
> > applications to have Qt ones. It needs time to discuss, compare, test
> > and integrate them. We have to change 80 to 90 % of our seed … [...]
>
> may I ask why that is?
>
> Why do you have to replace GTK+ applications with Qt applications when
> going from LXDE to LXQt?
>
> Why would it be bad to use GTK+ applications on LXQt?
>
> I mean, with what application do you want to replace Sylpheed (or Claws
> Mail) for example?
>
> With KMail? Or with Trojitá? Not sure if those can replace Sylpheed (or
> Claws Mail)?
>
> Just an example.
>
> Regards
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Re: Box icon theme for Claws Mail and Sylpheed?

2014-05-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
We already voted about a change of the default mail client. In fact, I
proposed Claws, but have in consideration that Claws is a fork of a fork,
so deep that we barely can't follow their packages evolution. We could use
it, but we need to consider lots of things to include it in Lubuntu
(easyness of use, look, continuity, accessible community, active
development, etc),

You know what? Sylpheed is not using any compatible icon theme, it uses its
own, and that's awful. Also Claws, that is able to change themes but
doesn't care of your favourite themes installed in your .icons folder. So
what for theming if they both are unable to be standard enough?

Firefox can use themes, personas, change icons or just respect the theme
you're using. That's what a GTK app does.
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Re: Box icons

2014-05-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
Obviously it's a GTK3 error. GTK2 can't use CSS styles for rounded corners.
And it seems that your compiled version of Synaptic is not using well the
theme engine. Try to test with another (recent) GTK3 theme like ZukiTwo.
Probably you'll see the same errors.

Anyway, this doesn't happen on AMD64 or x86 machines (where I have tested).


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2014-05-30 9:20 GMT+02:00 :

> Am 30.05.2014 03:54, schrieb lubuntu-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com:
>
>
>  Hi,
>> I have noticed those errors also.  I wonder if this is related to GTK2
>> and GTK3?  Some of those programs might be GTK2 and some of the things
>> are not supported quite as well since GTK3 is where things are going...
>> just a thought.
>>
>
> I'm pretty sure you're right. I remember a very similar problem a year ago
> (or so) with the standard crunchbang waldorf theme. For what i remember,
> there was something *IN* the theme which was not gtk3 compatible.
>
> But, may be in this case it is a ppc related problem (?) ...
>
> Cheers.
>
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Re: Lubuntu dark panel icons do not show up in LXQt

2014-05-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
Because there's no theme for LXQT yet. The theming engine and they way it
uses icons is not fully XDG compatible. but it's being fixed, so I'll work
on it once it become standard.


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2014-05-30 6:05 GMT+02:00 brendanperrine :

>
> I have a working LXQt thing but the icons not showing up is more of an
> artwork issue is that the Lubuntu dark panel icon theme is not really
> working in LXQt for testing it out and does not show LXQt system settings.
> Does anyone else experience this? Not sure if this is an upstream LXQt
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Re: Box icons

2014-05-28 Thread Rafael Laguna
That's the spirit. But despite the years, I'm still learning after all
these years. And helping people is more like a gift in reward.

Hugs, buddy!

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2014-05-28 14:47 GMT+02:00 Israel :

>  I like the Lubuntu community very much!
> Many people helped me when I first started using Lubuntu, and GNU/Linux in
> general.
> I try to help people, even if I do not know all the answers, but there is
> always more to learn.
> It is much more pleasant for people to be loving, rather than irritated :D
>
>
>
> On 05/28/2014 04:37 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>
>  Thank you, Israel, and thank you very much for helping people too! ;)
>
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> 2014-05-28 5:56 GMT+02:00 Israel :
>
>> Hey Rafael, these new ones look awesome!!!  You are a great artist!!
>> I will have to check these out, though I can't use a PPA on iBook :(
>> Thanks for your hard work!!
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Re: Box icons

2014-05-28 Thread Rafael Laguna
Thank you, Israel, and thank you very much for helping people too! ;)

I love to do things and see how kindly you get them.

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2014-05-28 5:56 GMT+02:00 Israel :

> Hey Rafael, these new ones look awesome!!!  You are a great artist!!
> I will have to check these out, though I can't use a PPA on iBook :(
> Thanks for your hard work!!
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Re: Grub2 theme in the spirit of Lubuntu?

2014-05-26 Thread Rafael Laguna
If you need the source (SVG) of any resource just tell me.

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2014-05-26 19:58 GMT+02:00 John Hupp :

>  Thanks, Phill, I found just what I needed for an icon on the Artwork
> home page (in the form of picto_welcome.png).
>
>
> On 5/23/2014 4:21 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> There is a lot of artwork at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork If
> you need something more specific, have a chat with Rafael (TL of Lubuntu
> artwork team).  (He's the guy with the Japanese name) :P
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Phill.
>
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2014 19:24, John Hupp  wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/2014 5:37 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/10/2014 03:20 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a ready-made Grub2 theme that is not heavy and that
>>>> accords decently with the Lubuntu design?  I'm dual-booting Windows and
>>>> Lubuntu and looking for something dressier than the default black-and-white
>>>> menu.
>>>>
>>>> And I use the word "theme" advisedly.  I don't mean merely adding a
>>>> background image and font colors (though I'll probably do that if I don't
>>>> find a not-too-difficult theme solution).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  John:
>>>
>>> I applaud your idea.
>>>
>>> I think, if it did nothing else, that it should indicate "Lubuntu"
>>> instead of "Ubuntu".  I have a lot of partitions on my machines, and it
>>> would be helpful to know which is which.
>>>
>>> Linux Mint seems to be able to do it, as does openSUSE.  I would like it
>>> if each Ubuntu variant identified itself in the GRUB menu.
>>>
>>> I noticed that the LXLE spin-off of Lubuntu 12.04 has a GRUB background
>>> picture (which I like), though it makes the text hard to read (except for
>>> the selected item).
>>>
>>>
>> I'm working on a theme now.  Is there a Lubuntu icon file that I can grab
>> somewhere?
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Re: Grub2 theme in the spirit of Lubuntu?

