[VOTE] Incubate lucene4c?

2005-02-17 Thread Erik Hatcher
The Incubator requires the Lucene PMC vote on whether to accept the 
lucene4c codebase.

+1 from me.
Other Lucene PMC members - please cast your vote on this thread.
Erik
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Cliff Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: February 17, 2005 5:12:36 AM EST
To: 
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Lucene4c
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
Garrett,
You're right that all new code bases should come through the Incubator.
However, the appropriate PMC to vote on whether it should be accepted
into the incubator is the sponsoring PMC, which in this case appears to
be the Lucene PMC.  (The Incubator PMC does sponsor some projects,
usually the ones that are expected to eventually be their own TLP.)
The Incubator PMC is responsible for supporting what comes in and 
voting
whether it is ready to graduate.  So, once the Lucene PMC votes to
incubate it, the Incubator PMC will help you figure out exactly what
needs to be done and will then vote on graduation.

Hope that helps.
Cliff
On Monday, February 14, 2005 10:58 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote:
On Feb 14, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Feb 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
All donated code should really go through the Incubator, even if
only to do the required IP checklist.
Right.
By my question is why doesn't this go through the Lucene project?
The Lucene PMC could bring the codebase into their project and
register the IP stuff here w/ the incubator.
Is there some precedent for this?  I'm not sure what is meant by
"register the IP stuff here".  Could you elaborate on what this
entails.
I'd gladly bring the codebase into Lucene's repository if that is the
consensus.  It was created entirely by Garrett and he's agreed to
donate it, so the IP should be pretty clear cut.
Erik

I hope I'm just misunderstanding, but this appears to be a proposal
to create a new project at the ASF called "Lucene4c"
geir
On Feb 14, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote:
I presume this codebase is substantial enough that it requires
incubation?  Or because it was a single developer, could he
contribute it directly to the Lucene project and bypass
incubation?
Erik
On Feb 14, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote:
I'd like to propose the Lucene4c project for incubation.
Lucene4c is a port of the Lucene search engine from Java to C,
using the Apache Portable Runtime library for portability.
The project is far from complete, and code to date is
primarily concerned with reading an existing Lucene index,
which must be created with another Lucene implementation
(currently only Java Lucene has been tested).  The plan is to
complete support for the rest of the index format and then
move on to implementing search functionality (beyond the
current proof of concept code anyway). Once we've reached
that point work will begin on actual indexing functionality
so that Lucene4c can stand alone, without the use of another
Lucene implementation for bootstrapping.
The project would be part of the new Lucene top leve project,
and Erik Hatcher has offerred to serve as a sponsor.
While I have yet to expand the community of developers
further than myself, I am anxious to do so, and I expect to
be able to draw both from people as of yet unassociated with
Lucene who have expressed interest in such a project and from
existing Lucene developers who have expressed interest in
establishing cross-language compatibility tests for the
various Lucene ports.
Lucene4c already has ties to existing ASF projects,
particularly Lucene itself and APR.  Bringing it into the ASF
would only strengthen those ties.
More details, including where to get the current release or
development versions of the code can be found at the Lucene4c
web site at http://electricjellyfish.net/garrett/lucene4c/
-garrett

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Re: [VOTE] Incubate lucene4c?

