[LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano
Two of my All time favorites ! Sal Salvaggio --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:40 AM Yes, I agree! Martin On 18/03/2011 22:46, wikla wrote: Original Message Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:00 +0200 From: wikla[1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: [2]baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear baroque lutenists, after having check-played through quite a few pieces by Jacques Gallot, I've come to the conclusion (that means this is my subjective opininion, of course!) that Jacques really is one of the great lute composers - in the level of F. da Milano, Dowland, E. Gaultier and such). And what especially came to mind, is that J. Gallot in a way tastes same as Francesco da Milano - about 150 years later: very economic writing, actually in extrem, very clever ideas of melody and harmony, extremely very well written to the instrument, its tuning, and to the fingers of both hands of the player. Not to speak of the enjoyment to the ears and understanding. So Jacques is thus taken to my heaven of lute geniuses! :-) Recommended! All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: C.P.E. Karamazov
Thank you howard --- On Sun, 12/5/10, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: C.P.E. Karamazov To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 2:04 PM On Dec 5, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Read up on the Ch.Burney account of C.P.E.Bach's own keyboard performance. OK, here it is: After dinner, which was elegantly served, and chearfully eaten, I prevailed upon him to sit down to a clavichord, and he played, with little intermission, till near eleven o'clock at night. During this time he grew so animated and possessed, that he not only played, but looked like one inspired. His eyes were fixed, his under lip fell, and drops of effervescence distilled from his countenance. He said, if he were to set to work frequently, in this manner, he should grow young again. Charles Burney, The present state of music in Germany, the Netherlands, and United Provinces (1775), p. 270-271 -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: mac
thanks for the mac tips ss --- On Sat, 9/18/10, Sal Salvaggio vag...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sal Salvaggio vag...@yahoo.com Subject: [LUTE] mac To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:11 PM Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] mac
Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: incompatibility gardening/lute playing?
Did you try a good pair of work gloves? SS --- On Tue, 6/29/10, Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Subject: [LUTE] incompatibility gardening/lute playing? To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 5:09 AM Dear lutenists Recently, I have found myself having to do some rather heavy gardening, which appears to be almost incompatible with lute playing. the simple fact of being physically tired is part of it, but also the fingers seem less supple after clenching a spade or a pick-axe. One lute player told me that even carrying suit-cases to a performance, can make their fingers stiff; and certain lute makers told me that using a lute maker's tools can make lute playing more difficult; although there are some excellent lute maker-players, even among us. % Do others have similar impressions, and if so, are there any ideas on how to get round this, (apart, of course simply from getting someone else to carry your lutes, and do the gardening, or play your lutes): some exercise between activities to help prepare for playing, perhaps? % At present, I am back in my flat in Paris, and so playing as much as I can, in spite of the hot weather, which also makes things more difficult, and I have regained the suppleness, but I will soon have to go back to gardening. Thanks for any advice, Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo
Hille Perl and Lee Santana recenty put out a duo cd of music for viol and lute/theorbo etc. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Eleanor Smith s0347...@sms.ed.ac.uk wrote: From: Eleanor Smith s0347...@sms.ed.ac.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo To: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:50 AM There is also a Dowland duet for lute and bass viol (if you do end up taking your lute!) ... it's at the end of one of his lute song books although I do have a pdf of the original (and my own working edition of it) if anyone is interested ... E Quoting David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:19 AM, hera caius[2]caiush2...@yahoo.com wrote: I am searching for some music for renaissance viol and theorbo... A theorbo being a baroque instrument and a renaissance viol a, well, renaissance instrument, you'll have to compromise somewhere, but this should not distract you in any way from playing beautiful music together. 16th century music Ortiz, but not the diminutions on the four-part madrigals/chansons, as these are not really for theorbe. If you can manage nonetheless, all the better for you, obviously. I prefer to play this music on a renaissance lute. Around 1600 Simpson is great. As are Italian diminutions by e.g. Rogniniono, Dalla Casa et al. Again, take care with the intabulated polyphony, that can be so hard on theorbo. Or bring your renaissance lute as an easy escape. If your viol player doesn't mind later music, go for Marais and lose yourself in his beautiful music. Want to go really modern? Abel or C. Ph. E. Bach. So good! So much to choose from, enjoy! David -- *** David van Ooijen [3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Ms Eleanor Smith, MMus PhD Candidate: Organology University of Edinburgh c/o St Cecilia's Hall 220 Cowgate, Niddry Street Edinburgh EH1 1LJ -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- References 1. http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=caiush2...@yahoo.com 3. http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi RV 588
This is the Noah's Ark one. I would probably use the Arch lute - and probably be bull whipped by purists in the process - SS --- On Thu, 6/18/09, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Vivaldi RV 588 To: lutelist Net Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 3:39 AM I'm to play in this party piece in two weeks. Fun! :-) It has two part for tiorba, as well as mandolines and what-not in pairs. Did anybody on the list ever play these tiorba parts? It could be done on theorbo in a, but then preferably with second string in the high octave, as it goes to high b'. It also needs low C. So I suppose some sort of mandora/callichon was intended, but I'm sorely tempted to use an archlute. It's fast as well ... David -- *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Off Topic Save La Petite Bande
