Re: Forcing the floats position

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-27, Petr A. Ossipov wrote:
 Hey

 I've got a problem with lyx placing my floats. I now have a subsection, 
 and soon after it a float with image (and also a float with listing). 
 However, after rendering, it places the image before this section, which 
 is undesired. Is there a way to tell lyx that a float must be not before 
 this subsection's title?

flafter is a LaTeX package that ensures that all floats never appear
before the place where they are defined in the LaTeX (or LyX) source.

In the LaTeX preamble, add

  \usepackage{flafter}  

Günter

Re: Forcing the floats position

[Petr A. Osipov]

Thanks!


Guenter Milde wrote:

On 2010-06-27, Petr A. Ossipov wrote:
  

Hey



  
I've got a problem with lyx placing my floats. I now have a subsection, 
and soon after it a float with image (and also a float with listing). 
However, after rendering, it places the image before this section, which 
is undesired. Is there a way to tell lyx that a float must be not before 
this subsection's title?



flafter is a LaTeX package that ensures that all floats never appear
before the place where they are defined in the LaTeX (or LyX) source.

In the LaTeX preamble, add

  \usepackage{flafter}  


Günter
  

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-27, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:11 AM, KYokota yokot...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are there any ways to remove this preamble? I appreciate very much if
 anyone could give me any instructions or hints.

 In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document  Fonts  LaTeX
 font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
(ToolsSettings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

Günter

Re: Choice of color package

[Helge Hafting]

On 24. juni 2010 18:56, Artimess wrote:

Hi all,

I am beginning a large document that will have extensive use of colors.
Between color and xcolor which one is better positioned for such
a document.

I do appreciate your feedback and many thanks in advance,


You need to tell more about what you want to do.
LyX has some color support already, maybe you won't need to do anything.

* Colored text is already supported. Mark text, then use
  Edit-Text Style-Customized,
  Then select the color you want in the dialog box.

* Colored images is already supported. Insert-Graphics

* Colored tables can be done, see
  Help-Embedded Objects.

Helge Hafting

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[KYokota]

Liviu and Guenter,

Thank you very much for the information. It helps a lot.

 In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document  Fonts  LaTeX
 font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

I see. 2.0 users can manually control the fontenc line after version
2.0 from inside LyX, so I only need to give them an instruction to do
so.

 In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
 (ToolsSettings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

By changing from T1 to OT1, the font problem I faced disappeared so
users can at least work on LyX. However, it seems the publisher
requires the fontenc line to be completely removed if the users don't
use the proprietary mathtime package (the publisher doesn't use LaTeX
to typeset). So, I'm going to ask pre-2.0 users to edit exported LaTeX
file with external editors before they submit the manuscripts.

Thank you again for your help!

Koji

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2010/6/28 KYokota:
 Liviu and Guenter,

 Thank you very much for the information. It helps a lot.

 In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document  Fonts  LaTeX
 font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

 I see. 2.0 users can manually control the fontenc line after version
 2.0 from inside LyX, so I only need to give them an instruction to do
 so.

Nonetheless, we should suport provides fontenc in the layout file.
Actually, this is trivial to implement. Please file an enhancement
request.

 In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
 (ToolsSettings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

 By changing from T1 to OT1, the font problem I faced disappeared so
 users can at least work on LyX. However, it seems the publisher
 requires the fontenc line to be completely removed if the users don't
 use the proprietary mathtime package (the publisher doesn't use LaTeX
 to typeset).

The trick with 1.6 is to enter the string default instead of T1 or
OT1 into the preferences' fontenc widget.

Jürgen

 Thank you again for your help!

 Koji

Re: hyperlink display

[Manveru]

To all it may concern not reading Trac - I've just added following comment:

I would like to enhance this idea with an option to display an small
icon before the text, like WikiMedia does on its pages.

This method my apply to all other small insets, like footnote, label,
etc. Icons may contain tooltips explaining what kind of inset is that,
even short explanation may be useful.

Certainly I understand that displaying such images in LyX text control
may be harder to implement that current mechanism basing on
descriptive texts.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

2010/6/25 Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com:
 I've added an enhancement request:
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6788
 Best,
 -Jose

 Jose Quesada, PhD.
 Max Planck Institute,
 Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
 Berlin
 http://www.josequesada.name/
 http://twitter.com/Quesada


 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de
 wrote:

 On 2010-06-24, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
  Hi,
  The current hyperlink display (at least in the doc classes I've tried)
  is as
  follows:
  [hyperlink: text limited in width]
  Would it be possible to have a more conventional display, eg not having
  the
  word hyperlink preceeding the text, not having the limited width, and
  say
  having it format as underscored blue text? I mean the lyx preview, not
  the
  resulting pdf.

