lug-bg: Mobipage Direct

2003-03-20 Thread Anton Stamenov
Nqkoq podkaraval li e paging sotware s mobipage?

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lug-bg: Sendmail: TLS bazirani politiki v access_db

2003-03-20 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Zdraveite,

   Napisah pyrvonachalnia variant na documenta za TLS bazirani politiki
v access_db. Materialyt se namira na adres:

http://www.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/linuxdoc/sendmail/tls-relay.html

i e vkliuchen kato glava v rykovodstvoto za Sendmail:

http://www.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/linuxdoc/sendmail/

Za da razberete niakoi neshta, shte vi e nuzhno tova pomoshtno
chetivo:

http://www.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/linuxdoc/CA/


  Pozdravi
  Vesselin Kolev

PS. Zadava se i rykovodstvo na integrirane na klientskia software kym
politikite v access_db (KMain, Netscape/Mozilla Messenger)
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Re: lug-bg: download s wget

2003-03-20 Thread Guentcho Skordev
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 07:35:30PM +0200, Vesselin Kolev wrote:
   Predimstvoto v tozi sluchai e, che filovete se tegliat edin sled 
 drug, a ne ednovremenno. Ako zhelaesh da se tegliat po dva 
 faila... prosto pusni dva wget procesa, na vseki podai razlichen
 file s list ot mp3 linkove.

,  ,  
 ,,,  
wget..

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RE: lug-bg: Mobipage Direct

2003-03-20 Thread Peter Zyumbilev
Ami po princip nai-lesnia variant e mail do 
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Toest nomera da e bez koda :)No paging software required.
Pozdravi,
BIVOL


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Re: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Theodor Milkov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:51:57AM +0200, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
 chestno razpredelenie shte reche kato edin potrebitel si pusne programka
 za downloadvane s mnogo konekcii tova da ne mu dava po-visoka obshta
 skorost otkolkoto na neagresivniq potrevitel kojto si downloadva s
 IE-to.
 
 da, tova oznachava mnogo klasove ili prost fair queueing s podhodqsh
 (golqm) broj opashki i hash po adres na potrebitelq. ot nalichnite
 fair-queue podobni disciplini v linux na nikoq ne moje da i se smenq
 nachina po kojto izbira koj paket v koq virtualna opashka popada.
 Izkjuchenie pravi WRR-to, no to e classfull qdisc, kojto avtomatichno
 syzdava klasove i postavq vseki potrebitel v otdelen klas, taka che ne
 se broi za prost fair-queue.
 mnogoto klasove taka ili inache ti trqbvat za da mojesh osven
 razpredelenie po ravno mejdu potrebitelite da pravish i ogranichenie.
 
 Kakto pisah, polzvame HTB s nad 520 klasa. Nicky pisa che polzva HTB
 1500 klasa. Golemiq broj klasove ne bi trqbvalo da te pritesnqva, vypros
 na podhodqshti skriptove za generirane na stoticite ednakvi potrebiteli.

Iasno. Blagodaria za izcherpatelnia otgovor. Prosto se chudeh dali ne
sum propusnal niakoia vazmojnost za automatic fair queueing na HTB v
stila na sfq ili wrr.

T.e. wrr i sfq ne davat zadovolitelni rezulati v tvoia sluchai?
wrr i sfq sa ednakvo zle ili vse pak wrr e po-dobre no ne dostatachno?

V momenta polzvam htb+sfq, kato hash parametrite na sfq sa promeneni,
taka che da matchva samo dst ip, no ima oshte kakvo da se jelae.

Sas zdrave,

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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-20 Thread Theodor Milkov
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 05:09:40PM -0500, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Vsystnost ima razlichni porducti,
 az predi dve godini napazuravah ot Verisign certificate kojto moje da se 
 izpolzva za 25 web domain-a za Novartis,
 mislja che ima i za 100 i za 250 domain-a, no sa tzjalo systojanie, GTE 
 systo imat multi-domain SSL certificate kojto e
 sravnitelno eftin.
 BTW mislja che Thawte Personal Email Certificate e bezplaten.
cut

Veroiatno ne stava duma za edin certificate, a za mnogo certificates
kupeni na edro? T.e. ne znam za kakvo stava duma, no mi se struva, che
certificate moje da vkliuchva samo edno ime ili poniakoga '*' wildcard,
ama togava malko se gubi smisala...

