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2003-01-17 Thread






Çäðàâåéòå

Ñèãóðíî òîçè âúïðîñ íå å ïîäõîäÿù çà òîçè ôîðóì, íî âñå ïàê ùå 
ðóñêóâàì äà ïîïèòàì :-)

Ïî íåîáÿñíèìè çà ìåí ïðè÷èíè ìàé äî ñåãà ïðèçâîäèòåëèòå íà 
êîìïþòðè è êîìþòúðíè êîìïîíåíòè îò âñÿêàêúâ âèäþ ñà ñêëîííè äà ñëàãàò â åäíî PC 
êàêâî ëè íå íî íå è åäèí ñâåñòåí ÷àñîâíèê È òî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å åäèí 
ñðàâíèòåëíî òî÷åí êâàðöîâ ÷àñîâíèê ñòðóâà íå ïîâå÷å îò 5 ëåâà ñ îïàêîâêàòà. 
:-)


È òàêà ñå ñòèãà äî ïàðàäîêñà - ìðåæà ñúñ 100 PC-òà îò âñÿêàêúâ 
êëàñ è íèêîé íå çíàå êîëêî å ÷àñà :-)))

Îò òàì ïúê ñå ðàçäàò Time Server - èòå. è íåîáõîäèìîñòòà 
îò òÿõ.

Âúïðîñà å:
Àêî ïðèåì, ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000, 
Novell, Linux è ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ å 
íàé-ëåñíî äà ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà âèíàãè äà èì ñå ñâåðÿâàò 
÷àñîâíèöèòå íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà. 
?


Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Damyan Ivanov
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:59:18AM +0200 Ïåòúð Ìàðêîâ wrote:
 Âúïðîñà å: Àêî ïðèåì,  ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000,
 Novell, Linux è ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ
 å íàé-ëåñíî äà ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà âèíàãè äà èì ñå
 ñâåðÿâàò ÷àñîâíèöèòå íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà. ?

Åòî êàêâî ïðàâÿ àç:

Èìàì ñè åäèí Ëèíóêñ, êîãîòî ñâåðÿâàì ïî íÿêîëêî ÷àñîâíèêà íà ðàçíè
îáñåðâàòîðèè. Ñïèñúê îò ïóáëè÷íî äîñòúïíèòå ÷àñîâíèöè íàìåðèõ ñ Ãóãúë.
Èíñòàëèðàõ ñè NTP ñúðâúð íà òàçè ìàøèíà.

Âñè÷êè ìàøèíè â ìðåæàòà èçïîëçâàò NTP ñúðâúðà äà ñè ñâåðÿâàò
÷àñîâíèöèòå. Ëèíóêñèòå ãî ïðàâÿò åñòåñòâåíî ñ ntp-simple èëè ntpdate (â
cron). Çà Ïðîçîðöèòå íàìåðèõ áåçïëàòíà ïðîãðàìà, êîÿòî ñâåðÿâà ÷àñîâíèêà
ïî NTP (èëè date èëè date/time) ïðîòîêîë.

Âèæ çà Íîâåë íÿìàì èäåè èçîáùî :-|


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Re: lug-bg: LUG-BG FAQ

2003-01-17 Thread George Danchev
On 15 01 2003 14:24, Spas Pavlov wrote:
 On Monday 13 January 2003 22:45, George Danchev wrote:

 Ñåãà êîêðåòíî ïî ïðåäëîæåíèÿòà:
 Íåêà ïðàâèëàòà çà ïîâåäåíèå äà áúäàò îòäåëíî è äà ãè ñëîæà íà ñåãàøíàòà 
 ñòðàíèöà çà çàïèñâàíå (òàì è ñåãà èìà íÿêîè îò òåçè ïðàâèëà)!
 À ïúê FAQ ñèå  FAQ!!!
 Ùå íàïðàâÿ îòäåëíà ñòàðíèöà çà FAQ.
 Òàêà ÷å àêî èìà æåëàåùè, íåêà ïèøàò è äà ìè ãè ïðàùàò.

