RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-23 Thread George Aroush
Hi Erik,

I don't have CLA.  Is this the one: http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
?  I will read it though and fax it in the next day or so.

Regards,

-- George 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:04 PM
To: Lucene Developers List
Subject: Re: Incubating Lucene.Net


On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:55 AM, George Aroush wrote:

 Hi folks,
 1) Has all the required votes came in?  Are we ready for the next 
 step?  Is there anything more that I have to do?

We're done with the votes and ready to move on.  Sorry I let that slip. 
  lucene4c is at least in progress in the incubator now - it now is
waiting on some infrastructure work to get the repository and access set up.

George - do you have a CLA on file with Apache?  If not, that would be a
necessary next step to get you as a committer on the incubator repository.

 2) One outstanding subject to vote/agree on is the package name.  Will 
 it be dotLucene or Lucene.Net?  My pick is Lucene.Net

Lucene.Net I believe was the consensus.

Erik


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RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-23 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Yes, that looks like the one to fill out and fax.

Otis

--- George Aroush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Erik,
 
 I don't have CLA.  Is this the one:
 http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
 ?  I will read it though and fax it in the next day or so.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- George 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:04 PM
 To: Lucene Developers List
 Subject: Re: Incubating Lucene.Net
 
 
 On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:55 AM, George Aroush wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
  1) Has all the required votes came in?  Are we ready for the next 
  step?  Is there anything more that I have to do?
 
 We're done with the votes and ready to move on.  Sorry I let that
 slip. 
   lucene4c is at least in progress in the incubator now - it now is
 waiting on some infrastructure work to get the repository and access
 set up.
 
 George - do you have a CLA on file with Apache?  If not, that would
 be a
 necessary next step to get you as a committer on the incubator
 repository.
 
  2) One outstanding subject to vote/agree on is the package name. 
 Will 
  it be dotLucene or Lucene.Net?  My pick is Lucene.Net
 
 Lucene.Net I believe was the consensus.
 
   Erik
 
 
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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Garrett Rooney
George Aroush wrote:
Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]


(0) rationale 

Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene from Java
to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low level APIs,
public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene as well as
the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is ported to
Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with Lucene.Net is
100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for
packages, classes, methods and documentation.
Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and is
now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and thus
uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate to be
moved to the Apache foundation.
I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.
Was the current codebase based on the older Lucene.NET project?  The one 
that its authors stopped making available as an open source project? 
The reason I ask is that I recall that version was under an older 
version of the Apache License, and I imagine you would require the 
permission of its authors to relicense it under the newer license.

Conceptually I have no objection to bringing in this project, I just 
want to make sure that the legal bases are covered.

-garrett
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RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread George Aroush
Hi Garrett,

Thanks for your support.

No, the port of 1.4.0 and 1.4.3 of dotLucene is from the ground up and has
nothing to do with Lucene.Net 1.3.  The logs on SourceForge.net shows this.

The conflicting question that I have is, Lucene.Net is a better name then
dotLucene.  On SourceForge.Net we picked dotLucene because LuceneDotNet was
taken (the previous developer, back then)  So my choice is to call it
Lucene.Net instead of dotLucene as it is more appropriate.  In addition, the
project, including namespace, is referred to as Lucene.Net -- only the
distribution package is called dotLucene.

Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.

Regards,

-- George 

-Original Message-
From: Garrett Rooney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:22 AM
To: Lucene Developers List
Subject: Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

George Aroush wrote:
 Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
 
 George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 --
 --
 
 
 (0) rationale
 
 Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene 
 from Java to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and 
 low level APIs, public and internal APIs, and the underlying 
 algorithms of Lucene as well as the index format.  Every Java file 
 released with Jakarta Lucene is ported to Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, 
 any index file generated with Lucene.Net is 100% cross compatible with 
 Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally, Lucene.Net preserves the 
 look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for packages, classes, methods and
documentation.
 
 Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and 
 is now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit 
 organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and 
 thus uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate 
 to be moved to the Apache foundation.
 
 I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed 
 search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.

Was the current codebase based on the older Lucene.NET project?  The one
that its authors stopped making available as an open source project? 
The reason I ask is that I recall that version was under an older version of
the Apache License, and I imagine you would require the permission of its
authors to relicense it under the newer license.

