[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
I'm sure many others, too! PD -- Initial Header --- From : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To : chriswi...@yahoo.com,Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc : Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date : Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:56:42 -0500 Subject : [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection I'm sure Nigel would disagree. RT - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:47 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 2:05 AM Oh dear - looks like that includes most of us. Monica - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
To paraphrase Alexander King, Never trust a naked lute player. Gary - Original Message - From: Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk To: chriswilke chriswi...@yahoo.com; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:07 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris oops... what is this kind of sad wisdom about? Who is speaking here and why? From which part of the soul to which one? To my experience each of these activities may smoothly and happily blend into the other... :-) F -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2680 - Release Date: 02/10/10 11:38:00
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
your surely right - if both activities should happen at the same time ... Thomas chriswi...@yahoo.com schrieb: Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 2:05 AM Oh dear - looks like that includes most of us. Monica - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
your surely right - if both activities should happen at the same time ... There MUST have been some modern Monteverdi staging implying sex in a chinese helicopter.. Thomas chriswi...@yahoo.com schrieb: Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 2:05 AM Oh dear - looks like that includes most of us. Monica - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2685 - Release Date: 02/13/10 08:43:00
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris If we are seen to enjoy such wasteful pursuits, the government would put a tax on it! 'Tis but folly... I prefer to remain oblivious. Ron (UK) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
wonders what this would mean to the role of the government on earth ... *curious* Thomas Ron Fletcher schrieb: If we are seen to enjoy such wasteful pursuits, the government would put a tax on it! 'Tis but folly... I prefer to remain oblivious. Ron (UK) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 2:05 AM Oh dear - looks like that includes most of us. Monica - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Speak for yourself! (Sadly, just kidding.) Eugene - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:49 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 2:05 AM Oh dear - looks like that includes most of us. Monica - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
I'm sure Nigel would disagree. RT - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:47 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 2:05 AM Oh dear - looks like that includes most of us. Monica - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris oops... what is this kind of sad wisdom about? Who is speaking here and why? From which part of the soul to which one? To my experience each of these activities may smoothly and happily blend into the other... :-) F -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Franz, --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk wrote: From: Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: chriswilke chriswi...@yahoo.com, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 9:07 AM Fortunately for the soul, playing early music and being sexually active are often entirely mutually exclusive pursuits. ;-) Chris oops... what is this kind of sad wisdom about? Who is speaking here and why? From which part of the soul to which one? To my experience each of these activities may smoothly and happily blend into the other... :-) Of course they may. Sadly, there's usually no member of the opposite sex involved with either activity. (I'm speaking entirely tongue-in-cheek here, addressing the stereotype of the male lutenist who is awkward around women. This is partly inspired by the real-life experiences of my friend who plays lute and is also a Star Trek fanatic. PLEASE, no one get insulted! I have nothing against Star Trek.) Chris F -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
-Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Oh dear - looks like that includes most of us. Monica - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time that they are oblivious. This underscores the folly of such wasteful pursuits such as music and sex. Chris --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu wrote: From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM Good question, Monica. And I'd say, from the expression on her face and her body language, that the outcome won't necessarily be joyful for the guy, at least not for long. Depends what she does next with the cake dish. Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/11/2010 10:37 AM You mean the guy with his arms round the lady on the left. I wonder why she is holding up the cake dish. Does this have some obscure subtext? Monica - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu To: 'Christopher Stetson' cstet...@smith.edu; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: 'Lutelist' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Stetson Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:03 PM To: Monica Hall Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Personally, I don't know, but it does look like an especially Joyful Reunion for one lecher in particular. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Well - yes. Wire strung instruments are a law unto themselves. My rehearsals don't look anything like that. Much more sedate. Monica - Original Message - From: [1]Christopher Stetson To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Lutelist Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:02 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [4]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. That isn't what your rehearsals look like, Monica? BTW, from the size, fretting, and style of head, I'd say it's more likely an unusually shaped cittern. Looks like she's using a plectrum, too. But, when you get wired, terminology gets confusing. I came THIS CLOSE to making an instrument based on that painting a long time ago. Best to all, Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/6/2010 3:16 PM There is a rather nice picture of a lady playing what looks like a bandora - The Joyful reunion by Jan Massys. Ladies playing these instruments are definitely photogenic. It's a pity I can't post a picture of myself in a similar pose! Monica - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection There is another lady guitarist in the collection (Musical scene: La Guitare 2003.2487) in which the engraver got it right. Or is the second one in fact a lefty?? Leonard On 2/6/10 6:43 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: [5]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: [6]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00 -- References 1. mailto:cstet...@smith.edu 2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html 5. http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=eca 6. http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=eca 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Maybe if you brought the wine? Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/8/2010 12:03 PM Well - yes. Wire strung instruments are a law unto themselves. My rehearsals don't look anything like that. Much more sedate. Monica - Original Message - From: [1]Christopher Stetson To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Lutelist Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:02 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [4]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. That isn't what your rehearsals look like, Monica? BTW, from the size, fretting, and style of head, I'd say it's more likely an unusually shaped cittern. Looks like she's using a plectrum, too. But, when you get wired, terminology gets confusing. I came THIS CLOSE to making an instrument based on that painting a long time ago. Best to all, Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/6/2010 3:16 PM There is a rather nice picture of a lady playing what looks like a bandora - The Joyful reunion by Jan Massys. Ladies playing these instruments are definitely photogenic. It's a pity I can't post a picture of myself in a similar pose! Monica - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection There is another lady guitarist in the collection (Musical scene: La Guitare 2003.2487) in which the engraver got it right. Or is the second one in fact a lefty?? Leonard On 2/6/10 6:43 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: [5]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: [6]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Possibly.. Monica - Original Message - From: Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 5:42 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Maybe if you brought the wine? Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/8/2010 12:03 PM Well - yes. Wire strung instruments are a law unto themselves. My rehearsals don't look anything like that. Much more sedate. Monica - Original Message - From: [1]Christopher Stetson To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Lutelist Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:02 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Is this the one: [4]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. That isn't what your rehearsals look like, Monica? BTW, from the size, fretting, and style of head, I'd say it's more likely an unusually shaped cittern. Looks like she's using a plectrum, too. But, when you get wired, terminology gets confusing. I came THIS CLOSE to making an instrument based on that painting a long time ago. Best to all, Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/6/2010 3:16 PM There is a rather nice picture of a lady playing what looks like a bandora - The Joyful reunion by Jan Massys. Ladies playing these instruments are definitely photogenic. It's a pity I can't post a picture of myself in a similar pose! Monica - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection There is another lady guitarist in the collection (Musical scene: La Guitare 2003.2487) in which the engraver got it right. Or is the second one in fact a lefty?? Leonard On 2/6/10 6:43 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: [5]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: [6]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Yes - the first course is usually single, the other four courses double. Mine has ten pegs but I don't use one. Monica - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:12 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecat aloguerefirn=2009 Interesting--an early left-handed guitar! Though there are 10 pegs, it appears that the first course is single, the rest double. Is this typical? Regards, Leonard Williams On 2/5/10 4:32 PM, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=ecat aloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecat aloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
And look at that picking hand position! One website gave this information: Mary 'Moll' Davis, actress and mistress of Charles II, whose child Mary Tudor (1673-1726), married the Second Earl of Derwentwater. morgan - Original Message - From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Hre's a link to the original painting; the lady is right-handed there... So Monica was probably right and the left-handedness came from the engraving technique, as it is often the case. Sorry about that lefties, I'm one of yours ! http://www.bridgemanartondemand.com/art/106617/Portrait_of_Mrs_Moll_Davies_mistress_of_Charles_II_flowers Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 06-02-2010, 13:53:46 == And look at that picking hand position! One website gave this information: Mary 'Moll' Davis, actress and mistress of Charles II, whose child Mary Tudor (1673-1726), married the Second Earl of Derwentwater. morgan - Original Message - From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
