Re: Homepage error

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

D.Zorig wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone experienced following by trying to load Lyx homepage?  Or is it
just from where I'm.

*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function news_data() in *
/home/lyx/www/www-user/test/pmwiki/cookbook/LyX/news.php* on line *28*

I wanted to try new LyX 1.5.5.
  

I get the same error. In the meanwhile, you can download from here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/

Re: Homepage error

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

D.Zorig wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone experienced following by trying to load Lyx homepage?  Or is it
just from where I'm.

*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function news_data() in *
/home/lyx/www/www-user/test/pmwiki/cookbook/LyX/news.php* on line *28*

I wanted to try new LyX 1.5.5.
  

I get the same error. In the meanwhile, you can download from here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/

Re: Homepage error

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

D.Zorig wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone experienced following by trying to load Lyx homepage?  Or is it
just from where I'm.

*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function news_data() in *
/home/lyx/www/www-user/test/pmwiki/cookbook/LyX/news.php* on line *28*

I wanted to try new LyX 1.5.5.
  

I get the same error. In the meanwhile, you can download from here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/

Re: Drawing graphs in lyx

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Mael Hilléreau wrote:

Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:27, Robert Orr a écrit :


The easiest thing to do is draw them outside LyX and
then include the image.

However, pstricks package will do what you want.
You can find some examples from the tips and tricks
link on the LyX page.

http://tug.org/PSTricks/main.cgi?file=pst-plot/pst-plotDemo


Maybe Graphviz can do the job as well : http://www.graphviz.org

Mael.


As for drawing actual graphs (i.e. nodes and edges), a good one is yEd: 
http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yed_about.html

Re: Drawing graphs in lyx

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Mael Hilléreau wrote:

Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:27, Robert Orr a écrit :


The easiest thing to do is draw them outside LyX and
then include the image.

However, pstricks package will do what you want.
You can find some examples from the tips and tricks
link on the LyX page.

http://tug.org/PSTricks/main.cgi?file=pst-plot/pst-plotDemo


Maybe Graphviz can do the job as well : http://www.graphviz.org

Mael.


As for drawing actual graphs (i.e. nodes and edges), a good one is yEd: 
http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yed_about.html

Re: Drawing graphs in lyx

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Mael Hilléreau wrote:

Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:27, Robert Orr a écrit :


The easiest thing to do is draw them outside LyX and
then include the image.

However, pstricks package will do what you want.
You can find some examples from the tips and tricks
link on the LyX page.

http://tug.org/PSTricks/main.cgi?file=pst-plot/pst-plotDemo


Maybe Graphviz can do the job as well : http://www.graphviz.org

Mael.


As for drawing actual graphs (i.e. nodes and edges), a good one is yEd: 
http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yed_about.html

Re: Drawing graphs in lyx

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Ola Vestad wrote:
Yeah, I guess I wasn't very clear on that - sorry. I just wanna draw 
some very simple linear demand/supply kind of figures, so all I need 
is some straight lines (and maybe some arrows here and there) and the 
possibility to add names/equations to the different lines.
The solution suggested by Les will probably be slightly too 
complicated for my use (at least for now).


Thank you,
Ola.


On Mac, you can use the following: http://www.graphsketcher.com/

Otherwise, you'd be surprised what you can accomplish with something as 
simple as MS Paint (you can create curves by dragging the lines, and 
fill regions to demonstrate inequalities, etc).


Rex

Re: Drawing graphs in lyx

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Ola Vestad wrote:
Yeah, I guess I wasn't very clear on that - sorry. I just wanna draw 
some very simple linear demand/supply kind of figures, so all I need 
is some straight lines (and maybe some arrows here and there) and the 
possibility to add names/equations to the different lines.
The solution suggested by Les will probably be slightly too 
complicated for my use (at least for now).


Thank you,
Ola.


On Mac, you can use the following: http://www.graphsketcher.com/

Otherwise, you'd be surprised what you can accomplish with something as 
simple as MS Paint (you can create curves by dragging the lines, and 
fill regions to demonstrate inequalities, etc).


Rex

Re: Drawing graphs in lyx

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Ola Vestad wrote:
Yeah, I guess I wasn't very clear on that - sorry. I just wanna draw 
some very simple linear demand/supply kind of figures, so all I need 
is some straight lines (and maybe some arrows here and there) and the 
possibility to add names/equations to the different lines.
The solution suggested by Les will probably be slightly too 
complicated for my use (at least for now).


Thank you,
Ola.


On Mac, you can use the following: http://www.graphsketcher.com/

Otherwise, you'd be surprised what you can accomplish with something as 
simple as MS Paint (you can create curves by dragging the lines, and 
fill regions to demonstrate inequalities, etc).


Rex

Re: Templates, 3d pages graphic, logo ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
The 'pages' are nice. However, I don't like the logo. Too far away from 
the current one...
  

The 'pages' do look nice, but how are they to be used? In a splash screen?



maybe incorporate it into intro picture? i like it too.
pavel
  
I agree. I think those would look nice in the intro picture at 
www.lyx.org/test .

Rex

Re: New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for the feedback, Guenter!

G. Milde wrote:

On 31.03.08, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  
3.  Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About  
LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting.