Òîâà ðàçäåëåíèå å ìíîãî äîáðå êàòî çàìèñúë è èäåÿ, íî 95% ñúì óáåäåí, ÷å ùå ñè 
îñòàíå ñàìî êàòî òàêîâà. Ò.å. íèêîé íÿìà äà ñåäíå è äà ãî èçïúëíè ;-)

Çà ñåãà èìàìå òîâà: http://danchev.fccf.net/files/faq.html
è ìèñëÿ, ÷å ìîæå äà ñå ïðèåìå êàòî íÿêàêúâ çàâúðøåí âàðèàíò. Ïî÷òè íèêîé íå 
ïîìîãíà ñ ïðåäëîæåíèÿ çà äîïúëíåíèÿ è êîðåêöèè. Çàïî÷âà ñå ñ ó÷òèâî 
ïðåäëîæåíèå òîçè êîéòî ñå çàïèñâà â ëèñòàòà äà ïðî÷åòå ìàëêî çà ëèíóêñ (ò.å. 
äà ñå ñïåñòÿâàò âúïðîñè îò âèäà êâî å ëèíóêñ è êàê äà ñå ëîãíà â íåãî), ñëåä 
òîâà ïîùåíñêè ñïèñúê, ïðåòúðñâàíå íà àðõèâà, ïðàâèëà è ò.í.. Íå å èäåàëíî, íî 
àêî ñå ñúáëþäàâàò òåçè ïðîñòè íåùèöà êîìóíèêàöèÿòà ùå ñå ïîäîáðè äîñòà... È 
ïàê èìà è ùå èìà ïðîáëåìè (ïîíåæå ñìå íà Áàëêàíèòå, òîâà ñå ñðåùà ñàìî òóêà), 
ïàê ñòàðè ïîòðåáèòåëè, íåñìåÿ äà êàæà îïèòíè òàêèâà, ïèøàò ïèñìà íà íîâà òåìà 
reply-âàéêè íà ïèñìî êîåòî å íà ñúâñåì äðóãà òåìà, ñìåíÿò ìó subject è òðèÿò 
body-òî è ïèøàò íåùî ñè... Òîâà îáåñìèñëÿ âñÿêàêâà thread ñîðòèðîâêà... íÿìà 
äà äàâàì ïðèìåðè ñ èìåíà, òî ñè ëè÷è êîè ñà è ãîâîðè çà òîòàëíî íåïîçíàâàíå 
íà óñëóãàòà åë. ïîùà îò êëèåíòñêàòà é ñòðàíà, êâî îñòàâà çà äðóãàòà ... Äà íå 
ãîâîðèì, ÷å íå ñå òðèå èçëèøíèÿ òåêñò è ñå ðàçìÿòà èç ëèñòàòà 
Òàêà, ÷å Ñïàñ êàêòî íàìåðèø çà äîáðå ãî ñëàãàé òîçè FAQ èëè êàêòî èñêàø ãî 
íàðå÷è, öåïè ãî, äåëè ãî, àêî èñêàø è íå ãî ñëàãàé ... Ïðîñòî òîâà å çà ñåãà 
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lug-bg: Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Teodor Georgiev





Ami kak...

Naglasiash edin ot serverite da ti e NTP server. 
Vsichki ostanali mashini shte pitat nego za vremeto na vseki 1 chas 
(primerno).
Toi pyk ot svoq strana shte pita nqkoi svetoven 
publichen time server (i v Bylgaria ima takiva).

Za Windows 2000/XP i Linux ne e problem - tam 
poddryzhkata na NTP e lesna.

Za Windows 98 - trqbwa da si namerish NTP client. 
Imashe nqkyv nemski softuer deto go praveshe.

Za Novell - puskash "TIMESYNC" 
(TIMESYNC.NLM). Ima q kakto v 4, taka i v 5.



  
  - Original Message - 
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  Ïåòúð Ìàðêîâ 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:59 
  AM
  Subject: lug-bg: Àâòîìàòè÷íî ñâåðÿâàíå íà 
  ÷àñîâíèöèòå
  
  Çäðàâåéòå
  
  Ñèãóðíî òîçè âúïðîñ íå å ïîäõîäÿù çà òîçè ôîðóì, íî âñå ïàê 
  ùå ðóñêóâàì äà ïîïèòàì :-)
  
  Ïî íåîáÿñíèìè çà ìåí ïðè÷èíè ìàé äî ñåãà ïðèçâîäèòåëèòå íà 
  êîìïþòðè è êîìþòúðíè êîìïîíåíòè îò âñÿêàêúâ âèäþ ñà ñêëîííè äà ñëàãàò â åäíî 
  PC êàêâî ëè íå íî íå è åäèí ñâåñòåí ÷àñîâíèê È òî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å åäèí 
  ñðàâíèòåëíî òî÷åí êâàðöîâ ÷àñîâíèê ñòðóâà íå ïîâå÷å îò 5 ëåâà ñ 
  îïàêîâêàòà. :-)
  
  
  È òàêà ñå ñòèãà äî ïàðàäîêñà - ìðåæà ñúñ 100 PC-òà îò 
  âñÿêàêúâ êëàñ è íèêîé íå çíàå êîëêî å ÷àñà :-)))
  
  Îò òàì ïúê ñå ðàçäàò Time Server - èòå. è íåîáõîäèìîñòòà 
  îò òÿõ.
  