2014-05-23 Thread Rafael Laguna
Agree. But just one thing to keep in mind: Ubuntu itself hasn't themed
grub2. The normal screen is like this: http://i.imgur.com/95sPGMI.png
When you're talking about a more "complete" theme, do you mean something
like this? http://i.imgur.com/Mj6fe6U.png

I'm sure you know you can customize (on any Ubuntu flavour) the grub, grub2
or burg entries and theme it a bit with Grub Customizer:
http://goo.gl/Pmj9qH

Anyway, I was having a look to the wiki docs:

grub2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
grub2 (displays): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays

I don't say theming grub2 for Lubuntu is a bad idea. I'm considering that,
if there's no Ubuntu flavour customized, why should we? But I insist, if
you all (the Community) consider it's a "must-have", I'll be glad to work
on it.

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2014-05-23 22:21 GMT+02:00 Phill Whiteside :

> There is a lot of artwork at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork If
> you need something more specific, have a chat with Rafael (TL of Lubuntu
> artwork team).  (He's the guy with the Japanese name) :P
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2014 19:24, John Hupp  wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/2014 5:37 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/10/2014 03:20 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a ready-made Grub2 theme that is not heavy and that
>>>> accords decently with the Lubuntu design?  I'm dual-booting Windows and
>>>> Lubuntu and looking for something dressier than the default black-and-white
>>>> menu.
>>>>
>>>> And I use the word "theme" advisedly.  I don't mean merely adding a
>>>> background image and font colors (though I'll probably do that if I don't
>>>> find a not-too-difficult theme solution).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  John:
>>>
>>> I applaud your idea.
>>>
>>> I think, if it did nothing else, that it should indicate "Lubuntu"
>>> instead of "Ubuntu".  I have a lot of partitions on my machines, and it
>>> would be helpful to know which is which.
>>>
>>> Linux Mint seems to be able to do it, as does openSUSE.  I would like it
>>> if each Ubuntu variant identified itself in the GRUB menu.
>>>
>>> I noticed that the LXLE spin-off of Lubuntu 12.04 has a GRUB background
>>> picture (which I like), though it makes the text hard to read (except for
>>> the selected item).
>>>
>>>
>> I'm working on a theme now.  Is there a Lubuntu icon file that I can grab
>> somewhere?
>>
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Re: Side pane toggle in pcmanfm-qt not possible?

2014-05-11 Thread Rafael Laguna
I'm I read out there that PCMan is implementing all the functions from the
gtk version. So yes, it will have all its features. Correct me if I'm
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2014-05-11 18:06 GMT+02:00 Hitesh Shah :

>
> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 8:19 PM, brendanperrine wrote:
>
>> ...
>
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>>  Hitesh shah: one new feature of pcmanfm 1.2.0 is that it has a twin pane
>> view you can activate this mode by hitting f3 so you do not need two
>> different file managers open. This might be a better way to do this. I
>> don't think it was removed on purpose but just the developers don't have
>> unlimited time to get everything done.
>> Also the key for hiding side panel is f9.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing out the twin pane view. I'm sure I'll use it in
> future. And, yes, I understand about the devs.
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Re: pcmanfm does not accept/recognize anymore external devices or partitions

2014-05-09 Thread Rafael Laguna
This happened to me with Ubuntu too, a few years ago. It seems that Windows
(or my TV) don't care about permissions. The only solution I found was
remove and re-create the partition with Disks, as a normal user. Be sure to
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2014-05-09 21:52 GMT+02:00 :

> Since very recent, on a powerbook, pcmanfm does not open anymore external
> usb sticks. It sees them but when i try to open i'm getting:
>
> Not authorized to perform operation
>
> The same happens, when i try to open the bootstrap partition.
>
> I'm even unable to do this if starting pcmanfm as root or by gksudo.
> Before this was possible without any problem.
>
> Moreover, pcmanfm doesn't mount audio cd's. I'm not sure if this is also
> recent or not, since i didn't try it before. The error msg in any case is
> different:
>
> Ort kann nicht eingehängt werden (= Cannot mount device)
>
> Where can i check to repair this?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
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Re: After Firefox update black and grey bar instead of text in addres bar

2014-05-06 Thread Rafael Laguna
Because that panel isn't Gnome's, even when they look the same. 
But OSes are not intended to release a thousand themes to please everybody. It's like trying to please all with food, music or sex. I can tell it, people asked me for 8 different combinations of Box theme for Lubuntu. And if possible 14 icon colours variations. 
I'll be happy if only main theme works as expected, and I'm doing my best, trust me. 
And I love cynicism, it's the salt of life ;) 
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On Aere Greenway , May 6, 2014 11:45 PM wrote:
  
  
Israel:
  
  Thank you for the additional viewpoints you took the time to point
  out.  
  
  They are all valid.  
  
  I have tended to become cynical, seeing the amazing variety of
  choices of color-schemes (two) available in Ubuntu Unity, and no
  longer being able to put useful applets in the task-bar (a Gnome
  thing, I think).  
  
  Anyway, I should restrain my cynicism.  
  
  - Aere
  
  
  On 05/06/2014 11:31 AM, Israel wrote:


  
  On 05/06/2014 12:15 PM, Hitesh Shah
wrote:
  
  

  

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:36 PM,
  Aere Greenway <a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>
  wrote:
  

  ...
Given how strongly Ubuntu is marching away from
customization, your problem may not be related to
customization, but something else.  
  

