Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
 create some sketches.
 
 As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
 definition SVG-EPS defined as inkscape -E $$o $$i as wells as one for
 SVG-EPS as inkscape -e $$o $$i.

I guess you mean SVG-PNG as inkscape -e $$o $$i?

 In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out the
 system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape) is
 displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not the
 page.
 
 DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in LyX.
 
 Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing only?

Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it work
if you delete the SVG-PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to EPS
and then use the EPS-PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
SVG file.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
From: Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:38:30 +0200

Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
 create some sketches.
 
 As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
 definition SVG-EPS defined as inkscape -E $$o $$i as wells as one for
 SVG-EPS as inkscape -e $$o $$i.

I guess you mean SVG-PNG as inkscape -e $$o $$i?

 In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out the
 system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape) is
 displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not the
 page.
 
 DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in LyX.
 
 Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing only?

Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it work
if you delete the SVG-PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to EPS
and then use the EPS-PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
SVG file.

In a different thread about svg export resolution, I gave a script to extract
the bounding box from png exports:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47491.html

Maybe this can help as a wrapper of the png export.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr
 
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 From: Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?
 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:38:30 +0200
 
 Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
  create some sketches.
  
  As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
  definition SVG-EPS defined as inkscape -E $$o $$i as wells as one
 for
  SVG-EPS as inkscape -e $$o $$i.
 
 I guess you mean SVG-PNG as inkscape -e $$o $$i?

Yes, it was late yesterday...

 
  In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out
 the
  system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape)
 is
  displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not
 the
  page.
  
  DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in
 LyX.
  
  Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing
 only?
 
 Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it
 work
 if you delete the SVG-PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to
 EPS
 and then use the EPS-PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
 not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
 SVG file.

The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG-PNG conversion. A attached 
an SVG problem file.

One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted images 
which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?

 
 In a different thread about svg export resolution, I gave a script to
 extract
 the bounding box from png exports:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47491.html
 
 Maybe this can help as a wrapper of the png export.

Since it works sometimes and sometimes not I am actually looking for a solution 
for this miss-behavior. But thanks anyway for the link, I will keep that in 
mind and refer to if necessary.

 
 -- 
 Jean-Pierre

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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Reinhard Mayr wrote:

 The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG-PNG conversion. A
 attached an SVG problem file.

I was wrong, LyX will use imagemagicks convert program in that case. You
need to set the SVG-PNG converter to a script that first exports to eps and
then converts that to png. Maybe the link posted by Jean-Pierre helps here.

 One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted
 images which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?

No, it does not have a cache.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski
Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying the  
image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?


When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which  
situation?

What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?

I thought (might be somehow wrong):
For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG-EPS converter.
For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG-PNG converter.

Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion  
listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the background  
is the same as the window background, without it is white.


Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?

Thanks!

Cz.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:48:37 +0200, Georg Baum  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Reinhard Mayr wrote:


The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG-PNG conversion. A
attached an SVG problem file.


I was wrong, LyX will use imagemagicks convert program in that case. You
need to set the SVG-PNG converter to a script that first exports to eps  
and
then converts that to png. Maybe the link posted by Jean-Pierre helps  
here.



One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted
images which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?


No, it does not have a cache.


Georg





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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Am Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2006 19:14 schrieb Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski:
 Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying 
the  
 image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?

Yes.

 When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which  
 situation?

You can see that in the terminal window if you start LyX with -dbg 
graphics.

 What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?

There is no choice. latex needs eps for DVI output.

 I thought (might be somehow wrong):
 For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG-EPS converter.

Right.

 For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG-PNG converter.

Almost right. ppm, xpm and a few other formats would also work.

 Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion  
 listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the 
background  
 is the same as the window background, without it is white.
 
 Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?

I explained it already: If you don't specify a svg-png converter then LyX 
will use the default converter.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski

Ok, I think I got it (after a while  *gg*)

I could also figure out why the images seemed to be cropped properly an  
newer images were not: The first images were created with gnumeric which  
adopts the canvas size -- and the newer images have a canvas of A4,  
therefore the large area to display in lyx... DVI output was always fine  
because EPS does not know a thing like the canvas.


