[LUTE] Re: Willie Loman of the 17th century?
uh ... oh ... sorry, no! He means: During the time I was writing this
book I was dead drunk, :)
All best,
Joachim
Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Joachim wrote...
Als ich han dies buech geschriben /
Bin ich schier im fasse blieben
('While I was writing this book, deeply into the barrel I did look' or -
more close to the words -: 'I nearly ended in the barrel').
Ah, now I understand it to be...
Though I have written this book, I was *scraping-the-barrel.
*An English term often used when comedians are running out of gags!
So, 'Writing bravely'...Is this like the American term, Publish and be
damned (of the consequences)?
Johann Wolff Gehard I am named
Nurnburg is my fatherland
Paper is my speciality
Therewith I write intently
..and now it doesn't quite rhyme!
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Johann Wolff Gehard bin ich genand /
In Nürnberg ist mein Vaterlandt /
Pappier ist mein Acker /
Damit schreib ich Wacker
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[LUTE] Re: Willie Loman of the 17th century?
Dear Arthur,
he is not so much bragging about his work (although wacker schreiben
means to write bravely) but identifying himself as the writer of a
piece, a section of pieces or even of the whole book if his words are to
be found at the end of it. The comparision of one's work with what the
ploughman and the sower do was very common (and is: etwas beackern
means to work on something and ackern means to slog away; the
original connotations are lost to most of us today, I think, and both
german expressions are colloquial) so the somewhat oblique (is this the
right word?) image of someone writing with a piece of farmland will not
have seemed so queer to Gerhard's contemporaries.
Nevertheless I prefer late medieval writer's verse like:
Als ich han dies buech geschriben /
Bin ich schier im fasse blieben
('While I was writing this book, deeply into the barrel I did look' or -
more close to the words -: 'I nearly ended in the barrel').
All best,
Joachim
Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Johann Wolff Gehard bin ich genand /
In Nürnberg ist mein Vaterlandt /
Pappier ist mein Acker /
Damit schreib ich Wacker
=
Not very good verse. Is he bragging about his work?
What does Wacker mean? Paper is my specialty (my
field) with which I write ???.
It's on the titlepage of a 17th century violin tablature
in Nuremberg, MS 271.
==ajn
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[LUTE] [Re: Willie Loman of the 17th century? and Claire Antonini]
Dear Arthur,
I would say, 'Acker' is the field where he works, in the literal sense
of ploughin, like a farmer, going back and forth on it, but with the pen
instead of the plough.
'Wacker', in the sense of 'tuechtig', 'kraeftig'. Is it 'tough' in
english ('tuechtig' and 'tough' are not that far away...)? If so, the
rime of plough and tough is there, available...
'Wacker' is also 'anstaendig' or 'brav', perhaps 'decent' in english.
Saludos from Barcelona,
Manolo Laguillo
PS Yesterday arrived the new CD of french XVII music, played by Claire
Antonini (a SFL (French Lute Society) publication). Besides the usual
repertoire, there are some new pieces on it, notably a Sarabande by
Champion de Chambonnières.
Arthur Ness wrote:
Johann Wolff Gehard bin ich genand /
In Nürnberg ist mein Vaterlandt /
Pappier ist mein Acker /
Damit schreib ich Wacker
Not very good verse. Is he bragging about his work?
What does Wacker mean? Paper is my specialty (my
field) with which I write ???.
It's on the titlepage of a 17th century violin tablature
in Nuremberg, MS 271.
==ajn
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[LUTE] Re: Willie Loman of the 17th century?
Or was he perhaps referring to a beer barrel? Speaking as someone who
recently finished a book, a barrel of beer looks pretty inviting by the time
you've made the final handoff to the publisher.
Guy
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From: Ron Fletcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 1:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Willie Loman of the 17th century?
Joachim wrote...
Als ich han dies buech geschriben /
Bin ich schier im fasse blieben
('While I was writing this book, deeply into the barrel I did look' or -
more close to the words -: 'I nearly ended in the barrel').
Ah, now I understand it to be...
Though I have written this book, I was *scraping-the-barrel.
*An English term often used when comedians are running out of gags!
So, 'Writing bravely'...Is this like the American term, Publish and be
damned (of the consequences)?
Johann Wolff Gehard I am named
Nurnburg is my fatherland
Paper is my speciality
Therewith I write intently
.and now it doesn't quite rhyme!
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Johann Wolff Gehard bin ich genand /
In Nürnberg ist mein Vaterlandt /
Pappier ist mein Acker /
Damit schreib ich Wacker
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[LUTE] Re: Willie Loman of the 17th century?
Arthur, With all due respect to your theatrical namesake, why Willie Loman? David R On Apr 12, 2007, at 9:04 PM, Arthur Ness wrote: Johann Wolff Gehard bin ich genand / In Nurnberg ist mein Vaterlandt / Pappier ist mein Acker / Damit schreib ich Wacker Not very good verse. Is he bragging about his work? What does Wacker mean? Paper is my specialty (my field) with which I write ???. It's on the titlepage of a 17th century violin tablature in Nuremberg, MS 271. ==ajn To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