  

Lubuntu != Ubuntu although lxsession is getting to be a bit
mysterious ...

  
  It seems that a subset of Lubuntu
users are facing the issue. I have Firefox 29 direct from
Mozilla, not the Canonical version, and don't see the
problem: Dell 1545 Inspiron laptop, integrated graphics
(Intel).
  




  
  Hi Aere,
  
  To be honest I wouldn't say Ubuntu is capable of 'marching away
  from customization'.
  The only move the Unity desktop has made away from customization
  this release is the placement of the window buttons, but this is
  because they added a feature users have been requesting for a long
  time the menu bar back in the windows.  You can still theme
  and customize Unity in the same ways as before, minus the buttons
  being on the right hand side.
  Of course you can customize it completely in every aspect by
  installing from the mini iso, and only installing the packages you
  want.  You can even install a DE or WM and customize it.
  If you want full control of customization it is available.
  You are still not able to move the launcher panel, but this
  feature hasn't been available before.  But there are more options
  to customize the setup than there were, such as the launcher's
  size.
  So, I only can see 1 less option, and at very least 2 more
  options.
  This release has shown that they are listening to the community
  (they even re-added click the launcher to minimize... though you
  need ccsm)
  
  The removal of color customization in Lubuntu is a bug, not a
  design feature, and I think Rafael is sleuthing to find the root
  cause of this regression.
  
  
  Also, I have not seen the black bar issue yet on the machines I am
  using.  I do like that Firefox has finally caught up with
  Thunderbird's UI.
  
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Re: After Firefox update black and grey bar instead of text in addres bar

2014-05-06 Thread Rafael Laguna
Neither do I with AMD k7 with nVidia proprietary drivers.

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2014-05-06 15:53 GMT+02:00 John Hupp :

> On 5/5/2014 10:09 PM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
>
>> Message-ID:
>> 
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>>
>> The bug report is here:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1316250
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>> Yes. Noticed this bug about a week ago. I like the new look of Firefox 29,
>> but this just spoils it. Ran all updates in Lubuntu 14.04 on several
>> different machines (Dell Dimension 2400, Dell OptiPlex GX520, HP d220 MT)
>> and Firefox has the exact problem described in the bug.
>>
>> I attempted to fix with different fonts, toggling settings in about:config
>> (browser.urlbar.trimURLs and browser.urlbar.formatting.enabled),
>> modifying
>> userChrome-example.css - the only thing I've found so far that is
>> guaranteed
>> to work is not updating Firefox to 29.
>>
>> I am successfully running Firefox 28 (with no black and gray bar) on four
>> other Lubuntu 14.04 machines; an HP Pavilion Slimline s3707c, a Toshiba
>> Satellite P3050, HP Pavilion f1703 and a Dell Dimension 8300.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
> I do not have the problem on a Lenovo 3000 C200 running Lubuntu 14.04
> 32-bit/Firefox 29.
>
> It has an Intel T2080 dual-core processor and Intel Mobile 945GM Express
> Chipset video controller.
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Re: Lubuntu 14.04 Ignores User Color-Customization

2014-05-04 Thread Rafael Laguna
I'm afraid yes. The theme I designed for Lubuntu, the default (called Box)
is fully customizable. I added that feature after users requests. But now
it's no working on ANY theme.

When a desktop starts, there's a daemon that reads the themes, colurs,
fonts, key bindings, etc. And for an unknown reason, Lubuntu loads the
theme and locks it. Even if you make a theme "customizable" (all are in
some ways) you won't notice the colour changes. It loads as is.

In Lubuntu, this startup function is managed by a package called
"lxsession". And I'm pretty sure it's the "guilty".


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2014-05-04 21:39 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :

>  Rafael:
>
> It would be good to have all of the relevant information initially within
> the bug-report.
>
> I will wait to submit it until you report back on what you find out in
> your additional tests.
>
> I think you are saying that the customization wouldn't work in Lubuntu
> even if I developed a custom theme (per Nio's suggestion).
>
> - Aere
>
>
>
> On 05/04/2014 05:55 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>
>  The problem here aren't the themes, is the XSettings daemon. Each
> environment has its own: XFCE has xfce4-settings-manager, Gnome has
> gnome-settings-daemon, etc.
>
>  The package you're looking for is lxsession. LXDE has a standalone
> version of the daemon, called lxsession-daemon which loads independent
> config files. I need to do more tests to see if this is working.
>
>  But I insist, this "bug" is not theme related.
>
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>
> 2014-05-04 5:11 GMT+02:00 Israel :
>
>>   On 05/03/2014 08:03 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>
>> On 05/03/2014 06:48 PM, Israel wrote:
>>
>> On 05/03/2014 07:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>
>> Rafael:
>>
>> I will report it as a bug.  What package should it be reported against?
>>
>> Unfortunately, it appears to be one more step down the Ubuntu road of
>> taking away customization.  So I'm doubtful anything will come of it.  But
>> it means a lot to me, so I will report it, nevertheless.
>>
>> It may well be the end of color customization.
>>
>> - Aere
>>
>>
>> On 05/03/2014 05:33 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>>
>>  More clues. I've tested on a few environments.
>>
>>  1. Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2 nor gtk3.
>> 2. XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config) DOES colorize only gtk2
>> (pretty normal, as usually gtk3 is not able to do this)
>> 3. Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes gtk2 apps (I insist, gtk3 apps
>> cannot be colorized as is, they need to be tweaked via .gtk-3.0 RC).
>> 4. Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore.
>>
>>  So, as colorization works in every environment as eexpected, the
>> problem is ours. But themes react fine in other desktops, so there's no
>> problem at all on engines or themes RC files.
>>
>>  So, once tested all steps, there's only one left: the LXDE session
>> settings daemon. Shall we declare it as a bug?
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> 2014-05-04 0:23 GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna :
>>
>>>  Yes, I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental Box, or even
>>> Adwaita. Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and they seem to be un-colorizable
>>> too. Something's happening to the Desktop Settings daemon. It's not theme
>>> or engine related. It also affects GTK3.
>>>
>>>  Let me try more tests on other environments and I hope to have an
>>> answer or, at least, a clue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-03 22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :
>>>
>>>  All:
>>>>
>>>> I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04 which (to me) is a
>>>> show-stopper.  I'm sure it isn't as important to others.
>>>>
>>>> I have my own peculiar style of customized colors.  One of the main
>>>> reasons my primary system uses Lubuntu is because of the
>>>> color-customization, which retains the ease-of-use that was present in
>>>> Ubuntu 11.04.
>>>>
>>>> I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which the colors worked fine.
>>>> After the upgrade to 14.04, the color customization does not appear in any
>>>> windows I have tried (and I have tried a lot of them).
>>>>
>>>> Ev

