[LUTE] Slidely amplifying al lute?

2019-05-17 Thread Jörg Hilbert
Dear all,

any suggestions how to amplify a lute a tiny little bit without using a pickup? 
Microphone? Amplifier? I once saw Miguel Sedoura sitting on some kind of 
amplifier to support his solo recital in a bigger hall. Something like that …?

Thanks, Jörg



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[LUTE] Re: Gamut Music

2019-05-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
Really nice little film. Congratulations to Dan and you. Nice to see and hear 
you play and to hear your voice for the first time.

On May 16, 2019, at 12:29 AM, Edward Martin  wrote:

>   Dear ones,
>   The local PBS station in northern Minnesota produced a video on Gamut
>   Music, of which I am affiliated.   This was recorded 2 months ago, and
>   was aired last month.   I hope you find it interesting, as you can see
>   Dan Larson demonstrating finishing touches on a viola d'amore, as well
>   as him doing finishing touches on a lute rose.   You can also see some
>   of the Gamut stringmakers in the process of making gut strings, from
>   beginning to completion. As well, I am on the video, playing on an
>   11-course Frei, 68 cm, in all gut, with silverer gimped strings on 10th
>   and 11th course.   For the recording, I played "Canaries" by Ennemond
>   "Vieux" Gaultier
>   I hope you enjoy this.
>   [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLKDl0Ww_Tg&feature=youtu.be&utm_sou
>   rce=May+Day+Sale+reminder&utm_campaign=May+Day+Sale&utm_medium=email
>   Best,
>   ed

Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/








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[LUTE] Re: Slidely amplifying al lute?

2019-05-17 Thread David van Ooijen
   I use either a mic (Dpa mini) or a stick-on mic (Schertler) in an
   acoustic amplifier (aer).

   David

   On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 13:14, Jörg Hilbert
   <[1]hilbert.jo...@t-online.de> wrote:

 Dear all,
 any suggestions how to amplify a lute a tiny little bit without
 using a pickup? Microphone? Amplifier? I once saw Miguel Sedoura
 sitting on some kind of amplifier to support his solo recital in a
 bigger hall. Something like that �
 Thanks, Jörg
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[LUTE] Re: Slidely amplifying al lute?

2019-05-17 Thread jslute
   Dear All,

I also use an AER amplifier. It's the best.

   Jim

   Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

    Original message 
   From: David van Ooijen 
   Date: 5/17/19 7:34 AM (GMT-05:00)
   To: Jörg Hilbert 
   Cc: lute List 
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Slidely amplifying al lute?

  I use either a mic (Dpa mini) or a stick-on mic (Schertler) in an
  acoustic amplifier (aer).
  David
  On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 13:14, Jörg Hilbert
  <[1]hilbert.jo...@t-online.de> wrote:
Dear all,
any suggestions how to amplify a lute a tiny little bit without
using a pickup? Microphone? Amplifier? I once saw Miguel Sedoura
sitting on some kind of amplifier to support his solo recital in a
bigger hall. Something like that �
Thanks, Jörg
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  4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/



[LUTE] decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Tristan von Neumann

Dear collective experience,


while we're at it:
I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.


What I want:
* use it at home to record lute music and other instruments

(* use it as a usb mic)

* take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a session
might come along

* I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the files
without removing the SD card


So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say the
noise is quite high, others don't.

(Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really sparkling - I
know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but still...)

In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.


What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be available
in Germany...)


Thanks!





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[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Ralf Mattes
 
I own a Zoom H4 (the old version) and am pretty happy with it. Did many concert 
recordings with it.
The actual microphone capsules are pretty good (way better than one would 
expect). If you need you can
plug in external mics - the device provides phantom power so you can use 
high-quality condenser mics.
The preamps are good for what the device is designed for (live recording). The 
are a bit noisy iff you need
to crank up the input gain. So I wouldn't recomend the device if you want to 
use it to record environmental
noise (wind in the willows et al.).
The device is a class-compliant USB audio device as well, so you can record 
directly into your DAW (and
it does work fine with Linux. That's what I use personally). Alternatively, you 
can mount the device as a 
storage device and copy files from/to it.
One thing to mention: all Zooms are very microphonic! Don't plan on redording 
holding the device in your
hand. I think the current price for a new-gen. Zoom H4 is below 200 Euro at 
Thomann.

