Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4r2=1.5 I don't need to recompile to do that - can't I deactivate all converters to postscript? Thank you for the info, though. Are there chances to get working rendering of ps, eps or pdf back? A question concerning xforms development, I guess? Not having to convert these would be nice. My original message was a somewhat academic question about lyx converting png-xpm-eps-ps, even though xpm can be loaded directly. Why the detour? This is not _really_ relevant, since I think the xpm-eps converter was not there by default, and I don't remember why I put it there. If you leave that out, there is only one route, png-xpm, which gets loaded correctly. Just an oddity. Jan
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: My original message was a somewhat academic question about lyx converting png-xpm-eps-ps, even though xpm can be loaded directly. Why the detour? This is not _really_ relevant, since I think the xpm-eps converter was not there by default, and I don't remember why I put it there. If you leave that out, there is only one route, png-xpm, which gets loaded correctly. Just an oddity. you are right, the problem is the function which searches for a loaddable format - snip - Of these, LyX recognises the following formats: bmp, ppm, ps, tiff, xbm, xpm - snip - these are sorted, so ps is found before xpm. should be done in a better way. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4r2=1.5 I don't need to recompile to do that - can't I deactivate all converters to postscript? Thank you for the info, though. Are there chances to get working rendering of ps, eps or pdf back? A question concerning xforms development, I guess? Not having to convert these would be nice. My original message was a somewhat academic question about lyx converting png-xpm-eps-ps, even though xpm can be loaded directly. Why the detour? This is not _really_ relevant, since I think the xpm-eps converter was not there by default, and I don't remember why I put it there. If you leave that out, there is only one route, png-xpm, which gets loaded correctly. Just an oddity. Jan
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: My original message was a somewhat academic question about lyx converting png-xpm-eps-ps, even though xpm can be loaded directly. Why the detour? This is not _really_ relevant, since I think the xpm-eps converter was not there by default, and I don't remember why I put it there. If you leave that out, there is only one route, png-xpm, which gets loaded correctly. Just an oddity. you are right, the problem is the function which searches for a loaddable format - snip - Of these, LyX recognises the following formats: bmp, ppm, ps, tiff, xbm, xpm - snip - these are sorted, so ps is found before xpm. should be done in a better way. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
> > Image conversion succeeded. > > Loading image. > > xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... > > xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript > > xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! > > Image loading failed. > > xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading > > the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's > the problem. disable it > > >http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4=1.5 I don't need to recompile to do that - can't I deactivate all converters to postscript? Thank you for the info, though. Are there chances to get working rendering of ps, eps or pdf back? A question concerning xforms development, I guess? Not having to convert these would be nice. My original message was a somewhat academic question about lyx converting png->xpm->eps->ps, even though xpm can be loaded directly. Why the detour? This is not _really_ relevant, since I think the xpm->eps converter was not there by default, and I don't remember why I put it there. If you leave that out, there is only one route, png->xpm, which gets loaded correctly. Just an oddity. Jan
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: > My original message was a somewhat academic question about lyx converting > png->xpm->eps->ps, even though xpm can be loaded directly. Why the detour? > This is not _really_ relevant, since I think the xpm->eps converter was > not there by default, and I don't remember why I put it there. If you > leave that out, there is only one route, png->xpm, which gets loaded > correctly. Just an oddity. you are right, the problem is the function which searches for a loaddable format - snip - Of these, LyX recognises the following formats: bmp, ppm, ps, tiff, xbm, xpm - snip - these are sorted, so ps is found before xpm. should be done in a better way. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote:
By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS
converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image
(see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the
PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg
graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm
directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter.
This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work
around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd.
You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs
and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms
image loader
Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined
that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the
shortest route to be chosen.
Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned:
Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png
with recognised extension: png.
Scanstring: PNG
Recognised Fileformat: png
Scanstring: PNG
Recognised Fileformat: png
The file contains png format data.
The image loader can load the following directly:
Windows/OS2 BMP file, extension bmp
NASA/NOST FITS, extension fits
CompuServ GIF, extension gif
JPEG/JFIF format, extension jpg
Portable Pixmap, extension ppm
Portable Graymap, extension pgm
Portable Bitmap, extension pbm
PostScript, extension ps
SGI Iris, extension sgi
Tag Image File Format, extension tif
X11 Bitmap, extension xbm
X Window Dump, extension xwd
XPM format, extension xpm
Of these, LyX recognises the following formats:
gif, jpg, ps, xpm
Converting it to ps format.