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Re: lug-bg: Traffic nabliundavane

2003-03-20 Thread Theodor Milkov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:26:37AM +0200, Marian Popov wrote:
 Iskam da gledam za moita si mreja kym kyde otivat
 Naprimer mrejata 10.0.0.0/24 iskam da gledam
 ot taia mreja na kyde otivat packets prez eth0 koito
 mi e izhodiasht interfase za tazi mreja.

tcpdump -i eth0 -n dst net 10.0.0.0/24
tcpdump -i eth0 -n src net 10.0.0.0/24

Da?

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Re: lug-bg: Re: HTB:message in my log

2003-03-20 Thread svetla
eto link kum patch-a 

http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/v3/htb_3.7_delay_bug.patch 



George Danchev writes: 

On 19 03 2003 22:31, svetla wrote:
vremenno opravih problema s htb-to kato: 
1. da beshe kazal samo promqnata v tvoq script, e.g. de polzvash usleep10. 
Malko ora ste se zasiliqt da tyrsqt razlikite v predishniq ti i tozi 
script... 
 
unsleep -a! Dano da izdurji..
makar che iznamerih edin pach..purvo shte probvam taka, da vidia kolko shte
 izdurji
2. URL kym tozi patch ... ne 4e ste go razbereme, prosto da vidime za ko ide 
re4 ... 10x 

--
printk(KERN_EMERG Peace. No flames., panic_timeout);
mdelay(panic_timeout*1000); machine_restart(NULL); 


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RE: lug-bg: Re: HTB:message in my log

2003-03-20 Thread Anton Todorov

Tozi patch sym go slovil i ne pomaga za zabiwaniqta. Osnowno maha chast ot debug 
syobshteniqta. 
No za da se mahnat wsichkite trqbwa da smenish w 
/usr/src/linux-2.4/net/sched/sch_htb.c:
#define HTB_DEBUG 1
na
#define HTB_DEBUG 0

za da ne dympi w kernel log-a pri wsqko izwikwane na tc -s class/qdisc show ...



Anton Todorov
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Lirex Net: +359 (2) 91815

 -Original Message-
 From: svetla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: lug-bg: Re: HTB:message in my log
 
 
 eto link kum patch-a 
 
 http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/v3/htb_3.7_delay_bug.patch 
 
  
 
 George Danchev writes: 
 
  On 19 03 2003 22:31, svetla wrote:
  vremenno opravih problema s htb-to kato:
  
  1. da beshe kazal samo promqnata v tvoq script, e.g. de polzvash 
  usleep10.
  Malko ora ste se zasiliqt da tyrsqt razlikite v predishniq 
 ti i tozi 
  script... 
   
  unsleep -a! Dano da izdurji..
  makar che iznamerih edin pach..purvo shte probvam taka, da vidia 
  kolko shte  izdurji
  
  2. URL kym tozi patch ... ne 4e ste go razbereme, prosto da 
 vidime za 
  ko ide
  re4 ... 10x 
  
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  printk(KERN_EMERG Peace. No flames., panic_timeout);
  mdelay(panic_timeout*1000); machine_restart(NULL); 
  
  
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Re: lug-bg: Mobipage Direct

2003-03-20 Thread Anton Stamenov
v sluchai che mi se e skapal mail servera .
ne mislq che e nai udachnoto reshenie

v smisyl men za tova mi trqbva, uvedomqvane za nqkakvi critical sybitq pri syrvyrite
znam che mobipage predlagat tazi usluga, no 'no more info'

dnes im zvynnah prehvyrliha me na 3-4 telefona i nakraq mi zatvoriha, inache sym 
sklonen da si kupq i tehniqt software
am taka bez info, ne mi se shte



On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:21:41 +0200
Peter Zyumbilev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ami po princip nai-lesnia variant e mail do 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Toest nomera da e bez koda :)No paging software required.
 Pozdravi,
 BIVOL
 
 
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 Subject: lug-bg: Mobipage Direct
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lug-bg: Attach from command prompt

2003-03-20 Thread Anton Stamenov
Zdraveite,

kak moga da izprashtam mail s attach file ot commanden red ili po-tochno ot shell 
script

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Re: lug-bg: Attach from command prompt

2003-03-20 Thread Romeo Ninov
uuencode filename filename|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Regards: Romeo Ninov


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/20/03 04:23 
Zdraveite,

kak moga da izprashtam mail s attach file ot commanden red ili po-tochno ot shell 
script

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Re: lug-bg: Attach from command prompt

2003-03-20 Thread Dancho Mitev

 Zdraveite,

 kak moga da izprashtam mail s attach file ot commanden red ili po-tochno
ot shell script