Off TOpic - thought I'd pass this on SS La Petite Bande , Sigiswald Kuijkens baroque orchestra, is being threatened in its existence from 2010 ! The 'independent' commission that has to advise and 'assist' the flemish culture minister Bert Anciaux in his decisions concerning the government-subventions for 2010-2013 , has delivered an extremely negative and biassed pre-advise about La Petite Bande; in fact their recommendation is to strongly diminuish (or even stop) the subventions for LPB at all . Strange fact, if you realize that Sigiswald Kuijken has been honoured on February 2nd with the highest Cultural Award of the Flemish Government ... ! If you want to raise your voice in this context, please go to www.savelapetitebande.com and participate in the petition. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Jean-Baptiste Besard
Hello Eduard I studied the pieces in the CNRS edition many years ago and have revisited them recently. Nice upper range writing. Good for your left hand technique and knowledge of the fretboard. Sal Salvaggio [1]www.salvaggio.50megs.com --- On Sat, 1/31/09, E. Agullo eagu...@wanadoo.es wrote: From: E. Agullo eagu...@wanadoo.es Subject: [LUTE] Jean-Baptiste Besard To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 4:59 PM Hello, I've read a bit from Oeuvres pour luth seul de J.-B. Besard Edition CNRS ). I find this music interesting and I think that I will continue with my reading. A fast search on the web, gave almost no CDs with Besard's lute pieces. Only a few dances in collective programmes, but it seems that nobody has made a whole Besard recording. Is anybody from this list familiar with this composer ? In the preface of the book there is a study Sur la musique de Besard written by Andre Souris ): he explains with examples that the writing of Besard is sometimes very anarchic, with strange jumps of octave ( and this happens on the upper voice, the superius ), chords offbeat, parallel fifths, dissonances without resolution, etc. What do you think of all this ? I see in the ( complex, virtuoso ) tablature that he was a great professional of the lute. This is not a bad work made by a beginner or an amateur. Then, can we think of errata in the printing of the tablatures ? Or perhaps he played several pieces with a secret scordatura ? I find everything intriguing. If anybody has read carefully this music, and has worked on it ( for recital, or studio recording, etc ), I would like to know his/her point of view. A last question: It seems that Besard was an appreciated composer in his time ( his pieces were copied in manuscripts preserved nowadays in several libraries )...how is possible that nobody programmes his music today ? Thanks for your attention, Eduard V. Agullo To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.salvaggio.50megs.com/
[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch
Hi Nigel I'm usually lower on my 13 course hoffman rider copy. SS --- Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use a' 415 or higher or lower? Nigel To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[LUTE] Re: Transitional Tunings
Matthew Spring's book The History of the Lute in Britain has most of the info you will need on transitional tunings.Great book , by the way S.Salvaggio --- David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Luters, I'm trying to find out more about transitional tunings for the 10- course. I see that the Board Lute Book shows Harp-way, English Gaultier's, or Mersenne Extraordinaire, Harp-way Flat and French Flat. There are pieces in the Board book in those tunings, but I'm curious to know where else pieces may be found in transitional tunings. Are there other tunings also? Is there perhaps a modern edition available of pieces for 10-course in transitional tunings? David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
[LUTE] Pat O'brien's email
Does anyone out there have Pat O'brien's email Please reply privately Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Wedding gig
How abot Now, oh now her knees must part as the recessional- I think Dowland wrote that SS --- Louis Aull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all, Boy does this bring back memories. Good friends in the Baha'i faith had me play/sing at their wedding held in their front yard. Right in the middle of O Mistress Mine a neighbor two doors down fires up the chain saw. O for a steam calliope when you need one. Lou Aull -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
[LUTE] Re: Early Baroque basso continuo rules
That's the ticket. Way to go Malcolm! SS --- Malcolm Toms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an interesting site about Partimenti (Instructional basses) http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.edu/music/gjerdingen/partimenti/index.htm Malcolm P. Toms.| Beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing, Manager, Network Operations | there's a field. I'll meet you there. Dean of Arts Office, SFU. | E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]|( Jalal al-Din Rumi, 13thC ) Phone : (604) 291-3848 | LGS-Europe wrote: stylistic taste. Not so well-trained ears after all, then. Aw, say it ain't so!! After yesterday's thread, I was all set to throw the rules out the window and just play power chords! You know, untill last year I didn't even know what power-chords were! Obviously living in another world than many of my teenager guitar students .. David - but quite able to play just 5 in continuo ... David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz
[LUTE] Re: Strawinsky, Bream and a Lute
Bream live on the lute in the 1960's in concert in Europe audio only http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DsZj8N9cA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6LJlfGR18Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6LJlfGR18Y S.Salvaggio Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Another beginner's question
Hey, how come veteran rocker and John Dowland specialist Sting doesn't play with his pinkee planted? SS --- Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come gather round and check out Bob Dylan's guitar playing for a nice medieval lute plectrum technique. Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw Elvis Costello on TV recently and he played some finger-picking acoustic guitar, with his pinky on the soundboard. I thought he actually displayed pretty nice thumb-out lute technique. Maybe he's been secretly visiting Pat O'Brien. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Re: food drink songs?
