[LUTE] Shiro Arai Lutes
Hi - I am advising someone about buying a lute. What is the collective wisdom on Shiro Arai's work, from 1977. An Aria lute. This appears to still have the heavy lute style pegbox and crude rosette. Would this be a 60's style heavy lute, or a light post '75 lute? Wayne http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7358476361rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [VIHUELA] Re: rain ...origins of guitar
At 10:08 PM 10/23/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Does Wright ignore the most logical reason for the waist on an instrument, that is bow accomodation??? Evidently, given that he only discusses plucked things in isolation. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten
Dear All, I'm wondering if anyone has done/knows of a translation of the preface of Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten into English. If not, and if there are any German speakers out there who might be willing to do one, I might well be able to email them a good quality digicam version of the entire document in return. All best to all! Benjamin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten
Mathias probably has one :-) If not, I might volunteer. g Zitat von Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, I'm wondering if anyone has done/knows of a translation of the preface of Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten into English. If not, and if there are any German speakers out there who might be willing to do one, I might well be able to email them a good quality digicam version of the entire document in return. All best to all! Benjamin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [VIHUELA] Re: rain ...origins of guitar
Does Wright ignore the most logical reason for the waist on an instrument, that is bow accomodation??? I don't think he actually mentions it but the instruments he discusses are all played with a plectrum. But bowed instruments don't always have waists..the rebec for example... Monica To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten
Benjamin, Yes, indeed; it is available. Stephan Lundgren published a book, The Baroque Lute Companion, in 1993 in his series of Lungren Editions, Munchen. This is a comprehensive book, and is a modern tutor for technique playing, and it has many, many musical examples. As well, in this book, it contains translations in English, of the Prefaces for: 1. Esias Reusner Neue Lauten Fruchte 1676 2. Denis Gaultier Livre de Tablature de Pieces de Luth 1680 3. Jaques de Gallot Pieces de Lvth 1684 4. Phillipp Franz LeSage de Richee Cabinet der Lauten 1695 5. Charles Mouton Pieces de Luth 1698 For the price of the book, it is worth it for the translations themselves. ed At 04:33 PM 10/24/2005 +0100, Benjamin Narvey wrote: Dear All, I'm wondering if anyone has done/knows of a translation of the preface of Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten into English. If not, and if there are any German speakers out there who might be willing to do one, I might well be able to email them a good quality digicam version of the entire document in return. All best to all! Benjamin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
[LUTE] Re: Shiro Arai Lutes
I used to have one. It was fairly light to compare it to a Bream style galut,e but not as light as my current Venere copy. Mine was from around 1984, I think, so it may have evolved somewhat from the 77 model. What looked like spacers between ribs were actually pin stripes painted on. I had to have the top removed at one point because a brace came loose. Since taking the top off is rather major, Hiro built me a new top. He said he put the bridge nearer the end because it should have been there in the first place. With the new top it sounded pretty good. My main complaint was with the neck which is quite wide at the nut, more suited to someone coming from classical guitar. For $800 including case, I'm not really sure. That's what I sold mine for. I haven't ever seen one of the infamous Pakistani lutes nor know how much they go for. What else, if anything, is available in this price range? I thought there was a maker who was specializing in making beginner lutes for around a thousand dollars. I'd be a little concerned that it is 30 years old and it's a bit of a bastard instrument. That is, if it is the model that I had, it is not a copy of a historical instrument. I was offered two Aria lutes, both the same price, when I got mine. One was a copy of a historic 7 course. Stupid me, I thought I was getting more value by getting the 8 course model and chose that one! It was a long time ago. Blush. cheers, On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:09 PM, Wayne Cripps wrote: I am advising someone about buying a lute. What is the collective wisdom on Shiro Arai's work, from 1977. An Aria lute. This appears to still have the heavy lute style pegbox and crude rosette. Would this be a 60's style heavy lute, or a light post '75 lute? Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten
Benjamin There is an article in the 1976 Journal of the Lute Society of America entitled, How Beginners Should Proceed: the Lute Instructions of Lesage De Richee. The translation of instructions is not actually from Cabinet der Lauten, but from a manuscript (mf 2002) in the University Library in Wroclaw. There are 22 statements of instructions, numbers 3 to 17 taken word for word from Cabinet der Lauten. The other statements refer to 13 course lutes. If you don't have access to this journal I can make a photo copy for you, if you like. Ken Brodkey -Original Message- From: Benjamin Narvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:34 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten Dear All, I'm wondering if anyone has done/knows of a translation of the preface of Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten into English. If not, and if there are any German speakers out there who might be willing to do one, I might well be able to email them a good quality digicam version of the entire document in return. All best to all! Benjamin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lute care during arid conditions.