Towa e neshtoto, koeto ti trqbwa:
http://mmj.dk/biabam/



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Re: lug-bg: Attach from command prompt

2003-03-20 Thread Anton Stamenov
mersi 

tova shte svyrshi rabota
:)))




On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:52:55 +0200
Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 uuencode filename filename|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 Regards: Romeo Ninov
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/20/03 04:23 
 Zdraveite,
 
 kak moga da izprashtam mail s attach file ot commanden red ili po-tochno ot shell 
 script
 
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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-20 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Da stava vypros za otdelni Certificati, prosto se izdva se Root ceritficate
primerno za Firma A i ti se predostavja programka s kojato moje da 
generirash
certificats za opredelen broj domain-i na firma A, koito sa child na A 
Root Certificate, koito ot svoia strana
e child na Verisign ili GTE root certificate, no takyv certificate e 
dosta po-skyp,
dori mislja che e prekaleno skyp za Bg.
Tzjalata tazi istoria s X.509 v.3 e mnogo stara i mrysna igra.
Prez 99 vse digashe mnogo shum za tova, dori SET  stigna
do reshenie Certificate da sysdyrja samo edna declaratzia,
I AM a-specified-entity; (e plus from/to date)i da predostavja 
vyzmojnost za podpisvane i cryptirane,
i certificate trjabva ne da nosi syobstenia i poleta ka to 
Address,Host, Point-of-origin,
a samo da udostverjava identity. E tova predlojenie stigna do congresa i 
tam si ostana
sega trjbva da plastash ne 300$ za edin certificate s kojto da 
importvash v KeyServer i
s kojta da moje da si generirash certificate za kakvoto i da bilo, a za 
vseki otdelen.
Az dori kato rabotih za Merrill Lynch ustanovihme che ako imash edin i 
syst  HTTPS based server kojto raboti na po-veche
ot edna mashina to ti trjabva certificate za vsjaka edna ot tjah.

Theodor Milkov wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 05:09:40PM -0500, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 

Vsystnost ima razlichni porducti,
az predi dve godini napazuravah ot Verisign certificate kojto moje da se 
izpolzva za 25 web domain-a za Novartis,
mislja che ima i za 100 i za 250 domain-a, no sa tzjalo systojanie, GTE 
systo imat multi-domain SSL certificate kojto e
sravnitelno eftin.
BTW mislja che Thawte Personal Email Certificate e bezplaten.
   

cut

Veroiatno ne stava duma za edin certificate, a za mnogo certificates
kupeni na edro? T.e. ne znam za kakvo stava duma, no mi se struva, che
certificate moje da vkliuchva samo edno ime ili poniakoga '*' wildcard,
ama togava malko se gubi smisala...
 




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RE: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Boyan Krosnov
wrr vyrsheshe rabotata koqto se ochakvashe ot nego - t.e. da podelq
trafika po ravno mejdu potrebitelite.
ne sym si igral da promenqm hash funkciqta na sfq-to, no dopuskam che i
s modificirano sfq moje da se svyrshi syshstata rabota po podelqne,
dostatychno dobre.

wrr-to e po-dobro ot sfq-to za tazi cel zashtoto mojesh da nabljudavash
vseki otdelen potrebitel i mojesh da im nastrojvash razlichni
prioriteti, syotvetno skorosti.

Nito wrr-to nito sfq-to obache ne mogat da pravqt ogranichenie na vseki
otdelen potrebitel da ne nadvishava nqkakva predvaritelno definirana
skorost.
tova koeto probahme beshe wrr, kym chiito leaf clasove zakachihme mnogo
tbf-ta. tazi shema bi trqbvalo da raboti no imahme problemi s neq.
(spomenatoto zabravqne da obslujva otdelni potrebiteli, ot koeto se
trupaha mnogo paketi v opashkata na tbf-to, koito nikoga ne se
obslujvaha). Tova prilichashe na bug, no nqmahme vyzmojnost da go
izsledvame.

Vkrajna smetka se sprqhme na varianta samo htb s mnogo klasove.
Razbira se tova izobshto ne oznachava che htb e edinstvenoto raboteshto
reshenie pod linux. Prosto na nas takyv ni beshe kysmeta, che s vsqko
drugo koeto opitahme si imahme problemi.

Nqkoj drug osven men i Nicky, shte spodeli li opit s traffic control pod
free OSes?

BR,
Boyan

-Original Message-
From: Theodor Milkov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue,
etc.