Conceptually I have no objection to bringing in this project, I just want to
make sure that the legal bases are covered.

-garrett

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[VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Erik Hatcher
Lucene.Net has my +1.
Other PMC members please cast your vote also.
As for Garrett's concerns, it is my understanding that dotLucene is not  
based the previous Lucene.NET codebase.  Though George mentions  
Lookout, Beagle, and some other projects - are these projects using the  
dotLucene codebase?  I thought that Lookout used the previous  
Lucene.NET project.

George - could you clarify the lineage of your project and list what  
projects are using it specifically?  Also, perhaps we should stick with  
calling this dotLucene for now to avoid confusion with the other  
codebase.

Erik
On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:14 AM, George Aroush wrote:
Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- 
-


(0) rationale
Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene  
from Java
to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low level  
APIs,
public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene as  
well as
the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is  
ported to
Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with Lucene.Net  
is
100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for
packages, classes, methods and documentation.

Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and  
is
now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and  
thus
uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate to be
moved to the Apache foundation.

I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.
(0.1) criteria
Community:
Lucene.Net has an established user community.  However, the development
community currently consists of primarily George Aroush, the submitter  
of
this proposal.

Core Developers:
Currently, Lucene.Net has one active committer, George Aroush.
Alignment:
Lucene.Net currently users Visual Studio.Net 2003.  In addition, it is  
being
used by Mono.

(0.2) warning signs
Orphaned products:
Lucene.Net is not an orphan.
Inexperience with open source:
Lucene.Net's committers are experienced with open source.
Homogenous developers:
Lucene.Net's committers do not all share an employer or nation. All
decisions are made openly on public mailing lists.
Reliance on salaried developers:
Lucene.Net has no salaried developers.
No ties to other Apache products:
Lucene.Net has strong ties to Lucene.
A fascination with the Apache brand:
Lucene.Net has a strong brand already.  It has followers and projects  
based
on it such as Lookout, .Text, Beagle and Ascirum.

(1) scope of the subprojects
All code is currently licensed under the same license as Jakarta Lucene
which is Apache 2.0 license.  I have not yet signed the Contributor  
License
Agreements but I look forward to it.

(3) identify the ASF resources to be created
(3.1) mailing list(s)
Same as Jakarta Lucene
(3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories
TBD
(3.3) Jira
TBD
(4) identify the initial set of committers
Same as Jakarta Lucene.
(5) identify apache sponsoring individual
Erik Hatcher, Doug Cutting, and Otis Gospodnetic.
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Re: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Doug Cutting
+1
Doug
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RE: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread George Aroush
Hi Erik,

Regarding Garrett's concern, I responded to him regarding, so therefore
isn't any issue.

As for Lookout, Beagle, ets, I know for fact that Beagle, Ascirum and .Text
are using dotLucene, I don't know about Lookout.  Just do a Google them and
you will see.

As for the name of the project, I prefer Lucene.Net -- everything in the
package is Lucene.Net, the project name is called dotLucene; this is
inconsistent but I will take a vote on it.

Regards,

-- George
 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:40 AM
To: Lucene Developers List
Subject: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

Lucene.Net has my +1.

Other PMC members please cast your vote also.

As for Garrett's concerns, it is my understanding that dotLucene is not
based the previous Lucene.NET codebase.  Though George mentions Lookout,
Beagle, and some other projects - are these projects using the dotLucene
codebase?  I thought that Lookout used the previous Lucene.NET project.

George - could you clarify the lineage of your project and list what
projects are using it specifically?  Also, perhaps we should stick with
calling this dotLucene for now to avoid confusion with the other codebase.

Erik

On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:14 AM, George Aroush wrote:

 Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)

 George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 --- 
 -
 

 (0) rationale

 Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene  
 from Java
 to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low level  
 APIs,
 public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene as  
 well as
 the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is  
 ported to
 Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with Lucene.Net  
 is
 100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
 Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention for
 packages, classes, methods and documentation.

 Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project, and  
 is
 now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
 organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene and  
 thus
 uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate to be
 moved to the Apache foundation.

 I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
 search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various ports.