  Âúïðîñà å:
  Àêî ïðèåì, ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000, 
  Novell, Linux è ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ å 
  íàé-ëåñíî äà ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà âèíàãè äà èì ñå ñâåðÿâàò 
  ÷àñîâíèöèòå íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà. 
?


lug-bg: Re: [ SPAM ] lug-bg: Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Nikolay Hristov



dopalnenie:
a osnovnia ti NTP server e hubavbo da se sveriava 
ot: bg.public.ntp.get-time.net

Nikolay Hristov

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Teodor 
  Georgiev 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:26 
  AM
  Subject: [ SPAM ] lug-bg: Re: lug-bg: 
  Àâòîìàòè÷íî ñâåðÿâàíå íà ÷àñîâíèöèòå
  
  
  
  Ami kak...
  
  Naglasiash edin ot serverite da ti e NTP server. 
  Vsichki ostanali mashini shte pitat nego za vremeto na vseki 1 chas 
  (primerno).
  Toi pyk ot svoq strana shte pita nqkoi svetoven 
  publichen time server (i v Bylgaria ima takiva).
  
  Za Windows 2000/XP i Linux ne e problem - tam 
  poddryzhkata na NTP e lesna.
  
  Za Windows 98 - trqbwa da si namerish NTP client. 
  Imashe nqkyv nemski softuer deto go praveshe.
  
  Za Novell - puskash "TIMESYNC" 
  (TIMESYNC.NLM). Ima q kakto v 4, taka i v 5.
  
  
  

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From: 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:59 
AM
Subject: lug-bg: Àâòîìàòè÷íî ñâåðÿâàíå 
íà ÷àñîâíèöèòå

Çäðàâåéòå

Ñèãóðíî òîçè âúïðîñ íå å ïîäõîäÿù çà òîçè ôîðóì, íî âñå 
ïàê ùå ðóñêóâàì äà ïîïèòàì :-)

Ïî íåîáÿñíèìè çà ìåí ïðè÷èíè ìàé äî ñåãà ïðèçâîäèòåëèòå íà 
êîìïþòðè è êîìþòúðíè êîìïîíåíòè îò âñÿêàêúâ âèäþ ñà ñêëîííè äà ñëàãàò â åäíî 
PC êàêâî ëè íå íî íå è åäèí ñâåñòåí ÷àñîâíèê È òî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å åäèí 
ñðàâíèòåëíî òî÷åí êâàðöîâ ÷àñîâíèê ñòðóâà íå ïîâå÷å îò 5 ëåâà ñ 
îïàêîâêàòà. :-)


È òàêà ñå ñòèãà äî ïàðàäîêñà - ìðåæà ñúñ 100 PC-òà îò 
âñÿêàêúâ êëàñ è íèêîé íå çíàå êîëêî å ÷àñà :-)))

Îò òàì ïúê ñå ðàçäàò Time Server - èòå. è 
íåîáõîäèìîñòòà îò òÿõ.

Âúïðîñà å:
Àêî ïðèåì, ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000, 
Novell, Linux è ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ å 
íàé-ëåñíî äà ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà âèíàãè äà èì ñå ñâåðÿâàò 
÷àñîâíèöèòå íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà. 
  ?


Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Kliment Ognianov




Ïåòúð Ìàðêîâ wrote:
 
 
  
 
  
 
   
  Çäðàâåéòå
 
   
 
  Ñèãóðíî òîçè âúïðîñ íå å ïîäõîäÿù çà òîçè ôîðóì, íî
âñå ïàê ùå  ðóñêóâàì äà ïîïèòàì :-)
 
   
 
  Ïî íåîáÿñíèìè çà ìåí ïðè÷èíè ìàé äî ñåãà ïðèçâîäèòåëèòå
íà  êîìïþòðè è êîìþòúðíè êîìïîíåíòè îò âñÿêàêúâ âèäþ ñà ñêëîííè äà ñëàãàò
â åäíî PC  êàêâî ëè íå íî íå è åäèí ñâåñòåí ÷àñîâíèê È òî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå
÷å åäèí  ñðàâíèòåëíî òî÷åí êâàðöîâ ÷àñîâíèê ñòðóâà íå ïîâå÷å îò 5 ëåâà ñ
îïàêîâêàòà.  :-)
 
   
 
   
 
  È òàêà ñå ñòèãà äî ïàðàäîêñà - ìðåæà ñúñ 100 PC-òà
îò âñÿêàêúâ  êëàñ è íèêîé íå çíàå êîëêî å ÷àñà :-)))
 
   
 
  Îò òàì ïúê ñå ðàçäàò Time Server - èòå. è íåîáõîäèìîñòòà
 îò òÿõ.
 