Of course we should. Also as illustration of the WYSIWYM principle and the
sensible distinction of appearance on screen vs. appearance in print. I
propose PDF as format as this will be viewable by users without
installed TeX system too.
  
I found this on the LyX wiki. Maybe we should make it more prominent 
somehow.


http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Examples

By the way, when you guys click on a .lyx file in your browser, do you 
get a download prompt or does your browser display the LyX source? New 
users might be confused if they see the LyX source and don't know what 
to do with it.


rex

Re: Templates, 3d pages graphic, logo ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
The 'pages' are nice. However, I don't like the logo. Too far away from 
the current one...
  

The 'pages' do look nice, but how are they to be used? In a splash screen?



maybe incorporate it into intro picture? i like it too.
pavel
  
I agree. I think those would look nice in the intro picture at 
www.lyx.org/test .

Rex

Re: New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for the feedback, Guenter!

G. Milde wrote:

On 31.03.08, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  
3.  Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About  
LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting.


Of course we should. Also as illustration of the WYSIWYM principle and the
sensible distinction of appearance on screen vs. appearance in print. I
propose PDF as format as this will be viewable by users without
installed TeX system too.
  
I found this on the LyX wiki. Maybe we should make it more prominent 
somehow.


http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Examples

By the way, when you guys click on a .lyx file in your browser, do you 
get a download prompt or does your browser display the LyX source? New 
users might be confused if they see the LyX source and don't know what 
to do with it.


rex

Re: Templates, 3d pages graphic, logo ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
The 'pages' are nice. However, I don't like the logo. Too far away from 
the current one...
  

The 'pages' do look nice, but how are they to be used? In a splash screen?



maybe incorporate it into intro picture? i like it too.
pavel
  
I agree. I think those would look nice in the intro picture at 
www.lyx.org/test .

Rex

Re: New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for the feedback, Guenter!

G. Milde wrote:

On 31.03.08, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  
3.  Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About  
LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting.


Of course we should. Also as illustration of the WYSIWYM principle and the
sensible distinction of appearance on screen vs. appearance in print. I
propose PDF as format as this will be viewable by users without
installed TeX system too.
  
I found this on the LyX wiki. Maybe we should make it more prominent 
somehow.


http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Examples

By the way, when you guys click on a .lyx file in your browser, do you 
get a download prompt or does your browser display the LyX source? New 
users might be confused if they see the LyX source and don't know what 
to do with it.


rex

Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for the feedback on the site, everyone!

Here are some templates our designer Andrei picked out as possibilities 
for the new website. What do you guys like most out of these (and the 
current one on the site)?


Bright Pixel: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3021
Black Box: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3106
Flowered: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2864
Nautica: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2828

We can probably make some modifications if there's a small thing people 
don't like about a particular design.


If you see something on http://www.oswd.org/ (Open Source Web Design) 
that you like, feel free to suggest that one.


Rex

Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Looks very nice.  I have a few minor suggestions, mostly pertaining to 
the home page:


1.  I would include the word license in the link to the license. 
Currently only Free Software / Open Source is highlighted, so it's 
slightly unclear whether this is a link to the actual license or just 
to a definition of FOSS.


2.  I suggest a direct link to the visual tour, or at least the 
screenshots, in the left margin.  When I'm shopping for software, 
that's usually one of the first things I seek out, and I'll sometimes 
not bother poking around a site if I can't see screenshots early on.


3.  Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About 
LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting.


4.  I suggest that several languages at the bottom of the home page 
link to either the somewhat maligned translation page or just a list 
of currently supported languages.


Overall, I think it's a great job.

/Paul


Paul,

I think those are great suggestions. What do you suggest for the visual 
tour aspect? Just to sum up, currently there is a link on the sidebar 
that says Visual Tour. When the user clicks there, he/she gets links 
to the three different Visual Tour-type things that have been created: 
Screencasts, Screenshots, and Walkthrough. I included one screenshot 
below those links for the instant gratification of visitors. I was 
thinking of just choosing one visual introduction (i.e. the most 
impressive one)  to link to from the sidebar, but then people might not 
ever see the other stuff. What do you think?


By the way, if anyone has or can make a series of screenshots using a 
recent version of LyX, that would be really cool.


Rex

Re: Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for your input, everyone. On second thought, it might be best to 
just stick with the template we have now, since Joost and Christian have 
put a lot of work into getting it to work right. I think the current 
template looks really good.


Rex

Re: Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Joost Verburg wrote:
As I understand it, the consensus is that the current design is much 
better than before and that we will continue to improve it if we 
receive more feedback / suggestions. Is that right Rex / Andrei?

That would be fine with me!

Rex

Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for the feedback on the site, everyone!

Here are some templates our designer Andrei picked out as possibilities 
for the new website. What do you guys like most out of these (and the 
current one on the site)?


Bright Pixel: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3021
Black Box: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3106
Flowered: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2864
Nautica: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2828

We can probably make some modifications if there's a small thing people 
don't like about a particular design.


If you see something on http://www.oswd.org/ (Open Source Web Design) 
that you like, feel free to suggest that one.


Rex

Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Looks very nice.  I have a few minor suggestions, mostly pertaining to 
the home page:


1.  I would include the word license in the link to the license. 
Currently only Free Software / Open Source is highlighted, so it's 
slightly unclear whether this is a link to the actual license or just 
to a definition of FOSS.