  Yes, it's possible, but someone has to implement it and make it such
  that everyone likes it.

 I'd like to use some Unicodechar instead of a full word for references,
 labels and hyperlinks.

 As there is no one size fits all solution, please make tags
 configurable.

 BTW: there is a workaround for users of LyX in a non-english language:
 configure the translation of these tag names.

 Günter

Re: hyperlink display

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-28, Manveru wrote:
 To all it may concern not reading Trac - I've just added following comment:

 I would like to enhance this idea with an option to display an small
 icon before the text, like WikiMedia does on its pages.

 This method my apply to all other small insets, like footnote, label,
 etc. Icons may contain tooltips explaining what kind of inset is that,
 even short explanation may be useful.

 Certainly I understand that displaying such images in LyX text control
 may be harder to implement that current mechanism basing on
 descriptive texts.

With good Screen font, the simple option is to choose from the rich set
of Unicode symbols. 

Günter

No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[James C. Sutherland]

I just discovered that mouse scrolling does not work in 2.0 alpha 4 on Mac.
Can anyone else confirm?

James

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Mike Martell]

Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.  Thanks so
much!
Mike

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in the document
 doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one of the sections whose spacing
 was inconsistent.

  It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it in
 \makeatletter at the beginning and \makeatother at the end.

 The specific command I suggested won't do what you want. You'll have to
 adjust the spacing and the font commands that format the heading. But you
 should actually be able to get those values from the class file. That is, if
 you have using thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
 something like:


 \newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
{-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus -.2ex}%
{2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
{\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}

 (This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to \...@startsection
 (i)   set the name of the division (section)
 (ii)  set the level in the hierarchy of divisions (so chapter is 0)
 (iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case, using the macro
 \z@)
 (iv)  set the space above the heading
 (v)   set the space below the heading
 (vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the heading; in
 this case, it is large and bold
 As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls rubber lengths and the
 second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if
 necessary to fix page breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
 optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to 0.2exes; the
 minus is a hack that means: suppress the indentation of the first paragraph
 following this heading. So that is why the spacing can be inconsistent:
 LaTeX is being told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
 almost a third.

 What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a \renewcommnd,
 and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the same.

 Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue probably has to do
 with float placement. But we can come back to that.

 Richard




 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Hi:
 I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to submit to the library.
  I'm using a thesis class.  My output has the spacing between text and
 sections, and text and subjections, to vary throughout the dissertation.  I
 need the spacing to be consistent.  After searching the list archive and
 some tutorials, I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my diss, but
 this does not fix the problem.

 Is there a way to fix this?

   This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of page breaking
 require, just as is done in books and articles. If you need it to be
 constant, then do something along the lines of:
\renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
{-3.5ex}{2ex}%
{\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
 The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained here:
http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
 and elsewhere.

 rh

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Mike Martell]

Now LyX is making my spacing inconsistent in places (making it single
instead of double) to keep my section spacing consistent.  Is there a way I
can fix that too?
thanks,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mike Martell martell.m...@american.eduwrote:

 Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.  Thanks so
 much!
 Mike


 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in the document
 doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one of the sections whose spacing
 was inconsistent.

  It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it in
 \makeatletter at the beginning and \makeatother at the end.

 The specific command I suggested won't do what you want. You'll have to
 adjust the spacing and the font commands that format the heading. But you
 should actually be able to get those values from the class file. That is, if
 you have using thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
 something like:


 \newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
{-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus -.2ex}%
{2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
{\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}

 (This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to \...@startsection
 (i)   set the name of the division (section)
 (ii)  set the level in the hierarchy of divisions (so chapter is 0)
 (iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case, using the macro
 \z@)
 (iv)  set the space above the heading
 (v)   set the space below the heading
 (vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the heading; in
 this case, it is large and bold
 As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls rubber lengths and the
 second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if
 necessary to fix page breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
 optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to 0.2exes; the
 minus is a hack that means: suppress the indentation of the first paragraph
 following this heading. So that is why the spacing can be inconsistent:
 LaTeX is being told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
 almost a third.

 What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a \renewcommnd,
 and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the same.

 Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue probably has to do
 with float placement. But we can come back to that.

 Richard




 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Hi:
 I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to submit to the
 library.  I'm using a thesis class.  My output has the spacing between text
 and sections, and text and subjections, to vary throughout the 
 dissertation.
  I need the spacing to be consistent.  After searching the list archive and
 some tutorials, I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my diss, but
 this does not fix the problem.

 Is there a way to fix this?