2005-02-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
+1

--- Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The Incubator requires the Lucene PMC vote on whether to accept the 
> lucene4c codebase.
> 
> +1 from me.
> 
> Other Lucene PMC members - please cast your vote on this thread.
> 
>   Erik
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> > From: "Cliff Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: February 17, 2005 5:12:36 AM EST
> > To: 
> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Lucene4c
> > Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > Garrett,
> >
> > You're right that all new code bases should come through the
> Incubator.
> > However, the appropriate PMC to vote on whether it should be
> accepted
> > into the incubator is the sponsoring PMC, which in this case
> appears to
> > be the Lucene PMC.  (The Incubator PMC does sponsor some projects,
> > usually the ones that are expected to eventually be their own TLP.)
> >
> > The Incubator PMC is responsible for supporting what comes in and 
> > voting
> > whether it is ready to graduate.  So, once the Lucene PMC votes to
> > incubate it, the Incubator PMC will help you figure out exactly
> what
> > needs to be done and will then vote on graduation.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > On Monday, February 14, 2005 10:58 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> >
> >> On Feb 14, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>>
>  All donated code should really go through the Incubator, even if
>  only to do the required IP checklist.
> >>>
> >>> Right.
> >>>
> >>> By my question is why doesn't this go through the Lucene project?
> >>> The Lucene PMC could bring the codebase into their project and
> >>> register the IP stuff here w/ the incubator.
> >>
> >> Is there some precedent for this?  I'm not sure what is meant by
> >> "register the IP stuff here".  Could you elaborate on what this
> >> entails.
> >>
> >> I'd gladly bring the codebase into Lucene's repository if that is
> the
> >> consensus.  It was created entirely by Garrett and he's agreed to
> >> donate it, so the IP should be pretty clear cut.
> >>
> >>Erik
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I hope I'm just misunderstanding, but this appears to be a
> proposal
> >>> to create a new project at the ASF called "Lucene4c"
> >>>
> >>> geir
> >>>
> 
>  On Feb 14, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> 
> > I presume this codebase is substantial enough that it requires
> > incubation?  Or because it was a single developer, could he
> > contribute it directly to the Lucene project and bypass
> > incubation?
> >
> > Erik
> >
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to propose the Lucene4c project for incubation.
> >>
> >> Lucene4c is a port of the Lucene search engine from Java to C,
> >> using the Apache Portable Runtime library for portability.
> >> The project is far from complete, and code to date is
> >> primarily concerned with reading an existing Lucene index,
> >> which must be created with another Lucene implementation
> >> (currently only Java Lucene has been tested).  The plan is to
> >> complete support for the rest of the index format and then
> >> move on to implementing search functionality (beyond the
> >> current proof of concept code anyway). Once we've reached
> >> that point work will begin on actual indexing functionality
> >> so that Lucene4c can stand alone, without the use of another
> >> Lucene implementation for bootstrapping.
> >>
> >> The project would be part of the new Lucene top leve project,
> >> and Erik Hatcher has offerred to serve as a sponsor.
> >>
> >> While I have yet to expand the community of developers
> >> further than myself, I am anxious to do so, and I expect to
> >> be able to draw both from people as of yet unassociated with
> >> Lucene who have expressed interest in such a project and from
> >> existing Lucene developers who have expressed interest in
> >> establishing cross-language compatibility tests for the
> >> various Lucene ports.
> >>
> >> Lucene4c already has ties to existing ASF projects,
> >> particularly Lucene itself and APR.  Bringing it into the ASF
> >> would only strengthen those ties.
> >>
> >> More details, including where to get the current release or
> >> development versions of the code can be found at the Lucene4c
> >> web site at http://electricjellyfish.net/garrett/lucene4c/
> >>
> >> -garrett
> >>
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Re: [VOTE] Incubate lucene4c?

2005-02-17 Thread Scott Ganyo
+1
On Feb 17, 2005, at 6:11 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote:
The Incubator requires the Lucene PMC vote on whether to accept the 
lucene4c codebase.

+1 from me.
Other Lucene PMC members - please cast your vote on this thread.
Erik
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Cliff Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: February 17, 2005 5:12:36 AM EST
To: 
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Lucene4c
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
Garrett,
You're right that all new code bases should come through the 
Incubator.
However, the appropriate PMC to vote on whether it should be accepted
into the incubator is the sponsoring PMC, which in this case appears 
to
be the Lucene PMC.  (The Incubator PMC does sponsor some projects,
usually the ones that are expected to eventually be their own TLP.)

The Incubator PMC is responsible for supporting what comes in and 
voting
whether it is ready to graduate.  So, once the Lucene PMC votes to
incubate it, the Incubator PMC will help you figure out exactly what
needs to be done and will then vote on graduation.