2.  I suggest a direct link to the visual tour, or at least the 
screenshots, in the left margin.  When I'm shopping for software, 
that's usually one of the first things I seek out, and I'll sometimes 
not bother poking around a site if I can't see screenshots early on.


3.  Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About 
LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting.


4.  I suggest that several languages at the bottom of the home page 
link to either the somewhat maligned translation page or just a list 
of currently supported languages.


Overall, I think it's a great job.

/Paul


Paul,

I think those are great suggestions. What do you suggest for the visual 
tour aspect? Just to sum up, currently there is a link on the sidebar 
that says Visual Tour. When the user clicks there, he/she gets links 
to the three different Visual Tour-type things that have been created: 
Screencasts, Screenshots, and Walkthrough. I included one screenshot 
below those links for the instant gratification of visitors. I was 
thinking of just choosing one visual introduction (i.e. the most 
impressive one)  to link to from the sidebar, but then people might not 
ever see the other stuff. What do you think?


By the way, if anyone has or can make a series of screenshots using a 
recent version of LyX, that would be really cool.


Rex

Re: Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for your input, everyone. On second thought, it might be best to 
just stick with the template we have now, since Joost and Christian have 
put a lot of work into getting it to work right. I think the current 
template looks really good.


Rex

Re: Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Joost Verburg wrote:
As I understand it, the consensus is that the current design is much 
better than before and that we will continue to improve it if we 
receive more feedback / suggestions. Is that right Rex / Andrei?

That would be fine with me!

Rex

Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for the feedback on the site, everyone!

Here are some templates our designer Andrei picked out as possibilities 
for the new website. What do you guys like most out of these (and the 
current one on the site)?


Bright Pixel: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3021
Black Box: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3106
Flowered: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2864
Nautica: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2828

We can probably make some modifications if there's a small thing people 
don't like about a particular design.


If you see something on http://www.oswd.org/ (Open Source Web Design) 
that you like, feel free to suggest that one.


Rex

Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Looks very nice.  I have a few minor suggestions, mostly pertaining to 
the home page:


1.  I would include the word "license" in the link to the license. 
Currently only "Free Software / Open Source" is highlighted, so it's 
slightly unclear whether this is a link to the actual license or just 
to a definition of FOSS.


2.  I suggest a direct link to the visual tour, or at least the 
screenshots, in the left margin.  When I'm shopping for software, 
that's usually one of the first things I seek out, and I'll sometimes 
not bother poking around a site if I can't see screenshots early on.


3.  Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About 
LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting.


4.  I suggest that "several languages" at the bottom of the home page 
link to either the somewhat maligned translation page or just a list 
of currently supported languages.


Overall, I think it's a great job.

/Paul


Paul,

I think those are great suggestions. What do you suggest for the "visual 
tour" aspect? Just to sum up, currently there is a link on the sidebar 
that says "Visual Tour." When the user clicks there, he/she gets links 
to the three different "Visual Tour"-type things that have been created: 
Screencasts, Screenshots, and Walkthrough. I included one screenshot 
below those links for the instant gratification of visitors. I was 
thinking of just choosing one visual introduction (i.e. the most 
impressive one)  to link to from the sidebar, but then people might not 
ever see the other stuff. What do you think?


By the way, if anyone has or can make a series of screenshots using a 
recent version of LyX, that would be really cool.


Rex

Re: Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Thanks for your input, everyone. On second thought, it might be best to 
just stick with the template we have now, since Joost and Christian have 
put a lot of work into getting it to work right. I think the current 
template looks really good.


Rex

Re: Templates for the new website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Joost Verburg wrote:
As I understand it, the consensus is that the current design is much 
better than before and that we will continue to improve it if we 
receive more feedback / suggestions. Is that right Rex / Andrei?

That would be fine with me!

Rex

New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello all,

For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at:
http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage

We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do 
you all think?


Rex

Re: New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote:


What do you all think?


Rex,

  Sharp as a tack! Very professional and impressive. Kudos to all of you.

Rich

Glad you like it Rich! Christian, Joost, Jean-Marc, Pavel, and others 
were all instrumental in putting this all together.


Rex

New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello all,

For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at:
http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage

We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do 
you all think?


Rex

Re: New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote:


What do you all think?


Rex,

  Sharp as a tack! Very professional and impressive. Kudos to all of you.

Rich

Glad you like it Rich! Christian, Joost, Jean-Marc, Pavel, and others 
were all instrumental in putting this all together.


Rex

New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello all,

For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at:
http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage

We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do 
you all think?


Rex

Re: New LyX website

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote:


What do you all think?


Rex,

  Sharp as a tack! Very professional and impressive. Kudos to all of you.

Rich

Glad you like it Rich! Christian, Joost, Jean-Marc, Pavel, and others 
were all instrumental in putting this all together.


Rex

Re: LyX logo

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Joost Verburg wrote:

rgheck wrote:

For what it's worth, I really like the most recent one.


I've uploaded some more designs to compare (including the current 
splash screen) at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SplashScreen


Joost


They're all really nice; great work!
Rex

Re: LyX logo

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Joost Verburg wrote:

rgheck wrote:

For what it's worth, I really like the most recent one.


