[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Other de Gallots....
Indeed Monica. Do we know if Henri Francois de G was Gallot d'Angleterre or is this just my febrile speculation? MH --- On Sun, 20/3/11, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Other de Gallots To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lutelist l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2011, 16:59 According to the title page Ms. Mus.Sch. C.94 was actually copied by Gallot's tres humbles et affectionne seruitur Monnier. The pieces are by at least two Gallot - Gallot d'Angleterre and Gallot d'Irlande, possibly others. Monica - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: [2]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu; Martin Shepherd [3]mar...@luteshop.co.uk Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 12:58 PM Subject: [LUTE] Other de Gallots Dear Martin, The guitar composing de Gallot is Henry FranAS:ois de Gallot who wrote (probably between 1660 and 1670) the large and distinctive Ms now in the Bodleian: Pieces de guittarre de differendes autheures recueillis par Pieces de guittarre de differendes autheures recueillis par Henry FranAS:ois de Gallot (Oxford, Bodleian Library, Ms. Mus.Sch. C.94). Martyn --- On Sun, 20/3/11, [4]mathias.roe...@t-online.de [5]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: From: [6]mathias.roe...@t-online.de [7]mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano To: [8]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2011, 12:08 Let me try. Jacques Gallot (I) was brother to Antoine Gallot. Antoine (Gallot d'Angers) died 1647 in Vilnius, Jacques (I) (Gallot de Paris) died around 1685 in Paris. Both were called Gallot le vieux. Jacques Gallot (I) was lute teacher to Sebastien de Brossard (b. 1654) in Paris. The Milleran ms. hearkens back to him. He bequeathes music by his brother as well as music by the Gaultiers. Antoine Gallot's courante Le Canon (in Milleran) is reflected by a courante of the same name and model by Denis Gaultier (Barbe, p 1). Jacques (II) Gallot, called le jeune, was born around 1640 in Paris and died there around 1700. Boetticher guessed that Jacques (II) was a son to Antoine Gallot. The print Pieces de Luth Composees sur differens Modes par J. G. Auec les folies d'Espagnes etc (Paris probably 1670) is his work. So far ... Mathias -Original-Nachricht- Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:16:51 +0100 From: Martin Shepherd [1][9]mar...@luteshop.co.uk To: [2][10]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Thanks, I'd forgotten that. Can you help us out by telling us something about which is which? I'm thinking mostly of the printed book, and the music in the Barbe MS - and it would be interesting to know if they are by different composers. Isn't there also guitar music, or is that yet another Gallot? Martin On 20/03/2011 00:25, Mathias Roesel wrote: Erm aEUR| there were two aEUR| Mathias -UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht- Von: [3][11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4][12]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Martin Shepherd Gesendet: Samstag, 19. MACURrz 2011 12:41 An: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano Yes, I agree! Martin On 18/03/2011 22:46, wikla wrote: Original Message Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:00 +0200 From: wikla[5][13]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: [6][14]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear baroque lutenists, after having check-played through quite a few pieces by Jacques Gallot, I've come to the conclusion (that means this is my subjective opininion, of course!) that Jacques really is one of the great lute composers - in the level of F. da Milano, Dowland, E. Gaultier and such). And what especially came to mind, is that J. Gallot in a way tastes same as Francesco da Milano - about 150 years later: very economic writing, actually in extrem, very clever ideas of melody and harmony, extremely very well written to the instrument, its tuning, and to the fingers of both hands of the player. Not to speak of the enjoyment to the ears and understanding. So Jacques is thus taken to my heaven of lute geniuses! :-)
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Works of Weiss - S-C numbering now finished
Dear lute friends, as Tim Crawford wrote to me in the last days, the S-C numbering of Weiss's works is now complete. The last volumes of the Sämtliche Werke are now prepared and about to be printed. There had been one last change, that refers to all of the single works - numbers with * - above 50*. The former S-C 49*, a Courante in F, had been deleted from the list, as it is a work by Lauffensteiner (there are concordances in Salzburg, New York and Vienna). So now 50* becomes 49*, 51* - 50*, ... 88* - 87*. I have adjusted the list and the Catalogue of recordings on http://www.slweiss.com (or http://www.slweiss.de). Please tell me, if you find mistakes. I have seen that some of the incipits have been in wrong order (A-Su and D-ROu53.1A) and corrected it. As it is an extensive list, there might be more mistakes ... Best regards Markus -- Markus Lutz Schulstraße 11 88422 Bad Buchau Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89 Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90 Mail mar...@gmlutz.de Homepages http://www.slweiss.com (Silvius Leopold Weiss) http://mss.slweiss.com (Baroque lute manuscripts - by Peter Steur) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] new lute duets
