Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-22 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Stephan Witt wrote:

PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for
others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable.


Hi Christian,

if the only thing you need is an OK from me... Here you are.
You can publish them if you like.


iirc the problem was the location :)


That, and some of the participants not wanting their faces on the web. 
IIRC.


/C


pavel




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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-21 Thread Stephan Witt

Christian Ridderström schrieb:

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Pavel Sanda wrote:

Christian Ridderström wrote:
Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I 
can just

update the checked out tree on the server?


i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure
say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/...
is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X
goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ?


i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere
on the server.


I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it 
here:

http://www.lyx.org/misc/

But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all???

/Christian

PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for 
others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable.


Hi Christian,

if the only thing you need is an OK from me... Here you are.
You can publish them if you like.

Stephan
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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-21 Thread Pavel Sanda
Stephan Witt wrote:
 PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for 
 others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable.

 Hi Christian,

 if the only thing you need is an OK from me... Here you are.
 You can publish them if you like.

iirc the problem was the location :)
pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes:
 I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work
 directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build'
 to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile
 it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded:

 # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute)
 # base path where the generated documentation will be put.
 # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location
 # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will
 be # used.

 OUTPUT_DIRECTORY   = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc

Would somebody object if I changed that to generate the output to the
build directory?

JMarc


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes:

I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work
directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build'
to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile
it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded:

# The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute)
# base path where the generated documentation will be put.
# If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location
# where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will
be # used.

OUTPUT_DIRECTORY   = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc


Would somebody object if I changed that to generate the output to the
build directory?


Certainly not me.

Is it difficult to set up configure so that you can give it a flag that 
species this particular output directory?  I could then invoke 
./configure on the server using this flag so that the HTML output is 
immediately sent to the right place in the web structure.


/Christian

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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes:
 Is it difficult to set up configure so that you can give it a flag
 that species this particular output directory?  I could then invoke
 ./configure on the server using this flag so that the HTML output is
 immediately sent to the right place in the web structure.

It seems a bit overengineered to me...

JMarc


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

  * 1.6.x

 it would be nice

  * Trunk (SVN)


Only trunk I'd say.



 this is the one



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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote:
 Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I can just 
 update the checked out tree on the server?

i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure
say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/...
is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X
goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ?

pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Christian Ridderström wrote:
  Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I can just 
  update the checked out tree on the server?
 
 i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure
 say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/...
 is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X
 goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ?

i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere
on the server.
pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Pavel Sanda wrote:

Christian Ridderström wrote:

Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I can just
update the checked out tree on the server?


i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure
say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/...
is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X
goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ?


i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere
on the server.


I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it 
here:

http://www.lyx.org/misc/

But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all???

/Christian

PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for 
others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable.


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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote:
 is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X
 goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ?

 i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere
 on the server.

 I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it 
 here:
   http://www.lyx.org/misc/

thanks

 But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all???

i just mean that when i commit something into svn , it would be immediately
seen in www, so i dont need to ask for svn up on your part for every each 
commit.
(either by ln -s alchemy or post commit hook).

 PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for 
 others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable.

i thought that the fact that we dont link on them directly from wiki or web
is paranoid enough for our purposes.
pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 02:51, Christian Ridderström 
christian.ridderst...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:

  Christian Ridderström wrote:

 I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily
 re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check
 with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume
 doxygen requires a tree that has been built?)


 hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present
 (qt,dot).


 Compilation worked.


Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere in
 lyx-devel?


Hmm all that stuff used to be in the repo... has it been removed?

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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-01 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:

 Christian Ridderström wrote:
 I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily
 re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check
 with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume
 doxygen requires a tree that has been built?)

 hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present
 (qt,dot).

 dot?

needed for generation of ancestry graph visualization (of course doxygen
will run even without, but they wont be produced..)

 Even so, what do you think of putting the doxygen related stuff into SVN?

i'm not sure what you mean. we already have doxygen stuff in the tree.
just look into sourcedoc directory.
or you are talking about _output_- that won't be good idea of course.

 it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems
 to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :)

 Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I can 
 just
 update the checked out tree on the server?

this is indeed possibility, thanks for idea.

pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-01 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj??nnes wrote:
 Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere in
  lyx-devel?
 
 
 Hmm all that stuff used to be in the repo... has it been removed?

of course not.
pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-01 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Christian Ridderström wrote:
dot?


needed for generation of ancestry graph visualization (of course doxygen 
will run even without, but they wont be produced..)


It was my mistake, I didn't have doxygen installed when building LyX. 
I've now built the documentation with doxygen, the only tricky thing was 
figuring out to install graphviz in order to get 'dot'. Guess I should 
have read some README somewhere?


Onething I did notice though. Here's the directory structure I'm using for 
building:


~/lyx/
lyx-devel/  - working directory checked out from SVN
build/  - directory where build takes place

I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work 
directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to 
start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems 
that the location of the generated output is hardcoded:


# The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute)
# base path where the generated documentation will be put.
# If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location
# where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be 
# used.


OUTPUT_DIRECTORY   = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc


So it seems you're hardcoding the output to appear in the directory 
checked out from SVN. Is there a reason for this?


The size of the generated html (i.e. the directory html/) is about 137 MB.

Do we need generated documentation for more than just the latest SVN?
If so, are these the versions we are interested in?

* 1.5.x
* 1.6.x
* Trunk (SVN)

Or is it enough with just the stuff from trunk?