Suppose your humidity goes down to the 30-40% range. Might one, in an effort to maintain humidity within the lute, safely blow into the soundhole once an hour or so? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten
- Original Message - From: Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten Hi, there are some traps in the German text, especially words that have changed their meaning since then. So if somebody would offer the two translations (Lundgren and the 1976 LSA text mentioned by Ken) I could have a look whether they are correct. Of course, I could also translate it, but if it has been done already twice... best wishes Bernd - Original Message - From: Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: [LUTE] Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten Dear All, I'm wondering if anyone has done/knows of a translation of the preface of Le Sage de Richee's Cabinet der Lauten into English. If not, and if there are any German speakers out there who might be willing to do one, I might well be able to email them a good quality digicam version of the entire document in return. All best to all! Benjamin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute care during arid conditions.
Herbert Ward wrote: Suppose your humidity goes down to the 30-40% range. Welcome to the American southwest. Might one, in an effort to maintain humidity within the lute, safely blow into the soundhole once an hour or so? Well, I don't think the lute will slap your face, if that's what you're asking. For humidification purposes, you might do better to stick an apple in the case. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Three RJohnson pieces concordances
Jose Luis Rojo wrote: Hello all, In the CD The Golden Age Restor'd, Lynda Sayce plays three pieces from Chapman's masque Middle Temple and Lincon´s Inn writte for the princess's wedding Elizabeth, daughter of James I These three pieces are in the Krakow ms (Ballets 2, 4 y 5) but they are not the same versions that Lynda plays. A few concordances (I don't know the CD): Masque 1: treble + Bass 10444 103v/1 The first of the Prince his treble + Bass 1044454r/1 The first of the Prince his mandora Skene44 Prince Henreis Maske. lyra viol Browne 76r The Princes Dance. lyra viol Boynton 90v Princes Maske. lute406411r/2 No Title luteBoard 30v/2 The la: Elyza: her masque luteBoard 28r/1 The Princis Masque luteWestminster 1r/1ye princis mask tune keyboard5612 1/1 The Princes Mask keyboardCromwell10v-11r The Princes Masque keyboardOch 92 10r Tapp up all yor strong Beere: keyboard1185342-343 Lincolles Inne Mask: / Or: Gibb: keyboardDralliusNo. 197 Mascharada H. S. M. keyboardZweibrücken No. 104 Mascarata keyboardBoynton 37r The Prince's masque. instrumental ensemble 734 Seq. 2, No. 5 Almande R.J. instrumental ensemble Brade No. 31 Der erste Mascharada des Pfaltzgraffen Masque 2: keyboard5612 1/2 A Masque lute406411v/2-2r/1 Ballet keyboardOch 92 4r The Princes Maske. treble + Bass 1044454r/2 The second treble + Bass 10444 103v/2 The second. luteNn.6.36 18v/3 Maske keyboardFWVB310/4-311 Alman instrumental ensemble Brade No. 32 Der ander Mascharada instrumental ensemble 734 Seq. 2, No. 6 Almande R.J. Masque 3: lute406412r/2 54 / Ballet keyboard9449 4r-5v Almayne treble + Bass 1044454v/1 The third treble + Bass 10444 104r/1 The third luteNn.6.36 18v/2 Maske cittern Dresden 154847v-48r Mascarada luteMontbuysson 78r ballet instrumental ensemble Brade No. 33 Der dritte mascharada Rainer adS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute care during arid conditions.
There are humidifinig devices available for guitars in the music shops. I suppose these could also be used for a Lute. Also tabaco shops sell similar devices for cigar and pipe tobaco, these too should work. Blowing into the sound hole every hour or so could be discouraging after a few days and nights without sleep. One might be tempted to submerge their Lute in a bath tub in the end, as exhaustion sets in and good judgement becomes fantasy. In short blowing into the sound hole may or may not work but it is not a practicle solution to the problem. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: Herbert Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: [LUTE] Lute care during arid conditions. Suppose your humidity goes down to the 30-40% range. Might one, in an effort to maintain humidity within the lute, safely blow into the soundhole once an hour or so? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute care during arid conditions.
--- Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herbert Ward wrote: Might one, in an effort to maintain humidity within the lute, safely blow into the soundhole once an hour or so? .. little needle on the meter just dipped into the red. and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly... - Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), Historias de la Conquista del Mayab by Fra Joseph of San Buenaventura. go to: http://www.charango.cl/paginas/quieninvento.htm ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