I will give my love an apple folk song arrangement by Benjamin Britten There are also some great 16th cent. tobacco songs if you are into that SS --- LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for songs about food and drink. Both lute songs and continuo songs are welcome, even 19th (or 20th) century guitar songs are welcome. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Re: cello\lute duo
Bach 2 part inventions will keep you busy! - 3 part ones if you can cut the upper two parts.Some Scarlatti sonatas work well too. SS --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my friend plays the baroque cello, and we want to play some music together. Does anyone know where to start looking for duo music for cello and baroque lute? I don`t play continuo very well (yet), so I am basically looking for written out tabs or music in modern notation. Thanks for helping! Tom To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
[LUTE] cittern strings
Hi Anyone know who supplies wire renaissance cittern strings in the US. Got a 4 course - 44cm? S Salvaggio Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Discography Help Requested.
Thought I'd add these: Julian Bream Edition, Vol.5 Concertos Sonatas for Lute works by Vivaldi, Handel + Kohaut Julian Bream Edition, Vol. 20 J.S.Bach - Lute Suites Trio Sonatas. SS Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: list of great performers
How about Julian Bream? SS --- Roland Hogman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget Eugen Muller-Dombois Roland Hogman 2006-10-19 kl. 09.44 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I would add the Fathers of modern lute playing Walter Gerwig and Michael Sch=C3=A4ffer. Best wishes Thomas Anthony Bailes Robert Barto Paul Beier Timothy Burris Michel Cardin Bj=C3=B6rn Colell Michael D=C3=BCcker Eduardo Eg=C3=BCez Pierre Gross Jan Gr=C3=BCter Oswald Hebermehl Joachim Held Yasunori Imamura Konrad Jungh=C3=A4nel Lutz Kirchhof Jakob Lindberg Rolf Lislevand Viggo Mangor Evangelina Mascardi Ron McFarlane Jos=C3=A9 Miguel Moreno Nigel North Paul O'Dette Toyohiko Satoh Miguel Sedura John Schneiderman Karl-Ernst Schr=C3=B6der Hopkinson Smith Terrell Stone Stephen Stubbs Crawford Young Yerzi Zak Christian Zimmermann Andreas To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Is there a non-spruce topwood in your past/present/future lute?
I had a 13 course baroque 1730's Hoffman copy with sitka spruce built for me in 1980 by Dan Hachez. The top is very thin and has wonderful tone and projection.Probably my best instrument.One of the 1st lightly built lutes I've owned. I have played spruce classical guitars for years and recently bought a classical guitar with a cedal soundboard and mahogany sides/back. It has a more treble like tone than my older spruce top guitars but is a real canon in terms of projection. I like to use it when I play chamber music. SS --- EUGENE BRAIG IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody ever tried sitka for particularly thin soundboards, perhaps on mandolini or soprano lutes? Eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting
I thinkif my memory serves me correctly- that later in life - Dowland did play thumb out. But how about Paul O'dette playing theorbo and baroque lute thumb under?(this is based on second hand sightings) although I did see him years back play theorbo thumb under. You know, after listening to the Sting thing on the BBC I listened to the Early Music Show - they had some stuff on from the Brighton Early Music Festival. A group did some..ah hem.. pop tunes. Good Lord! Rolf L.'s group's new cd does some interesting things with the 'New Music ..one of the tunes sounds like a bebop tune! Gotta goI'm arranging some Police tunes for broken consort - I'm kinda hesitant about adding vocals - but - there's Sting's vocal style and nuances to copy I hope the performance will be hip enough. SS --- Joseph Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a question about how far the hip people go: Does anyone play Dowland using Thumb-out technique (as he seems to have favored) or with unison stringing on their lutes (as he seems to have favored) Or with double chanterelles (as was apparently the fashion re. The Schoole of Musicke)? Joseph Mayes On 10/9/06 8:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In einer eMail vom 09.10.2006 14:22:20 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: become something less than beautiful? when divisions are played like the Can she excuse divisions on the sting CD. Sounds like they were played with a knife and fork and the speed varying with the ability to play a particular passage. I listen to the radio performance yesterday with a few friends and the whole room burst into laughter at the point. That would be a nasty comment, if it were an amateur player, but considering he is supposed to be a specialist player, you tend to ask, who gives people these titles. I am sorry but POD can play that fast and it still sounds like music. Mark -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Sting pool
Fellow lutenetters and potential gambling buddies I think we should start a lute cd pool to see which lute cd has sold the most copies in the last 6 months..how's about 5 bucks a pop? ---anybody live in Nevada - I think we can run it from there.odds anyone? (I'd love to win that - I need $ for strings for my 13 course dm rig - better yet - maybe with all this lute on the airwaves hub-bub the gigs will start pouring in like crazy...) SS - stung __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Sting pool-A list and then some
These are the numbers for yahoo search results for Dowland +__ 194,000 for dowland Sting 16,500 for dowland o'dette 13,700 for dowland bream 10,500 for dowland deller (had to include this) 1,560 for dowland Hopkinson These are the numbers for yahoo search results for lute+__ 103,000 for Lute + sting 39,800 for Lute + o'dette 39,900 for Lute bream 10,700 for Lute hopkinson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A few thoughts...