On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:51:57AM +0200, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
 chestno razpredelenie shte reche kato edin potrebitel si pusne
programka
 za downloadvane s mnogo konekcii tova da ne mu dava po-visoka obshta
 skorost otkolkoto na neagresivniq potrevitel kojto si downloadva s
 IE-to.
 
 da, tova oznachava mnogo klasove ili prost fair queueing s podhodqsh
 (golqm) broj opashki i hash po adres na potrebitelq. ot nalichnite
 fair-queue podobni disciplini v linux na nikoq ne moje da i se smenq
 nachina po kojto izbira koj paket v koq virtualna opashka popada.
 Izkjuchenie pravi WRR-to, no to e classfull qdisc, kojto avtomatichno
 syzdava klasove i postavq vseki potrebitel v otdelen klas, taka che ne
 se broi za prost fair-queue.
 mnogoto klasove taka ili inache ti trqbvat za da mojesh osven
 razpredelenie po ravno mejdu potrebitelite da pravish i ogranichenie.
 
 Kakto pisah, polzvame HTB s nad 520 klasa. Nicky pisa che polzva HTB
 1500 klasa. Golemiq broj klasove ne bi trqbvalo da te pritesnqva,
vypros
 na podhodqshti skriptove za generirane na stoticite ednakvi
potrebiteli.

Iasno. Blagodaria za izcherpatelnia otgovor. Prosto se chudeh dali ne
sum propusnal niakoia vazmojnost za automatic fair queueing na HTB v
stila na sfq ili wrr.

T.e. wrr i sfq ne davat zadovolitelni rezulati v tvoia sluchai?
wrr i sfq sa ednakvo zle ili vse pak wrr e po-dobre no ne dostatachno?

V momenta polzvam htb+sfq, kato hash parametrite na sfq sa promeneni,
taka che da matchva samo dst ip, no ima oshte kakvo da se jelae.

Sas zdrave,

-- 
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Davidov Net   Phone: +359 (2) 730158


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Re: lug-bg: Re: HTB:message in my log

2003-03-20 Thread svetla
ozi patch sym go slovil i ne pomaga za zabiwaniqta. Osnowno maha chast ot 
debug syobshteniqta.
No za da se mahnat wsichkite trqbwa da smenish w /usr/src/linux-2.4/net/sched/sch_htb.c:
#define HTB_DEBUG 1
na
#define HTB_DEBUG 0 

za da ne dympi w kernel log-a pri wsqko izwikwane na tc -s class/qdisc show ...


e debug suobshteniata ne mi pre4at.. 

da beshe kazal samo promqnata v tvoq script, e.g. de polzvash 
 usleep10.
kazalA:))) 

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-Original Message-
From: svetla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Re: HTB:message in my log 

eto link kum patch-a  

http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/v3/htb_3.7_delay_bug.patch  

  

George Danchev writes:  

 On 19 03 2003 22:31, svetla wrote:
 vremenno opravih problema s htb-to kato:
 
 1. da beshe kazal samo promqnata v tvoq script, e.g. de polzvash 
 usleep10.
 Malko ora ste se zasiliqt da tyrsqt razlikite v predishniq 
ti i tozi 
 script... 
  
 unsleep -a! Dano da izdurji..
 makar che iznamerih edin pach..purvo shte probvam taka, da vidia 
 kolko shte  izdurji
 
 2. URL kym tozi patch ... ne 4e ste go razbereme, prosto da 
vidime za 
 ko ide
 re4 ... 10x 
 
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Re: lug-bg: Attach from command prompt

2003-03-20 Thread Alexander Velin
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Anton Stamenov wrote:

 kak moga da izprashtam mail s attach file ot commanden red ili po-tochno ot shell 
 script

mpack -s subject file [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(apt-get install mpack. The power of the Debian cannot be undone. :-)

http://packages.debian.org/testing/mail/mpack.html

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Re: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Nickola Kolev
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:49:04 +0200
Theodor Milkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[ cut ]

 A zashto ne htb + wrr kato leaf? Ot tova koeto znam za traffic control
 vav Linux, ne stava iasno dali classful queueing moje da bade leaf na
 drug classful queueing...

Dokolkoto znam, sled kato vednyzh si prikachil kym dadeno ustroistvo edin 
tip classful queueing disciplina, da rechem CBQ, ne mojesh po negovite leaves 
da slagash drug takyv, naprimer HTB.