I've uploaded some more designs to compare (including the current 
splash screen) at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SplashScreen


Joost


They're all really nice; great work!
Rex

Re: LyX logo

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Joost Verburg wrote:

rgheck wrote:

For what it's worth, I really like the most recent one.


I've uploaded some more designs to compare (including the current 
splash screen) at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SplashScreen


Joost


They're all really nice; great work!
Rex

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's
background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the
subject line to what the discussion seems to be about.

Rex

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  Joost Verburg wrote:
   It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too
   unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to
 quickly
   uninstall things they don't understand.
 
  I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a
  positive way.
 
  Jürgen

 I disagree. You can achieve recognition with the logo, but the background
 color just makes things less readable.

 SteveT

 Steve Litt
 Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Great idea, Christian. I wouldn't have thought of creating a graphical
profile, but it makes total sense. Hopefully Andrei (AK) will have
something to say on this topic.

Rex

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Do LyX have some sort of primary colours?  Or some kind of colour
   theme?  My company spent money on letting a designer come up with a
  colour
   set, where we should try and use a certain combo of colours... Do
  we have
   something like that?
 
  In my opinion a color set should be a part of the new design.
 
  Ok, but less easy... now I remember what it was called, she referred
  to it as the 'graphial profile'. It involved more than just colours,
  also what fonts we should use etc. Anyway, the designer we used
  apparantly spent quite a bit of time thinking this through somehow.. I
  just wonder if we'll be able to come up with something useful. But
  maybe this is were Andrei's expertise comes into play?
 
  According to my gf it's non trival, and apparantly related to
  branding... and we should start with what LyX represents, and what
  its core values are how are we different from the competition...
  sigh, can't we just do development? ;-)

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's
background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the
subject line to what the discussion seems to be about.

Rex

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  Joost Verburg wrote:
   It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too
   unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to
 quickly
   uninstall things they don't understand.
 
  I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a
  positive way.
 
  Jürgen

 I disagree. You can achieve recognition with the logo, but the background
 color just makes things less readable.

 SteveT

 Steve Litt
 Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Great idea, Christian. I wouldn't have thought of creating a graphical
profile, but it makes total sense. Hopefully Andrei (AK) will have
something to say on this topic.

Rex

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Do LyX have some sort of primary colours?  Or some kind of colour
   theme?  My company spent money on letting a designer come up with a
  colour
   set, where we should try and use a certain combo of colours... Do
  we have
   something like that?
 
  In my opinion a color set should be a part of the new design.
 
  Ok, but less easy... now I remember what it was called, she referred
  to it as the 'graphial profile'. It involved more than just colours,
  also what fonts we should use etc. Anyway, the designer we used
  apparantly spent quite a bit of time thinking this through somehow.. I
  just wonder if we'll be able to come up with something useful. But
  maybe this is were Andrei's expertise comes into play?
 
  According to my gf it's non trival, and apparantly related to
  branding... and we should start with what LyX represents, and what
  its core values are how are we different from the competition...
  sigh, can't we just do development? ;-)

Re: LyX canvas color (was: request for screenshots)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Just for the record -- are we now talking about the LyX application's
background/canvas, or the www.lyx.org website background? I changed the
subject line to what the discussion seems to be about.

Rex

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Joost Verburg wrote:
> > > It's more a marketing thing, you don't want your software to look too
> > > unusual at first sight. Just like with websites, people tend to
> quickly
> > > uninstall things they don't understand.
> >
> > I think the background color is something that makes LyX unique in a
> > positive way.
> >
> > Jürgen
>
> I disagree. You can achieve recognition with the logo, but the background
> color just makes things less readable.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> Books written in LyX:
>Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
>Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
>Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
>

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Great idea, Christian. I wouldn't have thought of creating a "graphical
profile", but it makes total sense. Hopefully Andrei (AK) will have
something to say on this topic.

Rex

>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>  Do "LyX" have some sort of "primary" colours?  Or some kind of colour
> >>>  theme?  My company spent money on letting a designer come up with a
> >>> colour
> >>>  set, where we should try and use a certain combo of colours... Do
> >>> we have
> >>>  something like that?
> >>
> >> In my opinion a color set should be a part of the new design.
> >
> > Ok, but less easy... now I remember what it was called, she referred
> > to it as the 'graphial profile'. It involved more than just colours,
> > also what fonts we should use etc. Anyway, the designer we used
> > apparantly spent quite a bit of time thinking this through somehow.. I
> > just wonder if we'll be able to come up with something useful. But
> > maybe this is were Andrei's expertise comes into play?
> >
> > According to my gf it's non trival, and apparantly related to
> > "branding"... and we should start with what LyX represents, and what
> > its core values are how are we different from the competition...
> > sigh, can't we just do development? ;-)
>
>
>
>

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the background within
the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half the people
are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that might
explain some confusion.

rex

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John Coppens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured
   to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors
   hurts my eyes.
 
  But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can
  of course set your own color in the preferences.

 Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each program
 to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
 wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?

 Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
 selection of a default background color, don't they?