Bravo Richard! My opinion on the whole Sting thing is...well... ..maybe it will produce more work for lute playersa little pop exposure can't hurt! The ship has come in. SS --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Luters, I find it interesting that some people get so ruffled at the idea that someone approaches what is beginning to seem like a sacred repertoire from an alternative perspective. But more to the point, speaking from a historical perspective, we know that a number of Dowland's songs continued to be circulated in continuo settings throughout the first half of the 17th century (Oxford mss). Would these not have been played on a single strung theorbo? Secondly, keyboards have the option to change ranks, use single strings (spinets-and these were certainly used in 17th century English domestic music settings), depending on the instrument they can use a variety of timbral options. And doesn't Dowland (as well as almost every other Elizabethan composer) give us numerous options as performance settings? Thereby offering us a wide timbral palette? Also, isn't it possible that there were some lutenists who (in the 17th cent.) might have played with single strings on an archlute? I raise this issue again because I recently came across an English musical dictionary (London;1740) whose publishing was overseen by Johann Pepusch in which the theorbo is described as (and this is a direct quote): The only difference between the Theorbo and Lute is , that the former has eight bass or thick strings, twice as long as those of the lute All of the strings are usually single, although there are some who double the bass strings with a little octave, and the small strings with a unison; in which case it bearing more resemblance to the lute than the common theorbo; the Italians call it Arciliuto or Archlute. Given that there are numerous examples from things like the Charles Coleman manuscripts in which (and remember this instrument is called a theorbo) there is a 4 - 3 suspension between the first and second course, or just a leading tone f# on the second course resolving to an open first course g...why is so hard to imagine that there wouldn't be a single (as well as double) strung instrument called a theorbo in England with a high g? And let us not forget that there are so many publications which call for a theorboed-lute, I know of Linda Sayce's article on this subject, but I am not completely convinced...and think that it was a more diverse situation. And then look at the painting of Lady Mary Sydney holding her theorbo...are we to conclude that the string length of that instrument supported a re-entrant tuning? Even if she is standing on a platform of some sort the instrument still appears quite small (as compared to a 17th c. Italian theorbo). I know that this is conjecture, (and I am trying to rattle a couple of cages), but there is something to this On a number of different Handel opera engagements I have recently shown up with 3 instruments: standard single strung a re-entrant theorbo; single strung English Theorbo (in G with only the top string down); and finally a single strung theorboed lute (as I like to call it). On every occasion the directors (and these have included : Chris Hogwood, Roy Goodman, Harry Bickett etc...) have chosen the latter do to it's ability to realized high harmony as well as offer a strong bass; they all felt that this was the most appropriate musical choice...frankly, for Handel I had to agree with them given the fact that I was the only plucker(if there had been two, the decision might very well had been different. Finally, I always come back to two articles that I regularly assign for my students which both suggest a greater timbral variety than what is normally accepted today: Paul Beier's great essay on Right Hand Lute Technique (LSA) and Paul O'Dette's essay on timbral variety from the Utrech Lute Festival (c. 1988??) which he concludes with the enlightened comment different strokes from different folks. That Sting might want to approach this repertoire from a later perspective (if that was indeed his intention) should not offend anyone, since we know that Dowland's songs circulated for quite a while after his death (his performance is another thing and that is where personal taste and subjectivity come into the discussion). But to just condemn it out of hand seems to be (once again) assembling the EMP (early music police). Let's celebrate that he is hopefully going to make Dowland a more familiar name. Cordially Yours, R Savino -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has
[LUTE] Re: Hear Sting Dowland CD at amazon.de
--- Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking about playing with modern orchestras: If you should ever be asked to do so: Leave it! I am playing these eve with a modern orchestra and would say: It doesn't make any sense. What has an archlute to do in an ensemble of 8 modern violins, viols, 3 Cellos, a double Bass, 2 oboe, bassoon and a choir? Hi Thomas Have you tried to amplify? I bought a really nice inexpensive Crate amp to play with large vocal + instrumental groups. I also use it to play outside and for large social gatherings. Get a nice mic and away you go - not all that authentic - but it works I might add that I never amplify in small chamber groups or while playing solo recitals. SS __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Festival
For those of you in the New York Area The Classical Guitar Society of Upstate New Youk will present it's Annual Fall Festival in Oneonta, New York next weekend, Sept 30 + October 1. Featured performer will be Jerry Willard playing the lute, baroque guitar, 19th century guitar and modern guitar go to the URL for details!! http://www.cgsuny.org/events.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: OT: list of visual artists also active as professional or competent amateur musicians/composers