[ cut ]

 Tova koeto az polzvam e obsht htb class za tip usluga, razdelen na po
 malki podklasove ot po 10-ina potrebitelia (IP-ta) sas zakacheni dst
 matching sfq kato leaf clasove za fair queueing. Raboti gore-dolu dobre.
 Vsashtnost edinstvenia nedostatak e, che sfq niakaksi ne e dostatachno
 barz ili fair. Kogato niakoi okupira kanala, drugite mogat da go
 izmestiat, no dosta bavno (10-ina secundi?) i laga (ping do koe da e IP
 ot grupata) kato cialo e golemichak. S namaliavane na daljinata na
 opashkite na sfq saobrazno skorostta laga malko vliza v granici
 (default-a ot 128 packets e too long za 64kbps napr.), no vse oshte ne e
 dostatachno dobre ;-)

Mojesh da namalish perturb-aciqta na SFQ, no tova (pone po moi otdavnashni
testove) uvelichava CPU overhead i pribavq (kolkoto i da e stranno) latency.

 Bez sfq razbira se e tragichno. Postepenno se opitvat da se namestiat
 sesiite no 1 che otnema minuti i 2 che ako niakoi pusne multiple
 sessions zaema proporcionalna chast ot kanala. T.e. sfq raboti.

Raboti si, kakvo da mu e. ;) Ako ne e taina, kakyv e bandwidth-a, zadelen
za leaves pri teb? Zashtoto pri men bolshinstvoto sa s otnositelno malka
shirina - 64, 128, 256Kbit/s. Moje bi stava problemno, ako pravish mnogo na
broi i golemi (kato bandwidth) lista... Za syzhalenie ne sym zapoznat s inner
working na razlichnite vidove scheduling.

 Chudeh se ako go zamenia s wrr kak shte se chuvstva. Nai-veroiatno kato
 mi ostane dostatachno svobodno vreme (shototo moite lichni queues sa se
 raztegnali chak do nachaloto na juni ;-D) shte izprobvam niakoi novi
 varianti. Ako niakoi obache ima opit...

Ima edna mnogo interesna razrabotka na http://www.ssi.bg/~alex/esfq/index.html
Hvyrli i edin pogled.

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RE: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Boyan Krosnov
 A zashto ne htb + wrr kato leaf? Ot tova koeto znam za traffic control
 vav Linux, ne stava iasno dali classful queueing moje da bade leaf na
 drug classful queueing...
I tova probvahme. Ako prochetesh pyrviq mi mail v tozi thread, shte
vidish vsichki varianti, koito sme probvali. da se citiram sebe si za da
ne rovish:
HTB za obshtite klasove + WRR za otdelnite potrebiteli (samo
razpredelenie, bez ogranichenie) - raboti, no e znachitelno po-tochno
Raboti i tova, no kakto moje da se ochakva ne mojesh s nego da
ogranichavash vseki otdelen ip adres na nqkakva maksimalna skorost, a
tova e koeto ni trqbva v sluchaq. T.k. potrebitelite sa mnogo i imat po
tochno edin ip adres i uslugata e ot takyv (ogranichen ot gore) tip.
V tozi sluchaj polzvahme htb-to za ogranichenie na golemi grupi useri i
wrr-to za ravno razpredelenie mejdu potrebitelite v edna grupa.

 Tova koeto az polzvam e obsht htb class za tip usluga, razdelen na po
 malki podklasove ot po 10-ina potrebitelia (IP-ta) sas zakacheni dst
 matching sfq kato leaf clasove za fair queueing. Raboti 
 gore-dolu dobre.
 Vsashtnost edinstvenia nedostatak e, che sfq niakaksi ne e dostatachno
 barz ili fair. Kogato niakoi okupira kanala, drugite mogat da go
 izmestiat, no dosta bavno (10-ina secundi?) i laga (ping do 
 koe da e IP
 ot grupata) kato cialo e golemichak. S namaliavane na daljinata na
 opashkite na sfq saobrazno skorostta laga malko vliza v granici
 (default-a ot 128 packets e too long za 64kbps napr.), no vse 
 oshte ne e
 dostatachno dobre ;-)
Mislil li si dali efekta s golemite delay-i ne se dylji na prekomerna
preupotreba na kapaciteta?
Primerno 64 kilobita s 10 aktivni (tegleshti) potrebitelq vseki ot koito
popada v otdelen service flow i imash 1500 baitovi paketi za vseki
potrebitel.
Ednoposochniq delay za prekarvane na edin paket kym 11-ti potrebitel
prez takava opashka e _sredno_ 2 sekundi. Delay-a idva ot tova che
trqbva vseki potrebitel da byde obslujvan i ne mojesh da obslujvash
po-malko ot quantum (minimum 1500 bytes) na potrebitel.
Ta ako imash prekomerna preupotreba na kapaciteta, t.e. mnogo
potrebiteli za koito imash paketi chakashti na opashka pri teb ne mojesh
da reshish problema sys zakysneniqta po prostata prichina che vsichki
potrebiteli trqbva da bydat obslujeni.
Ima nachin da dropish paketi pri preupotreba ot nqkoj potrebitel, no
taka ili inache ne mojesh da pazish po-malko ot edin paket na opashka na
potrebitel, koeto e dostatychno za da se vdigne delay-a do nebesata, v
sluchaj che imash seriozno pretovarvane.