 John

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jens Noeckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Wait a minute - weren't we talking about the PDF output... ;)


Ack...I'll summarize my understanding:
(1) I originally sent an email requesting that people send me LyX files,
which I could turn into screenshots of either the LyX editing environment or
the PDF output.
(2) Andre Poenitz followed up with the following email:
Since you are at it: Feel free to make proposals how LyX appearance
might be improved. After all, some (most... all...?) of the visual
appearance of the main LyX canvas looks a bit old-fashioned, too.
(3) Dominik and I followed up by suggesting the pinkish LyX canvas color be
changed.
(4) Discussion shifted to the background color of the website.
(5) Confusion ensued






 On Mar 24, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote:

  haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the
  background within
  the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half
  the people
  are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that
  might
  explain some confusion.
 
  rex
 
  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John Coppens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
  Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-
  coloured
  to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text
  processors
  hurts my eyes.
 
  But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default?
  You can
  of course set your own color in the preferences.
 
  Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each
  program
  to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
  wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?
 
  Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
  selection of a default background color, don't they?
 
  John
 

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Glad to have you on the list, Andrei.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John Coppens wrote:
  On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
  Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured
  to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors
  hurts my eyes.
 
  But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can
  of course set your own color in the preferences.
 
 
  Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each
 program
  to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
  wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?
 
  Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
  selection of a default background color, don't they?
 
  John
 
 
 This is probably not a very good idea in practice because the site will
 stand out as looking incredibly
 ugly on linux where some browsers (don't remember which ones) will show
 a very unsightly medium gray background
 if no background is specified. Since vast majority of sites do specify a
 background, to the user this
 will look like the site is badly misdesigned. In windows browsers show
 white background if none is
 specified.

 However, at least in Opera (the browser that I use most often),
 you can specify your custom css style sheet to define your background
 that will override default
 background. FF probably has a setting somewhere that will let you do
 this, too. AFAIK no browsers
 let you set them to use some color if no background is set but will show
 document's color if it is set -
 but I could be wrong about this.

 By the way, I'm the designer working with Rex on this.

 --
  -ak
  Tobu | http://www.lightbird.net/tobu/ | Freeform DB / Tagger / PIM

Re: Temporary change to website background (was: Website re-design ideas)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

It looks like we will be creating a whole new design soon, but as a
temporary solution that looks like an improvement to me.

Rex

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:

  I also think the LyX.org site is OK except for the background and the
  white text... changing that alone could make a huge difference. I
 
  we have fix for this long time, but nobody on dev list commented the
  design so i let it die. 
  http://195.113.31.123/~sanda/junk/lyx/www/http://195.113.31.123/%7Esanda/junk/lyx/www/

 It's an improvement in my eyes at least, I'd be fine with you committing
 it. Are there anyone that objects?  (It might take a little while for Rex
 to come up with something, and if all you have to do is a commit...)

 /Christian

 --
 Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44
 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr http://www.md.kth.se/%7Echr

Re: LyX logo

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Since we are discussing design issues, and we have a graphic designer
on board (Andrei), it seems a logical time to bring up the topic of
logo design that was discussed a bit earlier this month. I am
attaching some of the graphic designs that were proposed last time.
Andrei is a creative guy and could could probably design something
nice if we give him our input, even if it would just be a modification
to the existing monster/bird/? design. What do you all think?
attachment: LyX-icone.jpgattachment: LyX-document.jpgattachment: LyX-doc-monster-128.jpgattachment: LyX-Monster.jpgattachment: banner.jpg

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the background within
the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half the people
are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that might
explain some confusion.

rex

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John Coppens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
 Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured
   to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors
   hurts my eyes.
 
  But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can
  of course set your own color in the preferences.

 Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each program
 to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
 wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?

 Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
 selection of a default background color, don't they?

 John

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jens Noeckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Wait a minute - weren't we talking about the PDF output... ;)


Ack...I'll summarize my understanding:
(1) I originally sent an email requesting that people send me LyX files,
which I could turn into screenshots of either the LyX editing environment or
the PDF output.
(2) Andre Poenitz followed up with the following email:
Since you are at it: Feel free to make proposals how LyX appearance
might be improved. After all, some (most... all...?) of the visual
appearance of the main LyX canvas looks a bit old-fashioned, too.
(3) Dominik and I followed up by suggesting the pinkish LyX canvas color be
changed.
(4) Discussion shifted to the background color of the website.
(5) Confusion ensued






 On Mar 24, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote:

  haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the
  background within
  the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half
  the people
  are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that
  might
  explain some confusion.
 
  rex
 
  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John Coppens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
  Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-
  coloured
  to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text
  processors
  hurts my eyes.
 
  But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default?
  You can
  of course set your own color in the preferences.
 
  Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each
  program
  to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
  wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?
 
  Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
  selection of a default background color, don't they?
 
  John
 

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Glad to have you on the list, Andrei.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John Coppens wrote:
  On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
  Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured
  to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors
  hurts my eyes.
 
  But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can
  of course set your own color in the preferences.
 
 
  Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each
 program
  to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
  wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?
 
  Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
  selection of a default background color, don't they?
 
  John
 
 
 This is probably not a very good idea in practice because the site will
 stand out as looking incredibly
 ugly on linux where some browsers (don't remember which ones) will show
 a very unsightly medium gray background
 if no background is specified. Since vast majority of sites do specify a
 background, to the user this
 will look like the site is badly misdesigned. In windows browsers show
 white background if none is
 specified.

