Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
 I have a vague memory of a discussion related to this in Finland, and I
 think we at the time thought more memory (RAM + HDD) would be enough.

 Let's hope that Lars' sees this, he's the one with knowledge about it
 IIRC.

 So the questions would then be:
 * Can we upgrade the memory?

Yes. I have another box hat I don't use anymore (story about water
cooling and leakage) with 1GB RAM that could be installed into Aussie.

 * What kind of RAM does it take?
 * What kind of HDD could we add to it?

IDE

There is a mirror setup currently, but I don't trust it anymore.

I am not sure that we really need more disk, but the partitioning
needs to change. And the disks are old, so they should be changed as
well...

 * Is it practially possible for us to do this? Does anyone have physical
access?

That is the grit of it... I have physical access if I want. Just have
to make an appointment with trolltech. I havent seen the box since
before they changed offices.

-- 
Lgb


Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
> I have a vague memory of a discussion related to this in Finland, and I
> think we at the time thought more memory (RAM + HDD) would be enough.
>
> Let's hope that Lars' sees this, he's the one with knowledge about it
> IIRC.
>
> So the questions would then be:
> * Can we upgrade the memory?

Yes. I have another box hat I don't use anymore (story about water
cooling and leakage) with 1GB RAM that could be installed into Aussie.

> * What kind of RAM does it take?
> * What kind of HDD could we add to it?

IDE

There is a mirror setup currently, but I don't trust it anymore.

I am not sure that we really need more disk, but the partitioning
needs to change. And the disks are old, so they should be changed as
well...

> * Is it practially possible for us to do this? Does anyone have physical
>access?

That is the grit of it... I have physical access if I want. Just have
to make an appointment with trolltech. I havent seen the box since
before they changed offices.

-- 
Lgb


Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, rgheck wrote:


 - buy more memory -
   we need to ask someone at Trolltech to build it into the machine

The discussion elsewhere seems to me to suggest that this is the best 
option. For what we're running, it'd be surprising if an Athlon 2000+ 
wasn't more than adequate. The problem seems to be swapping. In any 
event, it will likely be a lot cheaper to install a bit of memory than 
to get a new server.


Then again, we could also use a bigger /var partition, right?


I have a vague memory of a discussion related to this in Finland, and I 
think we at the time thought more memory (RAM + HDD) would be enough.


Let's hope that Lars' sees this, he's the one with knowledge about it 
IIRC.


So the questions would then be:
* Can we upgrade the memory?
* What kind of RAM does it take?
* What kind of HDD could we add to it?
* Is it practially possible for us to do this? Does anyone have physical
  access?

I guess we need someone with physical access in order to even figure out 
what kind of RAM and HDD we could upgrade it with?. At least I am not able 
to figure out this remotely.


/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:


So the questions would then be:
* Can we upgrade the memory?


Yes. I have another box hat I don't use anymore (story about water 
cooling and leakage) with 1GB RAM that could be installed into Aussie.


Ah... always good with extra information, think I'll stay away from 
water cooling on my next machine then.



* What kind of RAM does it take?
* What kind of HDD could we add to it?


IDE

There is a mirror setup currently, but I don't trust it anymore.

I am not sure that we really need more disk, but the partitioning needs 
to change. And the disks are old, so they should be changed as well...


Size of disks from 'df -h' (only the large parts):

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md21G  313M  644M  33% /
/dev/md4   61G   25G   33G  44% /home
/dev/md1  9.7G  2.2G  7.0G  25% /usr
/dev/md3  2.0G  1.7G  265M  87% /var
   ==  74G

So currently the disk(s) are roughly 2 x 74 GB with about (2x) 25GB free.

I checked on dustin.se, and we could get 2 x 80 GB for about 70 EUR. I'm 
sure we could get old HDDs donated to the project, but it's probably safer 
to get brand new HDDs instead. If the fund doesn't cover this, I'll donate 
the money.  Normally I'd get larger disks when upgrading, but I guess that 
with 25 GB available, we really don't need more space.



* Is it practially possible for us to do this? Does anyone have physical
   access?


That is the grit of it... I have physical access if I want. Just have to 
make an appointment with trolltech. I havent seen the box since before 
they changed offices.


Do you have the time/energy/willingness to do this?   If the answer is 
yes, within what time frame?


Best regards (and nice to hear from you again!)
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, rgheck wrote:


 - buy more memory ->
   we need to ask someone at Trolltech to build it into the machine

The discussion elsewhere seems to me to suggest that this is the best 
option. For what we're running, it'd be surprising if an Athlon 2000+ 
wasn't more than adequate. The problem seems to be swapping. In any 
event, it will likely be a lot cheaper to install a bit of memory than 
to get a new server.


Then again, we could also use a bigger /var partition, right?


I have a vague memory of a discussion related to this in Finland, and I 
think we at the time thought more memory (RAM + HDD) would be enough.


Let's hope that Lars' sees this, he's the one with knowledge about it 
IIRC.


So the questions would then be:
* Can we upgrade the memory?
* What kind of RAM does it take?
* What kind of HDD could we add to it?
* Is it practially possible for us to do this? Does anyone have physical
  access?

I guess we need someone with physical access in order to even figure out 
what kind of RAM and HDD we could upgrade it with?. At least I am not able 
to figure out this remotely.


/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:


So the questions would then be:
* Can we upgrade the memory?


Yes. I have another box hat I don't use anymore (story about water 
cooling and leakage) with 1GB RAM that could be installed into Aussie.


Ah... always good with "extra" information, think I'll stay away from 
water cooling on my next machine then.



