EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
Hi, Running: Windows XP, EndNote X1 I'm trying to export from EndNote to BibTeX format using their output style file. The most recent BibTeX output style can be found here: http://www.endnote.com/support/enstyledetail.asp?SORT=0&PAGE=3&METH=0&DISC=none&JOUR=none&BSRT=none&FF1=none&FF2=none&FF3=none&CITE=none&DKEY=714200664457JBA When I import it into LyX I point it to the exported .bib file but when I try to add a citation there are no records to choose from. Anyone else encountered this problem? Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, Ed Sykes -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/EndNote-X1-BibTeX-output-and-LyX-tp17636893p17636893.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
Dear Ed: Your problem is easy to solve. Be not afraid! You need to add a label to each reference in Endnote; afterwards, export it to a Bibtex file. When you enter Endnote, open a reference in your Endnote library. Scroll down and you will see a field titled "Label." The label will become the Bibtex key in your .bib file when you export to the .bib file. The Bibtex key is important because it is the reference's unique identifier. Without it, the .bib entry for a particular reference is incomplete and unrecognizable for processing. For a reference like Nahm, A.C. (1996). Korea: Tradition & Transformation, Seoul, Hollym International Corp. I would make the label Nahm1996 (no spaces). Unfortunately, you will have to make labels for the entire library you want to export. This can be time consuming; however, you will get into the habit of entering a label when you enter new references to Endnote in the future. If you plan to export references from Endnote to Bibtex format often, then I recommend that you make your the label field display in your Endnote library window. You can adjust this in Endnote's settings. Be careful with prolific writers that publish more than once in the same year. Expanding my example above, I would make these types of labels like the following: Nahm1996a, Nahm1996b, Nahm1996c, etc. After you have made all of your labels, export the library and you will see all of the references. Try exporting one reference in the manner I have described and you will understand how it works. This took me several hours to figure out on my own. I had nobody to help me and the documentation was scarce, but I am glad to help you. Peace be with you and good luck! Sincerely, Jeremy M. Kritt Seoul National University of Technology Seoul, South Korea On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Ed Sykes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Running: Windows XP, EndNote X1 > I'm trying to export from EndNote to BibTeX format using their output style > file. > > The most recent BibTeX output style can be found here: > > http://www.endnote.com/support/enstyledetail.asp?SORT=0&PAGE=3&METH=0&DISC=none&JOUR=none&BSRT=none&FF1=none&FF2=none&FF3=none&CITE=none&DKEY=714200664457JBA > > When I import it into LyX I point it to the exported .bib file but when I > try to add a citation there are no records to choose from. > > Anyone else encountered this problem? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Cheers, > Ed Sykes > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/EndNote-X1-BibTeX-output-and-LyX-tp17636893p17636893.html > Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 10:50:01 pm Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > Dear Ed: > > Your problem is easy to solve. Be not afraid! You need to add a label to > each reference in Endnote; afterwards, export it to a Bibtex file. > > When you enter Endnote, open a reference in your Endnote library. Scroll > down and you will see a field titled "Label." The label will become the > Bibtex key in your .bib file when you export to the .bib file. The Bibtex > key is important because it is the reference's unique identifier. Without > it, the .bib entry for a particular reference is incomplete and > unrecognizable for processing. > > For a reference like Nahm, A.C. (1996). Korea: Tradition & Transformation, > Seoul, Hollym International Corp. I would make the label Nahm1996 (no > spaces). > > Unfortunately, you will have to make labels for the entire library you want > to export. This can be time consuming; however, you will get into the habit > of entering a label when you enter new references to Endnote in the future. If you have many references stored in Endnote, a more economical solution is to rely on one of the many freely available BibTeX reference managers. Many of them will import key-less references and then will give you the option to generate keys automatically for the whole library. BibDesk (Macintosh only) does it almost automatically. JabRef (written in Java) offers it as an option. Cheers, Stefano -- __ Stefano Franchi Department of Philosophy Ph: (979) 862-2211 University of Texas A&M Fax: (979) 845-0458 305B Bolton Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] College Station, TX 77843-4237
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