So would like to thank the list members for their help and explanations  
... and for their patience!


Cz.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:12:55 +0200, Georg Baum  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Am Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2006 19:14 schrieb Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski:

Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying

the

image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?


Yes.


When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which
situation?


You can see that in the terminal window if you start LyX with -dbg
graphics.


What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?


There is no choice. latex needs eps for DVI output.


I thought (might be somehow wrong):
For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG-EPS converter.


Right.


For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG-PNG converter.


Almost right. ppm, xpm and a few other formats would also work.


Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion
listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the

background

is the same as the window background, without it is white.

Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?


I explained it already: If you don't specify a svg-png converter then  
LyX

will use the default converter.


Georg





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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
 create some sketches.
 
 As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
 definition SVG-EPS defined as inkscape -E $$o $$i as wells as one for
 SVG-EPS as inkscape -e $$o $$i.

I guess you mean SVG-PNG as inkscape -e $$o $$i?

 In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out the
 system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape) is
 displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not the
 page.
 
 DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in LyX.
 
 Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing only?

Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it work
if you delete the SVG-PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to EPS
and then use the EPS-PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
SVG file.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
From: Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:38:30 +0200

Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
 create some sketches.
 
 As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
 definition SVG-EPS defined as inkscape -E $$o $$i as wells as one for
 SVG-EPS as inkscape -e $$o $$i.

I guess you mean SVG-PNG as inkscape -e $$o $$i?

 In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out the
 system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape) is
 displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not the
 page.
 
 DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in LyX.
 
 Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing only?

Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it work
if you delete the SVG-PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to EPS
and then use the EPS-PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
SVG file.

In a different thread about svg export resolution, I gave a script to extract
the bounding box from png exports:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47491.html

Maybe this can help as a wrapper of the png export.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr
 
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 From: Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?
 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:38:30 +0200
 
 Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
  create some sketches.
  
  As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
  definition SVG-EPS defined as inkscape -E $$o $$i as wells as one
 for
  SVG-EPS as inkscape -e $$o $$i.
 
 I guess you mean SVG-PNG as inkscape -e $$o $$i?

Yes, it was late yesterday...

 
  In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out
 the
  system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape)
 is
  displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not
 the
  page.
  
  DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in
 LyX.
  
  Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing
 only?
 
 Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it
 work
 if you delete the SVG-PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to
 EPS
 and then use the EPS-PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
 not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
 SVG file.

The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG-PNG conversion. A attached 
an SVG problem file.

One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted images 
which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?

 
 In a different thread about svg export resolution, I gave a script to
 extract
 the bounding box from png exports:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47491.html
 
 Maybe this can help as a wrapper of the png export.

Since it works sometimes and sometimes not I am actually looking for a solution 
for this miss-behavior. But thanks anyway for the link, I will keep that in 
mind and refer to if necessary.

 
 -- 
 Jean-Pierre

-- 


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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Reinhard Mayr wrote:

 The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG-PNG conversion. A
 attached an SVG problem file.

I was wrong, LyX will use imagemagicks convert program in that case. You
need to set the SVG-PNG converter to a script that first exports to eps and
then converts that to png. Maybe the link posted by Jean-Pierre helps here.

 One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted
 images which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?

No, it does not have a cache.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski
Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying the  
image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?


When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which  
situation?

What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?

I thought (might be somehow wrong):
For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG-EPS converter.
For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG-PNG converter.

Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion  
listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the background  
is the same as the window background, without it is white.


Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?

Thanks!

Cz.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:48:37 +0200, Georg Baum  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Reinhard Mayr wrote:


The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG-PNG conversion. A
attached an SVG problem file.


I was wrong, LyX will use imagemagicks convert program in that case. You
need to set the SVG-PNG converter to a script that first exports to eps  
and
then converts that to png. Maybe the link posted by Jean-Pierre helps  
here.



One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted
images which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?


No, it does not have a cache.