hi, I have uploaded new single line (Melody) intavolations. Ideal for studying, teaching purposes. Anonym - Fantasia-No. 1 Anonym - Fantasia-No. 2 Anonym - Fantasia-No. 4 Anonym - Fantasia-No. 5 Anonymous - Duo Festa, Constazo - Frottola Morley - Miraculous Love's Wounding Morley - Sweet Nymphe, Come to Thy Lover Morley - When Loe, By Breake of Morning Obrecht-Kanon Obrecht, Jacob - Salve diva parens Enjoy Tip: Play as many Melodylines as possible to learn Melodysinging on the lute! Enjoy them Anton here is the complete list of all single line (Melody) intavolations 2 Lutes (einstimmig-single line-for studying and teaching purposes) http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=24enp6t87q71d Anonym - Amy souffres que je vous aime Anonym - Duett -7 (Ayre) Anonym - Duett - 6 Coranto Anonym - Duet -4 (attr. to Ward) Anonym - Duet -2 (attr. to Coprario) Anonym - Fantasia-No. 1 Anonym - Fantasia-No. 2 Anonym - Fantasia-No. 3 Anonym - Fantasia-No. 4 Anonym - Fantasia-No. 5 Anonymous - Duo Antiquis, Giovanni de - Fantasia Busnois Antoine - Pour entretenir mes amours (a,g;D) Busnois, Antoine - je ne puis 8 Duos - Uppsala Cabezón, Antonio de - Duo 1 Cabezón, Antonio de - Duo 2 Cabezón, Antonio de - Duo 3 de Antiquis, Giovanni - Fantasia secunda Festa, Constazo - Frottola Gastoldi, Giovanni Giacomo - Sonate Gastoldi, Giacomo - Duo I Gastoldi, Giacomo - Duo II Gastoldi, Giacomo - Duo III Gastoldi, Giacomo - Duo IV Gastoldi, Giacomo - Duo IV Gastoldi, Giacomo - Duo VI Gastoldi, Giovanni Giacomo - Fantasia 6 Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo I Perfidia sopra Ut Re Mi Fa Sol La Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo II Perfidia sopra il medesimo soggetto Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo III Scherzi sopra Ia Girometta Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo IV Bergamasca Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo V Fra Iacopino Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo VI Margarita del Coral Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo VII Ciaccona Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo VIII Ballo di Mantua Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo IX Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo X Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XI Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XII Cantilena Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XIII Cantilena de' salti Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XIV Solfeggiamento Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XV Giamberti, Gioseppe - DuoXVI Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XVII Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XVIII Io son ferito Giamberti, Gioseppe - DuoXIX Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XX Giamberti, Gioseppe - DuoXXI Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXII Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXIII Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXIV Giamberti, Gioseppe - DuoXXV Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXVI Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXVII Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXVIII La Sol Fa Re Mi Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXIX Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXX Piva Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXI Cucu Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXII Aria del gran Duca Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXIII O Clorida Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXIV Corrente Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXV Spagnoletta Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXVI Villan de Spagna Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXVII. Corrente Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXVIII Civetta Giamberti, Gioseppe - Duo XXXIX Trombetta Guami - Ricercar 2 Guami - Ricercar 10 Lasso - Te deprecamur largium Lasso - 01-Beatus Vir Lasso - 02-Beatus Homo Lasso - 03-Oculus Non Vidit Lasso - 04-Justus Cor Suum Tradet Lasso - 05-Expectatio Justorum Lasso - 06-Qui Sequitur Me Lasso - 07-Justi Tulerunt Spolia Lasso - 08-Sancti Mei Lasso - 09-Qui Vult Venire Lasso - 10-Serve Bone Lasso - 11-Fulgebunt Justi Lasso - 12-Sicut Rosa Lasso - Scribantur hæc in generatione altera Lasso - Beata cujus bracchiis Lasso - Esurientes implevit bonis Lasso - Fantasia 1 Lasso - Fantasia 2 Layolle, François de - Doulce Mémoire Lupacino - Fantasia Lupacino - Fantasia III Lupacino - Fantasia 12 Lupacino - Sopra la battaglia Manchicourt, Pierre de - Doulce Mémoire Matthysz, Paulus - Fantasia-No. 1 Matthysz, Paulus - Fantasia-No. 2 Morley - Miraculous Love's Wounding Morley - Sweet Nymphe, Come to Thy Lover Morley - When Loe, By Breake of Morning Obrecht - Kanon Obrecht, Jacob - Salve diva parens Phalese, Pierre - C'est amour qui si rare en la terre se treuve (Tierce partie) Pevernage, André - Deux que le trait d'Amour Scheidt, Samuel - O Lux Beata Sweelinck - Voicy du gay printemps Sweelinck - Io mi son giovinetta Sweelinck - Morir non puo'l mio core Tasso, Giovanni Maria - Fantasia Quinta Turnhout, Gerard - Je fais ma penitence Turnhout, Gerard - Mon coeur se recommande à vous (lower) Turnhout, Gerard - Mon coeur se recommande à vous Verdonck, Cornelio - Lungi da voi mia Verdonck, Cornelio - Dissi a l'amata mia lucida stella Vinci, Pietro - La marencha -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Temporary strap button.
