[LUTE] Re: de visee kellner
Apart from the musical differences Bonavita's playing position certainly looks healthier. Nomen est omen :-) Regards, Stephan Am 21 Apr 2007 um 15:37 hat Mathias Rösel geschrieben: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I thought both Lislevand's and Bonavitas' performances were nice. Notwithstanding everybody's personal preferences, I especially disliked Lislevand's stopping of basses so as to stress the notes. Anyway, his playing is at times very guitaristic, in this video (okay, one might want to discuss Bonavita's strumming, also). What I enjoyed in Bonavita's interpretation were the notes inegales, his tastefully ornamenting almost every note and his raising of passion in the last sections. Had he chosen gut bass strings and additionally put his right hand closer to the bridge, I wouldn't hesitate to declare him the winner :) -- Mathias --- Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davide Bioccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi to all... Here's a nice (but short) link to Lislevand playing De Visée: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhKuL75sLfQ If Rafael Bonavita http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6UKk5shfIAmode=relatedsearch= had used Lislevand's stringing instead of those awefully roaring wound bass strings, not only his interpretation but also his performance would have been superior, IMO. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: de visee kellner
Davide Bioccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all... Here's a nice (but short) link to Lislevand playing De Visée: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhKuL75sLfQ Thank you for this. Leslevand is a truly remarkable player. It's always great to hear somebody who's got enough technical skills to play such music and ... be in full control of it (rather than the other way round as is often the case). His 2003 'la belle homicide' CD on 11-course lute is equally impressive. Alexander To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: de visee kellner
Mathias, I thought both Lislevand's and Bonavitas' performances were nice. Chris --- Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davide Bioccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi to all... Here's a nice (but short) link to Lislevand playing De Visée: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhKuL75sLfQ If Rafael Bonavita http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6UKk5shfIAmode=relatedsearch= had used Lislevand's stringing instead of those awefully roaring wound bass strings, not only his interpretation but also his performance would have been superior, IMO. -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Re: de visee kellner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I thought both Lislevand's and Bonavitas' performances were nice. Notwithstanding everybody's personal preferences, I especially disliked Lislevand's stopping of basses so as to stress the notes. Anyway, his playing is at times very guitaristic, in this video (okay, one might want to discuss Bonavita's strumming, also). What I enjoyed in Bonavita's interpretation were the notes inegales, his tastefully ornamenting almost every note and his raising of passion in the last sections. Had he chosen gut bass strings and additionally put his right hand closer to the bridge, I wouldn't hesitate to declare him the winner :) -- Mathias --- Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davide Bioccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi to all... Here's a nice (but short) link to Lislevand playing De Visée: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhKuL75sLfQ If Rafael Bonavita http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6UKk5shfIAmode=relatedsearch= had used Lislevand's stringing instead of those awefully roaring wound bass strings, not only his interpretation but also his performance would have been superior, IMO. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: de visee kellner
On Apr 21, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Mathias R=F6sel wrote: ...I especially disliked Lislevand's stopping of basses so as to stress the notes. Anyway, his playing is at times very guitaristic The stopping of the basses is something I tend to associate with pianists when they play Baroque music (whatever Baroque technique may be on a piano, I imagine the less said the better), but I found it startling on the theorbo because I didn't expect it. I didn't particularly think RL's playing was guitaristic, except perhaps in his interpretation. In fact, I was thinking his right-hand was almost thumb-under. David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rastallmusic.com -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: de visee kellner
Mathias, Bonavita also stop the basses at the same place Lislevand does. They are both great... Notwithstanding everybody's personal preferences, I especially disliked Lislevand's stopping of basses so as to stress the notes. Anyway, his playing is at times very guitaristic, in this video (okay, one might want to discuss Bonavita's strumming, also). What I enjoyed in Bonavita's interpretation were the notes inegales, his tastefully ornamenting almost every note and his raising of passion in the last sections. Agree. Had he chosen gut bass strings and additionally put his right hand closer to the bridge, I wouldn't hesitate to declare him the winner :) This is not a competition I hope... -- Mathias --- Mathias R=F6sel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davide Bioccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi to all... Here's a nice (but short) link to Lislevand playing De Visee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhKuL75sLfQ If Rafael Bonavita http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6UKk5shfIAmode=relatedsearch had used Lislevand's stringing instead of those awefully roaring wound bass strings, not only his interpretation but also his performance would have been superior, IMO. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: de visee kellner
--- Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notwithstanding everybody's personal preferences, I especially disliked Lislevand's stopping of basses so as to stress the notes. Not my preference, either. Hoppy Smith does this sort of thing all over his de Visee album and it seems like lots of folks really enjoy that recording. Sounds too disruptive to me, but I love the album anyway. Had he chosen gut bass strings and additionally put his right hand closer to the bridge, I don't agree about the gut strings, but I will agree with you on the right hand position. (I think most players could move toward the bridge.) This is hard to do on such a large instrument as he's using, however. Funny, though, far from finding the basses thundering as you described in a previous post, his sound was a bit too gentle for my taste. On the other hand, I don't think it would have sounded the same way to a listener in the room (as opposed to the mic being right in front of him). I wouldn't hesitate to declare him the winner :) Don't know - there were things I liked about both. Lislevand approached the piece as a straight-ahead dance while the other performance was more rhapsodic. Both are worthy, but I really like to hear it somewhere between the two. Fortunately, neither one was competing on Lute-God Idol. Chris Mathias --- Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davide Bioccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi to all... Here's a nice (but short) link to Lislevand playing De Visée: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhKuL75sLfQ If Rafael Bonavita http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6UKk5shfIAmode=relatedsearch= had used Lislevand's stringing instead of those awefully roaring wound bass strings, not only his interpretation but also his performance would have been superior, IMO. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