Django Reinhardt! --- bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: many of the medical people i've known in my life have also been involved in the arts in someway. musicians who paint (on-going list:) - tony bennet - frank sinatra an actor but lee marvin was a wonderful painter. --- Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend in Ukraine has asked me to help her to compile a list of visual artists also active as professional or competent amateur musicians/composers (not necessarily lutenists) from antiquity to our time, for her master thesis. Any ideas from the Collective Wisdom? Or from Vasari? RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano
Playing ALBERT DE RIPPE --- Caroline Usher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francesco's birthday is coming up - Aug. 18. What will you be doing? Caroline Caroline Usher DCMB Administrative Coordinator 613-8155, Room B343 LSRC Mailing address: Box 91000, Duke University, Durham NC 27708 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi D-major concerto
Hi A dminor 11 or 13th course works - so does a G lute of some sort- I've played it on a G lute and it works well - a lot of careful fingering on the G lute has to be done though - some say it was written for a visiting german lutenist who happened to play the Dm lute - good heavens...could it be? SS --- LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll have to play the Vivaldi D-major lute concerto next month. I thought a small a'-lute would be the best choice (fastest, best projection), but I have a cd with very funky performance by Il Giardino Armonico where the part is played on an archlute. Strong, but a little woolly. Sounds like it has a seperate mic, as well. Any experience or comments out there? David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Re: sting's bach
I wonder if he works out? - sensitive playing though! SS --- Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:13 AM 5/26/2006, Paul Pleijsier wrote: How about Sting's Bach? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAQRMrr4zpc PP Opting for Sting's choice in duds would not do any favors for the finish of my guitar. Eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Flight Case Update
Has anyone ever built a crate for their lute + case. I'm thinking about building one out of 1/4 inch plywood with foam on the inside to hold the instrument snug. Maybe put wheels on it? Some luthiers even us cardboard boxes with styrofoam spaghetti stuff for padding to ship new instruments. SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com The information transmitted is intended for recipient or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the material from all computers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A different 6 course question
There is, I believe, a prebyter (sp?) spacing - of some sort that may be wider SS __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Baroque guitar case
Kingham Case Co. - London(UK) Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com The information transmitted is intended for recipient or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the material from all computers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: web addresses in lute mail
Hi Wayne Thanks for the heads up on that - I'll take my signature file off my postings - what a wierd thing to happen - sorry about the mishap.Must be some kind of bizarre cyber conspiracy - eegadds! SS __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: STING PLAYS AN ARCHLUTE
I wonder if he was playing on gut, nylon or nylgut? SS __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] STING PLAYS AN ARCHLUTE
I was browsing the Grammy site + clicked on 'Stars fete James Taylor video clip - tribute to JT and lo and behold - Sting is singing to his - ARCHLUTE! here's the site http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/48th_Annual/ Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com The information transmitted is intended for recipient or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the material from all computers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: STING PLAYS AN ARCHLUTE
I'd love to see him play a tromba marina! SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com The information transmitted is intended for recipient or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the material from all computers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] concert announcement
Greetings I will be doing a lecture recital Elizabethan Airs and Dances for Lute at the Presbyterian Church in Stamford, NY this Sunday, January 29th at 3 pm. On the program will be works by Cutting, Dowland, Robinson, Holborne and anonymous pieces from manuscript sources. If you are in the area - stop by! Sal Salvaggio Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com The information transmitted is intended for recipient or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the material from all computers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Finale tab question
Hi I'm using Finale and was wondering if anyone out there knows how to change the auto tab function from numbers to letters for french tab style - I seemed to have done it before - but I forgot what I did - SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strings and necks
Hi I had a 10 course lute done up with a wider spacing -based on a historical instrument - presybter(sp?) spacing or something like that/works great - the bridge is wider than my 13 course Hoffman copy!!! So I gotta do a bit of prac. when I switch instruments. SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: continuo
Hi One thing I did years ago, prior to North's book and other continuo tutors being published was to take madrigal collections with keyboard reductions and read the bottom 3 or 4 parts or just read them from a choral score, then go back and take just the bass line and do an on site realization(protocontinuo) It's interesting to see the formulas they used. Every once in a while I put basso figures under some notes. The AR editions of Caccini, Peri etc. are also fun to go through the figures are minimal as compared to later works by Bach, Teleman etc. The Malpierro Vivaldi series, available in most University Libraries is great too. But, as far as the 17th cent. goes, watch that Purcell - some hairy figures. At the same time I was doing this - late 70's early 80's - I was giving guitar lessons in studios and in the public schools, and worked on harmonizing Go tell Aunt Rhody and other gems, either in jazz chort forms or with a more classical, finger style/bassline block chordal or arpeggiated ala Giuliani approach. . Oh...and do as much harmonic analysis of the period you are working with as you can...Hope this helps SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Guitar and lute + theory