I'm interested in putting a strap button onto my lute close to the neck-body joint (ie, around the 11th fret). Before investing the time, money, and irreversibility in having one installed, I'd like to try a temporary button at that location. Is it feasible to attach such a temporary button/hook without danger to the lute or its finish? How might one do this? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Wandervögel Songs
Dear Mathias, I didn't mean it to be a substitute for any number of books with songs from that repertory. Indeed the Zupfgeigenhansl is available in many, many editions offered by antiquarian dealers, and range in size (and hence number of opieces) from 95 to 138 pages. Use the Karlsruhe Connection (last column) to locate copies: http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/kvk_en.html The volumes I cited, Was die Wandervögel, have nearly 800 songs, and are available for Laute (Gitarre), also, but only with chord accompaniments. So, a lute accompaniment arranged from Krome's keyboard arrangement might be more interesting. The book mentioned by Wolfgang also has interesting pieces because they draw upon such old songs. Here again is Wolfgang's link to the online facsimile: http://www.mediafire.com/?dxceoidm4p4xfmi Perhaps we should be paying closer attention to the Wandervögel Lieder. Greetings from Boston, Arthur. - Original Message - From: mathias.roe...@t-online.de To: A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:26 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs You'll have all the tunes and lyrics from this edition, at least. But these are adaptations for the keyboard, definitely no more feasible on the lute. Quite a few copies of Der Zupfgeigenhandel are still floating around ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Zupfgeigenhansl ), why not take one of those. Mathias Some of you may be interested in this collection in several volumes with hundreds of songs (alas arranged for piano, but originally for lute-guitar): [1]http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257 Publication Name: Was die Wandervo#776;gel singen ... fu#776;r Klavier bearbeitet und herausgegeben von Hermann Krome. Illustriert von Paul Telemann. Band I-IV. Arranger:Krome, Hermann (1888 - 1955) Is anyone out there interested in this repertory? Roman? References 1. http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Other de Gallot families....