Georg





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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Am Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2006 19:14 schrieb Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski:
 Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying 
the  
 image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?

Yes.

 When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which  
 situation?

You can see that in the terminal window if you start LyX with -dbg 
graphics.

 What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?

There is no choice. latex needs eps for DVI output.

 I thought (might be somehow wrong):
 For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG-EPS converter.

Right.

 For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG-PNG converter.

Almost right. ppm, xpm and a few other formats would also work.

 Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion  
 listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the 
background  
 is the same as the window background, without it is white.
 
 Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?

I explained it already: If you don't specify a svg-png converter then LyX 
will use the default converter.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski

Ok, I think I got it (after a while  *gg*)

I could also figure out why the images seemed to be cropped properly an  
newer images were not: The first images were created with gnumeric which  
adopts the canvas size -- and the newer images have a canvas of A4,  
therefore the large area to display in lyx... DVI output was always fine  
because EPS does not know a thing like the canvas.


So would like to thank the list members for their help and explanations  
... and for their patience!


Cz.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:12:55 +0200, Georg Baum  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Am Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2006 19:14 schrieb Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski:

Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying

the

image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?


Yes.


When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which
situation?


You can see that in the terminal window if you start LyX with -dbg
graphics.


What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?


There is no choice. latex needs eps for DVI output.


I thought (might be somehow wrong):
For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG-EPS converter.


Right.


For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG-PNG converter.


Almost right. ppm, xpm and a few other formats would also work.


Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion
listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the

background

is the same as the window background, without it is white.

Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?


I explained it already: If you don't specify a svg-png converter then  
LyX

will use the default converter.


Georg





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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
> create some sketches.
> 
> As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
> definition SVG->EPS defined as "inkscape -E $$o $$i" as wells as one for
> SVG->EPS as "inkscape -e $$o $$i".

I guess you mean SVG->PNG as "inkscape -e $$o $$i"?

> In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out the
> system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape) is
> displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not the
> page.
> 
> DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in LyX.
> 
> Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing only?

Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it work
if you delete the SVG->PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to EPS
and then use the EPS->PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
SVG file.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

>>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
>>From: Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?
>>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:38:30 +0200
>>
>>Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
>>> create some sketches.
>>> 
>>> As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
>>> definition SVG->EPS defined as "inkscape -E $$o $$i" as wells as one for
>>> SVG->EPS as "inkscape -e $$o $$i".
>>
>>I guess you mean SVG->PNG as "inkscape -e $$o $$i"?
>>
>>> In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out the
>>> system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape) is
>>> displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not the
>>> page.
>>> 
>>> DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in LyX.
>>> 
>>> Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing only?
>>
>>Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it work
>>if you delete the SVG->PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to EPS
>>and then use the EPS->PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
>>not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
>>SVG file.

In a different thread about svg export resolution, I gave a script to extract
the bounding box from png exports:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47491.html

Maybe this can help as a wrapper of the png export.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr
> 
> >>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> >>From: Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?
> >>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:38:30 +0200
> >>
> >>Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> I work with LyX 1.4.1 on OpenSuSE 10.1. And I use inkscape 0.43-20 to
> >>> create some sketches.
> >>> 
> >>> As it was some days ago discussed on the list, I created a conversion
> >>> definition SVG->EPS defined as "inkscape -E $$o $$i" as wells as one
> for
> >>> SVG->EPS as "inkscape -e $$o $$i".
> >>
> >>I guess you mean SVG->PNG as "inkscape -e $$o $$i"?

Yes, it was late yesterday...

> >>
> >>> In principal this works find, but with some files (I haven't found out
> the
> >>> system, yet) an entire page (with the drawing placed like in inkscape)
> is
> >>> displayed in LyX -- but LyX should only display the drawing and not
> the
> >>> page.
> >>> 
> >>> DVI and PDF output are fine -- it' s just about the representation in
> LyX.
> >>> 
> >>> Can anybody tell me why this is and what I can do to see the drawing
> only?
> >>
> >>Probably you encountered a bug in the png export of inkscape. Does it
> work
> >>if you delete the SVG->PNG converter? In that case LyX will convert to
> EPS
> >>and then use the EPS->PNG converter (convert from imagemagick if you did
> >>not define your own) for display. If that does not work, send an example
> >>SVG file.