   
 
  Âúïðîñà å:
 
  Àêî ïðèåì,  ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000,
 Novell, Linux è ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ å
 íàé-ëåñíî äà ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà âèíàãè äà èì ñå ñâåðÿâàò  ÷àñîâíèöèòå
íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà.  ?

Za Windows-ite - pone 2 vuzmojnosti: "net set time time_server"
ot login batch script ili na vseki mu se kazva pootdelno otkude da fetch-va
system time-a, kato vuprosniqt time_server se sverqva na 24h.
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Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Anton Stamenov
am prvish edin time server ntpd pod nqkoq linux machina
i ot tam linuxite s ntpdate ot cron job
a windowsite moje da si drypnesh software za sinhronizirane s time server(ima dosta 
freeware)
ili da izpolzvash net time //timeserver \set
no trqbva da imash podkarana samba na nqkoq linux mashina ne zadyljitelno da e tazi s 
ntpd-to 
za novel ne sym siguren am sigurno ima i tam podhodqsht nachin




On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:59:18 +0200
Ïåòúð Ìàðêîâ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 Çäðàâåéòå
 
 Ñèãóðíî òîçè âúïðîñ íå å ïîäõîäÿù çà òîçè ôîðóì, íî âñå ïàê ùå ðóñêóâàì äà ïîïèòàì 
:-)
 
 Ïî íåîáÿñíèìè çà ìåí ïðè÷èíè ìàé äî ñåãà ïðèçâîäèòåëèòå íà êîìïþòðè è êîìþòúðíè 
êîìïîíåíòè îò âñÿêàêúâ âèäþ ñà ñêëîííè äà ñëàãàò â åäíî PC êàêâî ëè íå íî íå è åäèí 
ñâåñòåí ÷àñîâíèê È òî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å åäèí ñðàâíèòåëíî òî÷åí êâàðöîâ ÷àñîâíèê 
ñòðóâà íå ïîâå÷å îò 5 ëåâà ñ îïàêîâêàòà. :-)
 
 
 È òàêà ñå ñòèãà äî ïàðàäîêñà - ìðåæà ñúñ 100 PC-òà îò âñÿêàêúâ êëàñ è íèêîé íå çíàå 
êîëêî å ÷àñà :-)))
 
 Îò òàì ïúê ñå ðàçäàò Time Server - èòå. è íåîáõîäèìîñòòà îò òÿõ.
 
 Âúïðîñà å:
 Àêî ïðèåì,  ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000, Novell, Linux è ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè 
ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ å íàé-ëåñíî äà ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà 
âèíàãè äà èì ñå ñâåðÿâàò ÷àñîâíèöèòå íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà. ?


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Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread G. Atanassov
linux: slagash na cron (* */1 * * *)  rdate  ili ntpdate  (time serveri 
dal gospod - e ti edin za start - ntp1.pipex.net)
windows: dimension4



Ïåòúð Ìàðêîâ wrote:

Çäðàâåéòå
 
Ñèãóðíî òîçè âúïðîñ íå å ïîäõîäÿù çà òîçè ôîðóì, íî âñå ïàê ùå 
ðóñêóâàì äà ïîïèòàì :-)
 
Ïî íåîáÿñíèìè çà ìåí ïðè÷èíè ìàé äî ñåãà ïðèçâîäèòåëèòå íà êîìïþòðè è 
êîìþòúðíè êîìïîíåíòè îò âñÿêàêúâ âèäþ ñà ñêëîííè äà ñëàãàò â åäíî PC 
êàêâî ëè íå íî íå è åäèí ñâåñòåí ÷àñîâíèê È òî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å 
åäèí ñðàâíèòåëíî òî÷åí êâàðöîâ ÷àñîâíèê ñòðóâà íå ïîâå÷å îò 5 ëåâà ñ 
îïàêîâêàòà. :-)
 
 
È òàêà ñå ñòèãà äî ïàðàäîêñà - ìðåæà ñúñ 100 PC-òà îò âñÿêàêúâ êëàñ è 
íèêîé íå çíàå êîëêî å ÷àñà :-)))
 
Îò òàì ïúê ñå ðàçäàò Time Server - èòå. è íåîáõîäèìîñòòà îò òÿõ.
 
Âúïðîñà å:
Àêî ïðèåì,  ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000, Novell, Linux è 
ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ å íàé-ëåñíî äà 
ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà âèíàãè äà èì ñå ñâåðÿâàò ÷àñîâíèöèòå 
íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà. ?