BR,
Boyan

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Re: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Theodor Milkov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:21:09PM +0200, Nickola Kolev wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:49:04 +0200
 Theodor Milkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [ cut ]
 
  A zashto ne htb + wrr kato leaf? Ot tova koeto znam za traffic control
  vav Linux, ne stava iasno dali classful queueing moje da bade leaf na
  drug classful queueing...
 
 Dokolkoto znam, sled kato vednyzh si prikachil kym dadeno ustroistvo edin 
 tip classful queueing disciplina, da rechem CBQ, ne mojesh po negovite leaves 
 da slagash drug takyv, naprimer HTB.

A eto - spored Boian moje ;-) Znachi shte se testva...

cut
 Raboti si, kakvo da mu e. ;) Ako ne e taina, kakyv e bandwidth-a, zadelen
 za leaves pri teb? Zashtoto pri men bolshinstvoto sa s otnositelno malka
 shirina - 64, 128, 256Kbit/s. Moje bi stava problemno, ako pravish mnogo na
 broi i golemi (kato bandwidth) lista... Za syzhalenie ne sym zapoznat s inner
 working na razlichnite vidove scheduling.
cut

Razlichno - ot 64 do 576 Kbit/s. Pri po-barzite e po-dobre. Srabotvat
po-barzo sfq-ta, predpolagam zashtoto trnsmit-a na 1 quantum otnema
po-malko vreme...
Vsashtnost dosta dobre si raboti systemata. Prosto na men mi se iska
niakak si oshte po-dobre ako moje ;-)

cut
 Ima edna mnogo interesna razrabotka na http://www.ssi.bg/~alex/esfq/index.html
 Hvyrli i edin pogled.
cut

M'da. Popadnah tia dni na nego. Shte mi spesti compiliraneto na sfq s
promeneneni parametri. Merci za link-a vse pak.

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Re: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Theodor Milkov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:38:56PM +0200, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
cut
  Tova koeto az polzvam e obsht htb class za tip usluga, razdelen na
  po malki podklasove ot po 10-ina potrebitelia (IP-ta) sas zakacheni
  dst matching sfq kato leaf clasove za fair queueing. Raboti
  gore-dolu dobre.  Vsashtnost edinstvenia nedostatak e, che sfq
  niakaksi ne e dostatachno barz ili fair. Kogato niakoi okupira
  kanala, drugite mogat da go izmestiat, no dosta bavno (10-ina
  secundi?) i laga (ping do koe da e IP ot grupata) kato cialo e
  golemichak. S namaliavane na daljinata na opashkite na sfq saobrazno
  skorostta laga malko vliza v granici (default-a ot 128 packets e too
  long za 64kbps napr.), no vse oshte ne e dostatachno dobre ;-)

 Mislil li si dali efekta s golemite delay-i ne se dylji na prekomerna
 preupotreba na kapaciteta?  Primerno 64 kilobita s 10 aktivni
 (tegleshti) potrebitelq vseki ot koito popada v otdelen service flow i
 imash 1500 baitovi paketi za vseki potrebitel.

Ne, ne e tova. Dostatachni sa 3 download sesii za da se vdigne lag-a na
okolo 1 secunda. Iavno reshenieto e po-malki grupi i daljina na
opashkite saobrazena sas skorostta (na parent class).

 Ednoposochniq delay za prekarvane na edin paket kym 11-ti potrebitel
 prez takava opashka e _sredno_ 2 sekundi. Delay-a idva ot tova che
 trqbva vseki potrebitel da byde obslujvan i ne mojesh da obslujvash
 po-malko ot quantum (minimum 1500 bytes) na potrebitel.  Ta ako imash
 prekomerna preupotreba na kapaciteta, t.e. mnogo potrebiteli za koito
 imash paketi chakashti na opashka pri teb ne mojesh da reshish
 problema sys zakysneniqta po prostata prichina che vsichki potrebiteli
 trqbva da bydat obslujeni.
 Ima nachin da dropish paketi pri preupotreba ot nqkoj potrebitel, no
 taka ili inache ne mojesh da pazish po-malko ot edin paket na opashka
 na potrebitel, koeto e dostatychno za da se vdigne delay-a do
 nebesata, v sluchaj che imash seriozno pretovarvane.

