Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-07-19, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jessy jessyl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 
 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

 While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some 
 Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's pretty 
 annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a name, e.g. the 
 last character only is placed in a new line.
 Is there a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by 
 preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible and 
 still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not actually 
 recognized as words.

 Is there some quick and easy solution for this? There's a bunch of Japanese 
 words in my text and so far, a great amount of them is split that way, which 
 really doesn't look too good.

 Thank you very much in advance for any advice you could possibly have.

 Hi Jessica,

 I think you are running into this bug:
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4635

 There is a LyX user that is trying to fix this (but no current
 solution exists, as far as I know) here:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177986.html

One problem is, that Japanese is usually written without whitespace between
the words. Maybe therefore LyX/XeTeX allow linewraps everywhere.

The usual (La)TeX way of preventing wraps in a word (or other text part) is,
to put it in an \mbox:
   
   Pleas do not wrap the line in \mbox{Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft}.
   
This could be done via raw LaTeX (ERT) or an inset.

If there are many cases where this is required, you may save time by editing
the source file with a text editor.

Günter

Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-07-19, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jessy jessyl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 
 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

 While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some 
 Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's pretty 
 annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a name, e.g. the 
 last character only is placed in a new line.
 Is there a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by 
 preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible and 
 still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not actually 
 recognized as words.

 Is there some quick and easy solution for this? There's a bunch of Japanese 
 words in my text and so far, a great amount of them is split that way, which 
 really doesn't look too good.

 Thank you very much in advance for any advice you could possibly have.

 Hi Jessica,

 I think you are running into this bug:
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4635

 There is a LyX user that is trying to fix this (but no current
 solution exists, as far as I know) here:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177986.html

One problem is, that Japanese is usually written without whitespace between
the words. Maybe therefore LyX/XeTeX allow linewraps everywhere.

The usual (La)TeX way of preventing wraps in a word (or other text part) is,
to put it in an \mbox:
   
   Pleas do not wrap the line in \mbox{Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft}.
   
This could be done via raw LaTeX (ERT) or an inset.

If there are many cases where this is required, you may save time by editing
the source file with a text editor.

Günter

Re: How can I "protect" Japanese names / words?

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-07-19, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jessy  wrote:
>> Hello all,

>> I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 
>> 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

>> While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some 
>> Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's pretty 
>> annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a name, e.g. the 
>> last character only is placed in a new line.
>> Is there a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by 
>> preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible and 
>> still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not actually 
>> recognized as words.

>> Is there some quick and easy solution for this? There's a bunch of Japanese 
>> words in my text and so far, a great amount of them is split that way, which 
>> really doesn't look too good.

>> Thank you very much in advance for any advice you could possibly have.

> Hi Jessica,

> I think you are running into this bug:
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4635

> There is a LyX user that is trying to fix this (but no current
> solution exists, as far as I know) here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177986.html

One problem is, that Japanese is usually written without whitespace between
the words. Maybe therefore LyX/XeTeX allow linewraps everywhere.

The usual (La)TeX way of preventing wraps in a word (or other text part) is,
to put it in an \mbox:
   
   Pleas do not wrap the line in \mbox{Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft}.
   
This could be done via raw LaTeX (ERT) or an inset.

If there are many cases where this is required, you may save time by editing
the source file with a text editor.

Günter

Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jessy jessyl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 
 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

 While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some 
 Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's pretty 
 annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a name, e.g. the last 
 character only is placed in a new line.
 Is there a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by 
 preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible and 
 still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not actually 
 recognized as words.

 Is there some quick and easy solution for this? There's a bunch of Japanese 
 words in my text and so far, a great amount of them is split that way, which 
 really doesn't look too good.

 Thank you very much in advance for any advice you could possibly have.

Hi Jessica,

I think you are running into this bug:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4635

There is a LyX user that is trying to fix this (but no current
solution exists, as far as I know) here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177986.html

Scott

Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 19/07/2013 23:02, Jessy a écrit :

Hello all,

I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6
on OS X 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some
Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's
pretty annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a
name, e.g. the last character only is placed in a new line. Is there
a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by
preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible
and still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not
actually recognized as words.


