Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 00:17, Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:


I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers


Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
LyX?

I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
with LyX.


I've written tens of technical documents, training course and teaching 
materials and a PhD thesis; I am not counting letters. I guess most LyX 
developers are at least in the same league.
Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX; 
unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...


So, I am pretty sure that 'hundreds of documents' is a vast 
under-estimate. We are most probably talking about hundreds of documents 
per year just in France. I guess that you can multiply this number by 
three or four in Germany...




Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users' list?


I also always wanted to know. But that won't count gmane or nabble users 
(like me). Web traffic is also a good indication.


http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel.LyXGeography

Abdel.

Re: Error while importing in RC4

[Julio Rojas]

Reported as bug 5408:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5408
-
Julio Rojas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Should I file this as a bug? As a requested feature?

 As a bug.

 JMarc

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Liviu Andronic]

Abdel,

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
 unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...

How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
LyX is a tool that deserves attention? Perhaps you have some links to
(good) French-language documentation for beginners? I was once
confronted with this, and got stuck; at least in my Social Sciences
university people finding out that I use something different from MS
Word (or at worst OpenOffice) wide-open their eyes.

Thank you,
Liviu

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Murat Yildizoglu]

In economics and mathematics in France, I have many colleagues who know very
well Latex but anly a few of them have ever heard about LyX before I have
asked them the question. Even myself, I have been following the development
LyX for years, without switching to it (I was using pure LateX and
Scientific Word).  LyX has really become a powerful platform now, I think it
deserves much more publicity. I have a small blog where I advise tools
around Latex and friends. It is mainly used by students. I am waiting the
final version of LyX 1.6 to post a presentation of it, since I consider now
that it has become the most powerful LaTeX editor, wit a lot of advantages
over the competition.

Regards,

Murat

2008/10/25 Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On 25/10/2008 11:49, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 Abdel,

 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

 Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
 unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...

  How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
 LyX is a tool that deserves attention?


 Well, in French engineer schools a lot of professors and students know
 already about LateX and LyX, I don't know the situation in university to
 tell you the truth.

  Perhaps you have some links to
 (good) French-language documentation for beginners?


 Not really, sorry.

 Abdel.




-- 
*** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
__

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 11:49, Liviu Andronic wrote:

Abdel,

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...


How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
LyX is a tool that deserves attention?


Well, in French engineer schools a lot of professors and students know 
already about LateX and LyX, I don't know the situation in university to 
tell you the truth.



Perhaps you have some links to
(good) French-language documentation for beginners?


Not really, sorry.

Abdel.

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Christian Ridderström]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote:


On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 00:17 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:


I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers


Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
LyX?

I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
with LyX.

Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users'
list?

Interesting,
/Christian


Now let me ask: how do you cite LyX?


Perhaps by referring to http://www.lyx.org?  According to Google that's 
the answer I got when asking in 2003... time flies. It would be nice with 
a better answer though.


regards
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:

Hi Mike

of activities). In that time, I wrote two refereed journal papers and 
part of the concept study that led to the $100M+ mission.


Way cool.

keep a watchful eye on things), so I don't know how lyx's popularity has 
grown, but I'm fairly confident that hundreds of dissertations, theses, 
and scholarly papers is probably not a bad guess, and very unlikely to 
be an over-estimate.


I definitely agree it's unlikely to be an over-estimate. My question is 
rather how much of an under-estimate it is.


Take it for what you will. The point to the original poster was that LyX 
and LaTeX are powerful, well-used tools, and the difficulties he was 
having are likely in his setup or with his expectations.


I agree, and I think your point was very politely and nicely phrased, 
especially given the original posters language.


Sincere regards,
Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Murat Yildizoglu]

2008/10/25 Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 You are most certainly right for economics and mathematics students. But
 French engineer school students have a (deserved) reputation of laziness; so
 the first thing they would do when they are confronted to LateX is to look
 for a Wysiwig interface to it. The first item in google when you look for
 'latex wysiwyg' is of course LyX :-)


I can imagine this :-)



  I have a small blog where I advise tools around Latex and friends.


 That's interesting, do you have a link?


Here is the address of the blog. It is a small and slow developing blog:
http://yildizoglu.blogspot.com/



 Abdel.


Murat




-- 
*** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
__

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 13:06, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
In economics and mathematics in France, I have many colleagues who 
know very well Latex but anly a few of them have ever heard about LyX 
before I have asked them the question. Even myself, I have been 
following the development LyX for years, without switching to it (I 
was using pure LateX and Scientific Word).  LyX has really become a 
powerful platform now, I think it deserves much more publicity.


You are most certainly right for economics and mathematics students. But 
French engineer school students have a (deserved) reputation of 
laziness; so the first thing they would do when they are confronted to 
LateX is to look for a Wysiwig interface to it. The first item in google 
when you look for 'latex wysiwyg' is of course LyX :-)



I have a small blog where I advise tools around Latex and friends.


That's interesting, do you have a link?

It is mainly used by students. I am waiting the final version of LyX 
1.6 to post a presentation of it, since I consider now that it has 
become the most powerful LaTeX editor, wit a lot of advantages over 
the competition.


I agree ;-)

Abdel.

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 October 2008 06:17:34 pm Christian Ridderström wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:
  I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
  dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers

 Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
 LyX?