Conversion script:
#!/bin/sh
infile='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png'
infile_base='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm'
convert ${infile} ${outfile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm'
infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps'
convert ${infile} ${outfile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
'rm' -f ${infile}
infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps'
infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.ps'
gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=${outfile}
${infile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
'rm' -f ${infile}
fromfile=${outfile}
tofile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/chap1_neurone17752eXed55.ps'
'mv' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'cp' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
exit 1
fi
'rm' -f ${fromfile}
fi
Image conversion succeeded.
Loading image.
xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ...
xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript
xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written!
Image loading failed.
xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the shortest route to be chosen. Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png with recognised extension: png. Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png [...] Converting it to ps format. [..] Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4r2=1.5 Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote:
By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS
converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image
(see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the
PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg
graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm
directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter.
This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work
around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd.
You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs
and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms
image loader
Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined
that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the
shortest route to be chosen.
Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned:
Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png
with recognised extension: png.
Scanstring: PNG
Recognised Fileformat: png
Scanstring: PNG
Recognised Fileformat: png
The file contains png format data.
The image loader can load the following directly:
Windows/OS2 BMP file, extension bmp
NASA/NOST FITS, extension fits
CompuServ GIF, extension gif
JPEG/JFIF format, extension jpg
Portable Pixmap, extension ppm
Portable Graymap, extension pgm
Portable Bitmap, extension pbm
PostScript, extension ps
SGI Iris, extension sgi
Tag Image File Format, extension tif
X11 Bitmap, extension xbm
X Window Dump, extension xwd
XPM format, extension xpm
Of these, LyX recognises the following formats:
gif, jpg, ps, xpm
Converting it to ps format.
Conversion script:
#!/bin/sh
infile='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png'
infile_base='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm'
convert ${infile} ${outfile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm'
infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps'
convert ${infile} ${outfile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
'rm' -f ${infile}
infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps'
infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.ps'
gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=${outfile}
${infile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
'rm' -f ${infile}
fromfile=${outfile}
tofile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/chap1_neurone17752eXed55.ps'
'mv' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'cp' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
exit 1
fi
'rm' -f ${fromfile}
fi
Image conversion succeeded.
Loading image.
xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ...
xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript
xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written!
Image loading failed.
xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the shortest route to be chosen. Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png with recognised extension: png. Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png [...] Converting it to ps format. [..] Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4r2=1.5 Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote:
> > By default a converter PNG->EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS->PS
> > converter, Lyx then converted PNG->EPS->PS and failed to load the image
> > (see previous message). So I removed the PNG->EPS converter, so that the
> > PNG->XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. "lyx -dbg
> > graphics" shows that lyx converts PNG->XPM->EPS->PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm
> > directly and does so, if I delete the EPS->PS converter.
> > This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work
> > around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd.
>
> You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs
> and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms
> image loader
Do you have a xpm->eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined
that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the
shortest route to be chosen.
Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned:
Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png
with recognised extension: png.
Scanstring: PNG
Recognised Fileformat: png
Scanstring: PNG
Recognised Fileformat: png
The file contains png format data.
The image loader can load the following directly:
Windows/OS2 BMP file, extension "bmp"
NASA/NOST FITS, extension "fits"
CompuServ GIF, extension "gif"
JPEG/JFIF format, extension "jpg"
Portable Pixmap, extension "ppm"
Portable Graymap, extension "pgm"
Portable Bitmap, extension "pbm"
PostScript, extension "ps"
SGI Iris, extension "sgi"
Tag Image File Format, extension "tif"
X11 Bitmap, extension "xbm"
X Window Dump, extension "xwd"
XPM format, extension "xpm"
Of these, LyX recognises the following formats:
gif, jpg, ps, xpm
Converting it to ps format.
Conversion script:
#!/bin/sh
infile='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png'
infile_base='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm'
convert ${infile} ${outfile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm'
infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps'
convert ${infile} ${outfile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
'rm' -f ${infile}
infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps'
infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm'
outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.ps'
gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=${outfile}
${infile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'rm' -f ${outfile}
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then
if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then
'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile}
'rm' -f ${outfile}.?
else
exit 1
fi
fi
'rm' -f ${infile}
fromfile=${outfile}
tofile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/chap1_neurone17752eXed55.ps'
'mv' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
'cp' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile}
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
exit 1
fi
'rm' -f ${fromfile}
fi
Image conversion succeeded.
Loading image.
xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ...
xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript
xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written!