HTH, RalfD


Am Freitag, 17. Mai 2019 17:29 CEST, Tristan von Neumann 
 schrieb: 
 
> Dear collective experience,
> 
> 
> while we're at it:
> I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.
> 
> 
> What I want:
> * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments
> 
> (* use it as a usb mic)
> 
> * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a session
> might come along
> 
> * I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the files
> without removing the SD card
> 
> 
> So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say the
> noise is quite high, others don't.
> 
> (Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really sparkling - I
> know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but still...)
> 
> In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.
> 
> 
> What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be available
> in Germany...)
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 
 
 
 






[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Jacob Johnson
   I'll second the recommendation for the Zoom H4. I got the H4n Pro as an
   upgrade from the Zoom H1. The H1 was great for a few years, but the H4n
   Pro has significantly better preamps. The original H4 has the same
   pre's as the H1, but the H4n Pro has the same pre's as the H6, so you
   get a LOT more headroom. As was previously mentioned, you can also use
   external mics on their own or in conjunction with the built in capsules
   to get up to 4 simultaneously recorded tracks.
   The biggest drawback I've found with these units is battery life. At
   home, I always use the AC adapter. In the field, I carry backup
   rechargeable batteries. Phantom power will kill the batteries in less
   than an hour.
   If you'd like to hear how the H1/H4n Pro sound in the context of lute
   (and guitar) music specifically, every recording on my website was made
   with them.
   With the H1 around  $100  USD (I got mine on sale for about $60) and
   the H4n Pro at about  $200,  I'd say go for the H4n Pro.
   Warmest Regards,
   Jacob Johnson
   [1]www.johnsonguitarstudio.com

   On Fri, May 17, 2019, 11:41 AM Ralf Mattes <[2]r...@mh-freiburg.de>
   wrote:


 I own a Zoom H4 (the old version) and am pretty happy with it. Did
 many concert recordings with it.
 The actual microphone capsules are pretty good (way better than one
 would expect). If you need you can
 plug in external mics - the device provides phantom power so you can
 use high-quality condenser mics.
 The preamps are good for what the device is designed for (live
 recording). The are a bit noisy iff you need
 to crank up the input gain. So I wouldn't recomend the device if you
 want to use it to record environmental
 noise (wind in the willows et al.).
 The device is a class-compliant USB audio device as well, so you can
 record directly into your DAW (and
 it does work fine with Linux. That's what I use personally).
 Alternatively, you can mount the device as a
 storage device and copy files from/to it.
 One thing to mention: all Zooms are very microphonic! Don't plan on
 redording holding the device in your
 hand. I think the current price for a new-gen. Zoom H4 is below 200
 Euro at Thomann.
 HTH, RalfD
 Am Freitag, 17. Mai 2019 17:29 CEST, Tristan von Neumann
 <[3]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> schrieb:
 > Dear collective experience,
 >
 >
 > while we're at it:
 > I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.
 >
 >
 > What I want:
 > * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments
 >
 > (* use it as a usb mic)
 >
 > * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a
 session
 > might come along
 >
 > * I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the
 files
 > without removing the SD card
 >
 >
 > So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say
 the
 > noise is quite high, others don't.
 >
 > (Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really
 sparkling - I
 > know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but
 still...)
 >
 > In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.
 >
 >
 > What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be
 available
 > in Germany...)
 >
 >
 > Thanks!
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > To get on or off this list see list information at
 > [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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   1. http://www.johnsonguitarstudio.com/
   2. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
   3. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Matthew Daillie
I have a Tascam DR-1 and it has given me years of loyal service. It gives a 
very clean, natural sound, has good build quality and the original battery 
still provides outstanding autonomy. This model has obviously been superseded 
but there are several others on offer. Try to see one in the flesh before 
purchase to check on the robustness of the models of the present range. Tascam 
have been in business for years, notably providing equipment to professional 
recording studios and radio stations but I suspect the cheaper models cut 
corners on solidity.