I don't know how scholarly my books are, but I've written the following 
books in LyX:

* Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist (309 pages)
* Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting (201 pages)
* Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting (221 pages)
* Troubleshooting: Just the Facts (82 pages)
* Rapid Learning for the 21st Century (136 pages)
* Learn Vim Tonight (94 pages)

Some of my earlier books were written in WordPerfect and MS Word, but once I 
discovered LyX, all further books were written in LyX.

SteveT
 
Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Nikos Alexandris]

On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 13:33 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 
  On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 00:17 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
  On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:
 
  I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
  dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers
 
  Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
  LyX?
 
  I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
  created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
  hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
  with LyX.
 
  Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users'
  list?
 
  Interesting,
  /Christian
 
  Now let me ask: how do you cite LyX?
 
 Perhaps by referring to http://www.lyx.org?  According to Google that's 
 the answer I got when asking in 2003... time flies. It would be nice with 
 a better answer though.
 
 regards
 /Christian

I have put that in my last document, in the very end of it:

This article was prepared using LyX (version 1.6.0rc3), a powerful free
and open source document processing application. More information at
http://www.lyx.org

Regards, Nikos

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Apparently I've been using LyX since '03.  I've got 300+ LyX docs 
relating to teaching (notes, exams, slide shows, handouts), but this 
might be a bit inflated since I put each chapter/lesson in a separate 
file, rather than compiling a book.  On the scholarly output side, 
I've got something like five journal articles and a couple of 
encyclopedia chapters (short articles) written with LyX.  Plus I use 
it for a few personal sorts of documents (such as my c.v.).


Other than Firefox and Thunderbird, this is probably the open-source 
program I use most often.  (Tied with MiKTeX, I guess.)  Props to all 
the developers, past and present.


/Paul

lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[William Seager]

Hi all. I'm not sure this is a problem or just reflects
the unfinished state of lyx 1.6. But I have a large-ish
document (about 140 pages when output to pdf).
On my old slow laptop running lyx 1.5.6 (under gentoo
linux btw) this loads in 2 seconds. On my fast, dual
core amd64 architecture (also gentoo) the same
document takes 37 seconds to load.

Is this just debugging code or something slowing down
the rc, or should I be worried?
-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 17:49, William Seager wrote:

Hi all. I'm not sure this is a problem or just reflects
the unfinished state of lyx 1.6. But I have a large-ish
document (about 140 pages when output to pdf).
On my old slow laptop running lyx 1.5.6 (under gentoo
linux btw) this loads in 2 seconds. On my fast, dual
core amd64 architecture (also gentoo) the same
document takes 37 seconds to load.

Is this just debugging code or something slowing down
the rc, or should I be worried?


How long the UserGuide takes to load?

If anything 1.6 should be faster to load any 1.6 document than 1.5 to 
load 1.5 documents, unless it was compiled with stdlib debug.


I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx 
conversion. Please try to save your document in 1.6 format and then load 
it again. Be warned though that this won't be openable in 1.5 anymore, 
so make a backup.


Abdel.

Re: moderncv and bib as publications

[B. Bogart]

Thanks Xavier,

Indeed it *is* working directly from lyx with the \recomputelengths
command.

I just did not realize my outer margin was set at 0.25! Everything is
looking fine now.

Thanks so much for your help.

I'll send you a diff for the brown colour in another email.

Thanks to Richard for helping me with this also.

B.

Xavier Danaux wrote:
 Hi Ben,
 
 
 Your file compiles perfectly fine on my computer! There is only a small
 bug in the alignment of the contact details (due to the spacing for the
 photo), that is corrected in the attached theme file (to be released as
 soon as I get back from holidays and correct some other small bugs).
 
 I've attached your .tex file and the .pdf compilation I get, both for
 0.25in and 1in as right margin. If there is still a bug that I haven't
 spotted, just let me know.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 Xavier
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks Xavier,
 
 Line 9 is generated by LyX.
 
 I tried adding \recomputelengths in various places (just before the bib,
 right at the top of the document) in my LyX document as tex code, which
 does not result in any change in appearance (lines still wrap long).
 
 So I tried inserting the command directly after line 9 in the tex file I
 sent (generated from lyx, attached) and STILL I don't see any change in
 appearance. I even dropped my hacked moderncv for the official one, and
 still the \recomputelengths commands seems to make no difference.
 
 I've attached the modified tex file (with \recomputelengths) and my bib
 again.
 
 I'm generating a PDF like so:
 
 latex Ben-Bogart-cv
 bibtex Ben-Bogart-cv
 pdflatex Ben-Bogart-cv
 
 Here is the version info for these tools:
 (Maybe your solution is only working in different versions??)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ latex -v
 pdfTeX using libpoppler 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 kpathsea version 3.5.6
 Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
 There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
 covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX using libpoppler copyright and
 the Lesser GNU General Public License.
 For more information about these matters, see the file
 named COPYING and the pdfTeX using libpoppler source.
 Primary author of pdfTeX using libpoppler: Peter Breitenlohner
 (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
 
 Compiled with libpng 1.2.15beta5; using libpng 1.2.15beta5
 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3.3 http://1.2.3.3; using zlib 1.2.3.3
 http://1.2.3.3
 Compiled with libpoppler version 3.00
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ bibtex -v
 BibTeX 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.6)
 kpathsea version 3.5.6
 Copyright 2007 Oren Patashnik.
 Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
 There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
 covered by the terms of both the BibTeX copyright and
 the Lesser GNU General Public License.
 For more information about these matters, see the file
 named COPYING and the BibTeX source.
 Primary author of BibTeX: Oren Patashnik.
 Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ pdflatex -v
 pdfTeX using libpoppler 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 kpathsea version 3.5.6
 Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
 There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
 covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX using libpoppler copyright and
 the Lesser GNU General Public License.
 For more information about these matters, see the file
 named COPYING and the pdfTeX using libpoppler source.
 Primary author of pdfTeX using libpoppler: Peter Breitenlohner
 (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
 
 Compiled with libpng 1.2.15beta5; using libpng 1.2.15beta5
 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3.3 http://1.2.3.3; using zlib 1.2.3.3
 http://1.2.3.3
 Compiled with libpoppler version 3.00
 
 I'm lost here...
 