   This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of page
 breaking require, just as is done in books and articles. If you need it to
 be constant, then do something along the lines of:
\renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
{-3.5ex}{2ex}%
{\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
 The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained here:
http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
 and elsewhere.

 rh

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Richard Heck]

On 06/28/2010 10:45 PM, Mike Martell wrote:
Now LyX is making my spacing inconsistent in places (making it single 
instead of double) to keep my section spacing consistent.  Is there a 
way I can fix that too?


Probably, though I don't know how. That said, LaTeX is neither designed 
nor intended for this kind of fine-grained control over spacing.


Probably, the effects you are seeing have to do with float placement. 
Are you trying to force floats to appear in specific places? If so, then 
this can cause all kinds of problems.


rh



thanks,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mike Martell 
martell.m...@american.edu mailto:martell.m...@american.edu wrote:


Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.
 Thanks so much!
Mike


On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net
mailto:rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in
the document doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one
of the sections whose spacing was inconsistent.


It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it
in \makeatletter at the beginning and \makeatother at the end.

The specific command I suggested won't do what you want.
You'll have to adjust the spacing and the font commands that
format the heading. But you should actually be able to get
those values from the class file. That is, if you have using
thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
something like:


\newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
   {-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus
-.2ex}%
   {2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
   {\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}

(This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to
\...@startsection
(i)   set the name of the division (section)
(ii)  set the level in the hierarchy of divisions (so
chapter is 0)
(iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case,
using the macro \z@)
(iv)  set the space above the heading
(v)   set the space below the heading
(vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the
heading; in this case, it is large and bold
As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls rubber
lengths and the second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and
optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if necessary to fix page
breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to
0.2exes; the minus is a hack that means: suppress the
indentation of the first paragraph following this heading. So
that is why the spacing can be inconsistent: LaTeX is being
told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
almost a third.

What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a
\renewcommnd, and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the
same.

Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue
probably has to do with float placement. But we can come back
to that.

Richard





On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck
rgh...@comcast.net mailto:rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

Hi:
I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to
submit to the library.  I'm using a thesis class.  My
output has the spacing between text and sections, and
text and subjections, to vary throughout the
dissertation.  I need the spacing to be consistent.
 After searching the list archive and some tutorials,
I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my
diss, but this does not fix the problem.

Is there a way to fix this?

This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of
page breaking require, just as is done in books and
articles. If you need it to be constant, then do
something along the lines of:
   \renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
   {-3.5ex}{2ex}%
   {\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained
here:
http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
and elsewhere.

rh

Re: Forcing the floats position

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-27, Petr A. Ossipov wrote:
 Hey

 I've got a problem with lyx placing my floats. I now have a subsection, 
 and soon after it a float with image (and also a float with listing). 
 However, after rendering, it places the image before this section, which 
 is undesired. Is there a way to tell lyx that a float must be not before 
 this subsection's title?

flafter is a LaTeX package that ensures that all floats never appear
before the place where they are defined in the LaTeX (or LyX) source.

In the LaTeX preamble, add

  \usepackage{flafter}  

Günter

Re: Forcing the floats position

[Petr A. Osipov]

Thanks!


Guenter Milde wrote:

On 2010-06-27, Petr A. Ossipov wrote:
  

Hey



  
I've got a problem with lyx placing my floats. I now have a subsection, 
and soon after it a float with image (and also a float with listing). 
However, after rendering, it places the image before this section, which 
is undesired. Is there a way to tell lyx that a float must be not before 
this subsection's title?



flafter is a LaTeX package that ensures that all floats never appear
before the place where they are defined in the LaTeX (or LyX) source.

In the LaTeX preamble, add

  \usepackage{flafter}  


Günter
  

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-27, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:11 AM, KYokota yokot...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are there any ways to remove this preamble? I appreciate very much if
 anyone could give me any instructions or hints.

 In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document  Fonts  LaTeX
 font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
(ToolsSettings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

Günter

Re: Choice of color package

[Helge Hafting]

On 24. juni 2010 18:56, Artimess wrote:

Hi all,

I am beginning a large document that will have extensive use of colors.
Between color and xcolor which one is better positioned for such
a document.

I do appreciate your feedback and many thanks in advance,


You need to tell more about what you want to do.
LyX has some color support already, maybe you won't need to do anything.

* Colored text is already supported. Mark text, then use
  Edit-Text Style-Customized,
  Then select the color you want in the dialog box.

* Colored images is already supported. Insert-Graphics

* Colored tables can be done, see
  Help-Embedded Objects.

Helge Hafting

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[KYokota]

Liviu and Guenter,

Thank you very much for the information. It helps a lot.

 In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document  Fonts  LaTeX
 font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

I see. 2.0 users can manually control the fontenc line after version
2.0 from inside LyX, so I only need to give them an instruction to do
so.