Jim Concerning Music Theory - study basso continuo on your instrumeni - chord inversions and such - Nigel North has a great book on the subject. Sal Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
'THE ZONK OF THE LUTE IS OUT OFA' TUNA HALFA DA TIMEA' SORRY - I COULDN'T HELP IT ss Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
Hi All There is a fantastic biography by Thomas F. Heck entitled Mauro Giuliani Virtuoso Guitarist and Composer pub. by Editions Orphee 1995 that chronicles the guitarist's life, the guitar in Italy and it's place in the concert life of Vienna. A fascinating must read for those interested in guitar history. I picked the book in back in March at a bookshop in Baltimore - devoured it in two days. SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Fw: Byrd
How 'bout this name for a vihuela Quartet EL MAESTROS SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Fw: Byrd
How 'bout a Spanish translation of: We would love to play the lute but the Inquisitors won't let us quartet. Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Attributions (was Byrd, and notation, and a few other things)
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Re: Historical pitch (was lute notation)
What was the low pitch in Bach's Germany - 392? SS Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Byrd
A bit on Treble clef vs. tab and other ramblings- When I started to play the renaissance lute back in the winter of'75, I worked from keyboard transcriptions. I didn't read tab at the time. I saw the lines in this richly contrapuntal music and used my skills at fingering to come up with workable solutions. After learning to read tablature, I discovered that many of the composers for the lute dropped voices where I didn't in my own arrangements, Chords were voiced in different ways, etc. Each lute composer had their own unique way of doing this. Their individual approach to the music was part of their own unique style. At one time, early on, I did use guitar treble clef - but the pitch was off by a third -(or more with all the different tunings ex: lutes in A, D, etc) I figured I might as well hear the pitches that I was seeing so I turned to keyboard transcriptions - this also helped alot with my continuo playing later on. I guess you could write out lute music for guitar with the 3rd strting tuned down a half step and lots of fingerings - I got a copy of Strizich's book of deVisee to play on the baroque guitar as well as the Weiss London ms. in treble clef to play on the 13 c. lute- I have to admit that - with all the fingerings clogging up the page and the octave displacements- the experience was a bit on the frustrating side. IMHO guitarists should learn to read tablature! That would certainly open up a wealth of works for exploration. I think people like Arthur (da Milano) have helped to bring forgotten(due to the lost art of reading lute tab) lute composers to the music world. I also believe that lutenists who present works from original(or facsimile)editions have given us a closer picture of what the composer intended and heard in his head. Take Beethovan - his 9th played on the piano is like black and white compared to the orchestral rendition. He conceived it for the orchestra - battling sectional forces, antiphonal passeges etc.. Ever play Recuerdos on the piano - or imagine what it might sound like - humand all lutenist should learm to read modern notation as well - couldn't hurt Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Byrd + when the fishin's bad
Chris wrote: And as a very practical matter, if you're concerned about being taken seriously as a musician, you are going to get handed music in modern notation And oh - how true this is - in my career as a professional player the ability to read all the clefs has helped get the gigs. The most interesting being Cole Porter's lute part in Kiss Me Kate! Made a bundle on that show off to an idea. I do wish that this bickering can stop. I guess the fishin's bad or something. Hey, I got an idea - how 'bout we work as a collective and compile lists of useful things lute players and musicologists need - maybe draw on our experiences - what do we do for sight reading notation, some continuo or proto continuo ARS editions we can use to improve our musicianship skills, books or music we might have used to learn to notation on the lute or compile a list of progressive pieces in tablature that guitar players can use to read tablature or help musicologists with practical fingerings in their keyboard renditions which in turn might show in notational form the composers actual intent in terms of line realizations etc. ..I've got a lot to share - how about you guys? Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Byrd
Arthur Ness - A helpful, articulate and scholarly member of our list - a nice fellow as well!!! Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Byrd
Luters, I am presently working on a Pavan by Byrd set by Francis Cutting for a program of Elizabethan Ballads and Dances.I put the piece in with a group of Cutting pieces. The Cutting style is evident in his reworking or recomposition of this work. I consider it as original in the way Mr. Cutting has used the lute to express his rendition of the Byrd piece. Would I call this a Cutting composition? NO. I think of it as an original Cutting impression of a keyboard piece by Byrd - in effect an original piece for the lute by Cutting, much as I consider Andres Segovia's Bach Chaconne or his recomposition of DeVisee or Llobet's thinning out + guitaristic coloring of Granados as original works for the guitar...Let the semantic fur fly Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Galilei