 I'm posting back to the lyx list as I think it would be useful for
 people to be able to use moderncv with lyx in the future without all
 these issues!
 
 Thanks,
 B. Bogart
 
 Xavier Danaux wrote:
  Hi Ben,
 
 
  Sorry again for being out of touch. But I solved the problem :-)
 
  The problem is that you are modifying the page geometry by using the
  geometry package (see line 9 in the .tex file).
  In order for moderncv to adapt its inner lengths, you should then call
  \recomputelengths. Just add this command after line 9 and everything
  will be fine :-)
 
  I'll add a hook to 

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[William Seager]

On October 25, 2008 12:34:14 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx
 conversion

OK, I'm an idiot. Of course that was the problem - instant loading once
the 1.6 format version was in place :)

-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 19:26, William Seager wrote:

On October 25, 2008 12:34:14 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx
conversion


OK, I'm an idiot.


You are not. We should probably indicate more prominently that a 
conversion is taking place.



Of course that was the problem - instant loading once
the 1.6 format version was in place :)


Always nice to please philosophers ;-)

Abdel.

Change the grey tone of greyed out notes' ouput

[knauslists]

Hello,

I have a large document with some greyed out notes in it. I have already 
printed it out on a black and white laserprinter but the grey tone in which the 
greyed out notes appear on the paper is simply to light and very hard to read.
Is there a simple possibility to change this?

Cheers.

Johannes





Die Zeit ist reif für Ihre Wunschfigur
http://weightwatchers.freenet.de

Re: Change the grey tone of greyed out notes' ouput

[Uwe Stöhr]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:


I have a large document with some greyed out notes in it. I have already 
printed it out on a black and white laserprinter but the grey tone in which the 
greyed out notes appear on the paper is simply to light and very hard to read.
Is there a simple possibility to change this?


Yes, see the EmbeddedObjects manual sec. 4.1

regards Uwe

Problem with intext citations with custom BibTeX .bst file

[Andrew Barr]

Hi all,

I have been using the java program Bib-It to put together my own
custom BibTeX style file.  It is working very well, but the problem I
am having is that I don't seem to be able to specify in-text citation
styles with Bib-It and I don't speak .bst.

Right now the in-text citations only list the first author and year.
I need it to list (FirstAuthor [ SecondAuthor], Year). For more than
two authors, (FirstAuthor \emph{et. al}, Year). I only want to use et
al. for in-text citations.  In the full reference list I need to list
all authors.

My .bst file is available here
https://webspace.utexas.edu/wab536/www/custombst_nat.bst

Any help is much appreciated.

Andrew Barr
UT - Austin

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 00:17, Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:


I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers


Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
LyX?

I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
with LyX.


I've written tens of technical documents, training course and teaching 
materials and a PhD thesis; I am not counting letters. I guess most LyX 
developers are at least in the same league.
Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX; 
unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...


So, I am pretty sure that 'hundreds of documents' is a vast 
under-estimate. We are most probably talking about hundreds of documents 
per year just in France. I guess that you can multiply this number by 
three or four in Germany...




Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users' list?


I also always wanted to know. But that won't count gmane or nabble users 
(like me). Web traffic is also a good indication.


http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel.LyXGeography

Abdel.

Re: Error while importing in RC4

[Julio Rojas]

Reported as bug 5408:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5408
-
Julio Rojas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Should I file this as a bug? As a requested feature?

 As a bug.

 JMarc

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Liviu Andronic]

Abdel,

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
 unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...

How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
LyX is a tool that deserves attention? Perhaps you have some links to
(good) French-language documentation for beginners? I was once
confronted with this, and got stuck; at least in my Social Sciences
university people finding out that I use something different from MS
Word (or at worst OpenOffice) wide-open their eyes.

Thank you,
Liviu

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Murat Yildizoglu]

In economics and mathematics in France, I have many colleagues who know very
well Latex but anly a few of them have ever heard about LyX before I have
asked them the question. Even myself, I have been following the development
LyX for years, without switching to it (I was using pure LateX and
Scientific Word).  LyX has really become a powerful platform now, I think it
deserves much more publicity. I have a small blog where I advise tools
around Latex and friends. It is mainly used by students. I am waiting the
final version of LyX 1.6 to post a presentation of it, since I consider now
that it has become the most powerful LaTeX editor, wit a lot of advantages
over the competition.

Regards,

Murat

2008/10/25 Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On 25/10/2008 11:49, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 Abdel,

 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

 Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
 unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...

  How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
 LyX is a tool that deserves attention?


 Well, in French engineer schools a lot of professors and students know
 already about LateX and LyX, I don't know the situation in university to
 tell you the truth.

  Perhaps you have some links to
 (good) French-language documentation for beginners?