 In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
 (ToolsSettings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

By changing from T1 to OT1, the font problem I faced disappeared so
users can at least work on LyX. However, it seems the publisher
requires the fontenc line to be completely removed if the users don't
use the proprietary mathtime package (the publisher doesn't use LaTeX
to typeset). So, I'm going to ask pre-2.0 users to edit exported LaTeX
file with external editors before they submit the manuscripts.

Thank you again for your help!

Koji

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2010/6/28 KYokota:
 Liviu and Guenter,

 Thank you very much for the information. It helps a lot.

 In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document  Fonts  LaTeX
 font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

 I see. 2.0 users can manually control the fontenc line after version
 2.0 from inside LyX, so I only need to give them an instruction to do
 so.

Nonetheless, we should suport provides fontenc in the layout file.
Actually, this is trivial to implement. Please file an enhancement
request.

 In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
 (ToolsSettings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

 By changing from T1 to OT1, the font problem I faced disappeared so
 users can at least work on LyX. However, it seems the publisher
 requires the fontenc line to be completely removed if the users don't
 use the proprietary mathtime package (the publisher doesn't use LaTeX
 to typeset).

The trick with 1.6 is to enter the string default instead of T1 or
OT1 into the preferences' fontenc widget.

Jürgen

 Thank you again for your help!

 Koji

Re: hyperlink display

[Manveru]

To all it may concern not reading Trac - I've just added following comment:

I would like to enhance this idea with an option to display an small
icon before the text, like WikiMedia does on its pages.

This method my apply to all other small insets, like footnote, label,
etc. Icons may contain tooltips explaining what kind of inset is that,
even short explanation may be useful.

Certainly I understand that displaying such images in LyX text control
may be harder to implement that current mechanism basing on
descriptive texts.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

2010/6/25 Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com:
 I've added an enhancement request:
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6788
 Best,
 -Jose

 Jose Quesada, PhD.
 Max Planck Institute,
 Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
 Berlin
 http://www.josequesada.name/
 http://twitter.com/Quesada


 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de
 wrote:

 On 2010-06-24, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
  Hi,
  The current hyperlink display (at least in the doc classes I've tried)
  is as
  follows:
  [hyperlink: text limited in width]
  Would it be possible to have a more conventional display, eg not having
  the
  word hyperlink preceeding the text, not having the limited width, and
  say
  having it format as underscored blue text? I mean the lyx preview, not
  the
  resulting pdf.

  Yes, it's possible, but someone has to implement it and make it such
  that everyone likes it.

 I'd like to use some Unicodechar instead of a full word for references,
 labels and hyperlinks.

 As there is no one size fits all solution, please make tags
 configurable.

 BTW: there is a workaround for users of LyX in a non-english language:
 configure the translation of these tag names.

 Günter

Re: hyperlink display

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-28, Manveru wrote:
 To all it may concern not reading Trac - I've just added following comment:

 I would like to enhance this idea with an option to display an small
 icon before the text, like WikiMedia does on its pages.

 This method my apply to all other small insets, like footnote, label,
 etc. Icons may contain tooltips explaining what kind of inset is that,
 even short explanation may be useful.

 Certainly I understand that displaying such images in LyX text control
 may be harder to implement that current mechanism basing on
 descriptive texts.

With good Screen font, the simple option is to choose from the rich set
of Unicode symbols. 

Günter

No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[James C. Sutherland]

I just discovered that mouse scrolling does not work in 2.0 alpha 4 on Mac.
Can anyone else confirm?

James

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Mike Martell]

Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.  Thanks so
much!
Mike

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in the document
 doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one of the sections whose spacing
 was inconsistent.

  It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it in
 \makeatletter at the beginning and \makeatother at the end.

 The specific command I suggested won't do what you want. You'll have to
 adjust the spacing and the font commands that format the heading. But you
 should actually be able to get those values from the class file. That is, if
 you have using thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
 something like:


 \newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
{-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus -.2ex}%
{2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
{\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}

 (This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to \...@startsection
 (i)   set the name of the division (section)
 (ii)  set the level in the hierarchy of divisions (so chapter is 0)
 (iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case, using the macro
 \z@)
 (iv)  set the space above the heading
 (v)   set the space below the heading
 (vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the heading; in
 this case, it is large and bold
 As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls rubber lengths and the
 second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if
 necessary to fix page breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
 optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to 0.2exes; the
 minus is a hack that means: suppress the indentation of the first paragraph
 following this heading. So that is why the spacing can be inconsistent:
 LaTeX is being told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
 almost a third.

 What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a \renewcommnd,
 and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the same.

 Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue probably has to do
 with float placement. But we can come back to that.