Ed, Although some programs may automatically generate keys, it is advisable (in my opinion) to create your own keys in order to easily remember what they refer to. I sometimes use Jabref and I have never been able to get the program to automatically generate keys for me. If Endnote is your primary reference manager (perhaps, because you use MS Word more often than Lyx), it only costs you 15 seconds to type in a key that will allow you to export to Bibtex format with whenever you want. When you first start, it may take time to add the missing labels in Endnote; however, after that, you just add a label when you enter in new references. I am running Lyx in Windows and I use Endnote as my primary reference manager for a variety of reasons. Running Lyx in Windows means that it is impossible to push references from JabRef to Lyx. In other words, I must choose references through the native Bibtex support menu options. All I see are Bibtex keys in Lyx to make my reference citation selections. It seems that the way one chooses to organize things for export from Endnote to Bibtex format depends on your system configuration and how your have your materials organized. Respectfully, I do not believe there is one way to "economically" do it. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Jeremy M. Kritt Seoul National University of Technology Seoul, South Korea. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Stefano Franchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 03 June 2008 10:50:01 pm Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > > Dear Ed: > > > > Your problem is easy to solve. Be not afraid! You need to add a label to > > each reference in Endnote; afterwards, export it to a Bibtex file. > > > > When you enter Endnote, open a reference in your Endnote library. Scroll > > down and you will see a field titled "Label." The label will become the > > Bibtex key in your .bib file when you export to the .bib file. The Bibtex > > key is important because it is the reference's unique identifier. Without > > it, the .bib entry for a particular reference is incomplete and > > unrecognizable for processing. > > > > For a reference like Nahm, A.C. (1996). Korea: Tradition & > Transformation, > > Seoul, Hollym International Corp. I would make the label Nahm1996 (no > > spaces). > > > > Unfortunately, you will have to make labels for the entire library you > want > > to export. This can be time consuming; however, you will get into the > habit > > of entering a label when you enter new references to Endnote in the > future. > > If you have many references stored in Endnote, a more economical solution > is > to rely on one of the many freely available BibTeX reference managers. Many > of them will import key-less references and then will give you the option > to generate keys automatically for the whole library. BibDesk (Macintosh > only) does it almost automatically. JabRef (written in Java) offers it as > an > option. > > Cheers, > > Stefano > > > -- > __ > Stefano Franchi > Department of Philosophy Ph: (979) 862-2211 > University of Texas A&M Fax: (979) 845-0458 > 305B Bolton Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] > College Station, TX 77843-4237 >
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
Ed, Although some programs may automatically generate keys, it is advisable (in my opinion) to create your own keys in order to easily remember what they refer to. I sometimes use Jabref and I have never been able to get the program to automatically generate keys for me. If Endnote is your primary reference manager (perhaps, because you use MS Word more often than Lyx), it only costs you 15 seconds to type in a key that will allow you to export to Bibtex format with whenever you want. When you first start, it may take time to add the missing labels in Endnote; however, after that, you just add a label when you enter in new reference. I am running Lyx in Windows and I use Endnote as my primary reference manager for a variety of reasons. Running Lyx in Windows means that it is impossible to push references from JabRef to Lyx. In other words, I must choose references through the native Bibtex support menu options. All I see are Bibtex keys in Lyx to make my reference citation selections. It seems that the way one chooses to organize things for export from Endnote to Bibtex format depends on your system configuration and how you have your materials organized. Respectfully, I do not believe there is one way to "economically" do it. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Jeremy M. Kritt Seoul National University of Technology Seoul, South Korea. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Stefano Franchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 03 June 2008 10:50:01 pm Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > > Dear Ed: > > > > Your problem is easy to solve. Be not afraid! You need to add a label to > > each reference in Endnote; afterwards, export it to a Bibtex file. > > > > When you enter Endnote, open a reference in your Endnote library. Scroll > > down and you will see a field titled "Label." The label will become the > > Bibtex key in your .bib file when you export to the .bib file. The Bibtex > > key is important because it is the reference's unique identifier. Without > > it, the .bib entry for a particular reference is incomplete and > > unrecognizable for processing. > > > > For a reference like Nahm, A.C. (1996). Korea: Tradition & > Transformation, > > Seoul, Hollym International Corp. I would make the label Nahm1996 (no > > spaces). > > > > Unfortunately, you will have to make labels for the entire library you > want > > to export. This can be time consuming; however, you will get into the > habit > > of entering a label when you enter new references to Endnote in the > future. > > If you have many references stored in Endnote, a more economical solution > is > to rely on one of the many freely available BibTeX reference managers. Many > of them will import key-less references and then will give you the option > to generate keys automatically for the whole library. BibDesk (Macintosh > only) does it almost automatically. JabRef (written in Java) offers it as > an > option. > > Cheers, > > Stefano > > > -- > __ > Stefano Franchi > Department of Philosophy Ph: (979) 862-2211 > University of Texas A&M Fax: (979) 845-0458 > 305B Bolton Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] > College Station, TX 77843-4237 > -- Jeremy M. Kritt Seoul National University of Technology, The Language Center 138 Gongreung-gil, Nowon-gu, Seoul, 139-743 Republic of Korea Int'l Phone #: +82-10-3337-9977 Korean Phone#: 010-3337-9977 The information contained in and transmitted with this email message is PRIVILEGED AND/OR CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended only for the individual or entity designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of or reliance on the information contained in and transmitted with this email message by or to anyone other than the recipient designated above is unauthorized and is strictly prohibited. If you are not the named recipient of this email message or have otherwise received this email message in error, please delete the message immediately and notify the sender immediately via return email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unauthorized interception or use of this email or the information contained therein may be a violation of law.
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
On 4.06.08, Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > Although some programs may automatically generate keys, it is advisable (in > my opinion) to create your own keys in order to easily remember what they > refer to. My opinion differs, as I see the benefit of a key/label generated according to a memorizable rule especially for large and growing databases. At some stage I even used BibTool to "normalize" existing labels in a large .bib file. GM
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
My main point was -- If you are using Endnote as your main database, then it might be better to create your own label (=Bibtex key) in Endnote according to a pattern that you can recognize. Hence, my prolific author example in my original post. In the end, however, I think it really depends how you have set things up and your patterns of usage. The problem with automatic key generation, in my opinion, is that it might create a patter that does not make sense for the way you conceptualize your database. Is this not what you are saying? In the end, you have to use what works for you. Although, it is good that we are all sharing our opinions in order to get an idea about what others are doing. Everyone benefits from that type of discussion. Peace, Jeremy M. Kritt Seoul National University of Technology Seoul, South Korea. On 6/4/08, G. Milde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4.06.08, Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > > > Although some programs may automatically generate keys, it is advisable > (in > > my opinion) to create your own keys in order to easily remember what they > > refer to. > > My opinion differs, as I see the benefit of a key/label generated according > to a memorizable rule especially for large and growing databases. > > At some stage I even used BibTool to "normalize" existing labels in a large > .bib file. > > GM > -- Jeremy M. Kritt Seoul National University of Technology, The Language Center 138 Gongreung-gil, Nowon-gu, Seoul, 139-743 Republic of Korea Int'l Phone #: +82-10-3337-9977 Korean Phone#: 010-3337-9977 The information contained in and transmitted with this email message is PRIVILEGED AND/OR CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended only for the individual or entity designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of or reliance on the information contained in and transmitted with this email message by or to anyone other than the recipient designated above is unauthorized and is strictly prohibited. If you are not the named recipient of this email message or have otherwise received this email message in error, please delete the message immediately and notify the sender immediately via return email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unauthorized interception or use of this email or the information contained therein may be a violation of law.