 (0.1) criteria

 Community:

 Lucene.Net has an established user community.  However, the development
 community currently consists of primarily George Aroush, the submitter  
 of
 this proposal.

 Core Developers:

 Currently, Lucene.Net has one active committer, George Aroush.

 Alignment:

 Lucene.Net currently users Visual Studio.Net 2003.  In addition, it is  
 being
 used by Mono.

 (0.2) warning signs

 Orphaned products:

 Lucene.Net is not an orphan.

 Inexperience with open source:

 Lucene.Net's committers are experienced with open source.

 Homogenous developers:

 Lucene.Net's committers do not all share an employer or nation. All
 decisions are made openly on public mailing lists.

 Reliance on salaried developers:

 Lucene.Net has no salaried developers.

 No ties to other Apache products:

 Lucene.Net has strong ties to Lucene.

 A fascination with the Apache brand:

 Lucene.Net has a strong brand already.  It has followers and projects  
 based
 on it such as Lookout, .Text, Beagle and Ascirum.

 (1) scope of the subprojects

 All code is currently licensed under the same license as Jakarta Lucene
 which is Apache 2.0 license.  I have not yet signed the Contributor  
 License
 Agreements but I look forward to it.

 (3) identify the ASF resources to be created

 (3.1) mailing list(s)

 Same as Jakarta Lucene

 (3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories

 TBD

 (3.3) Jira

 TBD

 (4) identify the initial set of committers

 Same as Jakarta Lucene.

 (5) identify apache sponsoring individual

 Erik Hatcher, Doug Cutting, and Otis Gospodnetic.


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Re: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
+1

Otis

--- Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lucene.Net has my +1.
 
 Other PMC members please cast your vote also.
 
 As for Garrett's concerns, it is my understanding that dotLucene is
 not  
 based the previous Lucene.NET codebase.  Though George mentions  
 Lookout, Beagle, and some other projects - are these projects using
 the  
 dotLucene codebase?  I thought that Lookout used the previous  
 Lucene.NET project.
 
 George - could you clarify the lineage of your project and list what 
 
 projects are using it specifically?  Also, perhaps we should stick
 with  
 calling this dotLucene for now to avoid confusion with the other  
 codebase.
 
   Erik
 
 On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:14 AM, George Aroush wrote:
 
  Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)
 
  George Aroush -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 

---
 
  -
  
 
  (0) rationale
 
  Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene) is a source code port of Jakarta Lucene 
 
  from Java
  to C#.  The port is a one-to-one port of Lucene's high and low
 level  
  APIs,
  public and internal APIs, and the underlying algorithms of Lucene
 as  
  well as
  the index format.  Every Java file released with Jakarta Lucene is 
 
  ported to
  Lucene.Net C#.  In addition, any index file generated with
 Lucene.Net  
  is
  100% cross compatible with Jakarta Lucene and via versa.  Finally,
  Lucene.Net preserves the look-and-feel of C#'s naming convention
 for
  packages, classes, methods and documentation.
 
  Lucene.Net 1.4.3 is currently a six-month-old open source project,
 and  
  is
  now hosted at SourceForge.net and is backed by its own non-profit
  organization.  Since Lucene.Net is already based on Jakarta Lucene
 and  
  thus
  uses the Apache 2.0 license is therefore an appropriate candidate
 to be
  moved to the Apache foundation.
 
  I anticipate that Lucene.Net will join the recently proposed
  search.apache.org top-level project, with Lucene and its various
 ports.
 
  (0.1) criteria
 
  Community:
 
  Lucene.Net has an established user community.  However, the
 development
  community currently consists of primarily George Aroush, the
 submitter  
  of
  this proposal.
 
  Core Developers:
 
  Currently, Lucene.Net has one active committer, George Aroush.
 
  Alignment:
 
  Lucene.Net currently users Visual Studio.Net 2003.  In addition, it
 is  
  being
  used by Mono.
 
  (0.2) warning signs
 
  Orphaned products:
 
  Lucene.Net is not an orphan.
 
  Inexperience with open source:
 
  Lucene.Net's committers are experienced with open source.
 
  Homogenous developers:
 
  Lucene.Net's committers do not all share an employer or nation. All
  decisions are made openly on public mailing lists.
 