Re: Lubuntu 14.04 Ignores User Color-Customization

2014-05-04 Thread Rafael Laguna
The problem here aren't the themes, is the XSettings daemon. Each
environment has its own: XFCE has xfce4-settings-manager, Gnome has
gnome-settings-daemon, etc.

The package you're looking for is lxsession. LXDE has a standalone version
of the daemon, called lxsession-daemon which loads independent config
files. I need to do more tests to see if this is working.

But I insist, this "bug" is not theme related.


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2014-05-04 5:11 GMT+02:00 Israel :

>  On 05/03/2014 08:03 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>
> On 05/03/2014 06:48 PM, Israel wrote:
>
> On 05/03/2014 07:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>
> Rafael:
>
> I will report it as a bug.  What package should it be reported against?
>
> Unfortunately, it appears to be one more step down the Ubuntu road of
> taking away customization.  So I'm doubtful anything will come of it.  But
> it means a lot to me, so I will report it, nevertheless.
>
> It may well be the end of color customization.
>
> - Aere
>
>
> On 05/03/2014 05:33 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>
>  More clues. I've tested on a few environments.
>
>  1. Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2 nor gtk3.
> 2. XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config) DOES colorize only gtk2 (pretty
> normal, as usually gtk3 is not able to do this)
> 3. Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes gtk2 apps (I insist, gtk3 apps
> cannot be colorized as is, they need to be tweaked via .gtk-3.0 RC).
> 4. Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore.
>
>  So, as colorization works in every environment as eexpected, the problem
> is ours. But themes react fine in other desktops, so there's no problem at
> all on engines or themes RC files.
>
>  So, once tested all steps, there's only one left: the LXDE session
> settings daemon. Shall we declare it as a bug?
>
>
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>
>
> 2014-05-04 0:23 GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna :
>
>>  Yes, I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental Box, or even
>> Adwaita. Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and they seem to be un-colorizable
>> too. Something's happening to the Desktop Settings daemon. It's not theme
>> or engine related. It also affects GTK3.
>>
>>  Let me try more tests on other environments and I hope to have an
>> answer or, at least, a clue.
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
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>> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-03 22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :
>>
>>  All:
>>>
>>> I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04 which (to me) is a
>>> show-stopper.  I'm sure it isn't as important to others.
>>>
>>> I have my own peculiar style of customized colors.  One of the main
>>> reasons my primary system uses Lubuntu is because of the
>>> color-customization, which retains the ease-of-use that was present in
>>> Ubuntu 11.04.
>>>
>>> I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which the colors worked fine.
>>> After the upgrade to 14.04, the color customization does not appear in any
>>> windows I have tried (and I have tried a lot of them).
>>>
>>> Even in the window where you change the appearance with custom colors,
>>> it shows that it remembers the colors I specified, but the specified colors
>>> are not used in the window in which I specify them.
>>>
>>> It appears that color-customization can be done in the preferences
>>> settings, but the color customization you specify is universally ignored.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any idea of how to make color-customization work in
>>> Lubuntu 14.04?
>>>
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>>> Aere
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>
>
>
>  Of course you can always make your own theme, so it will never be dead.
> I have made a few themes for the WM, and the panel is still customizable
> fortunately.
> @Aere, Rafael did say the bug was in lubuntu session settings daemon.
>
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>
>
>
>  Israel:
>
> Is there something in the repository you install to build your own theme?
> If so, what is the package name I should use (or search-for)?
>
> Using Synaptic Package Manager, searching for 'lubuntu', I do not see
> anything that resembles "lubuntu session settings daemon".  Do you know
> what the packag

Re: Lubuntu 14.04 Ignores User Color-Customization

2014-05-03 Thread Rafael Laguna
More clues. I've tested on a few environments.

1. Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2 nor gtk3.
2. XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config) DOES colorize only gtk2 (pretty
normal, as usually gtk3 is not able to do this)
3. Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes gtk2 apps (I insist, gtk3 apps
cannot be colorized as is, they need to be tweaked via .gtk-3.0 RC).
4. Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore.

So, as colorization works in every environment as eexpected, the problem is
ours. But themes react fine in other desktops, so there's no problem at all
on engines or themes RC files.

So, once tested all steps, there's only one left: the LXDE session settings
daemon. Shall we declare it as a bug?