Image loading failed.
xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: > >>>By default a converter PNG->EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS->PS >>>converter, Lyx then converted PNG->EPS->PS and failed to load the image >>>(see previous message). So I removed the PNG->EPS converter, so that the >>>PNG->XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. "lyx -dbg >>>graphics" shows that lyx converts PNG->XPM->EPS->PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm >>>directly and does so, if I delete the EPS->PS converter. >>>This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work >>>around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. >>> >>You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs >>and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms >>image loader >> > > Do you have a xpm->eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined > that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the > shortest route to be chosen. > Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: > Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png > with recognised extension: png. > Scanstring: PNG > Recognised Fileformat: png [...] > Converting it to ps format. [..] > Image conversion succeeded. > Loading image. > xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... > xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript > xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! > Image loading failed. > xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4=1.5 Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:51:20AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: I guess the more power the developers give to the user, the more they need to hold the hands of those who are not interested in power, but in ease of use. Not at all. It is just a matter of teething troubles with the new system, and buggy programs lyx relies on, and old buggy image files. When everyone is using xforms internal image loader or (eventually) the Qt or Gnome frontends, things will just work much better, by default. john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Minor display error
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:57:13AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: When inserting a graphics (or when converting old files without extension for the graphics file names), an empty box shows up representing the image to be loaded, along with some message. When inserting the correct file name, the image gets loaded, and is shown correctly outside the original box but has some weird display inside this box. This goes away immediately on the first redraw of the canvas and is harmless, but does not look very professional when trying to convince others how great Lyx is... Please provide some more details (example file, exact steps to reproduce, even a screenshot) what do you mean outside the original box ?? thanks john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Displaying png and ps files
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:58:39AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: I think I heard once on the list that png files can be displayed directly. Is this only true for the internal image loader or with the xforms loader, too? I have quite a few of them and not having to convert them each time I open my thesis would speed up things considerably. xforms image loader, alas, does not yet support png, so they must be converted. Don't display is your best option here :/ xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading Another xforms problem I guess. Please supply the failing file john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:01:55PM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader regards john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:51:20AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: I guess the more power the developers give to the user, the more they need to hold the hands of those who are not interested in power, but in ease of use. Not at all. It is just a matter of teething troubles with the new system, and buggy programs lyx relies on, and old buggy image files. When everyone is using xforms internal image loader or (eventually) the Qt or Gnome frontends, things will just work much better, by default. john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Minor display error
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:57:13AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: When inserting a graphics (or when converting old files without extension for the graphics file names), an empty box shows up representing the image to be loaded, along with some message. When inserting the correct file name, the image gets loaded, and is shown correctly outside the original box but has some weird display inside this box. This goes away immediately on the first redraw of the canvas and is harmless, but does not look very professional when trying to convince others how great Lyx is... Please provide some more details (example file, exact steps to reproduce, even a screenshot) what do you mean outside the original box ?? thanks john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Displaying png and ps files
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:58:39AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: I think I heard once on the list that png files can be displayed directly. Is this only true for the internal image loader or with the xforms loader, too? I have quite a few of them and not having to convert them each time I open my thesis would speed up things considerably. xforms image loader, alas, does not yet support png, so they must be converted. Don't display is your best option here :/ xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading Another xforms problem I guess. Please supply the failing file john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:01:55PM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader regards john -- I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature. - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:51:20AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: > I guess the more power the developers give to the user, the more they need > to hold the hands of those who are not interested in power, but in ease of > use. Not at all. It is just a matter of teething troubles with the new system, and buggy programs lyx relies on, and old buggy image files. When everyone is using xforms internal image loader or (eventually) the Qt or Gnome frontends, things will just work much better, by default. john -- "I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature." - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Minor display error
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:57:13AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: > When inserting a graphics (or when converting old files without extension > for the graphics file names), an empty box shows up representing the image > to be loaded, along with some message. When inserting the correct file > name, the image gets loaded, and is shown correctly outside the original > box but has some weird display inside this box. This goes away immediately > on the first redraw of the canvas and is harmless, but does not look very > professional when trying to convince others how great Lyx is... Please provide some more details (example file, exact steps to reproduce, even a screenshot) what do you mean "outside the original box" ?? thanks john -- "I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature." - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Displaying png and ps files