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
On 4.06.08, Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > My main point was -- If you are using Endnote as your main database, then it > might be better to create your own label (=Bibtex key) in Endnote according > to a pattern that you can recognize. Agreed. > The problem with automatic key generation, in my opinion, is that it > might create a patter that does not make sense for the way you > conceptualize your database. Is this not what you are saying? I wanted to point out that there are tools (e.g. the BibTools program) that allow the (re)creation of bibtex keys in a user-specified format, [,,...]:, say. While requiring extensive reading of the manual in order to find out how to specify the format, for a large database this might be less effort than creating all the missing labels by hand. OTOH, for 20 or so entries it might be simpler to do this manually. > In the end, you have to use what works for you. That's it. GM
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
JabRef is highly customizable as far as the key generation is concerned. The examples given by Jeremy ( Nahm1996 or Nahm1996a ... ) are in fact JabRef's default. You can describe your pattern with markers like [auth:lower] if you want the name of the first author all in lowercase. There are more than twenty such markers to be used for customization. And finally, you can edit the generated key if in a special case the generated key is not appropriate. Siegfried.
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: My main point was -- If you are using Endnote as your main database, then it might be better to create your own label (=Bibtex key) in Endnote according to a pattern that you can recognize. Hence, my prolific author example in my original post. In the end, however, I think it really depends how you have set things up and your patterns of usage. The problem with automatic key generation, in my opinion, is that it might create a patter that does not make sense for the way you conceptualize your database. Is this not what you are saying? JabRef, at least, let's you customize this pattern. There's a simple GUI for doing it. rh
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:22 PM, rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > >> My main point was -- If you are using Endnote as your main database, then >> it >> might be better to create your own label (=Bibtex key) in Endnote >> according >> to a pattern that you can recognize. Hence, my prolific author example in >> my >> original post. In the end, however, I think it really depends how you have >> set things up and your patterns of usage. The problem with automatic key >> generation, in my opinion, is that it might create a patter that does not >> make sense for the way you conceptualize your database. Is this not what >> you >> are saying? >> >> >> > JabRef, at least, let's you customize this pattern. There's a simple GUI > for doing it. > > rh > > My comment were mainly a response to Ed' s problem. He wrote: Hi, Running: Windows XP, EndNote X1 I'm trying to export from EndNote to BibTeX format using their output style file. The most recent BibTeX output style can be found here: http://www.endnote.com/support/enstyledetail.asp?SORT=0&PAGE=3&METH=0&DISC=none&JOUR=none&BSRT=none&FF1=none&FF2=none&FF3=none&CITE=none&DKEY=714200664457JBA When I import it into LyX I point it to the exported .bib file but when I try to add a citation there are no records to choose from. Anyone else encountered this problem? Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, Ed Sykes One other problem that might be affecting Ed is the encoding of the the .bib file and the default encoding settings in Jabref. I first had a problem with this when I first started using Jabref. This could be the reason why nothing is showing up in Jabref after the export. 1. There is an option to save the exported file in .txt, .rtf, .htm, or. xml format. He should be selecting .txt format. (The file must be renamed with the .bib extension.) 2. The default encoding in Jabref should be set to ASCII format. He can check the default encoding settings in Jabref by going to OPTIONS --> PREFERENCES --> GENERAL. Default encoding is the last option. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Jeremy M. Kritt
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 11:48:30 pm Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > It seems that the way one chooses to organize things for export from > Endnote to Bibtex format depends on your system configuration and how your > have your materials organized. Respectfully, I do not believe there is one > way to "economically" do it. Sure, there is no "one way," it all depends on your setup. If your main reference manager is and remains Endnote---for whatever reasons, and there are a few good ones---, then I agree with you. If you are migrating from Endnote to JabRef/BibDesk/Whatever, however, and you have databases with hundreds and hundreds of references, things are different. I was in such a situation a couple of years ago, and I went with JabRef's automatic---and configurable---automatic keys generations. It would hae literally taken me days to do the job by hand. Cheers, S. -- __ Stefano Franchi Department of Philosophy Ph: (979) 862-2211 University of Texas A&M Fax: (979) 845-0458 305B Bolton Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] College Station, TX 77843-4237
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