Hope that helps.
Cliff
On Monday, February 14, 2005 10:58 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote:
On Feb 14, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Feb 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
All donated code should really go through the Incubator, even if
only to do the required IP checklist.
Right.
By my question is why doesn't this go through the Lucene project?
The Lucene PMC could bring the codebase into their project and
register the IP stuff here w/ the incubator.
Is there some precedent for this?  I'm not sure what is meant by
"register the IP stuff here".  Could you elaborate on what this
entails.
I'd gladly bring the codebase into Lucene's repository if that is the
consensus.  It was created entirely by Garrett and he's agreed to
donate it, so the IP should be pretty clear cut.
Erik

I hope I'm just misunderstanding, but this appears to be a proposal
to create a new project at the ASF called "Lucene4c"
geir
On Feb 14, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote:
I presume this codebase is substantial enough that it requires
incubation?  Or because it was a single developer, could he
contribute it directly to the Lucene project and bypass
incubation?
Erik
On Feb 14, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote:
I'd like to propose the Lucene4c project for incubation.
Lucene4c is a port of the Lucene search engine from Java to C,
using the Apache Portable Runtime library for portability.
The project is far from complete, and code to date is
primarily concerned with reading an existing Lucene index,
which must be created with another Lucene implementation
(currently only Java Lucene has been tested).  The plan is to
complete support for the rest of the index format and then
move on to implementing search functionality (beyond the
current proof of concept code anyway). Once we've reached
that point work will begin on actual indexing functionality
so that Lucene4c can stand alone, without the use of another
Lucene implementation for bootstrapping.
The project would be part of the new Lucene top leve project,
and Erik Hatcher has offerred to serve as a sponsor.
While I have yet to expand the community of developers
further than myself, I am anxious to do so, and I expect to
be able to draw both from people as of yet unassociated with
Lucene who have expressed interest in such a project and from
existing Lucene developers who have expressed interest in
establishing cross-language compatibility tests for the
various Lucene ports.
Lucene4c already has ties to existing ASF projects,
particularly Lucene itself and APR.  Bringing it into the ASF
would only strengthen those ties.
More details, including where to get the current release or
development versions of the code can be found at the Lucene4c
web site at http://electricjellyfish.net/garrett/lucene4c/
-garrett

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Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread George Aroush
Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)

George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]





(0) rationale 

Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene from Java
to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low level APIs,
public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene as well as
the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is ported to
Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with Lucene.Net is
100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for
packages, classes, methods and documentation.

Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and is
now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and thus
uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate to be
moved to the Apache foundation.

I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.

(0.1) criteria

Community:

Lucene.Net has an established user community.  However, the development
community currently consists of primarily George Aroush, the submitter of
this proposal.

Core Developers:

Currently, Lucene.Net has one active committer, George Aroush.

Alignment: 

Lucene.Net currently users Visual Studio.Net 2003.  In addition, it is being
used by Mono.

(0.2) warning signs 

Orphaned products: 

Lucene.Net is not an orphan.

Inexperience with open source: 

Lucene.Net's committers are experienced with open source. 

Homogenous developers: 

Lucene.Net's committers do not all share an employer or nation. All
decisions are made openly on public mailing lists. 

Reliance on salaried developers: 

Lucene.Net has no salaried developers. 

No ties to other Apache products:

Lucene.Net has strong ties to Lucene.

A fascination with the Apache brand: 

Lucene.Net has a strong brand already.  It has followers and projects based
on it such as Lookout, .Text, Beagle and Ascirum.

(1) scope of the subprojects 

All code is currently licensed under the same license as Jakarta Lucene
which is Apache 2.0 license.  I have not yet signed the Contributor License
Agreements but I look forward to it.

(3) identify the ASF resources to be created 

(3.1) mailing list(s) 

Same as Jakarta Lucene

(3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories 

TBD

(3.3) Jira 

TBD

(4) identify the initial set of committers 

Same as Jakarta Lucene.

(5) identify apache sponsoring individual 

Erik Hatcher, Doug Cutting, and Otis Gospodnetic.


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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Garrett Rooney
George Aroush wrote:
Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]


(0) rationale 

Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene from Java
to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low level APIs,
public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene as well as
the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is ported to
Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with Lucene.Net is
100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for
packages, classes, methods and documentation.
Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and is
now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and thus
uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate to be
moved to the Apache foundation.
I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.
Was the current codebase based on the older Lucene.NET project?  The one 
that its authors stopped making available as an open source project? 
The reason I ask is that I recall that version was under an older 
version of the Apache License, and I imagine you would require the 
permission of its authors to relicense it under the newer license.