Is this problem on screen or in the resulting PDF?

JMarc

Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Jessy]

It happens in the PDF output (via XeTeX).

Jessica

Am 20.07.2013 um 00:28 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

 Le 19/07/2013 23:02, Jessy a écrit :
 Hello all,
 
 I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6
 on OS X 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.
 
 While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some
 Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's
 pretty annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a
 name, e.g. the last character only is placed in a new line. Is there
 a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by
 preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible
 and still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not
 actually recognized as words.
 
 Is this problem on screen or in the resulting PDF?
 
 JMarc

Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jessy jessyl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 
 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

 While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some 
 Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's pretty 
 annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a name, e.g. the last 
 character only is placed in a new line.
 Is there a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by 
 preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible and 
 still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not actually 
 recognized as words.

 Is there some quick and easy solution for this? There's a bunch of Japanese 
 words in my text and so far, a great amount of them is split that way, which 
 really doesn't look too good.

 Thank you very much in advance for any advice you could possibly have.

Hi Jessica,

I think you are running into this bug:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4635

There is a LyX user that is trying to fix this (but no current
solution exists, as far as I know) here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177986.html

Scott

Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 19/07/2013 23:02, Jessy a écrit :

Hello all,

I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6
on OS X 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some
Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's
pretty annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a
name, e.g. the last character only is placed in a new line. Is there
a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by
preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible
and still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not
actually recognized as words.


Is this problem on screen or in the resulting PDF?

JMarc

Re: How can I protect Japanese names / words?

[Jessy]

It happens in the PDF output (via XeTeX).

Jessica

Am 20.07.2013 um 00:28 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

 Le 19/07/2013 23:02, Jessy a écrit :
 Hello all,
 
 I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6
 on OS X 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.
 
 While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some
 Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's
 pretty annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a
 name, e.g. the last character only is placed in a new line. Is there
 a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by
 preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible
 and still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not
 actually recognized as words.
 
 Is this problem on screen or in the resulting PDF?
 
 JMarc

Re: How can I "protect" Japanese names / words?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jessy  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 
> 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.
>
> While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some 
> Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's pretty 
> annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a name, e.g. the last 
> character only is placed in a new line.
> Is there a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by 
> preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible and 
> still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not actually 
> recognized as words.
>
> Is there some quick and easy solution for this? There's a bunch of Japanese 
> words in my text and so far, a great amount of them is split that way, which 
> really doesn't look too good.
>
> Thank you very much in advance for any advice you could possibly have.

Hi Jessica,

I think you are running into this bug:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4635

There is a LyX user that is trying to fix this (but no current
solution exists, as far as I know) here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177986.html

Scott

Re: How can I "protect" Japanese names / words?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 19/07/2013 23:02, Jessy a écrit :

Hello all,

I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6
on OS X 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.

While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some
Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's
pretty annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a
name, e.g. the last character only is placed in a new line. Is there
a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by
preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible
and still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not
actually recognized as words.


Is this problem on screen or in the resulting PDF?

JMarc

Re: How can I "protect" Japanese names / words?

[Jessy]

It happens in the PDF output (via XeTeX).

Jessica

Am 20.07.2013 um 00:28 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

> Le 19/07/2013 23:02, Jessy a écrit :
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I'm currently writing my thesis in Japanese studies using LyX 2.0.6
>> on OS X 10.6.8. The document class of my choice is koma-script book.
>> 
>> While my thesis is mainly written in my native German, there are some
>> Japanese names, terms, and place names given in the text. What's
>> pretty annoying is that there sometimes are line breaks inside a
>> name, e.g. the last character only is placed in a new line. Is there
>> a way to prevent LyX from doing this? I've tried to achieve it by
>> preventing hyphenation, but that just makes everything look terrible
>> and still breaks the Japanese words in between - seems they're not
>> actually recognized as words.
> 
> Is this problem on screen or in the resulting PDF?
> 
> JMarc