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2014-05-04 0:23 GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna :

> Yes, I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental Box, or even Adwaita.
> Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and they seem to be un-colorizable too.
> Something's happening to the Desktop Settings daemon. It's not theme or
> engine related. It also affects GTK3.
>
> Let me try more tests on other environments and I hope to have an answer
> or, at least, a clue.
>
>
>
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>
> 2014-05-03 22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :
>
> All:
>>
>> I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04 which (to me) is a
>> show-stopper.  I'm sure it isn't as important to others.
>>
>> I have my own peculiar style of customized colors.  One of the main
>> reasons my primary system uses Lubuntu is because of the
>> color-customization, which retains the ease-of-use that was present in
>> Ubuntu 11.04.
>>
>> I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which the colors worked fine. After
>> the upgrade to 14.04, the color customization does not appear in any
>> windows I have tried (and I have tried a lot of them).
>>
>> Even in the window where you change the appearance with custom colors, it
>> shows that it remembers the colors I specified, but the specified colors
>> are not used in the window in which I specify them.
>>
>> It appears that color-customization can be done in the preferences
>> settings, but the color customization you specify is universally ignored.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea of how to make color-customization work in
>> Lubuntu 14.04?
>>
>> --
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>> Aere
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Re: Lubuntu 14.04 Ignores User Color-Customization

2014-05-03 Thread Rafael Laguna
Yes, I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental Box, or even Adwaita.
Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and they seem to be un-colorizable too.
Something's happening to the Desktop Settings daemon. It's not theme or
engine related. It also affects GTK3.

Let me try more tests on other environments and I hope to have an answer
or, at least, a clue.



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2014-05-03 22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway :

> All:
>
> I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04 which (to me) is a
> show-stopper.  I'm sure it isn't as important to others.
>
> I have my own peculiar style of customized colors.  One of the main
> reasons my primary system uses Lubuntu is because of the
> color-customization, which retains the ease-of-use that was present in
> Ubuntu 11.04.
>
> I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which the colors worked fine. After
> the upgrade to 14.04, the color customization does not appear in any
> windows I have tried (and I have tried a lot of them).
>
> Even in the window where you change the appearance with custom colors, it
> shows that it remembers the colors I specified, but the specified colors
> are not used in the window in which I specify them.
>
> It appears that color-customization can be done in the preferences
> settings, but the color customization you specify is universally ignored.
>
> Does anyone have any idea of how to make color-customization work in
> Lubuntu 14.04?
>
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> Aere
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cd wallet

2014-04-25 Thread Rafael Laguna
Dear people:

As you may know Canonical has released another wallet for Ubuntu 14.04
Trusty Tahr [1], as it is an LTS version it may deserve that. So we have
one too. And you all know me, I'm so "Canonicalized" I only publish what
Canonical does, for our flavour Lubuntu.

You can download the Lubuntu wallet at [2]. It includes a normal CD / DVD
cover, a disc imprint and a Lightscribe version, both with and without hole
(thanks for that advice) with, of course, source SVG included.

I hope you like it.Hugs to everyone!


​[1] http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing#CD_wallet​

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Re: Bug 996568 (was bug/1294813 )

2014-04-07 Thread Rafael Laguna
I'm afraid not. My aproval is pending. I "was" member of Community Design
Team, but it seems inactive now. If you're asking about my intervention, I
cannot (for now) doing nothing in Ubuntu itself. I limb to a very small
kingdom.

But did you noticed this on Lubuntu? My new fresh Trusty install worked
fine. No crash from "CD Install" or from "Desktop Install". Also, I tested
Xubuntu and Kylin. Everything went fine.


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2014-04-07 23:52 GMT+02:00 Phill Whiteside :

> Rafael,
>
> from memory, you are part of the general art work team for ubuntu as well?
> Or did you resign? the bug does seem to be a generic one, as opposed to
> flavour specific.
>
>  Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 7 April 2014 22:31, Rafael Laguna  wrote:
>
>> That's because the slideshows are very ugly
>>
>> (Alex :P)
>>
>> PS. What about uploading the same slideshows to Ubiquity AND our web?
>> They're a bit outdated. And when I say a bit...
>>
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>>
>> 2014-04-07 21:34 GMT+02:00 Phill Whiteside :
>>
>>>  the bug seems to have been noticed... (
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/996568
>>> )
>>>
>>>  Changed in webkit (Ubuntu):*importance*:Undecided → High Changed in
>>> ubiquity (Ubuntu):*importance*:High → Critical Changed in webkit
>>> (Ubuntu):*importance*:High → Critical *status*:Confirmed → Triaged
>>> *status*: Triaged → Confirmed
>>>
>>> We now await to see what happens
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
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Re: Bug 996568 (was bug/1294813 )

2014-04-07 Thread Rafael Laguna
That's because the slideshows are very ugly

(Alex :P)

PS. What about uploading the same slideshows to Ubiquity AND our web?
They're a bit outdated. And when I say a bit...

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2014-04-07 21:34 GMT+02:00 Phill Whiteside :

> the bug seems to have been noticed... (
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/996568
> )
>
>  Changed in webkit (Ubuntu):*importance*:Undecided → High Changed in
> ubiquity (Ubuntu):*importance*:High → Critical Changed in webkit (Ubuntu):
> *importance*:High → Critical *status*:Confirmed → Triaged*status*:Triaged → 
> Confirmed
>
> We now await to see what happens
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
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Re: Lubuntu

2014-03-31 Thread Rafael Laguna
We're honored you liked it. That's our function, to get ALL computers
usable and still working.

Don't forget to join our Facebook pages so you can share your opinionor get
more info:

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2014-03-31 13:16 GMT+02:00 Michael Gaston :

> Good Morning People,
>
> I am not a computer geek but love my old computers and the Lubuntu that
> lets them function.  Thank you one and all for the hours of work that you
> put into this project.
>
> Mike
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Re: How Do You Restore The Application Menu?

2014-03-30 Thread Rafael Laguna
Did you erase all config folders? Like "./config/lxde"  or something. 