Conceptually I have no objection to bringing in this project, I just 
want to make sure that the legal bases are covered.

-garrett
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RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread George Aroush
Hi Garrett,

Thanks for your support.

No, the port of 1.4.0 and 1.4.3 of dotLucene is from the ground up and has
nothing to do with Lucene.Net 1.3.  The logs on SourceForge.net shows this.

The conflicting question that I have is, Lucene.Net is a better name then
dotLucene.  On SourceForge.Net we picked dotLucene because LuceneDotNet was
taken (the previous developer, back then)  So my choice is to call it
Lucene.Net instead of dotLucene as it is more appropriate.  In addition, the
project, including namespace, is referred to as Lucene.Net -- only the
distribution package is called dotLucene.

Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.

Regards,

-- George 

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:22 AM
To: Lucene Developers List
Subject: Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

George Aroush wrote:
> Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
> 
> George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> --
> --
> 
> 
> (0) rationale
> 
> Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene 
> from Java to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and 
> low level APIs, public and internal APIs, and the underlying 
> algorithms of Lucene as well as the index format.  Every Java file 
> released with Jakarta Lucene is ported to Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, 
> any index file generated with Lucene.Net is 100% cross compatible with 
> Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally, Lucene.Net preserves the 
> look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for packages, classes, methods and
documentation.
> 
> Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and 
> is now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit 
> organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and 
> thus uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate 
> to be moved to the Apache foundation.
> 
> I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed 
> search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.

Was the current codebase based on the older Lucene.NET project?  The one
that its authors stopped making available as an open source project? 
The reason I ask is that I recall that version was under an older version of
the Apache License, and I imagine you would require the permission of its
authors to relicense it under the newer license.

Conceptually I have no objection to bringing in this project, I just want to
make sure that the legal bases are covered.

-garrett

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Re: [VOTE] Incubate lucene4c?

2005-02-17 Thread Doug Cutting
+1
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[VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Erik Hatcher
Lucene.Net has my +1.
Other PMC members please cast your vote also.
As for Garrett's concerns, it is my understanding that dotLucene is not  
based the previous Lucene.NET codebase.  Though George mentions  
Lookout, Beagle, and some other projects - are these projects using the  
dotLucene codebase?  I thought that Lookout used the previous  
Lucene.NET project.

George - could you clarify the lineage of your project and list what  
projects are using it specifically?  Also, perhaps we should stick with  
calling this dotLucene for now to avoid confusion with the other  
codebase.

Erik
On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:14 AM, George Aroush wrote:
Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(0) rationale
Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene  
from Java
to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low level  
APIs,
public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene as  
well as
the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is  
ported to
Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with Lucene.Net  
is
100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for
packages, classes, methods and documentation.

Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and  
is
now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and  
thus
uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate to be
moved to the Apache foundation.

I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.
(0.1) criteria
Community:
Lucene.Net has an established user community.  However, the development
community currently consists of primarily George Aroush, the submitter  
of
this proposal.

Core Developers:
Currently, Lucene.Net has one active committer, George Aroush.
Alignment:
Lucene.Net currently users Visual Studio.Net 2003.  In addition, it is  
being
used by Mono.

(0.2) warning signs
Orphaned products:
Lucene.Net is not an orphan.
Inexperience with open source:
Lucene.Net's committers are experienced with open source.
Homogenous developers:
Lucene.Net's committers do not all share an employer or nation. All
decisions are made openly on public mailing lists.
Reliance on salaried developers:
Lucene.Net has no salaried developers.
No ties to other Apache products:
Lucene.Net has strong ties to Lucene.
A fascination with the Apache brand:
Lucene.Net has a strong brand already.  It has followers and projects  
based
on it such as Lookout, .Text, Beagle and Ascirum.

(1) scope of the subprojects
All code is currently licensed under the same license as Jakarta Lucene
which is Apache 2.0 license.  I have not yet signed the Contributor  
License
Agreements but I look forward to it.