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Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Ïåòúð Ìàðêîâ wrote:
 Ñèãóðíî òîçè âúïðîñ íå å ïîäõîäÿù çà òîçè ôîðóì, íî âñå ïàê ùå ðóñêóâàì äà ïîïèòàì 
:-)

Ìíîãî ñè å ïîäõîäÿù äàæå :)

 Ïî íåîáÿñíèìè çà ìåí ïðè÷èíè ìàé äî ñåãà ïðèçâîäèòåëèòå íà êîìïþòðè è êîìþòúðíè 
êîìïîíåíòè îò âñÿêàêúâ âèäþ ñà ñêëîííè äà ñëàãàò â åäíî PC êàêâî ëè íå íî íå è åäèí 
ñâåñòåí ÷àñîâíèê È òî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å åäèí ñðàâíèòåëíî òî÷åí êâàðöîâ ÷àñîâíèê 
ñòðóâà íå ïîâå÷å îò 5 ëåâà ñ îïàêîâêàòà. :-)
 È òàêà ñå ñòèãà äî ïàðàäîêñà - ìðåæà ñúñ 100 PC-òà îò âñÿêàêúâ êëàñ è íèêîé íå çíàå 
êîëêî å ÷àñà :-)))
 
 Îò òàì ïúê ñå ðàçäàò Time Server - èòå. è íåîáõîäèìîñòòà îò òÿõ.
 
 Âúïðîñà å:
 Àêî ïðèåì,  ÷å èìàìå åäíà LAN ñúñ ñúðâúðè ñ Win2000, Novell, Linux è ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè 
ñúñ Linux è Windows 9x êàê ñïîðåä âàñ å íàé-ëåñíî äà ñå íàïðàâè òàêà, ÷å åäèí ïúò çà 
âèíàãè äà èì ñå ñâåðÿâàò ÷àñîâíèöèòå íà âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ïîíå åäèí ïúò íà 24 ÷àñà. ?

Îïèòàé chrony* çà NIX ìàøèíèòå. ×åñòíî êàçàíî ntpd å pain in the ass.
Ñèíõðîíèçèðà ñå óæàñÿâàùî áàâíî, îñâåí òîâà ïîíå àç íå óñïÿõ äà ãî íàêàðàì
åäíîâðåìåííî äà ñèíõðîíèçèðà ÷àñîâíèêà íà PC-òî íà êîåòî ðàáîòè è äà
ïðåäîñòàâÿ äîñòúï íà äðóãè PC-òà äà ñå ñèíõðîíèçèðàò ïî íåãî. Íÿìàì
íàìåðåíèå äà îòäåëÿì ñïåöèàëíî çà ntp 3 (ÒÐÈ!) ìàøèíè íà êîéòî äà èìàì
çàêà÷åí âúíøåí ÷àñîâíèê. Íà âñè÷êèòå ìè ìàøèíè èìàì ïóñíàòî chrony è
ðàáîòè êàêòî ñå î÷àêâà áåç èçíåíàäè. Ïîääúðæà ntp ïðîòîêîëà òàêà ÷å
âñÿêàêâè êëèåíòè ìîãàò äà ãî ïîëçâàò (àõúì, äîðè è ÓÈíäîëñèòå).

* - http://chrony.sunsite.dk/

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Re: lug-bg: Re: [ SPAM ] lug-bg: Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Damyan Ivanov
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:38:55AM +0200 Nikolay Hristov wrote:
 dopalnenie:
 a osnovnia ti NTP server e hubavbo da se sveriava ot: bg.public.ntp.get-time.net

Àìà òåçè âñè÷êèòå ñà èçâúí Áúëãàðèÿ. Äà çíàåø íÿêîé ïî-áëèçúê?


äàì

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Re: lug-bg:

2003-01-17 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Friday 17 January 2003 10:54, G. Atanassov wrote:

Za Windows ima i edin free ntp client NetTime ako ne se luza se kazvashe, 
suvsem dobur si e. Google za spravki :)

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lug-bg: fast mailing... w/o mail list

2003-01-17 Thread raptor
hi,

s postfix sam, nqkoi da znae lesen i byrz nachin chrez koito da pratq mail na wsichki 
email adresi... bez da si instaliram maillist software ... i bez da pylnq CC:-to...
Towa koeto mi idwa na akyla w momenta (pseudo code) :

open ALIASES, /etc/postfix/aliases ...;
while () {
$email = $_ =~ /(^.*?:)/;
qx{cat theLetter.txt | mail -s ehooo $email }
}
close ALIASES

nqkoi da znae nesto drugo (kak se inject-washe email w postfix-a)
a pak i nqmam sendmail i mail nqma da warwi mai !?

thanx
raptor

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Re: lug-bg: SFTP bez validen shell

2003-01-17 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Blagodaria na vsichki, koito otgovoriha po zasegnata ot men tema.