 However, at least in Opera (the browser that I use most often),
 you can specify your custom css style sheet to define your background
 that will override default
 background. FF probably has a setting somewhere that will let you do
 this, too. AFAIK no browsers
 let you set them to use some color if no background is set but will show
 document's color if it is set -
 but I could be wrong about this.

 By the way, I'm the designer working with Rex on this.

 --
  -ak
  Tobu | http://www.lightbird.net/tobu/ | Freeform DB / Tagger / PIM

Re: Temporary change to website background (was: Website re-design ideas)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

It looks like we will be creating a whole new design soon, but as a
temporary solution that looks like an improvement to me.

Rex

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:

  I also think the LyX.org site is OK except for the background and the
  white text... changing that alone could make a huge difference. I
 
  we have fix for this long time, but nobody on dev list commented the
  design so i let it die. 
  http://195.113.31.123/~sanda/junk/lyx/www/http://195.113.31.123/%7Esanda/junk/lyx/www/

 It's an improvement in my eyes at least, I'd be fine with you committing
 it. Are there anyone that objects?  (It might take a little while for Rex
 to come up with something, and if all you have to do is a commit...)

 /Christian

 --
 Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44
 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr http://www.md.kth.se/%7Echr

Re: LyX logo

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Since we are discussing design issues, and we have a graphic designer
on board (Andrei), it seems a logical time to bring up the topic of
logo design that was discussed a bit earlier this month. I am
attaching some of the graphic designs that were proposed last time.
Andrei is a creative guy and could could probably design something
nice if we give him our input, even if it would just be a modification
to the existing monster/bird/? design. What do you all think?
attachment: LyX-icone.jpgattachment: LyX-document.jpgattachment: LyX-doc-monster-128.jpgattachment: LyX-Monster.jpgattachment: banner.jpg

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the background within
the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half the people
are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that might
explain some confusion.

rex

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John Coppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
> Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured
> > > to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors
> > > hurts my eyes.
> >
> > But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can
> > of course set your own color in the preferences.
>
> Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each program
> to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
> wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?
>
> Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
> selection of a default background color, don't they?
>
> John
>

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jens Noeckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Wait a minute - weren't we talking about the PDF output... ;)
>

Ack...I'll summarize my understanding:
(1) I originally sent an email requesting that people send me LyX files,
which I could turn into screenshots of either the LyX editing environment or
the PDF output.
(2) Andre Poenitz followed up with the following email:
"Since you are at it: Feel free to make proposals how LyX appearance
might be improved. After all, some (most... all...?) of the visual
appearance of the main LyX canvas looks a bit old-fashioned, too."
(3) Dominik and I followed up by suggesting the pinkish LyX canvas color be
changed.
(4) Discussion shifted to the background color of the website.
(5) Confusion ensued




>
>
> On Mar 24, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote:
>
> > haha...it looks like half the people are talking about the
> > background within
> > the program *LyX* (i.e. the pinkish background canvas), and half
> > the people
> > are referring to the background of the website, www.lyx.org. that
> > might
> > explain some confusion.
> >
> > rex
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, John Coppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
> >> Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-
> >>>> coloured
> >>>> to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text
> >>>> processors
> >>>> hurts my eyes.
> >>>
> >>> But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default?
> >>> You can
> >>> of course set your own color in the preferences.
> >>
> >> Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each
> >> program
> >> to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
> >> wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?
> >>
> >> Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
> >> selection of a default background color, don't they?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
>
>

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Glad to have you on the list, Andrei.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, AK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Coppens wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:36 +0100
> > Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> FWIW, I prefer the current color as much as I prefer creamy-coloured
> >>> to bright-white paper. The white background of usual text processors
> >>> hurts my eyes.
> >>>
> >> But would you be opposed to having the usual colors as default? You can
> >> of course set your own color in the preferences.
> >>
> >
> > Again, FWIW, I _hate_ white backgrounds, and spend time with each
> program
> > to figure out how I can reprogram it to something more 'quiet'. Ever
> > wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?
> >
> > Why not leave the page background undefined? Most browsers allow
> > selection of a default background color, don't they?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> This is probably not a very good idea in practice because the site will
> stand out as looking incredibly
> ugly on linux where some browsers (don't remember which ones) will show
> a very unsightly medium gray background
> if no background is specified. Since vast majority of sites do specify a
> background, to the user this
> will look like the site is badly misdesigned. In windows browsers show
> white background if none is
> specified.
>
> However, at least in Opera (the browser that I use most often),
> you can specify your custom css style sheet to define your background
> that will override default
> background. FF probably has a setting somewhere that will let you do
> this, too. AFAIK no browsers
> let you set them to use some color if no background is set but will show
> document's color if it is set -
> but I could be wrong about this.
>
> By the way, I'm the designer working with Rex on this.
>
> --
>  -ak
>  Tobu | http://www.lightbird.net/tobu/ | Freeform DB / Tagger / PIM
>
>

Re: Temporary change to website background (was: Website re-design ideas)

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

It looks like we will be creating a whole new design soon, but as a
temporary solution that looks like an improvement to me.