 Not really, sorry.

 Abdel.




-- 
*** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
__

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 11:49, Liviu Andronic wrote:

Abdel,

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...


How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
LyX is a tool that deserves attention?


Well, in French engineer schools a lot of professors and students know 
already about LateX and LyX, I don't know the situation in university to 
tell you the truth.



Perhaps you have some links to
(good) French-language documentation for beginners?


Not really, sorry.

Abdel.

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Christian Ridderström]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote:


On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 00:17 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:


I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers


Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
LyX?

I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
with LyX.

Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users'
list?

Interesting,
/Christian


Now let me ask: how do you cite LyX?


Perhaps by referring to http://www.lyx.org?  According to Google that's 
the answer I got when asking in 2003... time flies. It would be nice with 
a better answer though.


regards
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:

Hi Mike

of activities). In that time, I wrote two refereed journal papers and 
part of the concept study that led to the $100M+ mission.


Way cool.

keep a watchful eye on things), so I don't know how lyx's popularity has 
grown, but I'm fairly confident that hundreds of dissertations, theses, 
and scholarly papers is probably not a bad guess, and very unlikely to 
be an over-estimate.


I definitely agree it's unlikely to be an over-estimate. My question is 
rather how much of an under-estimate it is.


Take it for what you will. The point to the original poster was that LyX 
and LaTeX are powerful, well-used tools, and the difficulties he was 
having are likely in his setup or with his expectations.


I agree, and I think your point was very politely and nicely phrased, 
especially given the original posters language.


Sincere regards,
Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Murat Yildizoglu]

2008/10/25 Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 You are most certainly right for economics and mathematics students. But
 French engineer school students have a (deserved) reputation of laziness; so
 the first thing they would do when they are confronted to LateX is to look
 for a Wysiwig interface to it. The first item in google when you look for
 'latex wysiwyg' is of course LyX :-)


I can imagine this :-)



  I have a small blog where I advise tools around Latex and friends.


 That's interesting, do you have a link?


Here is the address of the blog. It is a small and slow developing blog:
http://yildizoglu.blogspot.com/



 Abdel.


Murat




-- 
*** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
__

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 13:06, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
In economics and mathematics in France, I have many colleagues who 
know very well Latex but anly a few of them have ever heard about LyX 
before I have asked them the question. Even myself, I have been 
following the development LyX for years, without switching to it (I 
was using pure LateX and Scientific Word).  LyX has really become a 
powerful platform now, I think it deserves much more publicity.


You are most certainly right for economics and mathematics students. But 
French engineer school students have a (deserved) reputation of 
laziness; so the first thing they would do when they are confronted to 
LateX is to look for a Wysiwig interface to it. The first item in google 
when you look for 'latex wysiwyg' is of course LyX :-)



I have a small blog where I advise tools around Latex and friends.


That's interesting, do you have a link?

It is mainly used by students. I am waiting the final version of LyX 
1.6 to post a presentation of it, since I consider now that it has 
become the most powerful LaTeX editor, wit a lot of advantages over 
the competition.


I agree ;-)

Abdel.

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 October 2008 06:17:34 pm Christian Ridderström wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:
  I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
  dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers

 Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
 LyX?

I don't know how scholarly my books are, but I've written the following 
books in LyX:

* Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist (309 pages)
* Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting (201 pages)
* Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting (221 pages)
* Troubleshooting: Just the Facts (82 pages)
* Rapid Learning for the 21st Century (136 pages)
* Learn Vim Tonight (94 pages)

Some of my earlier books were written in WordPerfect and MS Word, but once I 
discovered LyX, all further books were written in LyX.

SteveT
 
Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Nikos Alexandris]

On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 13:33 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 
  On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 00:17 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
  On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:
 
  I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
  dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers
 
  Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
  LyX?
 
  I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
  created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
  hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
  with LyX.
 
  Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users'
  list?
 
  Interesting,
  /Christian
 
  Now let me ask: how do you cite LyX?
 
 Perhaps by referring to http://www.lyx.org?  According to Google that's 
 the answer I got when asking in 2003... time flies. It would be nice with 
 a better answer though.
 
 regards
 /Christian

I have put that in my last document, in the very end of it:

This article was prepared using LyX (version 1.6.0rc3), a powerful free
and open source document processing application. More information at
http://www.lyx.org

Regards, Nikos

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Apparently I've been using LyX since '03.  I've got 300+ LyX docs 
relating to teaching (notes, exams, slide shows, handouts), but this 
might be a bit inflated since I put each chapter/lesson in a separate 
file, rather than compiling a book.  On the scholarly output side, 
I've got something like five journal articles and a couple of 
encyclopedia chapters (short articles) written with LyX.  Plus I use 
it for a few personal sorts of documents (such as my c.v.).


Other than Firefox and Thunderbird, this is probably the open-source 
program I use most often.  (Tied with MiKTeX, I guess.)  Props to all 
the developers, past and present.


/Paul

lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[William Seager]

Hi all. I'm not sure this is a problem or just reflects
the unfinished state of lyx 1.6. But I have a large-ish
document (about 140 pages when output to pdf).
On my old slow laptop running lyx 1.5.6 (under gentoo
linux btw) this loads in 2 seconds. On my fast, dual
core amd64 architecture (also gentoo) the same
document takes 37 seconds to load.

