Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Stephan Witt wrote: PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable. Hi Christian, if the only thing you need is an OK from me... Here you are. You can publish them if you like. iirc the problem was the location :) That, and some of the participants not wanting their faces on the web. IIRC. /C pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström schrieb: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/... is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ? i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere on the server. I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it here: http://www.lyx.org/misc/ But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all??? /Christian PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable. Hi Christian, if the only thing you need is an OK from me... Here you are. You can publish them if you like. Stephan ---
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Stephan Witt wrote: PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable. Hi Christian, if the only thing you need is an OK from me... Here you are. You can publish them if you like. iirc the problem was the location :) pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes: I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc Would somebody object if I changed that to generate the output to the build directory? JMarc
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes: I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc Would somebody object if I changed that to generate the output to the build directory? Certainly not me. Is it difficult to set up configure so that you can give it a flag that species this particular output directory? I could then invoke ./configure on the server using this flag so that the HTML output is immediately sent to the right place in the web structure. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes: Is it difficult to set up configure so that you can give it a flag that species this particular output directory? I could then invoke ./configure on the server using this flag so that the HTML output is immediately sent to the right place in the web structure. It seems a bit overengineered to me... JMarc
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
* 1.6.x it would be nice * Trunk (SVN) Only trunk I'd say. this is the one -- Lgb
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/... is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ? pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/... is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ? i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere on the server. pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/... is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ? i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere on the server. I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it here: http://www.lyx.org/misc/ But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all??? /Christian PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström wrote: is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ? i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere on the server. I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it here: http://www.lyx.org/misc/ thanks But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all??? i just mean that when i commit something into svn , it would be immediately seen in www, so i dont need to ask for svn up on your part for every each commit. (either by ln -s alchemy or post commit hook). PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable. i thought that the fact that we dont link on them directly from wiki or web is paranoid enough for our purposes. pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 02:51, Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). Compilation worked. Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere in lyx-devel? Hmm all that stuff used to be in the repo... has it been removed? -- Lgb
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). dot? needed for generation of ancestry graph visualization (of course doxygen will run even without, but they wont be produced..) Even so, what do you think of putting the doxygen related stuff into SVN? i'm not sure what you mean. we already have doxygen stuff in the tree. just look into sourcedoc directory. or you are talking about _output_- that won't be good idea of course. it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? this is indeed possibility, thanks for idea. pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Lars Gullik Bj??nnes wrote: Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere in lyx-devel? Hmm all that stuff used to be in the repo... has it been removed? of course not. pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: dot? needed for generation of ancestry graph visualization (of course doxygen will run even without, but they wont be produced..) It was my mistake, I didn't have doxygen installed when building LyX. I've now built the documentation with doxygen, the only tricky thing was figuring out to install graphviz in order to get 'dot'. Guess I should have read some README somewhere? Onething I did notice though. Here's the directory structure I'm using for building: ~/lyx/ lyx-devel/ - working directory checked out from SVN build/ - directory where build takes place I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc So it seems you're hardcoding the output to appear in the directory checked out from SVN. Is there a reason for this? The size of the generated html (i.e. the directory html/) is about 137 MB. Do we need generated documentation for more than just the latest SVN? If so, are these the versions we are interested in? * 1.5.x * 1.6.x * Trunk (SVN) Or is it enough with just the stuff from trunk? Location of the generated documenation...? Does this belong under wiki.lyx.org or www.lyx.org? Do you have an idea for the URI? For now I've placed the output here: http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/ Right now it takes a manual action to generate the output and place it in this location. cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström wrote: figuring out to install graphviz in order to get 'dot'. Guess I should have read some README somewhere? no :) Onething I did notice though. Here's the directory structure I'm using for building: ~/lyx/ lyx-devel/ - working directory checked out from SVN build/ - directory where build takes place I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc you can replace it by your setup. svn update won't touch your change. So it seems you're hardcoding the output to appear in the directory checked out from SVN. Is there a reason for this? dunno Do we need generated documentation for more than just the latest SVN? If so, are these the versions we are interested in? * 1.5.x no * 1.6.x it would be nice * Trunk (SVN) this is the one Location of the generated documenation...? Does this belong under wiki.lyx.org or www.lyx.org? Do you have an idea for the URI? no opinion For now I've placed the output here: http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/ Right now it takes a manual action to generate the output and place it in this location. replacing once, say, month is enough.. pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström wrote: Hi, Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g. www.lyx.org/~joost So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we want to keep, and if it still should be on the web. i have already made some checking and backups before aussie death - there are meetings pics, lyx archeology, doxygen docs, some bits for wiki pakes eg lyx geography files and so. i would setup those things back, but Lars refused to give me login access so either move it to some third party server or let it die. pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: www.lyx.org/~joost So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we want to keep, and if it still should be on the web. i have already made some checking and backups before aussie death - there are meetings pics, lyx archeology, doxygen docs, some bits for wiki pakes eg lyx geography files and so. i would setup those things back, but Lars refused to give me login access so either move it to some third party server or let it die. Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server? Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). The bit about geography I didn't understand. If you tell me what to do, I can do it. regards, /Christian PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting the number of users on the server. Guess it depends on how we feel it should be used, and it's probably related to us not (?) paying for it. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server? i would like to have control over it because of actualizations. Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) If you tell me what to do, I can do it. i can provide the backups privately if you want. PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting the number of users on the server. i understand that its nonsense to provide account for any dev if the only usage is commiting to svn. on the other hand i dont see why forbid those very few people which contributed other stuff outside the scope of the official web. i also hope there is somebody except Lars with admin privileges, once he hides again somewhere in norwegian forests :) pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderström wrote: Hi, Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g. www.lyx.org/~joost To see what youu have, please use this instaed http://62.70.27.115/~bpeng/ where the IP number was retrieved using 'host aussie'. If you try aussie.lyx.org/~bpeng, you're just redirected to www.lyx.org. /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server? i would like to have control over it because of actualizations. I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? If you tell me what to do, I can do it. i can provide the backups privately if you want. ? We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well? PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting the number of users on the server. i understand that its nonsense to provide account for any dev if the only usage is commiting to svn. on the other hand i dont see why forbid those very few people which contributed other stuff outside the scope of the official web. i also hope there is somebody except Lars with admin privileges, once he hides again somewhere in norwegian forests :) I have 'sudo', so unless something happens to Scandiavia we're not completely off:-) You have a good point though, and I've been thinking of checking with Lars if perhaps someone like Jean-Marc shouldn't have access (he was root on aussie). Especially as Lars knows nothing of the web/wiki stuff. Anyway, I guess this is stuff to be discussed a bit further down the road, once the most urgen stuff (issue tracking) is working. regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? ? We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well? ssh kicked me out and i was lazy to investigate further... pavel
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). dot? Never mind. For fun, I tried checking it out and it's trying to build now. Debian systems are _so_ easy to use :-) Even so, what do you think of putting the doxygen related stuff into SVN? Then you fiddle and set up the stuff, and then I check it out on the server and we can run the update there? Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? ? We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well? ssh kicked me out and i was lazy to investigate further... Please try again, I can log in still? /Christian pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). Compilation worked. Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere in lyx-devel? /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Hi, Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g. www.lyx.org/~joost So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we want to keep, and if it still should be on the web. cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44