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Aere Greenway  wrote:

>All:
>
>I can't believe it, but it appears that I have accidentally destroyed my 
>primary system (Lubuntu 13.10).
>
>I was attempting to remove one of my commonly used (but no longer 
>needed) task-bar launchers, but what I actually (unknowingly) removed 
>was the application menu itself (the icon at the far left of the task-bar).
>
>I have spent over an hour trying to figure out a way to restore it, and 
>have not been successful.
>
>Does anyone have any idea of how to restore the application menu to the 
>task-bar?
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Re: Portable installed system that boots in UEFI as well as BIOS mode

2014-03-26 Thread Rafael Laguna
Can we install it with unetbootin? And has it persistent filesystem?
Because I'd like top get rid off my harddisk boot and use this.

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2014-03-26 12:47 GMT+01:00 Nio Wiklund :

> Hi Phill,
>
> I have uploaded a compressed image file of a system for high end
> computers, contrary to what I have been working with before.
>
> This is a portable installed system that boots in UEFI as well as BIOS
> mode. It can be installed into a USB pendrive and is a good alternative
> to a persistent live system, because it can be updated and upgraded
> without limits.
>
> See the description in this web page
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UEFI-and-BIOS
>
> and it is uploaded to your server at
>
> http://phillw.net/isos/linux-tools/uefi-n-bios
>
> The method described and the 'final product' as a compressed image file
> work for me in a Toshiba notebook according to the following specification.
>
> http://www.toshiba.se/laptops/satellite-pro/c850/satellite-pro-c850-19w
>
> I don't know how specific or portable it is until tested in other
> computers with UEFI.
>
> I think the method is more important than the 'final product' in this
> case, and it will be interesting to find out how portable it is.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
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PCManFM actions

2014-03-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
As you may know, PCManFM supports the use of actions or customized context
menus, as Thunar does. A nice repository for PCManFM was created at the
blog (thanks to Vasian). If you want to share scripts / actions, you're
welcome.

http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com.es/2014/03/pcmanfm-actions.html

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Re: Lubuntu 14.04

2014-03-18 Thread Rafael Laguna
I knew that too, Ali, but I couldn't tell you because I'd have to kill you
all LOL

No, really, congratulations to all!

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2014-03-18 23:53 GMT+01:00 NikTh :

>
>
> On 03/18/2014 08:35 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
> > 2014-02-22 20:56 GMT+01:00 Julien Lavergne :
> >
> >>
> >> I also started the page for the LTS request :
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/14.04/LTS-Proposal
> >>
> >
> > Just to confirm that Technical Board accepted our request to get LTS
> > support for 3 years. Time to prepare the release :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Julien Lavergne
> >
>
> Congratulations. :-)
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Re: Lubuntu 14.04

2014-03-18 Thread Rafael Laguna
I knew it! Congratulations to the full crew. 


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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Introduction - Edgardo Rios

2014-03-05 Thread Rafael Laguna
As you say, yes, we have a lot of work to do. But we're a growing community
and people like is very useful and enriching. I'd like to welcome you
aboard.

¡Bienvenido!


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2014-03-05 18:33 GMT+01:00 Edgardo Rios Alanis :

> Hello Everyone, I hope you are doing well:
>
> I am sending this email to you as my introduction to the team, my name is
> Edgardo Rios, I am 37 years old and live in Mexico (Monterrey, Nuevo Leon,
> Mexico).
>
> Some years ago, back in 2001, it was the first time I tried to use a Linux
> based distro (Red Hat Linux 7.0), since then, I have had ups and downs on
> this path, falling at times to achieve the goal to use Linux all the time.
> Sadly, the most significant barrier is that all the companies I have had
> worked for, does not used Linux or Open source software. Anyway, I am not
> going to give up.
>
> Right now, I am using Lubuntu 13.10, and the user experience is just
> great. Although I have tried other distros, I feel in home using Ubuntu
> and/or its derivatives. Right now, I am looking forward for the Lubuntu LTS
> version, I am sure that version will be the best for those looking for a
> WinXP replacement.
>
> Although I am a self-sufficient user (only if Google keeps helping me), I
> would like to keep learning and supporting Ubuntu community in order to be
> able to help more people. At first, I would like to help people and schools
> in my community who does not have enough resources for new hardware. I am
> sure they can take advantage of Lubuntu.
>
> Talking about this team, I can see that you have a lot things to work on,
> and of course that I would like to be part of your efforts.
>
> Thanks in advance for your time!
>
> Regards.
> Edgardo
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Re: Aw: Re: Lubuntu daily /nvidia 331 / chrome

2014-02-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
A friend of mine with Ubuntu 14.04 has the same situation. And he
didn't add any PPA.
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2014-02-24 18:07 GMT+01:00 Lars Noodén :
> On 24.02.2014 18:51, Norbert Holze wrote:
>> Hello!
>> I don't that glib ist the problem. I saw this failure in the past when I 
>> added
>> the Lubuntu-Daily PPA. So I think it depends on the new LXDE components.
>> I see the glib failure also on Lubuntu 13.10 without any problems for 
>> firefox.
>> Kind regrads,
>> Norbert
>
> Ok.  I'm not using the PPA at all.  Like with Nio, one of the
> updates/upgrades broke it.  But since it was running at the time, and
> had been for a few days, I have no clue which update did it.  It was
> only when I had to close/run FF that I was bitten.
>
> Now, Firefox won't launch at all for me any more from either the
> terminal or the LXDE menu.  However, it will launch if I click on a link
> from within a message in Thunderbird.  Once it's running it seems to
> operate as normal.  I did file a bug about the segfault:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1284103
>
> It looks like Thunderbird is affected by the same problem and won't
> launch.  Logging in to a second account and trying to launch Thunderbird
> it looks like it is affected by the same problem.
>
> Regards,
> /Lars
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Re: pcmanfm desktop grid