(3) identify the ASF resources to be created
(3.1) mailing list(s)
Same as Jakarta Lucene
(3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories
TBD
(3.3) Jira
TBD
(4) identify the initial set of committers
Same as Jakarta Lucene.
(5) identify apache sponsoring individual
Erik Hatcher, Doug Cutting, and Otis Gospodnetic.
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Re: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Doug Cutting
+1
Doug
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About the license in code...

2005-02-17 Thread Mario Alejandro M.
I'm porting Lucene to Delphi, based in DotLucene. I have setup the
proyect in http://sourceforge.net/projects/mutis/.

I don't full understand what i can do about the license. What are the
limitations.

Also, i want to know if can do this in the code:

unit PhraseScorer;

//Read the license in License.txt

and not put the whole license in each unit in the proyect.
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RE: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread George Aroush
Hi Erik,

Regarding Garrett's concern, I responded to him regarding, so therefore
isn't any issue.

As for Lookout, Beagle, ets, I know for fact that Beagle, Ascirum and .Text
are using dotLucene, I don't know about Lookout.  Just do a Google them and
you will see.

As for the name of the project, I prefer Lucene.Net -- everything in the
package is Lucene.Net, the project name is called dotLucene; this is
inconsistent but I will take a vote on it.

Regards,

-- George
 

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From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:40 AM
To: Lucene Developers List
Subject: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

Lucene.Net has my +1.

Other PMC members please cast your vote also.

As for Garrett's concerns, it is my understanding that dotLucene is not
based the previous Lucene.NET codebase.  Though George mentions Lookout,
Beagle, and some other projects - are these projects using the dotLucene
codebase?  I thought that Lookout used the previous Lucene.NET project.

George - could you clarify the lineage of your project and list what
projects are using it specifically?  Also, perhaps we should stick with
calling this dotLucene for now to avoid confusion with the other codebase.

Erik

On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:14 AM, George Aroush wrote:

> Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
>
> George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> --- 
> -
> 
>
> (0) rationale
>
> Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene  
> from Java
> to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low level  
> APIs,
> public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene as  
> well as
> the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is  
> ported to
> Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with Lucene.Net  
> is
> 100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
> Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for
> packages, classes, methods and documentation.
>
> Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and  
> is
> now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
> organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and  
> thus
> uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate to be
> moved to the Apache foundation.
>
> I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
> search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.
>
> (0.1) criteria
>
> Community:
>
> Lucene.Net has an established user community.  However, the development
> community currently consists of primarily George Aroush, the submitter  
> of
> this proposal.
>
> Core Developers:
>
> Currently, Lucene.Net has one active committer, George Aroush.
>
> Alignment:
>
> Lucene.Net currently users Visual Studio.Net 2003.  In addition, it is  
> being
> used by Mono.
>
> (0.2) warning signs
>
> Orphaned products:
>
> Lucene.Net is not an orphan.
>
> Inexperience with open source:
>
> Lucene.Net's committers are experienced with open source.
>
> Homogenous developers:
>
> Lucene.Net's committers do not all share an employer or nation. All
> decisions are made openly on public mailing lists.
>
> Reliance on salaried developers:
>
> Lucene.Net has no salaried developers.
>
> No ties to other Apache products:
>
> Lucene.Net has strong ties to Lucene.
>
> A fascination with the Apache brand:
>
> Lucene.Net has a strong brand already.  It has followers and projects  
> based
> on it such as Lookout, .Text, Beagle and Ascirum.
>
> (1) scope of the subprojects
>
> All code is currently licensed under the same license as Jakarta Lucene
> which is Apache 2.0 license.  I have not yet signed the Contributor  
> License
> Agreements but I look forward to it.
>
> (3) identify the ASF resources to be created
>
> (3.1) mailing list(s)
>
> Same as Jakarta Lucene
>
> (3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories
>
> TBD
>
> (3.3) Jira
>
> TBD
>
> (4) identify the initial set of committers
>
> Same as Jakarta Lucene.
>
> (5) identify apache sponsoring individual
>
> Erik Hatcher, Doug Cutting, and Otis Gospodnetic.
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
+1