I think we need to be cautious in considering them part of the same family. I'm not sure how common a name de Gallot was at the time but it's probable that many families with little apparent connection had the name. MH --- On Sun, 20/3/11, Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl wrote: From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl Subject: [LUTE] Odp: Re: Other de Gallots To: mathias.roe...@t-online.de mathias.roe...@t-online.de Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2011, 17:35 Dear friends, Dnia 20-03-2011 o godz. 16:23 [1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de napisaAA'(a): Dear Martyn, Grzegorz, Martin, the Gallots seemingly were quite a large family, that much seems to be true ... I only tried to make clear that Jacques was the name of at least two members of the gang. I still have at least two questions. 1. The print of Pieces de Luth Composees sur differents Modes is more often than not dated ca. 1670. But if the allemande Le Bout that it contains, was taken from Denis Gaultier's second print, Livre de tablature etc., then it must be after 1672. Correct? Probably yes. I did not examined and played these pieces. 2. If Antoine and Alexandre were often confused, then who is the author of Le Canon contained in the Milleran ms.? This is good question. But the main problem is we know not much about Antoine Gallot's music. More evidence could be find about Alexander. Both died before compiled Ms. Milleran (dated in among other things in Meyer to ca. 1690), so it could be no possibilities to find there autograph by Antoine and Alexander. But we possess traces which indicate to Alexander: e.g. concordances, style his music and inscriptions - there are some helpful traces to know his music. So e.g. for Le Canon in ms. Milleran (f. 30v) we have two concordances ( [2]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=2type=mslang=deums=F-Pn823st= 0 ). One from there is very interesting: F-B279152 (p. 15). There are inscription with Vieux Gallot. But in his time it was normal to get pieces from others composers. When we examine others pieces by Vieux Gallot and Alaxander Gallot we could conclude that mentioned Le Canon could be attribute to Alexander. Result of this kind of work you could find in mentioned OEuvres des Gallot, [CLF], Paris 1987 and e.g. Gallot Jacques, Pieces de Luth, ed. FranAS:ois Lesure, Faksimile, GenAve 1978 (reprint). Sometimes it is very hard to determine which one Gallot wrote some pieces even we have this some traces, because in one source we could find attribute to one Gallot in other source to other Gallot, like in La canon example. But still too few evidence to could compare music by Antoine Gallot with other composers. Mathias And Martin, you mentiond about 'Tombeau de Charles De Gallot par De Gallot d'Irelande'. This article could be intersting also for you: M. Rollin, Le tombeau chez les luthistes Denis Gautier, Jacques Gallot, Charles Mouton, XVIIe siAcle, (1954) no. 21-22, pp. 463-79. Best wishes Grzegorz -Original-Nachricht- Subject: [LUTE] Re: Odp: Other de Gallots Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:40:26 +0100 From: Martyn Hodgson [3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Grzegorz Joachimiak [4]gjoachim...@wp.pl Cc: lute List [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martin Shepherd [6]mar...@luteshop.co.uk What about the guitar de Gallot: Henri Francois de Gallot (ignore the computer glich below). The dates in the Ms (Oxford, Bodleian Library, Ms. Mus.Sch. C.94) suggest it was complied between 1660 and 1684 and in England. There's also possibly even more plucking de Gallots, since on f. 128 is a 'Tombeau de Charles De Gallot par De Gallot d'Irelande' suggesting two more in addition to Henri Francois.. The 'de Gallot d'Angleterre' mentioned in the Ms is probably Henri Francois himself, but if not then yet another one surfaces. MH ' --- On Sun, 20/3/11, Grzegorz Joachimiak [7]gjoachim...@wp.pl wrote: From: Grzegorz Joachimiak [8]gjoachim...@wp.pl Subject: Odp: [LUTE] Other de Gallots To: Martyn Hodgson [9]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, [10]mathias.roe...@t-online.de Cc: lute List [11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martin Shepherd [12]mar...@luteshop.co.uk Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2011, 14:17 Dear Martin and Mathias, I would like to pay your attention that Antoine Gallot who died in 1647 in Vilnius was not the same person as Gallot d'Angers. Jacques Gallot (I) was NOT brother to Antoine Gallot. This is one of main problem with to determine which evidence indicate to any connection between Antoine Gallot and rest of Gallot's
[LUTE] re-intabulations
hello collective wisdom, some of you know, that I'm mad for old books. some years ago, I bought Denkmaeler der Tonkunst in Oesterreich - Band 37: Oesterreichische Lautenmusik im XVI. Jahrhundert from the year 1959. I think the book is from an estate of a lute player. inside are english annotaions and a handful of re-intabulations from the staff notations of lute music: some dances by judenkunig, newsidler (f.e. wascha mesa), bakfark and some fragments. I think, he or she was a skilled player. someone knows the hand? I scanned the re-intabulations: [1]http://www.mediafire.com/?p63td7e7nu07ja3 greetings w. -- References 1. http://www.mediafire.com/?p63td7e7nu07ja3 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] A short piece by Gilbert Isbin
Here's a shot at 'Panting', number VI of '10 Compositions for solo lute' (2008) by Gilbert Isbin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtPP7fdBA9A Not easy. But really interesting and worthwhile to try - and, as a byproduct, some lute pieces (from the 16th/17th century) that I've played through over the years and always seemed just a bit too difficult, and never seemed to get any better, are now looking more promising. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Wandervögel Songs