Mathias I have not heard the recording but the division or double might possibly have been improvised by Mr. Beier, as was the practice by lewters ond others from that time period.There is a good article in an old LSA newsletter (80's or early 90's I think) where someone uses Galelei's works to demonstrate how to do this. I love this manuscript because it heavily leans in the direction of the broken style of variation. Sal Salvaggio __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
lecture recital
Fellow Pluckers I will be doing a lecture-mini-recital on Thursday, April 21st - 6:30 pm at: New Jersey Guitar Mandolin Society Bergen County Academies 200 Hackensack Ave. Hackensack, NJ I'm going to play works by Gaspar Sanz on the Baroque Guitar and pieces by Kapsberger and Dowlan on the lute. Hope to see you there Sal Salvaggio www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: lute outreach
I'm doing a little lecture recital for the New Jersey Classical Guitar and Mandolin Society Thursday, April 21 in Hoboken - Kapsberger, Sanz and Dowland,,,should be fun! Sal Salvaggio - __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Repertoire, was: memorization
I take it you do not care for Henze's music. Great stuff really - especially when you read thru some of it. Sort of breaks out of the mold of the spanish guitar music stuff - difficult to play - takes concentration and several hearings to appreciate. Gesualdo probably had that same problem. Sal __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: mesmerization
MT wrote Renaissance music is not Romantic music (in the context of the music history definition of the word) -the players role is often to detach one's ego from the performance and let the music speak for itself. Oh- what treatise did you find the detached ego stuff from - seems to me that your ego needs to be there - or maybe you are not allowed to use your ego unless you are playing baroque music and all that Doctrine of Affection's Stuff' I'd really hate to play Dowland or daMilano and break some sort of Early Music Mafia rule. God forbid! Sal __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Continuo
--- Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You who play continuo by different instruments, you must know the situation? Any good advice for learning more and more continuo instruments? One possibility could be to forget the keys and start thinking just in intervals? That could make also transposion in-flyeasier! I don't own a theorbo but do play continuo on Baroque guitar, 10 course lute and the 13 course baroque dm lute. I think if I would take up the theorbo I would play one in A - the G one would probably be the easiest - coming from the ren lute - but the A theorbo basically has a guitar built into it from the 2nd string down to the 6th I believe - so coming from the E guitar it might be kind of cool just a thought. Sal Salvaggio www.salvaggio.50megs.com __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Jacob Polak
Does anyone know if Jacob Polak was Jewish? SS __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: A lute, Hopkinson Smith
The actual lute Hoppy played on his recent Dowland tour was an eight course lute built in 2002 by Joel Van Lennup. I heard him play in Troy NY a few weeks ago and also played the instrument - which is magnificent, by the way - But I don't know what instrument is pictured in the flyer = his 8 c. had the standard configuration with a multiribbed back made of Yew - very light to hold. SS __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Dawn Culbertson
Ed, It is sad to hear of Dawn's passing. I met her at a LSA seminar many years ago. She was enthusiastic about the lute and it's music. A devoted advocate for our beloved instrument. She will be missed. Sal Salvaggio __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: I am sorry...
With God On Our Side Bob Dylan Album:The Times They Are A-Changin' LYRICS: Oh, my name it ain't nothin', my age it means less The country I come from is called the Midwest It's taught and brought up there, the laws to abide And that the land that I live in has God on its side. Oh, the history books tell it, they tell it so well The cavalries charged, the Indians fell The cavalries charged, the Indians died Oh, the country was young with God on its side. The Spanish American war had its day And the Civil War too was soon laid away And the names of the heroes i's made to memorize With guns in their hands and God on their side. The First World War, boys, it came an it went The reason for fightin' I never did get But I learned to accept it, accept it with pride For you don't count the dead when God's on your side. The Second World War boys, came to an end We forgave the Germans and then we were friends Though they murdered six million, in the ovens they fried The Germans now too have God on their side. I've learned to hate Russians all through my whole lifeIf another war comes it's them we must fight To hate them and fear them, to run and to hide And accept it all bravely with God on my side. But now we got weapons of chemical dust If fire them we're forced to, then fire them we must One push of the button an' shot the world wide An' you never ask questions when God's on your side Through a many dark hour i've been thinkin' 'bout this That Jesus Christ was betrayed by a kiss But I can't think for you, you'll have to decide Whether Judas Iscariot had God on his side. So now as I'm leavin', i'm weary as hell The confusion I'm feelin' ain't no tongue can tell The words fill my head and fall to the floor That if God's on our side, he'll stop the next war. __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Concert in Upstate NY this weekend
On Saturday, October 16th at 7;30 pm at the Temple Beth El , 83 Chestnut St. in Oneonta, NY David Raphaelson and Salvatore Salvaggio will present a joint recital of solos and duets by Lawes, Carulli, Scarlatti, Sanz, Vivaldi, Foden and others on parlour guitar, baroque guitar, lute and modern guitars. Tickets are $10. Call (607) 432-8480 for further information. ___ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Upstate NY Concert time change to 7:30pm