Otis

--- Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lucene.Net has my +1.
> 
> Other PMC members please cast your vote also.
> 
> As for Garrett's concerns, it is my understanding that dotLucene is
> not  
> based the previous Lucene.NET codebase.  Though George mentions  
> Lookout, Beagle, and some other projects - are these projects using
> the  
> dotLucene codebase?  I thought that Lookout used the previous  
> Lucene.NET project.
> 
> George - could you clarify the lineage of your project and list what 
> 
> projects are using it specifically?  Also, perhaps we should stick
> with  
> calling this dotLucene for now to avoid confusion with the other  
> codebase.
> 
>   Erik
> 
> On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:14 AM, George Aroush wrote:
> 
> > Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
> >
> > George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
>
---
> 
> > -
> > 
> >
> > (0) rationale
> >
> > Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene 
> 
> > from Java
> > to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low
> level  
> > APIs,
> > public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene
> as  
> > well as
> > the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is 
> 
> > ported to
> > Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with
> Lucene.Net  
> > is
> > 100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
> > Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention
> for
> > packages, classes, methods and documentation.
> >
> > Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project,
> and  
> > is
> > now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
> > organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene
> and  
> > thus
> > uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate
> to be
> > moved to the Apache foundation.
> >
> > I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
> > search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various
> ports.
> >
> > (0.1) criteria
> >
> > Community:
> >
> > Lucene.Net has an established user community.  However, the
> development
> > community currently consists of primarily George Aroush, the
> submitter  
> > of
> > this proposal.
> >
> > Core Developers:
> >
> > Currently, Lucene.Net has one active committer, George Aroush.
> >
> > Alignment:
> >
> > Lucene.Net currently users Visual Studio.Net 2003.  In addition, it
> is  
> > being
> > used by Mono.
> >
> > (0.2) warning signs
> >
> > Orphaned products:
> >
> > Lucene.Net is not an orphan.
> >
> > Inexperience with open source:
> >
> > Lucene.Net's committers are experienced with open source.
> >
> > Homogenous developers:
> >
> > Lucene.Net's committers do not all share an employer or nation. All
> > decisions are made openly on public mailing lists.
> >
> > Reliance on salaried developers:
> >
> > Lucene.Net has no salaried developers.
> >
> > No ties to other Apache products:
> >
> > Lucene.Net has strong ties to Lucene.
> >
> > A fascination with the Apache brand:
> >
> > Lucene.Net has a strong brand already.  It has followers and
> projects  
> > based
> > on it such as Lookout, .Text, Beagle and Ascirum.
> >
> > (1) scope of the subprojects
> >
> > All code is currently licensed under the same license as Jakarta
> Lucene
> > which is Apache 2.0 license.  I have not yet signed the Contributor
>  
> > License
> > Agreements but I look forward to it.
> >
> > (3) identify the ASF resources to be created
> >
> > (3.1) mailing list(s)
> >
> > Same as Jakarta Lucene
> >
> > (3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories
> >
> > TBD
> >
> > (3.3) Jira
> >
> > TBD
> >
> > (4) identify the initial set of committers
> >
> > Same as Jakarta Lucene.
> >
> > (5) identify apache sponsoring individual
> >
> > Erik Hatcher, Doug Cutting, and Otis Gospodnetic.
> >
> >
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RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
I prefer dotLucene, because it will be less confusing for people new to
the project.  In Lucene in Action I had to explicitly mention a dead
Lucene.NET project on SourceForge, so readers wouldn't mix it with the
other one called. ah, see, I don't know which one was dead and
which one was alive.  Doesn't matter, they are both dead.  Anyhow,
dotLucene sounds better to me for this reason.

Otis

> Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- George 


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Re: [VOTE] Incubate lucene4c?

2005-02-17 Thread Daniel Naber
On Thursday 17 February 2005 12:11, Erik Hatcher wrote:

> The Incubator requires the Lucene PMC vote on whether to accept the
> lucene4c codebase.
>
> +1 from me.

+1

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Invitations for Plucene, CLucene, PyLucene

2005-02-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Hello,

Just wanted to let you know that I sent email to Plucene, CLucene, and
PyLucene developers and invited them to follow the steps of dotLucene
and Lucene4C and join Lucene at ASF.