Dear Arthur, All I meant to say was that the keyboard arrangements cannot be played on the lute. And I fr one do consider the Wandervogel lute a proper lute, btw. Furthermore, many of these arrangements have instrumental introductions that have been specifically composed for the piano. The Wandervogel people are led into the parlour 8) Arthur, you know all these things, but let me say it nevertheless: Wandervogel Lieder were intrinsically tied to outdoors wandering, Wandervogel people strumming their lutes and guitars. There was no need of artful playing techniques. No pianos rambling on the roads, chords was all they needed. Wandervogel Lieder are still sung in quite a few circles where the way of Wandervogel thinking and their way of life still is alive. Most of them elderly people, of course, singing inside the houses more often than outdoors. Wandervogel lyrics really deserve attention, way not all of it belongs to the Volksmusik rubbish that you can see on German TV. But it takes a good command of German. Best wishes, Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: A. J. Ness [mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net] Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2011 23:13 An: Mathias Rösel; Lute List Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs Dear Mathias, I didn't mean it to be a substitute for any number of books with songs from that repertory. Indeed the Zupfgeigenhansl is available in many, many editions offered by antiquarian dealers, and range in size (and hence number of opieces) from 95 to 138 pages. Use the Karlsruhe Connection (last column) to locate copies: http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/kvk_en.html The volumes I cited, Was die Wandervögel, have nearly 800 songs, and are available for Laute (Gitarre), also, but only with chord accompaniments. So, a lute accompaniment arranged from Krome's keyboard arrangement might be more interesting. The book mentioned by Wolfgang also has interesting pieces because they draw upon such old songs. Here again is Wolfgang's link to the online facsimile: http://www.mediafire.com/?dxceoidm4p4xfmi Perhaps we should be paying closer attention to the Wandervögel Lieder. Greetings from Boston, Arthur. - Original Message - From: mathias.roe...@t-online.de To: A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:26 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs You'll have all the tunes and lyrics from this edition, at least. But these are adaptations for the keyboard, definitely no more feasible on the lute. Quite a few copies of Der Zupfgeigenhandel are still floating around ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Zupfgeigenhansl ), why not take one of those. Mathias Some of you may be interested in this collection in several volumes with hundreds of songs (alas arranged for piano, but originally for lute-guitar): [1]http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257 Publication Name: Was die Wandervo#776;gel singen ... fu#776;r Klavier bearbeitet und herausgegeben von Hermann Krome. Illustriert von Paul Telemann. Band I-IV. Arranger:Krome, Hermann (1888 - 1955) Is anyone out there interested in this repertory? Roman? References 1. http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute poems
Thomas, In Vallet's Regia Pietas there's a small acrostic in French, called Au luth. You can find it at the bottom of this page: http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/sources/vallet/psalms_of_david_1620/000h_poem_3.j pg Nicolás -Mensaje original- De: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] En nombre de Thomas Schall Enviado el: sábado, 19 de marzo de 2011 17:04 Para: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Asunto: [LUTE] lute poems Hi all, I've redisigned my homepage (http://www.lautenist.de) and would like to ask if some of you know poems related to the lute which are not listed on my page. Thanks for your help and all the best -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A short piece by Gilbert Isbin
Thank you Stuart. You play the piece beautifully !! Gilbert - Originele e-mail - Van: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com Aan: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Verzonden: Zondag 20 maart 2011 23:14:19 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlijn / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Wenen Onderwerp: [LUTE] A short piece by Gilbert Isbin Here's a shot at 'Panting', number VI of '10 Compositions for solo lute' (2008) by Gilbert Isbin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtPP7fdBA9A Not easy. But really interesting and worthwhile to try - and, as a byproduct, some lute pieces (from the 16th/17th century) that I've played through over the years and always seemed just a bit too difficult, and never seemed to get any better, are now looking more promising. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A short piece by Gilbert Isbin
Thanks for posting another Isbin piece, Stuart; a lovely rendition. I enjoy working on his music and am particularly inspired by your performances. -Ned On Mar 20, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Here's a shot at 'Panting', number VI of '10 Compositions for solo lute' (2008) by Gilbert Isbin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtPP7fdBA9A Not easy. But really interesting and worthwhile to try - and, as a byproduct, some lute pieces (from the 16th/17th century) that I've played through over the years and always seemed just a bit too difficult, and never seemed to get any better, are now looking more promising. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Theorbo shipping within the U.S
Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
I have sold a couple of instruments on Wayne's list in the past year and bought another, which was shipped to me from the UK. The onen from the UK came DHL last December and there was a week when I am pretty sure DHL did not have a clue where it was. I called several times a day and can guarantee you that their employees are trained to say reassuring things. I finally got the instrument when a wonderful lady in the San Francisco warehouse heard my story, found the instrument and put it in her car on her way home from work to hand deliver it to me in the local Starbuck's warehouse. About 2 months later I got a letter from DHL asking me to pay some duty and recently I have had a letter from the California tax people wanting tax because I bought something from outside the country. I don't mind paying, but it seem that they are very disorganized not to ask for the money before I got the instrument. The 2 instruments I sold were shipped Fed Ex ground and things worked great. The only challenge was getting a box big enough to put the instruments into with a lot of bubble wrap and packaging around it. I called a local luthier and he recommended the biggest box that UHaul sells and it worked great. Nancy At 01:29 PM 3/21/2011, howard posner wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582 web sites - [2]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [3]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 3. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 4. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/
[LUTE] Hej!! Hej!!