Profesionalistyt si lichi ot dalech... bih kazal az. Georgi dade nai-
uspeshnoto i byrzo prilozhimo prilozhenie (pri tova sravnitelno
dobre documentirano).

Opitah go i naistina raboti. Ideiata e da nakaram dosegashnite
potrebiteli na edin FTP server vyrhu mashina, koiato upravliavam
distancionno da ne polzvat FTP, zashtoto imashe podslushvane,
dumpvane na paroli i posle iztrivane na failove ot lichnite directorii
na potrebitelite. Za da ne se sluchva tova reshih da gi nakaram da
izpolzvat za otdalechen dostyp edin client za Windows: WinSCP 
Poveche informacia za nego ima na:

http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/

Potrebitelite sa hora, koito na sa sklonni da polzvat LINUX taka, che
ne byrzaite da me rugaete, che ne sym preporychal reshenie v 
tozi duh. 

Ot druga strana ne bih iskal te da imat dostyp do shell. Ot druga strana
ako niama shell WinSCP ne deistva. Obiasneno e zashto na saita,
link kym koito dade Georgi:

http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/

Dnes izprobvah tova reshenie i vsichko trygna mnogo dobre...

Oshte vednuzh blagodaria na vsichki, koito se otzovaha i specialno
na Georgi Chorbadzhiyski.

  Pozdravi i pozhelania za uspeh
Vesselin Kolev

On Thursday 16 Jan 2003 18:17, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
 Vesselin Kolev wrote:
  Zdrveite,
V komersialnia analog na OpenSSH e vyzmozhno da se
  pravi SFTP sesia ot user, koito niama validen shell v sistemata.
  Tova stava blagodarenie na dummy-shell.
 
Opitvah razni varianti da napravia tova i s OpenSSH, no ne
  stava...
 
Ima li niakoi predstava dali tova e vyzmozhno izobshto v
  OpenSSH i ako da.. kak stava.

 http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/
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lug-bg: ICQ module za netfilter

2003-01-17 Thread Boris Jordanov
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Guys, po neta ne namiram nishto po temata. Toest namiram i to e, che zasega 
njama. No vse pak - popadal li e njakoi na ip_conntrack_icq ili nesto takova?

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lug-bg: HDD - heeelp

2003-01-17 Thread Plamen


Zdrawejte
Znachi
Po-dolu e kartinkata s HDD.
1.   Wsichko li e nared s nego? Gledam che pri cfdisk niama hda2 ? Nadiawam se che ne 
sam naprawil niakoia belia!!!
2.   hda5 beshe ntfs - tam beshe Win2000Pro i go naprafih kakto se wigda fat32. Pusnah 
instalacionnia disk na redhat8.0 da widia i ot tam diska ot tam da go formatiram/ne 
uspiah/ gledam che toi e fat 32 a drugite vfat?!!!

Koito i da e Linux da pusna hda5 ne se montirwa. Dawa greshka. To oswen fdisk ne 
triabwa li da se formatira po niakakaw nachin sled towa?


3.Moga li po niakakaw nachin ot Linux-a da izchistia MBR? Triabwa da go izchistia.


fdisk

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   * 1   638   5124703+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2   639  4865  33953377+   f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5   639  1859   9807651b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda6  1860  3034   9438156b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda7  3035  3569   4297356b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda8  3570  4278   5695011   83  Linux
/dev/hda9  4279  4344530113+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda10 4345  4865   4184901   83  Linux



cfdisk 2.11n

   Disk Drive: /dev/hda
  Size: 40020664320 bytes
   Heads: 255   Sectors per Track: 63   Cylinders: 4865

 NameFlags  Part Type FS Type[Label]   
  Size (MB)
 
-
 hda1BootPrimary  Win95 FAT32  
5247.73
 hda5Logical  Win95 FAT32[^A]  
10043.07
 hda6Logical  Win95 FAT32  
9664.71
 hda7Logical  Win95 FAT32  
4400.53
 hda8Logical  Linux ext3 [/]   
5831.73
 hda9Logical  Linux swap   
 542.87
 hda10   Logical  Linux ext3 [/1]  
4285.38






Blagodaria na wsichki predwaritelno.



lug-bg: SFTP

2003-01-17 Thread
Vesselin Kolev wrote:

Za da ne se sluchva tova reshih da gi nakaram da
izpolzvat za otdalechen dostyp edin client za Windows: WinSCP 

Äðóã äîáúð êëèåíò å http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ .

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Re: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp

2003-01-17 Thread
ami kak to4no napravi /dev/hda5 da e fat32 i posle kak to4no go montira6 ?
ne stava li taka fdisk /dev/hda - i posle sas m 6te vidi6 razli4nite
komandi sas t moje6 da smeni6 label-a mu na kakuvto iska6 da stane, mosle
w. sled tova sas mkfs ili pak mke2fs -j /dev/hda5 za da stane ext3 a za
pove4e info man mkfs.  posle ako mount-va6 ne linux-ki dql mount -t vfat
/hdaXX /mnt/hdaXX primerno ili tam kakuvto e dqla.   Mislq 4e ne si napravil
failova sistema na /dev/hda5 ???

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Re: lug-bg: SFTP

2003-01-17 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Blagodaria na Ognian. Da, naistina FileZilla e dobyr FTP i SSH2
manager:) no ne e za potrebiteli s osnovni poznania. Tvyrde mnogo
obiasnenia se iskat.

Az go izpolzvam i rabotia s nego, no pone moite opiti da naicha na
raboita s nego povecheto potrebiteli propadnaha:) 

Inache goreshto go preporychvam na vsichki ot lista!

  Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev

On Friday 17 Jan 2003 16:32, Îãíÿí Êóëåâ wrote:
 Vesselin Kolev wrote:
  Za da ne se sluchva tova reshih da gi nakaram da
  izpolzvat za otdalechen dostyp edin client za Windows: WinSCP

 Äðóã äîáúð êëèåíò å http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ .

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Re: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp

2003-01-17 Thread petko dimitroff
znachi tryabva da si opishesh dyalovete vyv faila
/etc/fstab
tam si se vizhda kak tochno da go napravish...
a za MBR ne znam dali mozhesh da go izchistish , no v http://www.linux-bg.org imashe 
edna statiya kak da si napravish boot menager pod win98 i po tozi nachin izbyagvash 
MBR, t.e.
nito edna OS en pishe tam...
tova moga da ti kazha , ako ti e ot pomosht...:)


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Re: lug-bg: ICQ module za netfilter

2003-01-17 Thread Teodor Georgiev

nqma i da namerish, shtoto nqma takyv modul.

Vernoto ime na modula e ip_masq_icq.

Ako iskash  - imam go na src.rpm.



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 Guys, po neta ne namiram nishto po temata. Toest namiram i to e, che
zasega
 njama. No vse pak - popadal li e njakoi na ip_conntrack_icq ili nesto
takova?

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Re: lug-bg: SFTP

2003-01-17 Thread
Vesselin Kolev wrote:

Da, naistina FileZilla e dobyr FTP i SSH2
manager:) no ne e za potrebiteli s osnovni poznania. Tvyrde mnogo
obiasnenia se iskat.


Ìäà.  Ïðåäïîëàãàì, ÷å èìàø ïðåäâèä ÿñíîòàòà íà íà÷àëíèÿ äèàëîã íà 
WinSCP: èìà 5 ïîëåòà, 3 îò êîèòî ñà: èìå íà îòäàëå÷åíèÿ êîìïþòúð, èìå íà 
ïîòðåáèòåë è ïàðîëà.  Îò òîâà ïî-ïðîñòî åäâà ëè ìîæå äà ñå äîêàðà :-)

À FileZilla ñè ÿ ïðåäïî÷èòàì çàðàäè ëèöåíçèòå, à íå ïîðàäè òåõíè÷åñêè 
ïðè÷èíè: WinSCP å FreeWare, à FileZilla å GPL.

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RE: lug-bg: fast mailing... w/o mail list

2003-01-17 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
perl mu e maikata :) ti nali go obichash
az bih go napravil na PHP ;):):)
BIVOL

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lug-bg: fast mailing... w/o mail list


hi,

s postfix sam, nqkoi da znae lesen i byrz nachin chrez koito da pratq mail
na wsichki email adresi... bez da si instaliram maillist software ... i bez
da pylnq CC:-to...
Towa koeto mi idwa na akyla w momenta (pseudo code) :

open ALIASES, /etc/postfix/aliases ...;
while () {
$email = $_ =~ /(^.*?:)/;
qx{cat theLetter.txt | mail -s ehooo $email }
}
close ALIASES

nqkoi da znae nesto drugo (kak se inject-washe email w postfix-a)
a pak i nqmam sendmail i mail nqma da warwi mai !?

thanx
raptor

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Re: lug-bg: fast mailing... w/o mail list

2003-01-17 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Da mislja che Net::SMTP modula na perl e super i e mnogo lesno da si 
napishesh takova prilojenie.
Az lichno bih predpochel JavaMail makar che iziskva poveche pisane.