 Richard




 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Hi:
 I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to submit to the library.
  I'm using a thesis class.  My output has the spacing between text and
 sections, and text and subjections, to vary throughout the dissertation.  I
 need the spacing to be consistent.  After searching the list archive and
 some tutorials, I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my diss, but
 this does not fix the problem.

 Is there a way to fix this?

   This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of page breaking
 require, just as is done in books and articles. If you need it to be
 constant, then do something along the lines of:
\renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
{-3.5ex}{2ex}%
{\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
 The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained here:
http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
 and elsewhere.

 rh

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Mike Martell]

Now LyX is making my spacing inconsistent in places (making it single
instead of double) to keep my section spacing consistent.  Is there a way I
can fix that too?
thanks,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mike Martell martell.m...@american.eduwrote:

 Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.  Thanks so
 much!
 Mike


 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in the document
 doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one of the sections whose spacing
 was inconsistent.

  It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it in
 \makeatletter at the beginning and \makeatother at the end.

 The specific command I suggested won't do what you want. You'll have to
 adjust the spacing and the font commands that format the heading. But you
 should actually be able to get those values from the class file. That is, if
 you have using thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
 something like:


 \newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
{-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus -.2ex}%
{2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
{\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}

 (This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to \...@startsection
 (i)   set the name of the division (section)
 (ii)  set the level in the hierarchy of divisions (so chapter is 0)
 (iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case, using the macro
 \z@)
 (iv)  set the space above the heading
 (v)   set the space below the heading
 (vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the heading; in
 this case, it is large and bold
 As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls rubber lengths and the
 second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if
 necessary to fix page breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
 optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to 0.2exes; the
 minus is a hack that means: suppress the indentation of the first paragraph
 following this heading. So that is why the spacing can be inconsistent:
 LaTeX is being told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
 almost a third.

 What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a \renewcommnd,
 and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the same.

 Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue probably has to do
 with float placement. But we can come back to that.

 Richard




 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

 Hi:
 I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to submit to the
 library.  I'm using a thesis class.  My output has the spacing between text
 and sections, and text and subjections, to vary throughout the 
 dissertation.
  I need the spacing to be consistent.  After searching the list archive and
 some tutorials, I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my diss, but
 this does not fix the problem.

 Is there a way to fix this?

   This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of page
 breaking require, just as is done in books and articles. If you need it to
 be constant, then do something along the lines of:
\renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
{-3.5ex}{2ex}%
{\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
 The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained here:
http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
 and elsewhere.

 rh

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Richard Heck]

On 06/28/2010 10:45 PM, Mike Martell wrote:
Now LyX is making my spacing inconsistent in places (making it single 
instead of double) to keep my section spacing consistent.  Is there a 
way I can fix that too?


Probably, though I don't know how. That said, LaTeX is neither designed 
nor intended for this kind of fine-grained control over spacing.


Probably, the effects you are seeing have to do with float placement. 
Are you trying to force floats to appear in specific places? If so, then 
this can cause all kinds of problems.


rh



thanks,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mike Martell 
martell.m...@american.edu mailto:martell.m...@american.edu wrote:


Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.
 Thanks so much!
Mike


On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net
mailto:rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in
the document doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one
of the sections whose spacing was inconsistent.


It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it
in \makeatletter at the beginning and \makeatother at the end.

The specific command I suggested won't do what you want.
You'll have to adjust the spacing and the font commands that
format the heading. But you should actually be able to get
those values from the class file. That is, if you have using
thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
something like:


\newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
   {-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus
-.2ex}%
   {2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
   {\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}

(This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to
\...@startsection
(i)   set the name of the division (section)
(ii)  set the level in the hierarchy of divisions (so
chapter is 0)
(iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case,
using the macro \z@)
(iv)  set the space above the heading
(v)   set the space below the heading
(vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the
heading; in this case, it is large and bold
As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls rubber
lengths and the second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and
optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if necessary to fix page
breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to
0.2exes; the minus is a hack that means: suppress the
indentation of the first paragraph following this heading. So
that is why the spacing can be inconsistent: LaTeX is being
told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
almost a third.

What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a
\renewcommnd, and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the
same.

Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue
probably has to do with float placement. But we can come back
to that.

Richard





On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck
rgh...@comcast.net mailto:rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

Hi:
I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to
submit to the library.  I'm using a thesis class.  My
output has the spacing between text and sections, and
text and subjections, to vary throughout the
dissertation.  I need the spacing to be consistent.
 After searching the list archive and some tutorials,
I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my
diss, but this does not fix the problem.

Is there a way to fix this?