There is another lady guitarist in the collection (Musical scene: La Guitare 2003.2487) in which the engraver got it right. Or is the second one in fact a lefty?? Leonard On 2/6/10 6:43 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=eca taloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=eca taloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00
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Yes - I thought the picture looked familiar too. Monica - Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr To: Lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection Hre's a link to the original painting; the lady is right-handed there... So Monica was probably right and the left-handedness came from the engraving technique, as it is often the case. Sorry about that lefties, I'm one of yours ! http://www.bridgemanartondemand.com/art/106617/Portrait_of_Mrs_Moll_Davies_mistress_of_Charles_II_flowers Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 06-02-2010, 13:53:46 == And look at that picking hand position! One website gave this information: Mary 'Moll' Davis, actress and mistress of Charles II, whose child Mary Tudor (1673-1726), married the Second Earl of Derwentwater. morgan - Original Message - From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. N¶®¶-±ST¢?ÿÁj¢yÁ-iYu
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
There is a rather nice picture of a lady playing what looks like a bandora - The Joyful reunion by Jan Massys. Ladies playing these instruments are definitely photogenic. It's a pity I can't post a picture of myself in a similar pose! Monica - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection There is another lady guitarist in the collection (Musical scene: La Guitare 2003.2487) in which the engraver got it right. Or is the second one in fact a lefty?? Leonard On 2/6/10 6:43 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=eca taloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=eca taloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00
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Is this the one: [1]http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html ? Yes, they look like a fun group. That isn't what your rehearsals look like, Monica? BTW, from the size, fretting, and style of head, I'd say it's more likely an unusually shaped cittern. Looks like she's using a plectrum, too. But, when you get wired, terminology gets confusing. I came THIS CLOSE to making an instrument based on that painting a long time ago. Best to all, Chris. Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2/6/2010 3:16 PM There is a rather nice picture of a lady playing what looks like a bandora - The Joyful reunion by Jan Massys. Ladies playing these instruments are definitely photogenic. It's a pity I can't post a picture of myself in a similar pose! Monica - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection There is another lady guitarist in the collection (Musical scene: La Guitare 2003.2487) in which the engraver got it right. Or is the second one in fact a lefty?? Leonard On 2/6/10 6:43 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The lady playing the guitar is printed from an engraving and the engraver may have got her the wrong way round! Monica - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Robert Spencer Collection Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: [2]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: [3]http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023ref table=eca taloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00 -- References 1. http://www.klassiskgitar.net/massys-joyful.html 2. http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=eca 3. http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=eca 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00
[LUTE] Re: Robert Spencer Collection
or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecat aloguerefirn=2009 Interesting--an early left-handed guitar! Though there are 10 pegs, it appears that the first course is single, the rest double. Is this typical? Regards, Leonard Williams On 2/5/10 4:32 PM, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: Monica Hall wrote: At least some of Bob Spencer's collection is now in the library of the Royal Academy of Music in London. You can access their catalogue on line from the RAM site. MOnica Really interesting. Had a quick look. Some pics of some of his instruments. Lots of fascinating engravings: like this good-looking lute player: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1603reftable=ecat aloguerefirn=2099 or this woman playing a guitar: http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1023reftable=ecat aloguerefirn=2009 and more. Stuart - Original Message - From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bohush manuscript? Dear Luca RISM lists this, which might be what you mean: Woodfor Green, privatbibliothek Robert Spencer Ms. ohne Signature (I) It's a MS that used to be in the private library of Robert Spencer (where did Bob's books go, Royal College?), before that in the private libary of A. Cortot. French tab, 6 lines, for lute, and 5 lines for Mandora. Ca 1720. It has a stamp on folio 1r: Bohush Sorry, no help, really. David On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I am looking for more information about the Bohush manuscript. In the 32 Easy Pieces for Baroque Lute, edited by Anthony Bailes for Tree Edition a number of pieces have been included from a Bohush manuscript, without any further detail. The Chaconne is beautiful. Any body out there knowing more about this manuscript? Thank you in advance to you all, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 07:35:00