Happy Birthday, JSB. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Hej!! Hej!!
Only just one day after mine, poor JSB! ;-) My congrats to JSB, too. Arto On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:34:56 -0400, A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net wrote: Happy Birthday, JSB. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
My experience was similar to Nancy's, but with UPS. They had no idea about the status of the instrument, it got stuck in customs, and the buyer got stuck with a huge tax bill for a bunch of things of which we were never made aware. It also arrived with a small amount of damage to a peg. I don't know about the US Postal Service (I'm in Canada), but I've always found Canada Post excellent for shipping such things. Efficient, cheap, and they know where thing are. UPS also vastly overcharged me for packaging, which was done with something less than skilled hands. FedEx might be the way to go, but I'd also see if the Postal Service offers a comparable service for a reasonable price. Best, Graham Freeman On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Nancy Carlin [1]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com wrote: I have sold a couple of instruments on Wayne's list in the past year and bought another, which was shipped to me from the UK. The onen from the UK came DHL last December and there was a week when I am pretty sure DHL did not have a clue where it was. I called several times a day and can guarantee you that their employees are trained to say reassuring things. I finally got the instrument when a wonderful lady in the San Francisco warehouse heard my story, found the instrument and put it in her car on her way home from work to hand deliver it to me in the local Starbuck's warehouse. About 2 months later I got a letter from DHL asking me to pay some duty and recently I have had a letter from the California tax people wanting tax because I bought something from outside the country. I don't mind paying, but it seem that they are very disorganized not to ask for the money before I got the instrument. The 2 instruments I sold were shipped Fed Ex ground and things worked great. The only challenge was getting a box big enough to put the instruments into with a lot of bubble wrap and packaging around it. I called a local luthier and he recommended the biggest box that UHaul sells and it worked great. Nancy At 01:29 PM 3/21/2011, howard posner wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [1][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone [3]925/686-5800 fax [4]925/680-2582 web sites - [2][5]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [3][6]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [4][7]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. [9]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 3. [10]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 4. [11]http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ -- Dr. Graham Freeman Ph. D Musicology University of Toronto [12]freeman.gra...@gmail.com -- References 1. mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. tel:925%2F686-5800 4. tel:925%2F680-2582 5. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 6. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 7. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 10. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 11. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ 12. mailto:freeman.gra...@gmail.com
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
I am a newbie lute player who had a Dan Larson lute shipped from Duluth, MN to Madison, WI last spring -- via FedEx. It was one of the easier shipping experiences I have ever lived through -- the lute was very well packed, in excellent condition upon arrival, and my three cats have been playing with the very large cardboard box ever since, which is a plus from their point of view. -- Catherine Arnott Smith, PhD Assistant Professor School of Library and Information Studies University of Wisconsin-Madison Music is neither old nor modern: it is either good or bad music, and the date at which it was written has no significance whatever. (Peter Warlock - The Sackbut - 1926) Be sure you choose what you believe and know why you believe it, because if you don't choose your beliefs, you may be certain that some belief, and probably not a very creditable one, will choose you. Robertson Davies, The Manticore (London: Penguin, 1972; pp. 477-478) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
The good things about Fed Ex are their tracking system and insurance policies. When I have applied for work visas for non-American musicians Fed Ex has been great both in the US and in delivering paperwork to other parts of the world. But nobody ever said they were cheap. Nancy At 03:03 PM 3/21/2011, Graham Freeman wrote: My experience was similar to Nancy's, but with UPS. They had no idea about the status of the instrument, it got stuck in customs, and the buyer got stuck with a huge tax bill for a bunch of things of which we were never made aware. It also arrived with a small amount of damage to a peg. I don't know about the US Postal Service (I'm in Canada), but I've always found Canada Post excellent for shipping such things. Efficient, cheap, and they know where thing are. UPS also vastly overcharged me for packaging, which was