Is this just debugging code or something slowing down
the rc, or should I be worried?
-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 17:49, William Seager wrote:

Hi all. I'm not sure this is a problem or just reflects
the unfinished state of lyx 1.6. But I have a large-ish
document (about 140 pages when output to pdf).
On my old slow laptop running lyx 1.5.6 (under gentoo
linux btw) this loads in 2 seconds. On my fast, dual
core amd64 architecture (also gentoo) the same
document takes 37 seconds to load.

Is this just debugging code or something slowing down
the rc, or should I be worried?


How long the UserGuide takes to load?

If anything 1.6 should be faster to load any 1.6 document than 1.5 to 
load 1.5 documents, unless it was compiled with stdlib debug.


I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx 
conversion. Please try to save your document in 1.6 format and then load 
it again. Be warned though that this won't be openable in 1.5 anymore, 
so make a backup.


Abdel.

Re: moderncv and bib as publications

[B. Bogart]

Thanks Xavier,

Indeed it *is* working directly from lyx with the \recomputelengths
command.

I just did not realize my outer margin was set at 0.25! Everything is
looking fine now.

Thanks so much for your help.

I'll send you a diff for the brown colour in another email.

Thanks to Richard for helping me with this also.

B.

Xavier Danaux wrote:
 Hi Ben,
 
 
 Your file compiles perfectly fine on my computer! There is only a small
 bug in the alignment of the contact details (due to the spacing for the
 photo), that is corrected in the attached theme file (to be released as
 soon as I get back from holidays and correct some other small bugs).
 
 I've attached your .tex file and the .pdf compilation I get, both for
 0.25in and 1in as right margin. If there is still a bug that I haven't
 spotted, just let me know.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 Xavier
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks Xavier,
 
 Line 9 is generated by LyX.
 
 I tried adding \recomputelengths in various places (just before the bib,
 right at the top of the document) in my LyX document as tex code, which
 does not result in any change in appearance (lines still wrap long).
 
 So I tried inserting the command directly after line 9 in the tex file I
 sent (generated from lyx, attached) and STILL I don't see any change in
 appearance. I even dropped my hacked moderncv for the official one, and
 still the \recomputelengths commands seems to make no difference.
 
 I've attached the modified tex file (with \recomputelengths) and my bib
 again.
 
 I'm generating a PDF like so:
 
 latex Ben-Bogart-cv
 bibtex Ben-Bogart-cv
 pdflatex Ben-Bogart-cv
 
 Here is the version info for these tools:
 (Maybe your solution is only working in different versions??)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ latex -v
 pdfTeX using libpoppler 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 kpathsea version 3.5.6
 Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
 There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
 covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX using libpoppler copyright and
 the Lesser GNU General Public License.
 For more information about these matters, see the file
 named COPYING and the pdfTeX using libpoppler source.
 Primary author of pdfTeX using libpoppler: Peter Breitenlohner
 (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
 
 Compiled with libpng 1.2.15beta5; using libpng 1.2.15beta5
 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3.3 http://1.2.3.3; using zlib 1.2.3.3
 http://1.2.3.3
 Compiled with libpoppler version 3.00
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ bibtex -v
 BibTeX 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.6)
 kpathsea version 3.5.6
 Copyright 2007 Oren Patashnik.
 Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
 There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
 covered by the terms of both the BibTeX copyright and
 the Lesser GNU General Public License.
 For more information about these matters, see the file
 named COPYING and the BibTeX source.
 Primary author of BibTeX: Oren Patashnik.
 Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ pdflatex -v
 pdfTeX using libpoppler 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 kpathsea version 3.5.6
 Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
 There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
 covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX using libpoppler copyright and
 the Lesser GNU General Public License.
 For more information about these matters, see the file
 named COPYING and the pdfTeX using libpoppler source.
 Primary author of pdfTeX using libpoppler: Peter Breitenlohner
 (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
 Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
 
 Compiled with libpng 1.2.15beta5; using libpng 1.2.15beta5
 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3.3 http://1.2.3.3; using zlib 1.2.3.3
 http://1.2.3.3
 Compiled with libpoppler version 3.00
 
 I'm lost here...
 
 I'm posting back to the lyx list as I think it would be useful for
 people to be able to use moderncv with lyx in the future without all
 these issues!
 
 Thanks,
 B. Bogart
 
 Xavier Danaux wrote:
  Hi Ben,
 
 
  Sorry again for being out of touch. But I solved the problem :-)
 
  The problem is that you are modifying the page geometry by using the
  geometry package (see line 9 in the .tex file).
  In order for moderncv to adapt its inner lengths, you should then call
  \recomputelengths. Just add this command after line 9 and everything
  will be fine :-)
 
  I'll add a hook to 

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[William Seager]

On October 25, 2008 12:34:14 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx
 conversion

OK, I'm an idiot. Of course that was the problem - instant loading once
the 1.6 format version was in place :)

-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 19:26, William Seager wrote:

On October 25, 2008 12:34:14 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx
conversion


OK, I'm an idiot.


You are not. We should probably indicate more prominently that a 
conversion is taking place.



Of course that was the problem - instant loading once
the 1.6 format version was in place :)


Always nice to please philosophers ;-)

Abdel.

Change the grey tone of greyed out notes' ouput

[knauslists]

Hello,

I have a large document with some greyed out notes in it. I have already 
printed it out on a black and white laserprinter but the grey tone in which the 
greyed out notes appear on the paper is simply to light and very hard to read.
Is there a simple possibility to change this?