This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of
page breaking require, just as is done in books and
articles. If you need it to be constant, then do
something along the lines of:
   \renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
   {-3.5ex}{2ex}%
   {\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained
here:
http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
and elsewhere.

rh

Re: Forcing the floats position

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-27, Petr A. Ossipov wrote:
> Hey

> I've got a problem with lyx placing my floats. I now have a subsection, 
> and soon after it a float with image (and also a float with listing). 
> However, after rendering, it places the image before this section, which 
> is undesired. Is there a way to tell lyx that a float must be not before 
> this subsection's title?

flafter is a LaTeX package that ensures that all floats never appear
before the place where they are defined in the LaTeX (or LyX) source.

In the LaTeX preamble, add

  \usepackage{flafter}  

Günter

Re: Forcing the floats position

[Petr A. Osipov]

Thanks!


Guenter Milde wrote:

On 2010-06-27, Petr A. Ossipov wrote:
  

Hey



  
I've got a problem with lyx placing my floats. I now have a subsection, 
and soon after it a float with image (and also a float with listing). 
However, after rendering, it places the image before this section, which 
is undesired. Is there a way to tell lyx that a float must be not before 
this subsection's title?



flafter is a LaTeX package that ensures that all floats never appear
before the place where they are defined in the LaTeX (or LyX) source.

In the LaTeX preamble, add

  \usepackage{flafter}  


Günter
  

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-27, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:11 AM, KYokota  wrote:
>> Are there any ways to remove this preamble? I appreciate very much if
>> anyone could give me any instructions or hints.

> In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document > Fonts > LaTeX
> font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
(Tools>Settings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

Günter

Re: Choice of color package

[Helge Hafting]

On 24. juni 2010 18:56, Artimess wrote:

Hi all,

I am beginning a large document that will have extensive use of colors.
Between color and xcolor which one is better positioned for such
a document.

I do appreciate your feedback and many thanks in advance,


You need to tell more about what you want to do.
LyX has some color support already, maybe you won't need to do anything.

* Colored text is already supported. Mark text, then use
  Edit->Text Style->Customized,
  Then select the color you want in the dialog box.

* Colored images is already supported. Insert->Graphics

* Colored tables can be done, see
  Help->Embedded Objects.

Helge Hafting

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[KYokota]

Liviu and Guenter,

Thank you very much for the information. It helps a lot.

>> In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document > Fonts > LaTeX
>> font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.

I see. 2.0 users can manually control the fontenc line after version
2.0 from inside LyX, so I only need to give them an instruction to do
so.

> In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
> (Tools>Settings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.

By changing from T1 to OT1, the font problem I faced disappeared so
users can at least work on LyX. However, it seems the publisher
requires the fontenc line to be completely removed if the users don't
use the proprietary mathtime package (the publisher doesn't use LaTeX
to typeset). So, I'm going to ask pre-2.0 users to edit exported LaTeX
file with external editors before they submit the manuscripts.

Thank you again for your help!

Koji

Re: Layout file command to remove a default preamble line

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2010/6/28 KYokota:
> Liviu and Guenter,
>
> Thank you very much for the information. It helps a lot.
>
>>> In 2.0 you can specify custom encoding in Document > Fonts > LaTeX
>>> font encoding. Not sure this helps in your case, though.
>
> I see. 2.0 users can manually control the fontenc line after version
> 2.0 from inside LyX, so I only need to give them an instruction to do
> so.

Nonetheless, we should suport "provides fontenc" in the layout file.
Actually, this is trivial to implement. Please file an enhancement
request.

>> In 1.6 (and older), you can globally set the font encoding
>> (Tools>Settings ...). Try with OT1 instead of T1.
>
> By changing from T1 to OT1, the font problem I faced disappeared so
> users can at least work on LyX. However, it seems the publisher
> requires the fontenc line to be completely removed if the users don't
> use the proprietary mathtime package (the publisher doesn't use LaTeX
> to typeset).

The trick with 1.6 is to enter the string "default" instead of T1 or
OT1 into the preferences' fontenc widget.

Jürgen

> Thank you again for your help!
>
> Koji
>

Re: hyperlink display

[Manveru]

To all it may concern not reading Trac - I've just added following comment:

I would like to enhance this idea with an option to display an small
icon before the text, like WikiMedia does on its pages.

This method my apply to all other small insets, like footnote, label,
etc. Icons may contain tooltips explaining what kind of inset is that,
even short explanation may be useful.