done with something less than skilled hands. FedEx might be the way to go, but I'd also see if the Postal Service offers a comparable service for a reasonable price. Best, Graham Freeman On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Nancy Carlin [1]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com wrote: I have sold a couple of instruments on Wayne's list in the past year and bought another, which was shipped to me from the UK. The onen from the UK came DHL last December and there was a week when I am pretty sure DHL did not have a clue where it was. I called several times a day and can guarantee you that their employees are trained to say reassuring things. I finally got the instrument when a wonderful lady in the San Francisco warehouse heard my story, found the instrument and put it in her car on her way home from work to hand deliver it to me in the local Starbuck's warehouse. About 2 months later I got a letter from DHL asking me to pay some duty and recently I have had a letter from the California tax people wanting tax because I bought something from outside the country. I don't mind paying, but it seem that they are very disorganized not to ask for the money before I got the instrument. The 2 instruments I sold were shipped Fed Ex ground and things worked great. The only challenge was getting a box big enough to put the instruments into with a lot of bubble wrap and packaging around it. I called a local luthier and he recommended the biggest box that UHaul sells and it worked great. Nancy At 01:29 PM 3/21/2011, howard posner wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [1][2][1] http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone [3]925/686-5800 fax [4]925/680-2582 web sites - [2][5]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [3][6]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [4][7]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. [9]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 3. [10]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 4. [11]http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ -- Dr. Graham Freeman Ph. D Musicology University of Toronto [12]freeman.gra...@gmail.com -- References 1. [2]mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com 2. [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. tel:925%2F686-5800 4. tel:925%2F680-2582 5. [4]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 6. [5]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 7. [6]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 8. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. [8]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 10. [9]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 11. [10]http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ 12. [11]mailto:freeman.gra...@gmail.com Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box
[LUTE] Re: Hej!! Hej!!
On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:58 PM, wikla wrote: Only just one day after mine, poor JSB! ;-) But you look young; I wouldn't have thought you a day older than 275. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
Non US-related. I had a guitar shipped to me through UPS within Europe recently. Supplier packed the instrument: Guitar in case. Bubble wrap (huge specimen, like balloons). Sturdy box. Foam corners, serious impact/shock absorbers. Another sturdy box. UPS rang the door when I wasn't in and left a note about a 'big box'. It sure was. Guitar was safe, in tune even! David - guitar is lovingly referred to as 'grote doos' ever since On 21 March 2011 21:29, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl ***
[LUTE] Theorbo shipping within the U.S
A sensitive advice: avoid UPS at all cost. They have stolen an instrument from me, and not payed for it to the date. They were not only incompetent, but also rude and disrespectful (both, USA and Spanish branchs) The instrument was later seen on ebay for sale. No need to say more, I guess :) best, ariel. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
My theorbo, which I think is pretty much the same as Howard's, came (years ago) from Germany via UPS. Things to be careful of: * UPS, and probably the others, have size limitations - maximum on length + width + height (or length + circumference, I forget which). The theorbo in its box was right at the limit. * Make sure the instrument can't move in the case. Mine shifted in the case and sheared off a peg on the upper pegbox. (When it moved the first thing that encountered the top of the case was a peg.) Fortunately it was a spare peg for an alternate stringing and I just super-glued it back together. Wedge some foam between the top of the case and the sturdy part of the upper pegbox. ..Bob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
If you look at FedEx's insurance policies ( http://www.fedex.com/us/service-guide/terms/express-ground/ ) you will see that.. 6. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$1,000: Guitars and other musical instruments that are more than 20 years old, and customized or personalized musical instruments. I believe that all theorbos are custom, or old. So be careful! Wayne Begin forwarded message: From: Nancy Carlin na...@nancycarlinassociates.com The good things about Fed Ex are their tracking system and insurance policies. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