The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG->PNG conversion. A attached 
an SVG problem file.

One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted images 
which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?

> 
> In a different thread about svg export resolution, I gave a script to
> extract
> the bounding box from png exports:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47491.html
> 
> Maybe this can help as a wrapper of the png export.

Since it works sometimes and sometimes not I am actually looking for a solution 
for this miss-behavior. But thanks anyway for the link, I will keep that in 
mind and refer to if necessary.

> 
> -- 
> Jean-Pierre

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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Reinhard Mayr wrote:

> The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG->PNG conversion. A
> attached an SVG problem file.

I was wrong, LyX will use imagemagicks convert program in that case. You
need to set the SVG-PNG converter to a script that first exports to eps and
then converts that to png. Maybe the link posted by Jean-Pierre helps here.

> One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted
> images which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?

No, it does not have a cache.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski
Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying the  
image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?


When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which  
situation?

What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?

I thought (might be somehow wrong):
For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG->EPS converter.
For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG->PNG converter.

Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion  
listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the background  
is the same as the window background, without it is white.


Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?

Thanks!

Cz.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:48:37 +0200, Georg Baum  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Reinhard Mayr wrote:


The problem still persists even if I delete the SVG->PNG conversion. A
attached an SVG problem file.


I was wrong, LyX will use imagemagicks convert program in that case. You
need to set the SVG-PNG converter to a script that first exports to eps  
and
then converts that to png. Maybe the link posted by Jean-Pierre helps  
here.



One question in this respect: Does LyX save temp files of the converted
images which are displayed? Shall I empty any cache?


No, it does not have a cache.


Georg





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Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Georg Baum
Am Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2006 19:14 schrieb Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski:
> Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying 
the  
> image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?

Yes.

> When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which  
> situation?

You can see that in the terminal window if you start LyX with -dbg 
graphics.

> What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?

There is no choice. latex needs eps for DVI output.

> I thought (might be somehow wrong):
> For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG->EPS converter.

Right.

> For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG->PNG converter.

Almost right. ppm, xpm and a few other formats would also work.

> Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion  
> listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the 
background  
> is the same as the window background, without it is white.
> 
> Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?

I explained it already: If you don't specify a svg->png converter then LyX 
will use the default converter.


Georg



Re: Wrong conversion of SVG for LyX inline display?

2006-07-12 Thread Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski

Ok, I think I got it (after a while  *gg*)

I could also figure out why the images seemed to be cropped properly an  
newer images were not: The first images were created with gnumeric which  
adopts the canvas size -- and the newer images have a canvas of A4,  
therefore the large area to display in lyx... DVI output was always fine  
because EPS does not know a thing like the canvas.


So would like to thank the list members for their help and explanations  
... and for their patience!


Cz.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:12:55 +0200, Georg Baum  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Am Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2006 19:14 schrieb Reinhard Mayr aka Czerwinski:

Well, I think there must be 2 steps of conversion - one for displaying

the

image in LyX and one for the DVI output. -- Is that right?


Yes.


When I use SVG as source format, which conversions take place for which
situation?


You can see that in the terminal window if you start LyX with -dbg
graphics.


What is the preferred format for LyX and for DVI output?


There is no choice. latex needs eps for DVI output.


I thought (might be somehow wrong):
For DVI output, an EPS is required, therefore the SVG->EPS converter.


Right.


For LyX display, PNG is required, therefore SVG->PNG converter.


Almost right. ppm, xpm and a few other formats would also work.


Nevertheless, Lyx also displays the image without the PNG conversion
listet, but there is a difference. With the PNG conversion, the

background

is the same as the window background, without it is white.

Can anybody explain, which conversion applies in which situation?


I explained it already: If you don't specify a svg->png converter then  
LyX

will use the default converter.


Georg





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