Thank you so much for your awesome advice. It works! now I will just have to get into the habit of putting Labels in for new entries Thanks again! Jeremy M. Kritt wrote: > > Dear Ed: > > Your problem is easy to solve. Be not afraid! You need to add a label to > each reference in Endnote; afterwards, export it to a Bibtex file. > > When you enter Endnote, open a reference in your Endnote library. Scroll > down and you will see a field titled "Label." The label will become the > Bibtex key in your .bib file when you export to the .bib file. The Bibtex > key is important because it is the reference's unique identifier. Without > it, the .bib entry for a particular reference is incomplete and > unrecognizable for processing. > > For a reference like Nahm, A.C. (1996). Korea: Tradition & Transformation, > Seoul, Hollym International Corp. I would make the label Nahm1996 (no > spaces). > > Unfortunately, you will have to make labels for the entire library you > want > to export. This can be time consuming; however, you will get into the > habit > of entering a label when you enter new references to Endnote in the > future. > > If you plan to export references from Endnote to Bibtex format often, then > I > recommend that you make your the label field display in your Endnote > library > window. You can adjust this in Endnote's settings. Be careful with > prolific > writers that publish more than once in the same year. Expanding my example > above, I would make these types of labels like the following: Nahm1996a, > Nahm1996b, Nahm1996c, etc. > > After you have made all of your labels, export the library and you will > see > all of the references. Try exporting one reference in the manner I have > described and you will understand how it works. This took me several hours > to figure out on my own. I had nobody to help me and the documentation was > scarce, but I am glad to help you. > > Peace be with you and good luck! > > Sincerely, > > Jeremy M. Kritt > Seoul National University of Technology > Seoul, South Korea > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Ed Sykes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Running: Windows XP, EndNote X1 >> I'm trying to export from EndNote to BibTeX format using their output >> style >> file. >> >> The most recent BibTeX output style can be found here: >> >> http://www.endnote.com/support/enstyledetail.asp?SORT=0&PAGE=3&METH=0&DISC=none&JOUR=none&BSRT=none&FF1=none&FF2=none&FF3=none&CITE=none&DKEY=714200664457JBA >> >> When I import it into LyX I point it to the exported .bib file but when I >> try to add a citation there are no records to choose from. >> >> Anyone else encountered this problem? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Cheers, >> Ed Sykes >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/EndNote-X1-BibTeX-output-and-LyX-tp17636893p17636893.html >> Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/EndNote-X1-BibTeX-output-and-LyX-tp17636893p17721860.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: EndNote X1 BibTeX output and LyX
Am Sonntag, 17. März 2013, 07:34:37 schrieb kseeful: > Thank you Jeremy! Still a very helpful post! (: > > > Jeremy M. Kritt wrote > > > Dear Ed: > > > > Your problem is easy to solve. Be not afraid! You need to add a label > > to each reference in Endnote; afterwards, export it to a Bibtex file. > > > > When you enter Endnote, open a reference in your Endnote library. > > Scroll down and you will see a field titled "Label." The label will > > become the Bibtex key in your .bib file when you export to the .bib > > file. The Bibtex key is important because it is the reference's > > unique identifier. Without it, the .bib entry for a particular > > reference is incomplete and unrecognizable for processing. > > > > For a reference like Nahm, A.C. (1996). Korea: Tradition & > > Transformation, Seoul, Hollym International Corp. I would make the > > label Nahm1996 (no spaces). > > > > Unfortunately, you will have to make labels for the entire library you > > want > > to export. This can be time consuming; however, you will get into the > > habit > > of entering a label when you enter new references to Endnote in the > > future. What about importing the endnote references into jabref, label all of them there (with just a click) and exporting them back into Endnote (if you want to stick with Endnote)? Wolfgang > > > > If you plan to export references from Endnote to Bibtex format often, > > then I > > recommend that you make your the label field display in your Endnote > > library > > window. You can adjust this in Endnote's settings. Be careful with > > prolific > > writers that publish more than once in the same year. Expanding my > > example above, I would make these types of labels like the following: > > Nahm1996a, Nahm1996b, Nahm1996c, etc. > > > > After you have made all of your labels, export the library and you > > will see > > all of the references. Try exporting one reference in the manner I > > have described and you will understand how it works. This took me > > several hours to figure out on my own. I had nobody to help me and > > the documentation was scarce, but I am glad to help you. > > > > Peace be with you and good luck! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jeremy M. Kritt > > Seoul National University of Technology > > Seoul, South Korea > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/EndNote-X1-BibTeX-output-and-LyX-tp4812 > 95p7580211.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325