Cheers.

Johannes





Die Zeit ist reif für Ihre Wunschfigur
http://weightwatchers.freenet.de

Re: Change the grey tone of greyed out notes' ouput

[Uwe Stöhr]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:


I have a large document with some greyed out notes in it. I have already 
printed it out on a black and white laserprinter but the grey tone in which the 
greyed out notes appear on the paper is simply to light and very hard to read.
Is there a simple possibility to change this?


Yes, see the EmbeddedObjects manual sec. 4.1

regards Uwe

Problem with intext citations with custom BibTeX .bst file

[Andrew Barr]

Hi all,

I have been using the java program Bib-It to put together my own
custom BibTeX style file.  It is working very well, but the problem I
am having is that I don't seem to be able to specify in-text citation
styles with Bib-It and I don't speak .bst.

Right now the in-text citations only list the first author and year.
I need it to list (FirstAuthor [ SecondAuthor], Year). For more than
two authors, (FirstAuthor \emph{et. al}, Year). I only want to use et
al. for in-text citations.  In the full reference list I need to list
all authors.

My .bst file is available here
https://webspace.utexas.edu/wab536/www/custombst_nat.bst

Any help is much appreciated.

Andrew Barr
UT - Austin

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 00:17, Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:


I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers


Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
LyX?

I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
with LyX.


I've written tens of technical documents, training course and teaching 
materials and a PhD thesis; I am not counting letters. I guess most LyX 
developers are at least in the same league.
Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX; 
unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...


So, I am pretty sure that 'hundreds of documents' is a vast 
under-estimate. We are most probably talking about hundreds of documents 
per year just in France. I guess that you can multiply this number by 
three or four in Germany...




Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users' list?


I also always wanted to know. But that won't count gmane or nabble users 
(like me). Web traffic is also a good indication.


http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel.LyXGeography

Abdel.

Re: Error while importing in RC4

[Julio Rojas]

Reported as bug 5408:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5408
-
Julio Rojas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Should I file this as a bug? As a requested feature?
>
> As a bug.
>
> JMarc
>

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Liviu Andronic]

Abdel,

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
> unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...
>
How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
LyX is a tool that deserves attention? Perhaps you have some links to
(good) French-language documentation for beginners? I was once
confronted with this, and got stuck; at least in my Social Sciences
university people finding out that I use something different from MS
Word (or at worst OpenOffice) wide-open their eyes.

Thank you,
Liviu

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Murat Yildizoglu]

In economics and mathematics in France, I have many colleagues who know very
well Latex but anly a few of them have ever heard about LyX before I have
asked them the question. Even myself, I have been following the development
LyX for years, without switching to it (I was using pure LateX and
Scientific Word).  LyX has really become a powerful platform now, I think it
deserves much more publicity. I have a small blog where I advise tools
around Latex and friends. It is mainly used by students. I am waiting the
final version of LyX 1.6 to post a presentation of it, since I consider now
that it has become the most powerful LaTeX editor, wit a lot of advantages
over the competition.

Regards,

Murat

2008/10/25 Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On 25/10/2008 11:49, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>
>> Abdel,
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
>>> unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...
>>>
>>>  How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
>> LyX is a tool that deserves attention?
>>
>
> Well, in French engineer schools a lot of professors and students know
> already about LateX and LyX, I don't know the situation in university to
> tell you the truth.
>
>  Perhaps you have some links to
>> (good) French-language documentation for beginners?
>>
>
> Not really, sorry.
>
> Abdel.
>
>


-- 
*** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
__

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 11:49, Liviu Andronic wrote:

Abdel,

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Abdelrazak Younes<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

Many many students in France begins with LyX to ease the path to LateX;
unfortunately most of them switch to MSWord after school...


How would you go about convincing French professors (or students) that
LyX is a tool that deserves attention?


Well, in French engineer schools a lot of professors and students know 
already about LateX and LyX, I don't know the situation in university to 
tell you the truth.



Perhaps you have some links to
(good) French-language documentation for beginners?


Not really, sorry.

Abdel.

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Christian Ridderström]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote:


On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 00:17 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:


I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers


Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
LyX?

I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
with LyX.

Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users'
list?

Interesting,
/Christian


Now let me ask: how do you cite LyX?


Perhaps by referring to http://www.lyx.org?  According to Google that's 
the answer I got when asking in 2003... time flies. It would be nice with 
a better answer though.


regards
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:

Hi Mike

of activities). In that time, I wrote two refereed journal papers and 
part of the concept study that led to the $100M+ mission.


Way cool.

keep a watchful eye on things), so I don't know how lyx's popularity has 
grown, but I'm fairly confident that "hundreds of dissertations, theses, 
and scholarly papers" is probably not a bad guess, and very unlikely to 
be an over-estimate.


I definitely agree it's unlikely to be an over-estimate. My question is 
rather how much of an under-estimate it is.


Take it for what you will. The point to the original poster was that LyX 
and LaTeX are powerful, well-used tools, and the difficulties he was 
having are likely in his setup or with his expectations.


I agree, and I think your point was very politely and nicely phrased, 
especially given the original posters language.


Sincere regards,
Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Murat Yildizoglu]

2008/10/25 Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> You are most certainly right for economics and mathematics students. But
> French engineer school students have a (deserved) reputation of laziness; so
> the first thing they would do when they are confronted to LateX is to look
> for a Wysiwig interface to it. The first item in google when you look for
> 'latex wysiwyg' is of course LyX :-)


I can imagine this :-)

>
>
>  I have a small blog where I advise tools around Latex and friends.
>>
>
> That's interesting, do you have a link?