2014-02-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
It's happening to me since 14.04. Saucy Salamander worked fine. But
still without automatic grid alignmnent, I hate when I move an icon
and it's 3px on the right compared to the others, and then you cannot
reposition anymore.
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2014-02-24 17:27 GMT+01:00 Aere Greenway :
> On 02/24/2014 04:52 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>>
>> I noticed the PCManFM desktop grid is double size and leaves blank
>> spaces between icons. It puts icons in uneven places. Is it normal?
>>
>> Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/h3FTHaJ.png
>>
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>>
> Rafael:
>
> I have observed this in every release of Lubuntu I have used (since 11.10).
>
> Even now, my desktop icons don't line up in columns (despite my best
> efforts), and there are wider and narrower spaces between icons vertically.
> I am using Lubuntu 13.10.
>
> I consider it an annoyance, and have put up with it, but it is annoying.
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Re: Lubuntu daily /nvidia 331 / chrome

2014-02-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
So tries to open Firefox again for bug report? But I have SIX browsers
right now, and established Chromium as default does the same.
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2014-02-24 13:27 GMT+01:00 Lars Noodén :
> On 24.02.2014 14:10, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>> Confirmed the same problem on IceWeasel, GNUZilla IceCat, and ALL
>> gecko based browsers.
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>
> Hi, Norbert and all,
>
> I get it, too, on AMD64:
>
> $ firefox
>
> (process:25123): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config:
> assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>
> While Firefox was running, it stayed running.  Though now it won't start.
>
> I guess the system can't file an automatic bug report without a browser.
>  Has one been filed manually yet?
>
> Regards,
> /Lars
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Re: Lubuntu daily /nvidia 331 / chrome

2014-02-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
Confirmed the same problem on IceWeasel, GNUZilla IceCat, and ALL
gecko based browsers.
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2014-02-23 20:40 GMT+01:00 Rafael Laguna :
> I can tell that Firefox Nightly (that called Aurora) is broken too. I
> had to install Chromium, but it was s slow that I changed it for
> QupZilla and Epiphany (same engine). Sad about my lovely extensions,
> that I can't live without.
>
> Any clue what happened with Mozilla? This was my message error:
>
> (process:9520): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
> 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
>
> (firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
> GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised
>
> (firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
> GnomeProgram::show-crash-dialog after class was initialised
>
> (firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
> GnomeProgram::display after class was initialised
>
> (firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
> GnomeProgram::default-icon after class was initialised
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>
> I don't think it's Firefox's fault itslef. Obviously glib is broken.
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>
> 2014-02-23 18:14 GMT+01:00 Nio Wiklund :
>> Hi Norbert and Rafael,
>>
>> One of the latest daily updates/upgrades of Lubuntu Trusty broke Firefox
>> for me. I have no proprietary drivers, but can switch between the
>> default kernel and an experimental non-pae kernel. This problem is
>> independent of the kernel (happens when booted with either of them).
>>
>> I installed Midori and can browse the internet, so it is not the network
>> system, I think it is caused by the Firefox software or some library
>> used by it.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
>> 2014-02-23 18:07, Rafael Laguna skrev:
>>> I have the NVidia drivers and my system works fine. LXPanel is just a
>>> panel, it can't affect to any browser. Have you enabled the GLX
>>> features on Chrome? Does it happen when you deactivate the driver and
>>> use the default one?
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>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-02-23 16:46 GMT+01:00 Norbert Holze :
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Today I tried a clean install of Lubuntu daily. The install run very
>>>> smooth. But when I tried to install the nvidia driver it fails. I solved
>>>> the problem with the build-essential package.
>>>>
>>>> google-chrome-stable only runs once. The next time I only get a segment
>>>> fault. And now also firefox won't start (segment fault). All other
>>>> programms are running fine.
>>>>
>>>> Can some help me to find the main reason for the problem. Is it the
>>>> nvidia driver? Or the new lxpanel? Last week everything runs fine.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Norbert
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pcmanfm desktop grid

2014-02-24 Thread Rafael Laguna
I noticed the PCManFM desktop grid is double size and leaves blank
spaces between icons. It puts icons in uneven places. Is it normal?

Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/h3FTHaJ.png

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Re: Lubuntu daily /nvidia 331 / chrome

2014-02-23 Thread Rafael Laguna
I can tell that Firefox Nightly (that called Aurora) is broken too. I
had to install Chromium, but it was s slow that I changed it for
QupZilla and Epiphany (same engine). Sad about my lovely extensions,
that I can't live without.

Any clue what happened with Mozilla? This was my message error:

(process:9520): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
'sys_page_size == 0' failed

(firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised

(firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
GnomeProgram::show-crash-dialog after class was initialised

(firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
GnomeProgram::display after class was initialised

(firefox:9520): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
GnomeProgram::default-icon after class was initialised
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

I don't think it's Firefox's fault itslef. Obviously glib is broken.
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2014-02-23 18:14 GMT+01:00 Nio Wiklund :
> Hi Norbert and Rafael,
>
> One of the latest daily updates/upgrades of Lubuntu Trusty broke Firefox
> for me. I have no proprietary drivers, but can switch between the
> default kernel and an experimental non-pae kernel. This problem is
> independent of the kernel (happens when booted with either of them).
>
> I installed Midori and can browse the internet, so it is not the network
> system, I think it is caused by the Firefox software or some library
> used by it.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> 2014-02-23 18:07, Rafael Laguna skrev:
>> I have the NVidia drivers and my system works fine. LXPanel is just a
>> panel, it can't affect to any browser. Have you enabled the GLX
>> features on Chrome? Does it happen when you deactivate the driver and
>> use the default one?
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>>
>>
>> 2014-02-23 16:46 GMT+01:00 Norbert Holze :
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> Today I tried a clean install of Lubuntu daily. The install run very
>>> smooth. But when I tried to install the nvidia driver it fails. I solved
>>> the problem with the build-essential package.
>>>
>>> google-chrome-stable only runs once. The next time I only get a segment
>>> fault. And now also firefox won't start (segment fault). All other
>>> programms are running fine.
>>>
>>> Can some help me to find the main reason for the problem. Is it the
>>> nvidia driver? Or the new lxpanel? Last week everything runs fine.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Norbert
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Re: Lubuntu daily /nvidia 331 / chrome