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lug-bg: HDD DMA

2003-01-17 Thread
Çäðàâåéòå,
ïîÿâè ìè ñå ñòðàííåí ïðîáëåì ñúñ DMA /èëè ïîíå àç ìèñëÿ ÷å å ïðîáëåì òîâà
DMA disabled/, íå çíàì êúäå å ïðè÷èíàòà. Íßêîé ìîæå ëè äà ïîìîãíå.
Èçïîëçâàì slackware ñúñ kernel 2.4.21. Åòî êàêâî ñå ïîëó÷àâà...

hda: ST33210A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM20.5, ATA DISK drive
hda:  
blk: queue c02c0c20, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdb: DMA disabled
blk: queue c02c0d6c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: CD-540E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: DMA disabled
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
hda: 6346368 sectors (3249 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=787/128/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: host protected area = 1
hdb: 40132503 sectors (20548 MB) w/1900KiB Cache, CHS=2498/255/63, UDMA(66)
hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33)

Áëàãîäàðÿ.

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Re: lug-bg: HDD DMA

2003-01-17 Thread Lyubomir Babukchiev
- Original Message -
From: Àòàíàñ Ìàâðîâ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:49 PM
Subject: lug-bg: HDD è DMA

 Çäðàâåéòå,
 ïîÿâè ìè ñå ñòðàííåí ïðîáëåì ñúñ DMA /èëè ïîíå àç ìèñëÿ ÷å å ïðîáëåì òîâà
 DMA disabled/, íå çíàì êúäå å ïðè÷èíàòà. Íßêîé ìîæå ëè äà ïîìîãíå.
 Èçïîëçâàì slackware ñúñ kernel 2.4.21. Åòî êàêâî ñå ïîëó÷àâà...

 hda: ST33210A, ATA DISK drive
 hdb: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM20.5, ATA DISK drive
 hda:
 blk: queue c02c0c20, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
 hdb: DMA disabled
 blk: queue c02c0d6c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
 hdc: CD-540E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
 hdc: DMA disabled
 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
 hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
 hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
 hda: 6346368 sectors (3249 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=787/128/63, UDMA(33)
 hdb: host protected area = 1
 hdb: 40132503 sectors (20548 MB) w/1900KiB Cache, CHS=2498/255/63, UDMA(66)
 hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33)

 Áëàãîäàðÿ.


Ùå äàì ñàìî ïðåäïîëîæåíèÿ:

1. Äà íå ñè çàáðàíèë DMA-òî îò BIOS-a
2. Äà íå áè äà íÿìà ïîäðúæêà â ÿäðîòî
3. Ïðîáâà ëè ñ hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb (hdparm -tT /dev/hdb)

http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA-8.html



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Re: lug-bg: HDD DMA

2003-01-17 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Az  imam dva stari diska Segate ot po 2Gb i s dvata imam systite greshki
i tova e otkakto si update-nah Kernel-a  az uspjah da namerja mjatoto ot 
kydeto idva tazi greshka.
Ta znachi kernela ne moje da nameri  maximalnia LDA Address
no az nemojah da namerja kyde tazi informatzia se izpolzva maj tja samo 
se printva i tova e.
Mislja che moje da ne se trevojish.


Àòàíàñ Ìàâðîâ wrote:

Çäðàâåéòå,
ïîÿâè ìè ñå ñòðàííåí ïðîáëåì ñúñ DMA /èëè ïîíå àç ìèñëÿ ÷å å ïðîáëåì òîâà
DMA disabled/, íå çíàì êúäå å ïðè÷èíàòà. Íßêîé ìîæå ëè äà ïîìîãíå.
Èçïîëçâàì slackware ñúñ kernel 2.4.21. Åòî êàêâî ñå ïîëó÷àâà...

hda: ST33210A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM20.5, ATA DISK drive
hda:  
blk: queue c02c0c20, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdb: DMA disabled
blk: queue c02c0d6c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: CD-540E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: DMA disabled
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
hda: 6346368 sectors (3249 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=787/128/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: host protected area = 1
hdb: 40132503 sectors (20548 MB) w/1900KiB Cache, CHS=2498/255/63, UDMA(66)
hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33)

Áëàãîäàðÿ.

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lug-bg: OFFTOPIC: HDD

2003-01-17 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev



Imam IBM PC 
SERVER 320...
znachi toi ima 
miasto za 6 hot plugged SCSI HDD az sam slojil samo edin
Ima li niakoi 
ideia ot kade moje dase kupia oste takiva hot-plugged diskove za IBM PC SERVER 
?
Iskam da si 
nameria takiva hot-plugged che ujsno mi 
haresvat...
Pozdravi,
BIVOL