The Windfall Dutch Barn, Salt Springville, NY will present A Potpourri of 17th 19th Century Solos and Duets on Wednesday, July 28 at 7:30. The performers are Mary Ann Ross- Soprano, David Raphaelson -baritone, 19th century modern guitars and Salvatore Salvaggio -lute, baroque modern guitars. Works by Dowland, Carulli, Foden, daMilano and others will be performed. Artist Bios: David Raphaelson performs regularly on the parlor guitar and the concert guitar. Dave has been a featured performer at museums and historical sites throughout the Northeast and has been awarded grants from the New York Council on the Arts and the New York Foundation For The Humanities. Dave holds a graduate degree in guitar performances from Northern Arizona University and has released three compact discs to his credit. Mary-Ann Ross has performed as soloist with a wide array of music groups -choral, chamber and orchestral- including appearances with the Catskill and Albany Symphonies. She has presented works by Virgil Thompson, Michael Tippett, George Walker, John Cage, Tom Johnson and Yehudi Winter in the presence of and in collaboration with the composers. A Juilliard graduate, her voice teachers include Josephine Antoine, Belle Soudant, Alice Howland, Helen Boatright and Cynthis Hoffmann. She is a member of the National Association of Teachers of Singing (NATS) and the American Guild of Musical Artists (AGMA Salvatore Salvaggio has performed in recitals for over 30 years. He has played with the Flagstaff Symphony Glimmerglass Opera Orchestras, recorded for the New York State Historical Association, given recitals at the Boston Early Music Festival and aired a program of renaissance lute music for NPR station WSKG. His 2003 fall tour included concerts for the Long Island, Philadelphia and Upstate New York Guitar Societies, The Listening Room ,Roswell, Georgia , Cafe Lena, Saratoga, NY and the Stamford Performing Arts Center __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Announcement: Concert in Upstate NY
The Windfall Dutch Barn, Salt Springville, NY will present A Potpourri of 17th 19th Century Solos and Duets on Wednesday, July 28 at 8 pm. The performers are Mary Ann Ross- Soprano, David Raphaelson -baritone, 19th century modern guitars and Salvatore Salvaggio -lute, baroque modern guitars. Works by Dowland, Carulli, Foden, daMilano and others will be performed. Artist Bios: David Raphaelson performs regularly on the parlor guitar and the concert guitar. Dave has been a featured performer at museums and historical sites throughout the Northeast and has been awarded grants from the New York Council on the Arts and the New York Foundation For The Humanities. Dave holds a graduate degree in guitar performances from Northern Arizona University and has released three compact discs to his credit. Mary-Ann Ross has performed as soloist with a wide array of music groups -choral, chamber and orchestral- including appearances with the Catskill and Albany Symphonies. She has presented works by Virgil Thompson, Michael Tippett, George Walker, John Cage, Tom Johnson and Yehudi Winter in the presence of and in collaboration with the composers. A Juilliard graduate, her voice teachers include Josephine Antoine, Belle Soudant, Alice Howland, Helen Boatright and Cynthis Hoffmann. She is a member of the National Association of Teachers of Singing (NATS) and the American Guild of Musical Artists (AGMA Salvatore Salvaggio has performed in recitals for over 30 years. He has played with the Flagstaff Symphony Glimmerglass Opera Orchestras, recorded for the New York State Historical Association, given recitals at the Boston Early Music Festival and aired a program of renaissance lute music for NPR station WSKG. His 2003 fall tour included concerts for the Long Island, Philadelphia and Upstate New York Guitar Societies, The Listening Room ,Roswell, Georgia , Cafe Lena, Saratoga, NY and the Stamford Performing Arts Center __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
A BIT OFF TOPIC BUT SOMEWHAT PRESIDENTIAL
I thought this might be of interest.. From the Charlotte Observer - Jan 18 - 2004 Jim Morrill If Bill Clinton's saxophone was a symbol of exuberance, then Kerry's mid-life fascination with mastering the classical guitar suggests a more subdued inner nature ... Listening to Kerry play -- and I'm the last one to judge musical talent -- I was struck by both his intense concentration and the mournful quality to the music, whether it is a melody from Segovia or a slow, sad-eyed rendition of the Beatles' Yesterday.Kerry's fingernails are a bit elongated on his right, guitar-strumming hand, but I was surprised when he said at one point, People think I'm weird because the nails on one hand are longer than the ones on the other. Presidential candidates are allowed to find soothing refuge in playing the classical guitar, but they are never supposed to self-consciously muse aloud about being judged weird. S. Salvaggio www.salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
Bulk?
Any one know why my lutelist stuff is winding up in my bulk mail folder on Yahoo? Sal __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/
19th cent string question+ nylgut
Greetings, I have an original 19th century parlour guitar - I'm guessing that it is from the 1860's -70's + presently string it with modern medium gauge nylon classical guitar strings. It sounds great when I play with nails, but I often play concerts w/o nails with lutes and baroque guitars and was wondering if anyone has tried nylgut on 19th cent. guitars. I would do regular gut but I've come to enjoy the durability/predictable nature of nylgut on my baroque guitar, they have a brighter quality. - and also, any suggestions on wound/unwound basses? Sal Salvaggio __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Concert announcement
To those in the Philadelphia Area Salvatore Salvaggio Lute and Baroque Guitar French Baroque Suites by Grenerin, Campion + De Visee/ Fantasias, Ayres and Dances for lute by da Milano, Dowland and others Date + time: Sunday, Oct. 12, 2003 3 pm Location: Settlement Music School Mary Curtis Branch 416 Queen St Philadelphia, PA Sponsored by the Philadelphia Classical Guitar Society __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