2014-02-23 Thread Rafael Laguna
I have the NVidia drivers and my system works fine. LXPanel is just a
panel, it can't affect to any browser. Have you enabled the GLX
features on Chrome? Does it happen when you deactivate the driver and
use the default one?
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2014-02-23 16:46 GMT+01:00 Norbert Holze :
> Hello!
>
> Today I tried a clean install of Lubuntu daily. The install run very
> smooth. But when I tried to install the nvidia driver it fails. I solved
> the problem with the build-essential package.
>
> google-chrome-stable only runs once. The next time I only get a segment
> fault. And now also firefox won't start (segment fault). All other
> programms are running fine.
>
> Can some help me to find the main reason for the problem. Is it the
> nvidia driver? Or the new lxpanel? Last week everything runs fine.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Norbert
>
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Re: Evince alternative

2014-02-20 Thread Rafael Laguna
In fact, I already fixed this annoying bug
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1256560).
This happened due to a change in GTK3 libraries (surprising me, I must
admit) and I repaired this. I don't know why you get this bug in
Saucy. Maybe you should add our daily ppa to get rid of that
(ppa:lubuntu-art/daily).

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2014-02-20 18:04 GMT+01:00 John Hupp :
>
> I find Evince to be functional, but at least in Saucy, I agree that the menus 
> are displeasing, with many items in gray text on black background, making 
> them appear inactive.
>
> And at least in its GUI, I find no way to enable a traditional menu bar.  
> (Not terribly disturbing, since other apps are migrating away from that, 
> though perhaps offering it as a non-default option.)
>
> But maybe Rafael is saying that, at least for upcoming Trusty, he has the 
> existing menu items displaying nicely.
>
>
> On 2/20/2014 5:16 AM, Kris Van Bruwaene wrote:
>
> Thank you guys for all these tips. Eric Bradshaw's tweak managed to make the 
> menus readable again, but still the traditional textual menus (upper left: 
> File/Edit/View...) are replaced by two unlabeled buttons upper right, quite 
> different from all other applications. So I decided to turn to Atril (as a 
> fork probably 99% equal to evince anyway). Removing Lubuntu-desktop proved 
> harmless, at least for now...
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 19 February 2014, 14:20, Rafael Laguna 
>  wrote:
> I've already fixed the menus and they're fine now. The bug is gone. And in 
> Trusty, Evince has less buttons. We tested before other solutions and Evince 
> is not so resource-hungry, it respects image standards (colour profiles, icc 
> resampling, anti-aliasing, etc) more than any other solution that, 
> unfortunately, use "strange" UI solutions (FLTK, non-GTK, etc).
>
>
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>
> 2014-02-19 11:33 GMT+01:00 Lars Noodén :
>
> On 19.02.2014 12:19, Kris Van Bruwaene wrote:
> > I very much like Lubuntu and enjoy using it on several PCs at home
> > and at work. However the PDF viewer Evince does not fit in well with
> > the rest of LXDE. Its menu is "optimized" for Gnome3, and displays
> > black letters on a black background :-( . So I wanted to replace it
> > with Atril, a fork of Evince for the Mate desktop. I had to download
> > quite some Mate stuff to get Atril working, but it's OK. Now when I
> > want to remove Evince, I need to remove Lubuntu-desktop as well,
> > which doesn't seem like a good idea. Or is it?
>
> lubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage and doesn't actually contain
> anything itself.  You should be able to remove it without affecting
> much.  You can try a dry run with --simulate in apt-get
>
> sudo apt-get --simulate remove evince
>
> and that will show you what will get changed without actually changing it.
>
> Regards,
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Re: Trusty Tahr artwork

2014-02-19 Thread Rafael Laguna
Oh, right. I'm not an expert in architecture. So, my K7 (Sempron 3200
Athlon64) is newer than those who need non-PAE? Because everything works
fine.

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2014-02-19 19:33 GMT+01:00 Ali Linx :

>
> On 02/19/2014 09:40 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>
>  That's true. If you want to use 10.04 you should be able to, and
> programs must work the same way. But you must expect some weird changes
> when you update some parts of the system (like the artwork only).
>
>  I must tell you that my computer is worst than "3rd world". It's an AMD
> K7, and I can't run Unity., but Lubuntu Trusty Tahr runs as fast as light,
> with compositing and transparency effects. Trusty doesn't have more RAM
> consumption than Precise. You should install anwhere, and I recommend it,
> because the developers may fixed some bugs you still have on your computer.
>
>
>  If you have Non-PAE CPU, newer versions of Lubuntu will 'not' work by
> default, Rafael ;)
> That is exactly why users are using 'old and unsupported' versions and
> that is why people like Phill and me are trying to find a solution for this
> ;)
>
>
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>
> 2014-02-19 18:03 GMT+01:00 Salama :
>
>> Just because 12.04 reached EOL doesn't mean that we shouldn't use it!!
>> Some old machines - with very low memory - won't be able to use the
>> new versions.. so 12.04 is the only available solution to many users
>> in "3rd world" countries.
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