Rex

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>
> >> I also think the LyX.org site is OK except for the background and the
> >> white text... changing that alone could make a huge difference. I
> >
> > we have fix for this long time, but nobody on dev list commented the
> > design so i let it die. 
> > http://195.113.31.123/~sanda/junk/lyx/www/
>
> It's an improvement in my eyes at least, I'd be fine with you committing
> it. Are there anyone that objects?  (It might take a little while for Rex
> to come up with something, and if all you have to do is a commit...)
>
> /Christian
>
> --
> Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44
> http://www.md.kth.se/~chr 
>

Re: LyX logo

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Since we are discussing design issues, and we have a graphic designer
on board (Andrei), it seems a logical time to bring up the topic of
logo design that was discussed a bit earlier this month. I am
attaching some of the graphic designs that were proposed last time.
Andrei is a creative guy and could could probably design something
nice if we give him our input, even if it would just be a modification
to the existing monster/bird/? design. What do you all think?
<><><><><>

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

 Would you like people to send them to you directly? It might help if you
 gave some specific list of the kind of screenshots you'd like, at least as a
 starter.

 Best regards,
 /Christian


Right. It would be best if you sent them to me directly.

Format: I think it would be most useful if people sent me the work in .lyx
files. That way, I could decide whether to show the PDF output (to show
people what the final product looks like) or to show the internal works if
LyX (so people can see the intricacies of the editing environment). You
don't have to send the entire original LyX file; you can just send a LyX
file with the bit that would be relevant to the screenshot.

Specific requests: anything that showcases cool things you can do in LyX.
Some of my ideas:
-Complex math structures (equation arrays, cool equations, matrices, etc)
-Tables, figures,...
-Cross-references, bibliography stuff
-LyX comments, ERT, etc.
-Syntax highlighted code/algorithms
-Different types of documents: mathematical proofs/
-Something in a different language

Feel free to add onto this.

Rex

Re: UI changes

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Whoops, didn't reply all:

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 -Personally, I would change the default background color from pink to some
 other color -- white, light grey, light blue, ...
 -When I first inserted TeX code, I found the label ERT confusing, since
 I didn't know what it meant. (However, it is a pretty funny label.)

 Rex

 On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Andre Poenitz 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  Since you are at it: Feel free to make proposals how LyX appearance
  might be improved. After all, some (most... all...?) of the visual
  appearance of the main LyX canvas looks a bit old-fashioned, too.
 
  Andre'
 

Fix to quality of screencasts

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello,

Important note for anyone making flash screencasts using Wink: when you
upload to the Wiki, make sure to upload not just the SWF file, but also the
.htm file and .js file that Wink generates. Then link to the .htm file. This
should improve the video quality.

For example, compare the quality the following two screencasts, both of
which use the exact same swf:

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyXIntroPalette.htm
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyXIntroPalette.swf

At least in my browser, the second one looks much grainier.

I think the explanation is here:
http://www.debugmode.com/userforums/viewtopic.php?t=1207highlight=htm++quality

I'll add these instructions to the wiki page.

Rex

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

 Would you like people to send them to you directly? It might help if you
 gave some specific list of the kind of screenshots you'd like, at least as a
 starter.

 Best regards,
 /Christian


Right. It would be best if you sent them to me directly.

Format: I think it would be most useful if people sent me the work in .lyx
files. That way, I could decide whether to show the PDF output (to show
people what the final product looks like) or to show the internal works if
LyX (so people can see the intricacies of the editing environment). You
don't have to send the entire original LyX file; you can just send a LyX
file with the bit that would be relevant to the screenshot.

Specific requests: anything that showcases cool things you can do in LyX.
Some of my ideas:
-Complex math structures (equation arrays, cool equations, matrices, etc)
-Tables, figures,...
-Cross-references, bibliography stuff
-LyX comments, ERT, etc.
-Syntax highlighted code/algorithms
-Different types of documents: mathematical proofs/
-Something in a different language

Feel free to add onto this.

Rex

Re: UI changes

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Whoops, didn't reply all:

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 -Personally, I would change the default background color from pink to some
 other color -- white, light grey, light blue, ...
 -When I first inserted TeX code, I found the label ERT confusing, since
 I didn't know what it meant. (However, it is a pretty funny label.)

 Rex

 On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Andre Poenitz 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  Since you are at it: Feel free to make proposals how LyX appearance
  might be improved. After all, some (most... all...?) of the visual
  appearance of the main LyX canvas looks a bit old-fashioned, too.
 
  Andre'
 

Fix to quality of screencasts

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello,

Important note for anyone making flash screencasts using Wink: when you
upload to the Wiki, make sure to upload not just the SWF file, but also the
.htm file and .js file that Wink generates. Then link to the .htm file. This
should improve the video quality.

For example, compare the quality the following two screencasts, both of
which use the exact same swf:

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyXIntroPalette.htm
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyXIntroPalette.swf

At least in my browser, the second one looks much grainier.

I think the explanation is here:
http://www.debugmode.com/userforums/viewtopic.php?t=1207highlight=htm++quality

I'll add these instructions to the wiki page.

Rex

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

>
> Would you like people to send them to you directly? It might help if you
> gave some specific list of the kind of screenshots you'd like, at least as a
> starter.
>
> Best regards,
> /Christian


Right. It would be best if you sent them to me directly.

