[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Hi Craig Another option for lute tabulature fonts are those created by Steve Horn, primarily for users of Sibelius for typesetting tabulature, but they can be used in other contexts as well, so they might meet your needs: https://www.scoringnotes.com/tutorials/leroy-early-music-fonts-for-sibelius/ I am using these fonts (with permission and acknowledgement) in LuteScribe, and they look quite nice. Best Wishes - Luke On 25-Mar-2020 01:31, Mac User wrote: Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I’ve had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I’ve tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don’t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- __ Orlando Lutes http://www.orlando-lutes.com
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Yes, they are free for any non commercial use. Of course, I encourage
everyone to use them together with Fronimo :-)))
Francesco
Messaggio originale
Da: "Frank A. Gerbode, M.D."
Data: 29/03/20 20:15 (GMT+01:00)
A: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
The fronimo fonts are just regular windows fonts. They are available
in
the free demo version of fronimo.
But I would check with [1]Francesco Tribioli to see if there are
copyright issues in using these fonts in finale.
--Sarge
On 3/29/2020 06:09, Mac User wrote:
Fronimo's fonts do look great, but . . .
1. Wouldn't I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I
would have a
program I can't install or use on my Mac.
2. It is my understanding that Fronimo's fonts are formatted for
Windows and don
't work on the Mac anyway.
Is this correct?
Craig
On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Fabio Rizza [2]
wrote:
Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale.
Regards
Fabio
Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto:
Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software
for many ye
ars. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music
for a mi
xed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale
does a fab
ulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've
had (and
have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the
letters
when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on
my compute
r; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when
two or mo
re notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo,
but I don'
t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone
here hav
e a recommendation?
Craig Wiggins
Durham, NC
To get on or off this list see list information at
[3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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11132 Dell Ave
Forestville, CA 95436-9491
Home phone: 707-820-1759
Website: [5]http://www.gerbode.net
"The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got."
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References
1. mailto://ftribi...@gmail.com/
2. mailto:fabio_ri...@alice.it
3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
4. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net
5. http://www.gerbode.net/
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
The fronimo fonts are just regular windows fonts. They are available in the free demo version of fronimo. But I would check with [1]Francesco Tribioli to see if there are copyright issues in using these fonts in finale. --Sarge On 3/29/2020 06:09, Mac User wrote: Fronimo's fonts do look great, but . . . 1. Wouldn't I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I would have a program I can't install or use on my Mac. 2. It is my understanding that Fronimo's fonts are formatted for Windows and don 't work on the Mac anyway. Is this correct? Craig On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Fabio Rizza [2] wrote: Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale. Regards Fabio Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many ye ars. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mi xed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fab ulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my compute r; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or mo re notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don' t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here hav e a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. ([4]sa...@gerbode.net) 11132 Dell Ave Forestville, CA 95436-9491 Home phone: 707-820-1759 Website: [5]http://www.gerbode.net "The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got." -- References 1. mailto://ftribi...@gmail.com/ 2. mailto:fabio_ri...@alice.it 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 5. http://www.gerbode.net/
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
The question of copyright and right to use may still be an issue. You might want to check with the person that writes Fronimo to be sure. David -Original Message- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Jurgen Frenz Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:34 AM To: Mac User Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale from what I know there is no distinct font format for Windows. The fonts are for download in the file section of the Fronimo group, you can even you them in your text processor if you wish. As explained elsewhere also by me the use of Fronimo on a Mac is without big problems. There are a few keyboard shortcuts that work differently but I don't remember. Did you google on this list? It was discussed a number of times, as I said I explained in detail how I use it on a Mac. Good luck! Jurgen ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:09 PM, Mac User wrote: > Fronimo’s fonts do look great, but . . . > > 1. Wouldn’t I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I would > have a program I can’t install or use on my Mac. > 2. It is my understanding that Fronimo’s fonts are formatted for Windows and > don’t work on the Mac anyway. > Is this correct? > > Craig > > > > On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Fabio Rizza fabio_ri...@alice.it wrote: > > Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale. > > Regards > > Fabio > > Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto: > > > > > Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for > > > many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque > > > music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and > > > while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., > > > the one complaint I’ve had (and have made it myself) is the look and > > > function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French > > > style. I’ve tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem > > > adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more > > > notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I > > > don’t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does > > > anyone here have a recommendation? > > > Craig Wiggins > > > Durham, NC > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