Hopefully we'll see their emails on this list soon.  I will also email
Lupy developers and see if they are still interested.

Otis


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Re: About the license in code...

2005-02-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Mario,

I don't know whether there are some legal requirements that dictate
where the license should go.  Apache projects typically include the
license in the code.

On a somewhat related note - if you would like your Lucene port to
Delphi to join Lucene project in the future, please keep in mind that
the Apache Software Foundation will accept only projects released under
the ASF license.

Otis


--- "Mario Alejandro M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm porting Lucene to Delphi, based in DotLucene. I have setup the
> proyect in http://sourceforge.net/projects/mutis/.
> 
> I don't full understand what i can do about the license. What are the
> limitations.
> 
> Also, i want to know if can do this in the code:
> 
> unit PhraseScorer;
> 
> //Read the license in License.txt
> 
> and not put the whole license in each unit in the proyect.
> -- 
> Mario Alejandro Montoya
> MCP
> www.solucionesvulcano.com
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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Garrett Rooney
George Aroush wrote:
Hi Garrett,
Thanks for your support.
No, the port of 1.4.0 and 1.4.3 of dotLucene is from the ground up and has
nothing to do with Lucene.Net 1.3.  The logs on SourceForge.net shows this.
Excellent.  I'm glad to hear it.
The conflicting question that I have is, Lucene.Net is a better name then
dotLucene.  On SourceForge.Net we picked dotLucene because LuceneDotNet was
taken (the previous developer, back then)  So my choice is to call it
Lucene.Net instead of dotLucene as it is more appropriate.  In addition, the
project, including namespace, is referred to as Lucene.Net -- only the
distribution package is called dotLucene.
Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.
I don't have any opinion one way or the other on the name, but I will 
mention that I've always thought it was kind of odd to use something 
like 'Lucene.Net' as the internal namespace, the .Net portion seems 
rather redundant, given that you're talking about C# code it's rather 
obvious that it's .Net, why not simply place it in the Lucene namespace 
and save some typing?

-garrett
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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Doug Cutting
George Aroush wrote:
Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.
I agree that Lucene.Net is a better name.  It's more consistent with 
Lucene Java and Lucene4c, the names for other ports of Lucene.  I think 
it's okay to reclaim the name of an abandonded project, especially if 
the abandoned project is better known and is substantially similar.

The only problem would be if someone else felt that the name Lucene.Net 
was their property.  But the folks at http://searchblackbox.com/ don't 
use name Lucene.Net anymore.  Also, I owned and used the domain 
lucene.net to refer to Apache's Lucene before the Sourceforge Lucene.Net 
project started in 8/03, which arguably gives me rights to the name:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lucene.net/
Doug
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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Daniel Naber
On Thursday 17 February 2005 17:14, George Aroush wrote:

> Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)

+1

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RE: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Pasha Bizhan
Hi, 

> From: George Aroush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> As for Lookout, Beagle, ets, I know for fact that Beagle, 
> Ascirum and .Text are using dotLucene, I don't know about 
> Lookout.  Just do a Google them and you will see.

Lookout use Lucene.Net 1.3.3.1. 
 
Pasha Bizhan


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RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Pasha Bizhan
Hi, 

> From: Doug Cutting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> The only problem would be if someone else felt that the name 
> Lucene.Net was their property.  

Read the license and look the source code. 
Lucene.Net copyrighted to Apache Software Foundation.


Pasha Bizhan
http://lucenedotnet.com



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Avoiding duplication in code port

2005-02-17 Thread Mario Alejandro M.
In wonder if the .NET ports around have implemente classes that are
only mirrors of the Java and not are necesary for a sucesfully port to
.NET is this true?
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Re: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Scott Ganyo
+1


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Re: Avoiding duplication in code port

2005-02-17 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Feb 17, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Mario Alejandro M. wrote:
In wonder if the .NET ports around have implemente classes that are
only mirrors of the Java and not are necesary for a sucesfully port to
.NET is this true?
I don't quite understand your question, but the dotLucene project at 
Sourceforge is a complete port of Lucene Java to C#.

Erik
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