Format: I think it would be most useful if people sent me the work in .lyx
files. That way, I could decide whether to show the PDF output (to show
people what the final product looks like) or to show the internal works if
LyX (so people can see the intricacies of the editing environment). You
don't have to send the entire original LyX file; you can just send a LyX
file with the bit that would be relevant to the screenshot.

Specific requests: anything that showcases cool things you can do in LyX.
Some of my ideas:
-Complex math structures (equation arrays, cool equations, matrices, etc)
-Tables, figures,...
-Cross-references, bibliography stuff
-LyX comments, ERT, etc.
-Syntax highlighted code/algorithms
-Different types of documents: mathematical proofs/
-Something in a different language

Feel free to add onto this.

Rex

Re: UI changes

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Whoops, didn't reply all:

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Rex C. Eastbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> -Personally, I would change the default background color from pink to some
> other color -- white, light grey, light blue, ...
> -When I first inserted TeX code, I found the label "ERT" confusing, since
> I didn't know what it meant. (However, it is a pretty funny label.)
>
> Rex
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Andre Poenitz <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Since you are at it: Feel free to make proposals how LyX appearance
> > might be improved. After all, some (most... all...?) of the visual
> > appearance of the main LyX canvas looks a bit old-fashioned, too.
> >
> > Andre'
> >
>
>

Fix to quality of screencasts

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello,

Important note for anyone making flash screencasts using Wink: when you
upload to the Wiki, make sure to upload not just the SWF file, but also the
.htm file and .js file that Wink generates. Then link to the .htm file. This
should improve the video quality.

For example, compare the quality the following two screencasts, both of
which use the exact same swf:

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyXIntroPalette.htm
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyXIntroPalette.swf

At least in my browser, the second one looks much grainier.

I think the explanation is here:
http://www.debugmode.com/userforums/viewtopic.php?t=1207=htm++quality

I'll add these instructions to the wiki page.

Rex

Website re-design ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello all,

Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to the look and
feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what people
think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with designs
that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design style. So
that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design style would
look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://www.python.org/
http://www.scipy.org/
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
designed, please let us know!

Rex

Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello,

Depending on our final website design, I think it might be nice to include
couple of small image snippets of what LyX looks like on the front page. I
like the way the following site has several images of the software in
action: http://www.r-project.org/

It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the lines
of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some
functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name
it). especially if you have a nice, beautiful equation to send in :)

Send 'em over!

Rex
attachment: LyX snip.PNG

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

P.S.: It would also be nice to have snapshots of the PDF output as well,
since that might be more appropriate to put on the front page of the site.
So please send in those too if you can. See attached example.

Thanks,

Rex

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello,

 Depending on our final website design, I think it might be nice to include
 couple of small image snippets of what LyX looks like on the front page. I
 like the way the following site has several images of the software in
 action: http://www.r-project.org/

 It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the
 lines of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some
 functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name
 it). especially if you have a nice, beautiful equation to send in :)

 Send 'em over!

 Rex


attachment: LyX PDF snip.PNG

Website re-design ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello all,

Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to the look and
feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what people
think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with designs
that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design style. So
that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design style would
look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://www.python.org/
http://www.scipy.org/
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
designed, please let us know!

Rex

Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello,

Depending on our final website design, I think it might be nice to include
couple of small image snippets of what LyX looks like on the front page. I
like the way the following site has several images of the software in
action: http://www.r-project.org/

It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the lines
of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some
functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name
it). especially if you have a nice, beautiful equation to send in :)

Send 'em over!

Rex
attachment: LyX snip.PNG

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

P.S.: It would also be nice to have snapshots of the PDF output as well,
since that might be more appropriate to put on the front page of the site.
So please send in those too if you can. See attached example.

Thanks,

Rex

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello,

 Depending on our final website design, I think it might be nice to include
 couple of small image snippets of what LyX looks like on the front page. I
 like the way the following site has several images of the software in
 action: http://www.r-project.org/

 It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the
 lines of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some
 functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name
 it). especially if you have a nice, beautiful equation to send in :)

 Send 'em over!

 Rex


attachment: LyX PDF snip.PNG

Website re-design ideas

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello all,

Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to the look and
feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what people
think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with designs
that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design style. So
that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design style would
look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://www.python.org/
http://www.scipy.org/
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
designed, please let us know!

Rex

Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

Hello,

Depending on our final website design, I think it might be nice to include
couple of small image snippets of what LyX looks like on the front page. I
like the way the following site has several images of the software in
action: http://www.r-project.org/

It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the lines
of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some
functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name
it). especially if you have a nice, beautiful equation to send in :)

Send 'em over!

Rex
<>

Re: Request for screenshots

[Rex C. Eastbourne]

P.S.: It would also be nice to have snapshots of the PDF output as well,
since that might be more appropriate to put on the front page of the site.
So please send in those too if you can. See attached example.

Thanks,

Rex

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Rex C. Eastbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Depending on our final website design, I think it might be nice to include
> couple of small image snippets of what LyX looks like on the front page. I
> like the way the following site has several images of the software in
> action: http://www.r-project.org/
>
> It would be great if some people could send in some images, along the
> lines of the attached image, that are nice graphical demonstrations of some
> functionality of LyX (equations, images, references, bibliography, you name
> it). especially if you have a nice, beautiful equation to send in :)
>
> Send 'em over!
>
> Rex
>
>
<>