* What kind of RAM does it take?
* What kind of HDD could we add to it?


IDE

There is a mirror setup currently, but I don't trust it anymore.

I am not sure that we really need more disk, but the partitioning needs 
to change. And the disks are old, so they should be changed as well...


Size of disks from 'df -h' (only the large parts):

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md21G  313M  644M  33% /
/dev/md4   61G   25G   33G  44% /home
/dev/md1  9.7G  2.2G  7.0G  25% /usr
/dev/md3  2.0G  1.7G  265M  87% /var
   ==  74G

So currently the disk(s) are roughly 2 x 74 GB with about (2x) 25GB free.

I checked on dustin.se, and we could get 2 x 80 GB for about 70 EUR. I'm 
sure we could get old HDDs donated to the project, but it's probably safer 
to get brand new HDDs instead. If the fund doesn't cover this, I'll donate 
the money.  Normally I'd get larger disks when upgrading, but I guess that 
with 25 GB available, we really don't need more space.



* Is it practially possible for us to do this? Does anyone have physical
   access?


That is the grit of it... I have physical access if I want. Just have to 
make an appointment with trolltech. I havent seen the box since before 
they changed offices.


Do you have the time/energy/willingness to do this?   If the answer is 
yes, within what time frame?


Best regards (and nice to hear from you again!)
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
The machine (Athlon 2000+) has been bought from the project's fund 
and from time to time Lars asks  on lyx-users whether somebody could 
renew the lyx.org name. That is all there is to it.


I propose that we should collect the money for the new machine and try
to relocate it to André's location at Trolltech in Berlin. Doing so
assures the support from Trolltech and we have André who whe can contact
when there are problems.
We benefit a lot from Trolltech's support and I hope they will kindly
support us in the future too.

Collecting money for a single server should hopefully not so
problematic. But before we start doing this, we should clearify the
details: what machine to buy, its final location, person who we cantact
in case there are problems that can only be solved by hardware.

regards Uwe


Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Andre Poenitz schrieb:

I propose that we should collect the money for the new machine and try to 
relocate it to André's location at Trolltech in Berlin.


Note that I am not the one who can decide that...


Hello André,

I know that ou can't decide it, it was only a proposal. Could you ask someone at Trolltech about our 
server?

We have the following options:

- buy more memory -
  we need to ask someone at Trolltech to build it into the machine

- buy a new server -
  we need to ask if Trolltech would kindly host it as well as in the past. If 
 they agree, the server could be located where its the best for them. When this is Norway, then OK. 
But perhaps it's possible to have it near you? Of course this implies that you would take care of.


What is your opionion?

I think we all agreed that Aussie needs an update, now we should start to do 
something.

thanks and regards
Uwe


Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-04 Thread rgheck

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Andre Poenitz schrieb:

I propose that we should collect the money for the new machine and 
try to relocate it to André's location at Trolltech in Berlin.


Note that I am not the one who can decide that...


Hello André,

I know that ou can't decide it, it was only a proposal. Could you ask 
someone at Trolltech about our server?

We have the following options:

- buy more memory -
  we need to ask someone at Trolltech to build it into the machine

The discussion elsewhere seems to me to suggest that this is the best 
option. For what we're running, it'd be surprising if an Athlon 2000+ 
wasn't more than adequate. The problem seems to be swapping. In any 
event, it will likely be a lot cheaper to install a bit of memory than 
to get a new server.


Then again, we could also use a bigger /var partition, right?

rh



proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
The machine (Athlon 2000+) has been bought from the project's fund 
and from time to time Lars asks > on lyx-users whether somebody could 
renew the lyx.org name. That is all there is to it.


I propose that we should collect the money for the new machine and try
to relocate it to André's location at Trolltech in Berlin. Doing so
assures the support from Trolltech and we have André who whe can contact
when there are problems.
We benefit a lot from Trolltech's support and I hope they will kindly
support us in the future too.

Collecting money for a single server should hopefully not so
problematic. But before we start doing this, we should clearify the
details: what machine to buy, its final location, person who we cantact
in case there are problems that can only be solved by hardware.

regards Uwe


Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Andre Poenitz schrieb:

I propose that we should collect the money for the new machine and try to 
relocate it to André's location at Trolltech in Berlin.


Note that I am not the one who can decide that...


Hello André,

I know that ou can't decide it, it was only a proposal. Could you ask someone at Trolltech about our 
server?

We have the following options:

- buy more memory ->
  we need to ask someone at Trolltech to build it into the machine

- buy a new server ->
  we need to ask if Trolltech would kindly host it as well as in the past. If 
 they agree, the server could be located where its the best for them. When this is Norway, then OK. 
But perhaps it's possible to have it near you? Of course this implies that you would take care of.


What is your opionion?

I think we all agreed that Aussie needs an update, now we should start to do 
something.

thanks and regards
Uwe


Re: proposal to upgrade Aussie

2008-02-04 Thread rgheck

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Andre Poenitz schrieb:

I propose that we should collect the money for the new machine and 
try to relocate it to André's location at Trolltech in Berlin.


Note that I am not the one who can decide that...


Hello André,

I know that ou can't decide it, it was only a proposal. Could you ask 
someone at Trolltech about our server?

We have the following options:

- buy more memory ->
  we need to ask someone at Trolltech to build it into the machine

The discussion elsewhere seems to me to suggest that this is the best 
option. For what we're running, it'd be surprising if an Athlon 2000+ 
wasn't more than adequate. The problem seems to be swapping. In any 
event, it will likely be a lot cheaper to install a bit of memory than 
to get a new server.


Then again, we could also use a bigger /var partition, right?

rh