Best,

Matthew


Le 17 mai 2019 à 17:29, Tristan von Neumann  a écrit :

> Dear collective experience,
> 
> 
> while we're at it:
> I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.
> 
> 
> What I want:
> * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments
> 
> (* use it as a usb mic)
> 
> * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a session
> might come along
> 
> * I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the files
> without removing the SD card
> 
> 
> So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say the
> noise is quite high, others don't.
> 
> (Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really sparkling - I
> know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but still...)
> 
> In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.
> 
> 
> What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be available
> in Germany...)
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html





[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread David van Ooijen
   I own a portable Marantz with decent on-board mics that does the job. I
   also own a slightly bigger Marantz (still portable) with on board mics
   but that I connect proper mic to and use as my studios recording
   device. Very, quiet mic preamps. Happy with both.
   The best thing in both units is that you can override the auto gain
   (don't even know if the bigger unit has auto gain, the bane of dynamic
   playing).
   David
   ***
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   [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl
   ***

   On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 20:16, Matthew Daillie
   <[3]dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote:

 I have a Tascam DR-1 and it has given me years of loyal service. It
 gives a very clean, natural sound, has good build quality and the
 original battery still provides outstanding autonomy. This model has
 obviously been superseded but there are several others on offer. Try
 to see one in the flesh before purchase to check on the robustness
 of the models of the present range. Tascam have been in business for
 years, notably providing equipment to professional recording studios
 and radio stations but I suspect the cheaper models cut corners on
 solidity.
 Best,
 Matthew
 Le 17 mai 2019 Ã  17:29, Tristan von Neumann
 <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> a écrit :
 > Dear collective experience,
 >
 >
 > while we're at it:
 > I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.
 >
 >
 > What I want:
 > * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments
 >
 > (* use it as a usb mic)
 >
 > * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a
 session
 > might come along
 >
 > * I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the
 files
 > without removing the SD card
 >
 >
 > So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say
 the
 > noise is quite high, others don't.
 >
 > (Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really
 sparkling - I
 > know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but
 still...)
 >
 > In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.
 >
 >
 > What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be
 available
 > in Germany...)
 >
 >
 > Thanks!
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > To get on or off this list see list information at
 > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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   1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
   3. mailto:dail...@club-internet.fr
   4. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Ralf Mattes
Yes, Tascam does make some pretty nice hardware. But keep in mind: the 
"cheaper" (<200 Euro) models lack the possibility
to plug in external mics. That's fine for concert recordings but if you want to 
do a semi-professional solo lute recording
(esp. in a sub-optimal recording space) you probably want mics that can be 
carefully placed.

 Cheers, RalfD
 
Am Freitag, 17. Mai 2019 20:11 CEST, Matthew Daillie  
schrieb: 
 
> I have a Tascam DR-1 and it has given me years of loyal service. It gives a 
> very clean, natural sound, has good build quality and the original battery 
> still provides outstanding autonomy. This model has obviously been superseded 
> but there are several others on offer. Try to see one in the flesh before 
> purchase to check on the robustness of the models of the present range. 
> Tascam have been in business for years, notably providing equipment to 
> professional recording studios and radio stations but I suspect the cheaper 
> models cut corners on solidity.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> Le 17 mai 2019 à 17:29, Tristan von Neumann  a 
> écrit :
> 
> > Dear collective experience,
> > 
> > 
> > while we're at it:
> > I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.
> > 
> > 
> > What I want:
> > * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments
> > 
> > (* use it as a usb mic)
> > 
> > * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a session
> > might come along
> > 
> > * I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the files
> > without removing the SD card
> > 
> > 
> > So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say the
> > noise is quite high, others don't.
> > 
> > (Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really sparkling - I
> > know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but still...)
> > 
> > In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.
> > 
> > 
> > What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be available
> > in Germany...)
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 
 






[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Ralf Mattes
 
Am Freitag, 17. Mai 2019 20:26 CEST, David van Ooijen 
 schrieb: 
 

>The best thing in both units is that you can override the auto gain
>(don't even know if the bigger unit has auto gain, the bane of dynamic
>playing).