Certainly I understand that displaying such images in LyX text control
may be harder to implement that current mechanism basing on
descriptive texts.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

2010/6/25 Jose Quesada :
> I've added an enhancement request:
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6788
> Best,
> -Jose
>
> Jose Quesada, PhD.
> Max Planck Institute,
> Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
> Berlin
> http://www.josequesada.name/
> http://twitter.com/Quesada
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Guenter Milde 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 2010-06-24, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> The current hyperlink display (at least in the doc classes I've tried)
>> >> is as
>> >> follows:
>> >> [hyperlink: text limited in width]
>> >> Would it be possible to have a more conventional display, eg not having
>> >> the
>> >> word hyperlink preceeding the text, not having the limited width, and
>> >> say
>> >> having it format as underscored blue text? I mean the lyx preview, not
>> >> the
>> >> resulting pdf.
>>
>> > Yes, it's possible, but someone has to implement it and make it such
>> > that everyone likes it.
>>
>> I'd like to use some Unicodechar instead of a full word for references,
>> labels and hyperlinks.
>>
>> As there is no "one size fits all" solution, please make "tags"
>> configurable.
>>
>> BTW: there is a workaround for users of LyX in a non-english language:
>> configure the translation of these "tag names".
>>
>> Günter
>>
>
>

Re: hyperlink display

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-06-28, Manveru wrote:
> To all it may concern not reading Trac - I've just added following comment:

> I would like to enhance this idea with an option to display an small
> icon before the text, like WikiMedia does on its pages.

> This method my apply to all other small insets, like footnote, label,
> etc. Icons may contain tooltips explaining what kind of inset is that,
> even short explanation may be useful.

> Certainly I understand that displaying such images in LyX text control
> may be harder to implement that current mechanism basing on
> descriptive texts.

With good Screen font, the simple option is to choose from the rich set
of Unicode symbols. 

Günter

No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[James C. Sutherland]

I just discovered that mouse scrolling does not work in 2.0 alpha 4 on Mac.
Can anyone else confirm?

James

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Mike Martell]

Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.  Thanks so
much!
Mike

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:

>  On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:
>
> Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in the document
> doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one of the sections whose spacing
> was inconsistent.
>
>  It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it in
> "\makeatletter" at the beginning and "\makeatother" at the end.
>
> The specific command I suggested won't do what you want. You'll have to
> adjust the spacing and the font commands that format the heading. But you
> should actually be able to get those values from the class file. That is, if
> you have using thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
> something like:
>
>
> \newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
>{-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus -.2ex}%
>{2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
>{\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}
>
> (This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to \...@startsection
> (i)   set the name of the division (section)
> (ii)  set the "level" in the hierarchy of divisions (so chapter is 0)
> (iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case, using the macro
> \z@)
> (iv)  set the space above the heading
> (v)   set the space below the heading
> (vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the heading; in
> this case, it is large and bold
> As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls "rubber lengths" and the
> second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if
> necessary to fix page breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
> optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to 0.2exes; the
> minus is a hack that means: suppress the indentation of the first paragraph
> following this heading. So that is why the spacing can be inconsistent:
> LaTeX is being told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
> almost a third.
>
> What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a \renewcommnd,
> and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the same.
>
> Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue probably has to do
> with float placement. But we can come back to that.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>
>>  On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>> I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to submit to the library.
>>>  I'm using a thesis class.  My output has the spacing between text and
>>> sections, and text and subjections, to vary throughout the dissertation.  I
>>> need the spacing to be consistent.  After searching the list archive and
>>> some tutorials, I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my diss, but
>>> this does not fix the problem.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to fix this?
>>>
>>>   This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of page breaking
>> require, just as is done in books and articles. If you need it to be
>> constant, then do something along the lines of:
>>\renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
>>{-3.5ex}{2ex}%
>>{\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
>> The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained here:
>>http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
>> and elsewhere.
>>
>> rh
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Mike Martell]

Now LyX is making my spacing inconsistent in places (making it single
instead of double) to keep my section spacing consistent.  Is there a way I
can fix that too?
thanks,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

> Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.  Thanks so
> much!
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>
>>  On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:
>>
>> Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in the document
>> doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one of the sections whose spacing
>> was inconsistent.
>>
>>  It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it in
>> "\makeatletter" at the beginning and "\makeatother" at the end.
>>
>> The specific command I suggested won't do what you want. You'll have to
>> adjust the spacing and the font commands that format the heading. But you
>> should actually be able to get those values from the class file. That is, if
>> you have using thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
>> something like:
>>
>>
>> \newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
>>{-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus -.2ex}%
>>{2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
>>{\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}
>>
>> (This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to \...@startsection
>> (i)   set the name of the division (section)
>> (ii)  set the "level" in the hierarchy of divisions (so chapter is 0)
>> (iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case, using the macro
>> \z@)
>> (iv)  set the space above the heading
>> (v)   set the space below the heading
>> (vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the heading; in
>> this case, it is large and bold
>> As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls "rubber lengths" and the
>> second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if
>> necessary to fix page breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
>> optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to 0.2exes; the
>> minus is a hack that means: suppress the indentation of the first paragraph
>> following this heading. So that is why the spacing can be inconsistent:
>> LaTeX is being told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
>> almost a third.
>>
>> What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a \renewcommnd,
>> and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the same.
>>
>> Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue probably has to do
>> with float placement. But we can come back to that.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>>
>>>  On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:
>>>
 Hi:
 I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to submit to the
 library.  I'm using a thesis class.  My output has the spacing between text
 and sections, and text and subjections, to vary throughout the 
 dissertation.
  I need the spacing to be consistent.  After searching the list archive and
 some tutorials, I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my diss, but
 this does not fix the problem.