  Reliance on salaried developers:
 
  Lucene.Net has no salaried developers.
 
  No ties to other Apache products:
 
  Lucene.Net has strong ties to Lucene.
 
  A fascination with the Apache brand:
 
  Lucene.Net has a strong brand already.  It has followers and
 projects  
  based
  on it such as Lookout, .Text, Beagle and Ascirum.
 
  (1) scope of the subprojects
 
  All code is currently licensed under the same license as Jakarta
 Lucene
  which is Apache 2.0 license.  I have not yet signed the Contributor
  
  License
  Agreements but I look forward to it.
 
  (3) identify the ASF resources to be created
 
  (3.1) mailing list(s)
 
  Same as Jakarta Lucene
 
  (3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories
 
  TBD
 
  (3.3) Jira
 
  TBD
 
  (4) identify the initial set of committers
 
  Same as Jakarta Lucene.
 
  (5) identify apache sponsoring individual
 
  Erik Hatcher, Doug Cutting, and Otis Gospodnetic.
 
 
 
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RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
I prefer dotLucene, because it will be less confusing for people new to
the project.  In Lucene in Action I had to explicitly mention a dead
Lucene.NET project on SourceForge, so readers wouldn't mix it with the
other one called. ah, see, I don't know which one was dead and
which one was alive.  Doesn't matter, they are both dead.  Anyhow,
dotLucene sounds better to me for this reason.

Otis

 Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- George 


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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Garrett Rooney
George Aroush wrote:
Hi Garrett,
Thanks for your support.
No, the port of 1.4.0 and 1.4.3 of dotLucene is from the ground up and has
nothing to do with Lucene.Net 1.3.  The logs on SourceForge.net shows this.
Excellent.  I'm glad to hear it.
The conflicting question that I have is, Lucene.Net is a better name then
dotLucene.  On SourceForge.Net we picked dotLucene because LuceneDotNet was
taken (the previous developer, back then)  So my choice is to call it
Lucene.Net instead of dotLucene as it is more appropriate.  In addition, the
project, including namespace, is referred to as Lucene.Net -- only the
distribution package is called dotLucene.
Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.
I don't have any opinion one way or the other on the name, but I will 
mention that I've always thought it was kind of odd to use something 
like 'Lucene.Net' as the internal namespace, the .Net portion seems 
rather redundant, given that you're talking about C# code it's rather 
obvious that it's .Net, why not simply place it in the Lucene namespace 
and save some typing?

-garrett
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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Doug Cutting
George Aroush wrote:
Any thoughts on Lucene.Net/dotLucene package name are welcome.
I agree that Lucene.Net is a better name.  It's more consistent with 
Lucene Java and Lucene4c, the names for other ports of Lucene.  I think 
it's okay to reclaim the name of an abandonded project, especially if 
the abandoned project is better known and is substantially similar.

The only problem would be if someone else felt that the name Lucene.Net 
was their property.  But the folks at http://searchblackbox.com/ don't 
use name Lucene.Net anymore.  Also, I owned and used the domain 
lucene.net to refer to Apache's Lucene before the Sourceforge Lucene.Net 
project started in 8/03, which arguably gives me rights to the name:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lucene.net/
Doug
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Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Daniel Naber
On Thursday 17 February 2005 17:14, George Aroush wrote:

 Proposal for new project Lucene.Net (aka dotLucene)

+1

-- 
http://www.danielnaber.de

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RE: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Pasha Bizhan
Hi, 

 From: George Aroush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 As for Lookout, Beagle, ets, I know for fact that Beagle, 
 Ascirum and .Text are using dotLucene, I don't know about 
 Lookout.  Just do a Google them and you will see.

Lookout use Lucene.Net 1.3.3.1. 
 
Pasha Bizhan


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RE: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Pasha Bizhan
Hi, 

 From: Doug Cutting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 The only problem would be if someone else felt that the name 
 Lucene.Net was their property.  

Read the license and look the source code. 
Lucene.Net copyrighted to Apache Software Foundation.


Pasha Bizhan
http://lucenedotnet.com



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Re: [VOTE] Re: Incubating Lucene.Net

2005-02-17 Thread Scott Ganyo
+1


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