Yeah, you would never want to use auto-gain ;-)

Cheers, RalfD

 
 
 





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[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread David van Ooijen
   You'd be surprised, some devices only have auto gain ...
   David
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   On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 20:35, Ralf Mattes <[3]r...@mh-freiburg.de> wrote:


 Am Freitag, 17. Mai 2019 20:26 CEST, David van Ooijen
 <[4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> schrieb:
 > The best thing in both units is that you can override the auto
 gain
 > (don't even know if the bigger unit has auto gain, the bane of
 dynamic
 > playing).
 Yeah, you would never want to use auto-gain ;-)
 Cheers, RalfD

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   2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
   3. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
   4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com


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[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Jurgen Frenz
I found Tascam recorders to sound better than "the others" - the zoom devices 
have powerful marketing.

Forget about USB mics, they are crap and I'm polite. If you want to record 
straight into your com running Linux you exponentially add problem sources, I 
strongly encourage you not to.

Good luck


--
“Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.”

Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, May 18, 2019 1:26 AM, David van Ooijen  
wrote:

> I own a portable Marantz with decent on-board mics that does the job. I
> also own a slightly bigger Marantz (still portable) with on board mics
> but that I connect proper mic to and use as my studios recording
> device. Very, quiet mic preamps. Happy with both.
> The best thing in both units is that you can override the auto gain
> (don't even know if the bigger unit has auto gain, the bane of dynamic
> playing).
> David
>
> David van Ooijen
> [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
> [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl
>
> On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 20:16, Matthew Daillie
> <[3]dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
> I have a Tascam DR-1 and it has given me years of loyal service. It
> gives a very clean, natural sound, has good build quality and the
> original battery still provides outstanding autonomy. This model has
> obviously been superseded but there are several others on offer. Try
> to see one in the flesh before purchase to check on the robustness
> of the models of the present range. Tascam have been in business for
> years, notably providing equipment to professional recording studios
> and radio stations but I suspect the cheaper models cut corners on
> solidity.
> Best,
> Matthew
> Le 17 mai 2019 Ã 17:29, Tristan von Neumann
> <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> a écrit :
>
>  > Dear collective experience,
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  > while we're at it:
>
>  > I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  > What I want:
>
>  > * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments
>
>  >
>
>  > (* use it as a usb mic)
>
>  >
>
>  > * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a
>
>  session
>  > might come along
>
>  >
>
>  > * I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the
>
>  files
>  > without removing the SD card
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  > So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say
>
>  the
>  > noise is quite high, others don't.
>
>  >
>
>  > (Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really
>
>  sparkling - I
>  > know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but
>
>  still...)
>  >
>
>  > In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  > What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be
>
>  available
>  > in Germany...)
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  > Thanks!
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  > To get on or off this list see list information at
>
>  > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1.  mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
> 2.  http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
> 3.  mailto:dail...@club-internet.fr
> 4.  mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> 5.  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html






[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Mark Probert


Hi, Tristan.

> 
> while we're at it:
> I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.
> 
I very much like the Sony PCM-M10. I've no idea of how it
compares pricewise, but it is an excellent portable recorder
both using its internal mics and using plugins.

HTH .. m.



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[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Tristan von Neumann

Thank you all for the input.


I guess I can manage 200 bucks even if it hurts.

My room is actually not suboptimal for recording, I have sofa, carpet,
wall carpet, etc. and it sounds really dry.

I guess I'll go for the H4n just because some of the features are very
interesting.


Still, I wonder how it compares to the H2n which was a recommendation
years ago on the list?

If I can save 50 bucks by not having features I wouldn't use anyway...




On 18.05.19 01:38, Jurgen Frenz wrote:

I found Tascam recorders to sound better than "the others" - the zoom devices 
have powerful marketing.