 Is there a way to fix this?

   This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of page
>>> breaking require, just as is done in books and articles. If you need it to
>>> be constant, then do something along the lines of:
>>>\renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
>>>{-3.5ex}{2ex}%
>>>{\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
>>> The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained here:
>>>http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
>>> and elsewhere.
>>>
>>> rh
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: spacing between sections changes in my dissertation

[Richard Heck]

On 06/28/2010 10:45 PM, Mike Martell wrote:
Now LyX is making my spacing inconsistent in places (making it single 
instead of double) to keep my section spacing consistent.  Is there a 
way I can fix that too?


Probably, though I don't know how. That said, LaTeX is neither designed 
nor intended for this kind of fine-grained control over spacing.


Probably, the effects you are seeing have to do with float placement. 
Are you trying to force floats to appear in specific places? If so, then 
this can cause all kinds of problems.


rh



thanks,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mike Martell 
> wrote:


Thanks, Richard.  This worked and now my spacing is consistent.
 Thanks so much!
Mike


On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Richard Heck > wrote:

On 6/24/10 10:37 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

Do I place this at the top of the document?  The spacing in
the document doesn't change.  I tried at the top and in one
of the sections whose spacing was inconsistent.


It has to go in the LaTeX preamble. You also have to wrap it
in "\makeatletter" at the beginning and "\makeatother" at the end.

The specific command I suggested won't do what you want.
You'll have to adjust the spacing and the font commands that
format the heading. But you should actually be able to get
those values from the class file. That is, if you have using
thesis.cls, then in that file somewhere you will find
something like:


\newcommand\sectio...@startsection {section}{1}...@}%
   {-3.5ex \...@plus -1ex \...@minus
-.2ex}%
   {2.3ex \...@plus.2ex}%
   {\normalfont\Large\bfseries}}

(This is taken from article.cls.) The six arguments to
\...@startsection
(i)   set the name of the division (section)
(ii)  set the "level" in the hierarchy of divisions (so
chapter is 0)
(iii) set the indent for headings (zero, in this case,
using the macro \z@)
(iv)  set the space above the heading
(v)   set the space below the heading
(vi)  declare any commands that should be used to set the
heading; in this case, it is large and bold
As for (iv) and (v), these are what LaTeX calls "rubber
lengths" and the second means: Add 2.3 exes of space, and
optionally add up to 0.2 exes, if necessary to fix page
breaks, etc. The former means: Add 3.5 exes of space,
optionally adding up to 1 ex and optionally subtracting up to
0.2exes; the minus is a hack that means: suppress the
indentation of the first paragraph following this heading. So
that is why the spacing can be inconsistent: LaTeX is being
told it can alter the spacing before a section heading by
almost a third.

What I did was just copy and paste this command, making it a
\renewcommnd, and then remove the rubber bits. You can do the
same.

Btw, if this doesn't solve the problem, then the issue
probably has to do with float placement. But we can come back
to that.

Richard





On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Richard Heck
> wrote:

On 06/24/2010 09:22 PM, Mike Martell wrote:

Hi:
I'm trying to finish formatting my dissertation to
submit to the library.  I'm using a thesis class.  My
output has the spacing between text and sections, and
text and subjections, to vary throughout the
dissertation.  I need the spacing to be consistent.
 After searching the list archive and some tutorials,
I tried inserting \raggedbottom to the top of my
diss, but this does not fix the problem.

Is there a way to fix this?

This is normal. LaTeX varies the spacing as the needs of
page breaking require, just as is done in books and
articles. If you need it to be constant, then do
something along the lines of:
   \renewcommand\sectio...@startsection{section}{1}{\z@}%
   {-3.5ex}{2ex}%
   {\normlfont\Large\bfseries}%
The semantics of the \...@startsection command are explained
here:
http://help-csli.stanford.edu/tex/latex-sections.shtml
and elsewhere.

rh