Sas zdrave,

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Re: lug-bg: Traffic nabliundavane

2003-03-20 Thread Marian Popov
Super tochno tova mi triabvashe ma kak ne se
setih na prednia ti posting da pusha src net.

Blagodaria mnogo.

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- Original Message -
From: Theodor Milkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Traffic nabliundavane


 On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:26:37AM +0200, Marian Popov wrote:
  Iskam da gledam za moita si mreja kym kyde otivat
  Naprimer mrejata 10.0.0.0/24 iskam da gledam
  ot taia mreja na kyde otivat packets prez eth0 koito
  mi e izhodiasht interfase za tazi mreja.

 tcpdump -i eth0 -n dst net 10.0.0.0/24
 tcpdump -i eth0 -n src net 10.0.0.0/24

 Da?

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Re: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Nickola Kolev
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:17:30 +0200
Theodor Milkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[ cut ]

  Dokolkoto znam, sled kato vednyzh si prikachil kym dadeno ustroistvo edin 
  tip classful queueing disciplina, da rechem CBQ, ne mojesh po negovite leaves 
  da slagash drug takyv, naprimer HTB.
 
 A eto - spored Boian moje ;-) Znachi shte se testva...

 - ,   . :)   
  wrr  ,  sfq,   ,
  

tc class add dev eth0 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 20Mbit ceil 20Mbit

tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:2 cbq bandwidth 100Mbit rate 5Mbit \
weight 500Kbit allot 1514 cell 8 mpu 64 prio 5 bounded isolated \   
maxburst 10 minburst 0 avpkt 1514

tc   ,. ,   
,   wrr ( 
 classful,  -classful )
   HTB  CBQ,  CBQ   HTB.
 . , !

[ cut ]
 Razlichno - ot 64 do 576 Kbit/s. Pri po-barzite e po-dobre. Srabotvat
 po-barzo sfq-ta, predpolagam zashtoto trnsmit-a na 1 quantum otnema
 po-malko vreme...
[ cut ]

 , .   ,quantum-, 
sfq -?  ...

 ,   2 quantum  htb,  
 (r2q).
 -  ,  
 95%  leaves (  :), load
average  2,  , ..   
 quantum  htb,0.30-0.40 load average  2.5  5 Mb/s
.

 M'da. Popadnah tia dni na nego. Shte mi spesti compiliraneto na sfq s
 promeneneni parametri. Merci za link-a vse pak.

lartc ,  ,   
  production .

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Re: lug-bg: htb, cbq, wrr, red, gred, csz, wfq, hfsc, blue, etc.

2003-03-20 Thread Theodor Milkov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:46:59PM +0200, Nickola Kolev wrote:
 [ cut ]
  Razlichno - ot 64 do 576 Kbit/s. Pri po-barzite e po-dobre. Srabotvat
  po-barzo sfq-ta, predpolagam zashtoto trnsmit-a na 1 quantum otnema
  po-malko vreme...
 [ cut ]
 
  , .   ,quantum-, 
 sfq -?  ...


Ne. Imah predvid, che za da se transmitne minimalnoto kolichestvo danni
- quantum (kvant) pri class s visoka skorost e neobhodimo po-malko vreme
i ottam po kratkoto vreme za reakcia i po-goliamata interaktivnost.
Pone takiva sa subectivnite mi nabliudenia i izvodi - ne sum provejdal
istinski testove.

Sas zdrave,

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lug-bg: Running MRTG as daemon or what ?

2003-03-20 Thread Marian Popov
Zdraveite !

Opitvam da naucha malko poveche za mrtg i po-tochno
kak da go nakaram da iade po-malko cpu.

V momenta puskam mrtg v crontab-a na vseki 5 minuti
znete kak e. Da obache imam okolo 200 grafiki koito
triabva dase update-vat i tova mi vsima 75% ot cpu-to
pochti postoianno.

Tyrsih razni neshta v google i vidiah che moje da se 
puska kato daemon no neshto ne shvanah smisala.
Ako gusna mrtg --daemon to togava triabav li da 
mahna ot crona update-vaneto na vseki 5 min i ako da
to togava ot kyde mrtg daemona shte znae ot koi file
da chete i na kolko minuti da updateva i razni takiva neshta
me mychat.