Forget about USB mics, they are crap and I'm polite. If you want to record 
straight into your com running Linux you exponentially add problem sources, I 
strongly encourage you not to.

Good luck


--
“Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.”

Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, May 18, 2019 1:26 AM, David van Ooijen  
wrote:


I own a portable Marantz with decent on-board mics that does the job. I
also own a slightly bigger Marantz (still portable) with on board mics
but that I connect proper mic to and use as my studios recording
device. Very, quiet mic preamps. Happy with both.
The best thing in both units is that you can override the auto gain
(don't even know if the bigger unit has auto gain, the bane of dynamic
playing).
David

David van Ooijen
[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
[2]www.davidvanooijen.nl

On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 20:16, Matthew Daillie
<[3]dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote:

I have a Tascam DR-1 and it has given me years of loyal service. It
gives a very clean, natural sound, has good build quality and the
original battery still provides outstanding autonomy. This model has
obviously been superseded but there are several others on offer. Try
to see one in the flesh before purchase to check on the robustness
of the models of the present range. Tascam have been in business for
years, notably providing equipment to professional recording studios
and radio stations but I suspect the cheaper models cut corners on
solidity.
Best,
Matthew
Le 17 mai 2019 Ã 17:29, Tristan von Neumann
<[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> a écrit :

  > Dear collective experience,

  >

  >

  > while we're at it:

  > I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.

  >

  >

  > What I want:

  > * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments

  >

  > (* use it as a usb mic)

  >

  > * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a

  session
  > might come along

  >

  > * I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the

  files
  > without removing the SD card

  >

  >

  > So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say

  the
  > noise is quite high, others don't.

  >

  > (Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really

  sparkling - I
  > know, this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but

  still...)
  >

  > In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.

  >

  >

  > What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be

  available
  > in Germany...)

  >

  >

  > Thanks!

  >

  >

  >

  >

  >

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[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Daniel Heiman
On the Amazon US website, on the "reviews" page for the Roland R-07 recorder, 
there is an extensive comparative discussion by Micheal Mathews of that 
recorder vs. the Zoom H-1 and the Tascam DR-07.  His conclusion is that the 
Roland wins for musical recording.
https://www.amazon.com/Roland-High-Resolution-Handheld-Recorder-R-07-BK/product-reviews/B079P7PHCJ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_hist_4?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&filterByStar=four_star&pageNumber=1

My own experience is with a Roland/Edirol R-09, the predecessor of the R-07.  
It is robust, compact, light-weight and produces outstanding quality musical 
recordings, provided you use a good external microphone, like the 
Audio-Technica AT2022 model.  The onboard microphones on the now-obsolete R-09 
have too much hiss for high-quality recording anywhere but in a pub.  All the 
recordings from the Byron Colby Barn series are done with the R-09 + AT2022 
combination.  On Nigel North's 11-course lute recital he played EXCEEDINGLY 
softly, but I still got a beautiful, clean audio track (YouTube processing of 
course does not allow for the full quality to be appreciated).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeUzsDrNvyU&list=PLpqjW-m8Wu61iDBYZbiIXcSVpPHop0g-x

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:29 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] decent field recorder for lute

Dear collective experience,


while we're at it:
I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device.


What I want:
* use it at home to record lute music and other instruments

(* use it as a usb mic)

* take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a session might 
come along

* I have linux, so at least it should be possible to extract the files without 
removing the SD card


So far, the Zoom H2n seems like the best option. Some people say the noise is 
quite high, others don't.

(Samples from youtube with guitar seem ok, but not really sparkling - I know, 
this is not a replacement big membrane studio mic, but still...)

In Germany, the Zoom is available for around 150 Eurobucks.


What are the alternatives? (and keep in mind that it should be available in 
Germany...)


Thanks!





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[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread r . turovsky
The best field recording device is your own iPhone, with a $50 Tascam stereo 
mic, and Rode recording app.
RT


http://turovsky.org
Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes.

> On May 17, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Daniel Heiman  wrote:
> 



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