Here is the address of the blog. It is a small and slow developing blog:
http://yildizoglu.blogspot.com/

>
>
> Abdel.


Murat




-- 
*** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
__

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 13:06, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
In economics and mathematics in France, I have many colleagues who 
know very well Latex but anly a few of them have ever heard about LyX 
before I have asked them the question. Even myself, I have been 
following the development LyX for years, without switching to it (I 
was using pure LateX and Scientific Word).  LyX has really become a 
powerful platform now, I think it deserves much more publicity.


You are most certainly right for economics and mathematics students. But 
French engineer school students have a (deserved) reputation of 
laziness; so the first thing they would do when they are confronted to 
LateX is to look for a Wysiwig interface to it. The first item in google 
when you look for 'latex wysiwyg' is of course LyX :-)



I have a small blog where I advise tools around Latex and friends.


That's interesting, do you have a link?

It is mainly used by students. I am waiting the final version of LyX 
1.6 to post a presentation of it, since I consider now that it has 
become the most powerful LaTeX editor, wit a lot of advantages over 
the competition.


I agree ;-)

Abdel.

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 October 2008 06:17:34 pm Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:
> > I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
> > dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers
>
> Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
> LyX?

I don't know how "scholarly" my books are, but I've written the following 
books in LyX:

* Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist (309 pages)
* Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting (201 pages)
* Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting (221 pages)
* Troubleshooting: Just the Facts (82 pages)
* Rapid Learning for the 21st Century (136 pages)
* Learn Vim Tonight (94 pages)

Some of my earlier books were written in WordPerfect and MS Word, but once I 
discovered LyX, all further books were written in LyX.

SteveT
 
Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Nikos Alexandris]

On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 13:33 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 00:17 +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Ressler wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can assure you that LyX has been used to write hundreds of
> >>> dissertations, theses, and scholarly papers
> >>
> >> Interesting question... how many such documents have been written using
> >> LyX?
> >>
> >> I've written something like 10-20 documents (not counting presentations
> >> created with LyX). If ten documents is a typical number, and LyX has
> >> hundreds of users, we'd be talking about thousands of documents prepared
> >> with LyX.
> >>
> >> Actually... I wonder how many users are subscribed just to the users'
> >> list?
> >>
> >> Interesting,
> >> /Christian
> >
> > Now let me ask: how do you cite LyX?
> 
> Perhaps by referring to http://www.lyx.org?  According to Google that's 
> the answer I got when asking in 2003... time flies. It would be nice with 
> a better answer though.
> 
> regards
> /Christian

I have put that in my last document, in the very end of it:

This article was prepared using LyX (version 1.6.0rc3), a powerful free
and open source document processing application. More information at
http://www.lyx.org

Regards, Nikos

Re: Number of documents prepared with LyX? (Was: Frustrated user)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Apparently I've been using LyX since '03.  I've got 300+ LyX docs 
relating to teaching (notes, exams, slide shows, handouts), but this 
might be a bit inflated since I put each chapter/lesson in a separate 
file, rather than compiling a book.  On the "scholarly output" side, 
I've got something like five journal articles and a couple of 
encyclopedia "chapters" (short articles) written with LyX.  Plus I use 
it for a few personal sorts of documents (such as my c.v.).


Other than Firefox and Thunderbird, this is probably the open-source 
program I use most often.  (Tied with MiKTeX, I guess.)  Props to all 
the developers, past and present.


/Paul

lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[William Seager]

Hi all. I'm not sure this is a problem or just reflects
the unfinished state of lyx 1.6. But I have a large-ish
document (about 140 pages when output to pdf).
On my old slow laptop running lyx 1.5.6 (under gentoo
linux btw) this loads in 2 seconds. On my fast, dual
core amd64 architecture (also gentoo) the same
document takes 37 seconds to load.

Is this just debugging code or something slowing down
the rc, or should I be worried?
-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 17:49, William Seager wrote:

Hi all. I'm not sure this is a problem or just reflects
the unfinished state of lyx 1.6. But I have a large-ish
document (about 140 pages when output to pdf).
On my old slow laptop running lyx 1.5.6 (under gentoo
linux btw) this loads in 2 seconds. On my fast, dual
core amd64 architecture (also gentoo) the same
document takes 37 seconds to load.

Is this just debugging code or something slowing down
the rc, or should I be worried?


How long the UserGuide takes to load?

If anything 1.6 should be faster to load any 1.6 document than 1.5 to 
load 1.5 documents, unless it was compiled with stdlib debug.


I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx 
conversion. Please try to save your document in 1.6 format and then load 
it again. Be warned though that this won't be openable in 1.5 anymore, 
so make a backup.


Abdel.

Re: moderncv and bib as "publications"

[B. Bogart]

Thanks Xavier,

Indeed it *is* working directly from lyx with the "\recomputelengths"
command.

I just did not realize my outer margin was set at 0.25! Everything is
looking fine now.

Thanks so much for your help.

I'll send you a diff for the brown colour in another email.

Thanks to Richard for helping me with this also.

B.