Location of the generated documenation...?  Does this belong under 
wiki.lyx.org or www.lyx.org? Do you have an idea for the URI?


For now I've placed the output here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/

Right now it takes a manual action to generate the output and place it in 
this location.


cheers
/Christian

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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-04-01 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote:
 figuring out to install graphviz in order to get 'dot'. Guess I should have 
 read some README somewhere?

no :)

 Onething I did notice though. Here's the directory structure I'm using for 
 building:

   ~/lyx/
   lyx-devel/  - working directory checked out from SVN
   build/  - directory where build takes place

 I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work 
 directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to 
 start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems 
 that the location of the generated output is hardcoded:

 # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute)
 # base path where the generated documentation will be put.
 # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location
 # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # 
 used.

 OUTPUT_DIRECTORY   = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc

you can replace it by your setup. svn update won't touch your change.

 So it seems you're hardcoding the output to appear in the directory checked 
 out from SVN. Is there a reason for this?

dunno

 Do we need generated documentation for more than just the latest SVN?
 If so, are these the versions we are interested in?

 * 1.5.x

no

 * 1.6.x

it would be nice

 * Trunk (SVN)

this is the one

 Location of the generated documenation...?  Does this belong under 
 wiki.lyx.org or www.lyx.org? Do you have an idea for the URI?

no opinion

 For now I've placed the output here:

   http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/
 Right now it takes a manual action to generate the output and place it in 
 this location.

replacing once, say, month is enough..
pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote:
 Hi,

 Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means 
 that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, 
 the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g.

   www.lyx.org/~joost

 So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we 
 want to keep, and if it still should be on the web.

i have already made some checking and backups before aussie death - there are
meetings pics, lyx archeology, doxygen docs, some bits for wiki pakes eg lyx
geography files and so. i would setup those things back, but Lars refused to 
give
me login access so either move it to some third party server or let it die.

pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


www.lyx.org/~joost

So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we
want to keep, and if it still should be on the web.


i have already made some checking and backups before aussie death - 
there are meetings pics, lyx archeology, doxygen docs, some bits for 
wiki pakes eg lyx geography files and so. i would setup those things 
back, but Lars refused to give me login access so either move it to some 
third party server or let it die.


Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server?

Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section).

The bit about geography I didn't understand.

If you tell me what to do, I can do it.

regards,
/Christian

PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting 
the number of users on the server. Guess it depends on how we feel it 
should be used, and it's probably related to us not (?) paying for it.


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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote:
 Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server?

i would like to have control over it because of actualizations.

 Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section).

it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki
which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy
into something real :)

 If you tell me what to do, I can do it.

i can provide the backups privately if you want.

 PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting 
 the number of users on the server.

i understand that its nonsense to provide account for any dev if the only usage
is commiting to svn. on the other hand i dont see why forbid those very few
people which contributed other stuff outside the scope of the official web. i 
also
hope there is somebody except Lars with admin privileges, once he hides again
somewhere in norwegian forests :)

pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderström wrote:


Hi,

Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means 
that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, 
the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g.


www.lyx.org/~joost


To see what youu have, please use this instaed

http://62.70.27.115/~bpeng/

where the IP number was retrieved using 'host aussie'. If you try 
aussie.lyx.org/~bpeng, you're just redirected to www.lyx.org.


/C

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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Christian Ridderström wrote:

Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server?


i would like to have control over it because of actualizations.


I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily 
re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check 
with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume 
doxygen requires a tree that has been built?)



Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section).


it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems 
to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :)


Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I can just 
update the checked out tree on the server?




If you tell me what to do, I can do it.


i can provide the backups privately if you want.


?  We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well?

PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about 
limiting the number of users on the server.


i understand that its nonsense to provide account for any dev if the 
only usage is commiting to svn. on the other hand i dont see why forbid 
those very few people which contributed other stuff outside the scope of 
the official web. i also hope there is somebody except Lars with admin 
privileges, once he hides again somewhere in norwegian forests :)


I have 'sudo', so unless something happens to Scandiavia we're not 
completely off:-)


You have a good point though, and I've been thinking of checking with Lars 
if perhaps someone like Jean-Marc shouldn't have access (he was root on 
aussie). Especially as Lars knows nothing of the web/wiki stuff.


Anyway, I guess this is stuff to be discussed a bit further down the road, 
once the most urgen stuff (issue tracking) is working.


regards,
/Christian

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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote:
 I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily 
 re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check 
 with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume 
 doxygen requires a tree that has been built?)

hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present
(qt,dot).

 Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section).

 it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems 
 to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :)

 Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I can just 
 update the checked out tree on the server?

 ?  We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well?

ssh kicked me out and i was lazy to investigate further...
pavel


Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Christian Ridderström wrote:

I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily
re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check
with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume
doxygen requires a tree that has been built?)


hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present
(qt,dot).


dot?

Never mind. For fun, I tried checking it out and it's trying to build 
now. Debian systems are _so_ easy to use :-)


Even so, what do you think of putting the doxygen related stuff into SVN?
Then you fiddle and set up the stuff, and then I check it out on the 
server and we can run the update there?



Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section).


it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems
to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :)


Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user?  Then I can just
update the checked out tree on the server?

?  We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well?


ssh kicked me out and i was lazy to investigate further...


Please try again, I can log in still?

/Christian


pavel




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Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Christian Ridderström wrote:

I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily
re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check
with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume
doxygen requires a tree that has been built?)


hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present 
(qt,dot).


Compilation worked.

Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere 
in lyx-devel?


/C

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