from what I know there is no distinct font format for Windows. The fonts are for download in the file section of the Fronimo group, you can even you them in your text processor if you wish. As explained elsewhere also by me the use of Fronimo on a Mac is without big problems. There are a few keyboard shortcuts that work differently but I don't remember. Did you google on this list? It was discussed a number of times, as I said I explained in detail how I use it on a Mac. Good luck! Jurgen ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:09 PM, Mac User wrote: > Fronimo’s fonts do look great, but . . . > > 1. Wouldn’t I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I would > have a program I can’t install or use on my Mac. > 2. It is my understanding that Fronimo’s fonts are formatted for Windows and > don’t work on the Mac anyway. > Is this correct? > > Craig > > > > On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Fabio Rizza fabio_ri...@alice.it wrote: > > Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale. > > Regards > > Fabio > > Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto: > > > > > Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for > > > many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque > > > music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and > > > while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., > > > the one complaint I’ve had (and have made it myself) is the look and > > > function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French > > > style. I’ve tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem > > > adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more > > > notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I > > > don’t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does > > > anyone here have a recommendation? > > > Craig Wiggins > > > Durham, NC > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Miles These are good options! I will have to figure out how to make Finale use "r" instead of "c" for all 2nd fret notes. I don't readily know if that's possible, but I will explore that option this week. Also: how do most players feel about using mensural notation for the rhythms? I have also created a template that uses the traditional "Stem and Flag" system used by Fronimo, and it looks really good, but I'm curious as to preferences. Cheers! Craig On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Miles Dempster <[1]miles.demps...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Craig, I'm a Mac user as well. Have you tried looking at Palatino/Bold/Italic?: a b r d e f g h i k l m n. I created a modified version which I use in my publications: [2]http://scoreconversions.com For baroque style there is Cochin: a b r d e f g h i k l m n Best Miles Dempster On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Fabio Rizza <[3]fabio_ri...@alice.it> wrote: Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale. Regards Fabio Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:miles.demps...@gmail.com 2. http://scoreconversions.com/ 3. mailto:fabio_ri...@alice.it 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Fronimo’s fonts do look great, but . . . 1. Wouldn’t I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I would have a program I can’t install or use on my Mac. 2. It is my understanding that Fronimo’s fonts are formatted for Windows and don’t work on the Mac anyway. Is this correct? Craig > On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Fabio Rizza wrote: > > Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale. > > Regards > Fabio > > Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto: >> Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for >> many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque >> music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while >> Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one >> complaint I’ve had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the >> font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I’ve tried many >> fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the >> letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A >> friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don’t believe that one works on a >> Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? >> >> Craig Wiggins >> Durham, NC >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > >
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale. Regards Fabio Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto: Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I’ve had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I’ve tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don’t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > Wow thanks. That's some progress. > > Unfortunately, this creates Thysius style tabs with the 7th line always > present, which is weird to read as I tend to confuse the lower courses. > > Is there a possibility to hide the 7th line and only show when it is > used, like "normal" tabs? :) > > > On 25.03.20 18:46, guy_and_liz Smith wrote: >> Just in case it wasn't clear, I'm talking about MuseScore, not Finale. >> >> Also, here's the relevant online help URL for the Staff/Part Properties >> dialog: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/staff-part-properties >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: guy_and_liz Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM >> To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >> Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale >> >> Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context >> dialog. There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move >> the cursor and click a few times to get the one with this option. Use the >> dialog's Edit String Data (near the bottom) to add strings and define their >> pitches (you can also change the pitches for the first six from their >> defaults). >> >> Guy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu >> [mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tristan von >> Neumann >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:17 AM >> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale >> >>If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument >>list. >> >>When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" >>filed under "early music". >> >>Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff. >> >>Edit as usual, but you get letters. As I said, more than 6 courses >>doesn't seem to be possible. >> >>If you find out how to add diapasons, please let me know. >> >>On 25.03.20 08:40, Wim Loos wrote: >> >>Daar Tristan, >>I'm using Musescore for 'normal' notes and bars. � >>I wonder of jou know where I can find a manual to use the program to >>create a french tablature. >>Thanks in advance, >>best regards, >>Wim Loos >> >>Op wo 25 mrt. 2020 06:54 schreef Tristan von Neumann >><[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>: >> >> For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which >> is >> also free. >> However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 >> courses. >> Editing is quite easy. >> On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: >> > � � �I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works >> pretty well. My >> > � � �only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create >> problems as >> > � � �would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the >> same problem >> > � � �twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under >> the bridge. >> > � � �Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all >> is >> well. They >> > � � �are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much >> in the way >> > � � �of computer power. >> > � � �One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a >> space). >> If you >> > � � �don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll >> want >> to map one >> > � � �onto it. I'd be lost without it. >> > � � �Sean >> > >> > � � �On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User >> <[1][2]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> >> > � � �wrote: >> > >> > � � � �Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music >> notation >> software >> > � � � �for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging >> Renaissance >> and early >> > � � � �Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto >> in A, >> Soprano >> > � � � �in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, >
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Yes, that's how I am using it so it's definitely possible. That said It's been several months since I last used MuseScore for tablature, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. IIRC you use the Staff/Properties dialog to set the number of lines to six (near the top). It then treats the seventh and lower courses that you defined in Edit String Data like additional lines for data entry, but puts them below the 6 line staff with an appropriate number of '/' chars. Also, the Advanced Style Properties button allows you to tweak a lot of things, like the font. I remember that it took some frustrating trial and error to do all the necessary tweaks, but it eventually produced some nice looking 8-course/6-line tab. Annoying but you only need to do it once. Ganbatte! Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:31 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale Wow thanks. That's some progress. Unfortunately, this creates Thysius style tabs with the 7th line always present, which is weird to read as I tend to confuse the lower courses. Is there a possibility to hide the 7th line and only show when it is used, like "normal" tabs? :) On 25.03.20 18:46, guy_and_liz Smith wrote: > Just in case it wasn't clear, I'm talking about MuseScore, not Finale. > > Also, here's the relevant online help URL for the Staff/Part Properties > dialog: > https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmusescore.org%2Fen%2Fhandbook%2Fstaff-part-properties&data=02%7C01%7C%7C484d6d0b0fb24fc8dedf08d7d0ec7f9d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207586527156639&sdata=yo%2FBZYdMdfkm3D1eGkMudtKUrWr8WUOQDGbJhZDrXro%3D&reserved=0 > > > > -Original Message- > From: guy_and_liz Smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM > To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale > > Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context > dialog. There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move the > cursor and click a few times to get the one with this option. Use the > dialog's Edit String Data (near the bottom) to add strings and define their > pitches (you can also change the pitches for the first six from their > defaults). > > Guy > > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu > [mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tristan von > Neumann > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:17 AM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale > > If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument > list. > > When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" > filed under "early music". > > Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff. > > Edit as usual, but you get letters. As I said, more than 6 courses > doesn't seem to be possible. > > If you find out how to add diapasons, please let me know. > > On 25.03.20 08:40, Wim Loos wrote: > > Daar Tristan, > I'm using Musescore for 'normal' notes and bars. � > I wonder of jou know where I can find a manual to use the program to > create a french tablature. > Thanks in advance, > best regards, > Wim Loos > > Op wo 25 mrt. 2020 06:54 schreef Tristan von Neumann > <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>: > > For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which > is > also free. > However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 > courses. > Editing is quite easy. > On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: > > � � �I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works > pretty well. My > > � � �only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create > problems as > > � � �would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the > same problem > > � � �twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under > the bridge. > > � � �Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is > well. They > > � � �are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much > in the way > > � � �of computer power. > > � � �One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). > If you > > � � �don't have one on your mac (or w
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Wow thanks. That's some progress. Unfortunately, this creates Thysius style tabs with the 7th line always present, which is weird to read as I tend to confuse the lower courses. Is there a possibility to hide the 7th line and only show when it is used, like "normal" tabs? :) On 25.03.20 18:46, guy_and_liz Smith wrote: Just in case it wasn't clear, I'm talking about MuseScore, not Finale. Also, here's the relevant online help URL for the Staff/Part Properties dialog: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/staff-part-properties -Original Message- From: guy_and_liz Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context dialog. There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move the cursor and click a few times to get the one with this option. Use the dialog's Edit String Data (near the bottom) to add strings and define their pitches (you can also change the pitches for the first six from their defaults). Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:17 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument list. When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" filed under "early music". Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff. Edit as usual, but you get letters. As I said, more than 6 courses doesn't seem to be possible. If you find out how to add diapasons, please let me know. On 25.03.20 08:40, Wim Loos wrote: Daar Tristan, I'm using Musescore for 'normal' notes and bars. � I wonder of jou know where I can find a manual to use the program to create a french tablature. Thanks in advance, best regards, Wim Loos Op wo 25 mrt. 2020 06:54 schreef Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>: For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is also free. However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses. Editing is quite easy. On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: > � � �I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My > � � �only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as > � � �would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem > � � �twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. > � � �Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They > � � �are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way > � � �of computer power. > � � �One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you > � � �don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one > � � �onto it. I'd be lost without it. > � � �Sean > > � � �On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1][2]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> > � � �wrote: > > � � � �Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software > � � � �for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early > � � � �Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano > � � � �in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, > � � � �printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) > � � � �is the look and function of the font used for the letters when > � � � �notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my > � � � �computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each > � � � �other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend > � � � �recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a > � � � �Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a > � � � �recommendation? > � � � �Craig Wiggins > � � � �Durham, NC > � � � �To get on or off this list see list information at > � � � �[2][3]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05c3a472c86545592ee008d7d0d9c6ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63720750606496106
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Just in case it wasn't clear, I'm talking about MuseScore, not Finale. Also, here's the relevant online help URL for the Staff/Part Properties dialog: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/staff-part-properties -Original Message- From: guy_and_liz Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context dialog. There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move the cursor and click a few times to get the one with this option. Use the dialog's Edit String Data (near the bottom) to add strings and define their pitches (you can also change the pitches for the first six from their defaults). Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:17 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument list. When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" filed under "early music". Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff. Edit as usual, but you get letters. As I said, more than 6 courses doesn't seem to be possible. If you find out how to add diapasons, please let me know. On 25.03.20 08:40, Wim Loos wrote: Daar Tristan, I'm using Musescore for 'normal' notes and bars. � I wonder of jou know where I can find a manual to use the program to create a french tablature. Thanks in advance, best regards, Wim Loos Op wo 25 mrt. 2020 06:54 schreef Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>: For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is also free. However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses. Editing is quite easy. On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: > � � �I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My > � � �only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as > � � �would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem > � � �twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. > � � �Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They > � � �are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way > � � �of computer power. > � � �One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you > � � �don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one > � � �onto it. I'd be lost without it. > � � �Sean > > � � �On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1][2]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> > � � �wrote: > > � � � �Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software > � � � �for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early > � � � �Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano > � � � �in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, > � � � �printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) > � � � �is the look and function of the font used for the letters when > � � � �notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my > � � � �computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each > � � � �other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend > � � � �recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a > � � � �Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a > � � � �recommendation? > � � � �Craig Wiggins > � � � �Durham, NC > � � � �To get on or off this list see list information at > � � � �[2][3]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05c3a472c86545592ee008d7d0d9c6ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207506064961061&sdata=7P6EZSl81f9nuAHDg%2BOBlbBeFH83XEVWkQmXesWHaIk%3D&reserved=0 > > � � �-- > > References > > � � �1. mailto:[4]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com > � � �2. [5]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05c3a472c86545592ee008d7d0d9c6ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aa
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context dialog. There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move the cursor and click a few times to get the one with this option. Use the dialog's Edit String Data (near the bottom) to add strings and define their pitches (you can also change the pitches for the first six from their defaults). Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:17 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument list. When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" filed under "early music". Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff. Edit as usual, but you get letters. As I said, more than 6 courses doesn't seem to be possible. If you find out how to add diapasons, please let me know. On 25.03.20 08:40, Wim Loos wrote: Daar Tristan, I'm using Musescore for 'normal' notes and bars. � I wonder of jou know where I can find a manual to use the program to create a french tablature. Thanks in advance, best regards, Wim Loos Op wo 25 mrt. 2020 06:54 schreef Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>: For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is also free. However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses. Editing is quite easy. On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: > � � �I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My > � � �only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as > � � �would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem > � � �twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. > � � �Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They > � � �are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way > � � �of computer power. > � � �One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you > � � �don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one > � � �onto it. I'd be lost without it. > � � �Sean > > � � �On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1][2]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> > � � �wrote: > > � � � �Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software > � � � �for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early > � � � �Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano > � � � �in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, > � � � �printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) > � � � �is the look and function of the font used for the letters when > � � � �notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my > � � � �computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each > � � � �other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend > � � � �recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a > � � � �Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a > � � � �recommendation? > � � � �Craig Wiggins > � � � �Durham, NC > � � � �To get on or off this list see list information at > � � � �[2][3]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05c3a472c86545592ee008d7d0d9c6ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207506064961061&sdata=7P6EZSl81f9nuAHDg%2BOBlbBeFH83XEVWkQmXesWHaIk%3D&reserved=0 > > � � �-- > > References > > � � �1. mailto:[4]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com > � � �2. [5]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05c3a472c86545592ee008d7d0d9c6ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207506064961061&sdata=7P6EZSl81f9nuAHDg%2BOBlbBeFH83XEVWkQmXesWHaIk%3D&reserved=0 > -- References 1. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de 2. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 3. https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05c3a472c86545592ee008d7d0d9c6ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument list. When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" filed under "early music". Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff. Edit as usual, but you get letters. As I said, more than 6 courses doesn't seem to be possible. If you find out how to add diapasons, please let me know. On 25.03.20 08:40, Wim Loos wrote: Daar Tristan, I'm using Musescore for 'normal' notes and bars. � I wonder of jou know where I can find a manual to use the program to create a french tablature. Thanks in advance, best regards, Wim Loos Op wo 25 mrt. 2020 06:54 schreef Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>: For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is also free. However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses. Editing is quite easy. On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: > � � �I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My > � � �only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as > � � �would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem > � � �twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. > � � �Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They > � � �are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way > � � �of computer power. > � � �One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you > � � �don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one > � � �onto it. I'd be lost without it. > � � �Sean > > � � �On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1][2]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> > � � �wrote: > > � � � �Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software > � � � �for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early > � � � �Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano > � � � �in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, > � � � �printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) > � � � �is the look and function of the font used for the letters when > � � � �notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my > � � � �computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each > � � � �other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend > � � � �recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a > � � � �Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a > � � � �recommendation? > � � � �Craig Wiggins > � � � �Durham, NC > � � � �To get on or off this list see list information at > � � � �[2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > � � �-- > > References > > � � �1. mailto:[4]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com > � � �2. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- References 1. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de 2. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is also free. However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses. Editing is quite easy. On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way of computer power. One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one onto it. I'd be lost without it. Sean On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way of computer power. One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one onto it. I'd be lost without it. Sean On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
I use Finale. For French tab font I use Times Roman bold italics. Size 11. I place the ciphers through the tab lines, not in between. I check the box to not let tab lines cross the tab ciphers. David On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 02:36, Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com *** -- References 1. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Yes, you can use Fronimo on a mac. You may want to poke through the
archives to find out how to do it.
I seem to remember that there was something like emulating a pc
environment for Fronimo on your mac.
I am by no means a computer expert or something, but members of the
list talked about that issue several times.
Mathias
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Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software
for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early
Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in
D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing,
printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is
the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in
the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none
seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or
more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo,
but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively.
Does anyone here have a recommendation?
Craig Wiggins
Durham, NC
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