Drugo neshto e che ne sym siguren dali puskaneto
na mrtg --daemon shte mi oblekchi sistemata.

Iskam da poiasnia che statistikite se vzimat ot MySQL.

Neka ako niakoi ima opit da podskaje niakoia ideia.

Blagodaria.

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Re: lug-bg: OpenPGP Keyserver Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Vesselin Kolev
Blagodaria mnogo za informaciata.

Interesnoto v sluchaia e, che programata PGP FreeWare ima interface
za keyserver, koito pak obshtuva s web interface-a na servera, no tam niama
tozi problem. Sega shte razgledam source code-a na PGP imenno v chastta
za tozi key browser. Edinstveniata nachin tozi PGP FreeWare da izbiagva
tozi bug e .. da izteglia kliuchovete pri sebe si, da opredelia pravilno
sherstnadesetichnoto im ID i fingerprint. GNUPG napravo obshtuva s
web interface-a na keyservera i zatova dava neprevilni otgovori.

Interesnoto e, che problemyt otsystva pri LDAP bazirani interface-i na
keyserverite (makar, che sa ot syshtata versia kato tezi, koito se polzvat
za osnova na web interface-ite). Naprimer ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com.

  Mnogo blagodaria na Pavel za otgovora. Pone mi spesti pisnae do MIT.

Pozdravi i blagodarnosti

   Vesselin Kolev

Pavel wrote:

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 On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:49:36 +0200
 George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 19 03 2003 11:04, Vesselin Kolev wrote:
   Zdraveite,
  Vchera, pri opit da exportirame certificate sydyrzhasht 4096 baziran
   signing key (RSA), az i Georgi Danchev se natyknahme na edin mnogo
   stranen problem. Postavianeto na certificate na servera proticha normalno,
   no sled tova servera ne pokazva korektno nito user-id shestnadesetichnia
   nomer, nito fingerprinta. Efekta e povtorim, t.e. nabliudava se na
   razlichni key-serveri, koito rabotiat s razlichen software za obsluzhvane
   na certifikatite.
 
  Molq ako nqkoj e uspql da ka4i i nabludava prez web iface svoq 4096 RSA
  korektno (HEX No, Finger) da spodelina koi e key server-a ;-)
 

 Zdrasti
 tozi problem se dylji na bug v pks server-a
 komentiran e v gnupg-users-list i drugi..
 i az predi vreme se natyknah na nego dokato si uploadvah RSA klu4a
 cqlata rabota e v tva 4e keyserver-a smqta ID i fingerprint za RSA v3,a tvoq klu4 e 
 v4
 eto nqkolko link-a
 http://www.dtype.org/pipermail/keyanalyze-discuss/2002-March/40.html
 http://lists.kjsl.com/pipermail/pgp-keyserver-folk/2003-January/000657.html

 a vish na keyserver.bu.edu mai nqma tozi problem
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Re: lug-bg: Running MRTG as daemon or what ?

2003-03-20 Thread Romeo Ninov
Shto ne opitahs cacti?
Towa e s/w, kojto izpolzwa framework-a na rrdtool, no generatsiata na messages move da 
stawa sas CGI t.e. ne e zadalvitelno wseki 5 minuti da generirash grafikite, a i dawa 
razlitshno view w zawisimost ot i zashtiteno s ime/parola


Regards: Romeo Ninov


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/21/03 02:06 
Zdraveite !

Opitvam da naucha malko poveche za mrtg i po-tochno
kak da go nakaram da iade po-malko cpu.

V momenta puskam mrtg v crontab-a na vseki 5 minuti
znete kak e. Da obache imam okolo 200 grafiki koito
triabva dase update-vat i tova mi vsima 75% ot cpu-to
pochti postoianno.

Tyrsih razni neshta v google i vidiah che moje da se 
puska kato daemon no neshto ne shvanah smisala.
Ako gusna mrtg --daemon to togava triabav li da 
mahna ot crona update-vaneto na vseki 5 min i ako da
to togava ot kyde mrtg daemona shte znae ot koi file
da chete i na kolko minuti da updateva i razni takiva neshta
me mychat.

Drugo neshto e che ne sym siguren dali puskaneto
na mrtg --daemon shte mi oblekchi sistemata.

Iskam da poiasnia che statistikite se vzimat ot MySQL.

Neka ako niakoi ima opit da podskaje niakoia ideia.

Blagodaria.

--
Marian Popov
Siterm Engeneering Ltd.
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