Xavier Danaux wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> 
> 
> Your file compiles perfectly fine on my computer! There is only a small
> bug in the alignment of the contact details (due to the spacing for the
> photo), that is corrected in the attached theme file (to be released as
> soon as I get back from holidays and correct some other small bugs).
> 
> I've attached your .tex file and the .pdf compilation I get, both for
> 0.25in and 1in as right margin. If there is still a bug that I haven't
> spotted, just let me know.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Xavier
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM, B. Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> Thanks Xavier,
> 
> Line 9 is generated by LyX.
> 
> I tried adding \recomputelengths in various places (just before the bib,
> right at the top of the document) in my LyX document as tex code, which
> does not result in any change in appearance (lines still wrap long).
> 
> So I tried inserting the command directly after line 9 in the tex file I
> sent (generated from lyx, attached) and STILL I don't see any change in
> appearance. I even dropped my hacked moderncv for the official one, and
> still the \recomputelengths commands seems to make no difference.
> 
> I've attached the modified tex file (with \recomputelengths) and my bib
> again.
> 
> I'm generating a PDF like so:
> 
> latex Ben-Bogart-cv
> bibtex Ben-Bogart-cv
> pdflatex Ben-Bogart-cv
> 
> Here is the version info for these tools:
> (Maybe your solution is only working in different versions??)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ latex -v
> pdfTeX using libpoppler 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
> kpathsea version 3.5.6
> Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
> Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
> There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
> covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX using libpoppler copyright and
> the Lesser GNU General Public License.
> For more information about these matters, see the file
> named COPYING and the pdfTeX using libpoppler source.
> Primary author of pdfTeX using libpoppler: Peter Breitenlohner
> (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
> Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
> 
> Compiled with libpng 1.2.15beta5; using libpng 1.2.15beta5
> Compiled with zlib 1.2.3.3 ; using zlib 1.2.3.3
> 
> Compiled with libpoppler version 3.00
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ bibtex -v
> BibTeX 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.6)
> kpathsea version 3.5.6
> Copyright 2007 Oren Patashnik.
> Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
> There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
> covered by the terms of both the BibTeX copyright and
> the Lesser GNU General Public License.
> For more information about these matters, see the file
> named COPYING and the BibTeX source.
> Primary author of BibTeX: Oren Patashnik.
> Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cv$ pdflatex -v
> pdfTeX using libpoppler 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
> kpathsea version 3.5.6
> Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
> Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
> There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
> covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX using libpoppler copyright and
> the Lesser GNU General Public License.
> For more information about these matters, see the file
> named COPYING and the pdfTeX using libpoppler source.
> Primary author of pdfTeX using libpoppler: Peter Breitenlohner
> (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
> Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.
> 
> Compiled with libpng 1.2.15beta5; using libpng 1.2.15beta5
> Compiled with zlib 1.2.3.3 ; using zlib 1.2.3.3
> 
> Compiled with libpoppler version 3.00
> 
> I'm lost here...
> 
> I'm posting back to the lyx list as I think it would be useful for
> people to be able to use moderncv with lyx in the future without all
> these issues!
> 
> Thanks,
> B. Bogart
> 
> Xavier Danaux wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> >
> > Sorry again for being out of touch. But I solved the problem :-)
> >
> > The "problem" is that you are modifying the page geometry by using the
> > "geometry" package (see line 9 in the .tex file).
> > In order for moderncv to adapt its inner lengths, you should then call

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[William Seager]

On October 25, 2008 12:34:14 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx
> conversion

OK, I'm an idiot. Of course that was the problem - instant loading once
the 1.6 format version was in place :)

-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager

Re: lyx 1.6rc4 ultra slow to load document

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 25/10/2008 19:26, William Seager wrote:

On October 25, 2008 12:34:14 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

I guess the 37 seconds you are seeing is probably due to lyx2lyx
conversion


OK, I'm an idiot.


You are not. We should probably indicate more prominently that a 
conversion is taking place.



Of course that was the problem - instant loading once
the 1.6 format version was in place :)


Always nice to please philosophers ;-)

Abdel.

Change the grey tone of greyed out notes' ouput

[knauslists]

Hello,

I have a large document with some greyed out notes in it. I have already 
printed it out on a black and white laserprinter but the grey tone in which the 
greyed out notes appear on the paper is simply to light and very hard to read.
Is there a simple possibility to change this?

Cheers.

Johannes





Die Zeit ist reif für Ihre Wunschfigur
http://weightwatchers.freenet.de

Re: Change the grey tone of greyed out notes' ouput

[Uwe Stöhr]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:


I have a large document with some greyed out notes in it. I have already 
printed it out on a black and white laserprinter but the grey tone in which the 
greyed out notes appear on the paper is simply to light and very hard to read.
Is there a simple possibility to change this?


Yes, see the EmbeddedObjects manual sec. 4.1

regards Uwe

Problem with intext citations with custom BibTeX .bst file

[Andrew Barr]

Hi all,

I have been using the java program Bib-It to put together my own
custom BibTeX style file.  It is working very well, but the problem I
am having is that I don't seem to be able to specify in-text citation
styles with Bib-It and I don't speak .bst.

Right now the in-text citations only list the first author and year.
I need it to list (FirstAuthor [& SecondAuthor], Year). For more than
two authors, (FirstAuthor \emph{et. al}, Year). I only want to use et
al. for in-text citations.  In the full reference list I need to list
all authors.

My .bst file is available here
https://webspace.utexas.edu/wab536/www/custombst_nat.bst

Any help is much appreciated.

Andrew Barr
UT - Austin