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:58:39AM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: > I think I heard once on the list that png files can be displayed directly. > Is this only true for the internal image loader or with the xforms loader, > too? I have quite a few of them and not having to convert them each time I > open my thesis would speed up things considerably. xforms image loader, alas, does not yet support png, so they must be converted. "Don't display" is your best option here :/ > xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... > xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript > xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! > Image loading failed. > xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading Another xforms problem I guess. Please supply the failing file john -- "I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature." - Richard Stallman
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:01:55PM +0100, Jan Warnking wrote: > By default a converter PNG->EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS->PS > converter, Lyx then converted PNG->EPS->PS and failed to load the image > (see previous message). So I removed the PNG->EPS converter, so that the > PNG->XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. "lyx -dbg > graphics" shows that lyx converts PNG->XPM->EPS->PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm > directly and does so, if I delete the EPS->PS converter. > This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work > around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader regards john -- "I hope you will find the courage to keep on living despite the existence of this feature." - Richard Stallman
Viewing images in lyx-1.2
I am about to send a couple of gripes about viewing images in lyx-1.2. Rather than putting all in one large email, I preferred splitting things up, so they can be discussed separately. Let me state here that (despite my criticism) I greatly appreciate the effort the lyx team puts into giving us users the greatest document processor existing! I really think that the new mechanisms of handling graphics, defining formats and coverters and have the user decide how to convert what is great. Very flexible and powerful. Note, however, that I did not see this from the start. I am not used to be given this kind of power, and my first reaction was Uh, this seems complicated, why do I need to mess with the converters now when everything was automatic before?. Basically, since now I _can_ fix things that don't work (converters not defined correctly, not the right version of xforms, ImageMagick ...), I am _responsible_ for fixing them. No need to say that things were far from perfect before, but since there was not much I could do about it, I put up with it. I guess the more power the developers give to the user, the more they need to hold the hands of those who are not interested in power, but in ease of use. Jan
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Minor display error
When inserting a graphics (or when converting old files without extension for the graphics file names), an empty box shows up representing the image to be loaded, along with some message. When inserting the correct file name, the image gets loaded, and is shown correctly outside the original box but has some weird display inside this box. This goes away immediately on the first redraw of the canvas and is harmless, but does not look very professional when trying to convince others how great Lyx is... Jan PS : I use lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7 and Linux(i386, Debian Potato). Both systems have xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Displaying png and ps files
This may have been discussed on the list before, but I didn't find it in the archives. Displaying png files I think I heard once on the list that png files can be displayed directly. Is this only true for the internal image loader or with the xforms loader, too? I have quite a few of them and not having to convert them each time I open my thesis would speed up things considerably. Displaying ps files --- Is there a bug with the ps loader in xforms 0.89.6? I display eps files by converting them to ps using gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=$$o $$i (I think this was suggested on the list at some point). Reasonably fast, and the resulting .ps looks ok in gv. However the file never shows up in lyx (lyx -dbg graphics says: ... Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading Jan PS : I use lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7 and Linux(i386, Debian Potato). Both systems have xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. Jan PS : This has been verified using lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7, xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2
I am about to send a couple of gripes about viewing images in lyx-1.2. Rather than putting all in one large email, I preferred splitting things up, so they can be discussed separately. Let me state here that (despite my criticism) I greatly appreciate the effort the lyx team puts into giving us users the greatest document processor existing! I really think that the new mechanisms of handling graphics, defining formats and coverters and have the user decide how to convert what is great. Very flexible and powerful. Note, however, that I did not see this from the start. I am not used to be given this kind of power, and my first reaction was Uh, this seems complicated, why do I need to mess with the converters now when everything was automatic before?. Basically, since now I _can_ fix things that don't work (converters not defined correctly, not the right version of xforms, ImageMagick ...), I am _responsible_ for fixing them. No need to say that things were far from perfect before, but since there was not much I could do about it, I put up with it. I guess the more power the developers give to the user, the more they need to hold the hands of those who are not interested in power, but in ease of use. Jan
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Minor display error
When inserting a graphics (or when converting old files without extension for the graphics file names), an empty box shows up representing the image to be loaded, along with some message. When inserting the correct file name, the image gets loaded, and is shown correctly outside the original box but has some weird display inside this box. This goes away immediately on the first redraw of the canvas and is harmless, but does not look very professional when trying to convince others how great Lyx is... Jan PS : I use lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7 and Linux(i386, Debian Potato). Both systems have xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Displaying png and ps files
This may have been discussed on the list before, but I didn't find it in the archives. Displaying png files I think I heard once on the list that png files can be displayed directly. Is this only true for the internal image loader or with the xforms loader, too? I have quite a few of them and not having to convert them each time I open my thesis would speed up things considerably. Displaying ps files --- Is there a bug with the ps loader in xforms 0.89.6? I display eps files by converting them to ps using gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=$$o $$i (I think this was suggested on the list at some point). Reasonably fast, and the resulting .ps looks ok in gv. However the file never shows up in lyx (lyx -dbg graphics says: ... Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading Jan PS : I use lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7 and Linux(i386, Debian Potato). Both systems have xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. Jan PS : This has been verified using lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7, xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2
I am about to send a couple of gripes about viewing images in lyx-1.2. Rather than putting all in one large email, I preferred splitting things up, so they can be discussed separately. Let me state here that (despite my criticism) I greatly appreciate the effort the lyx team puts into giving us users the greatest document processor existing! I really think that the new mechanisms of handling graphics, defining formats and coverters and have the user decide how to convert what is great. Very flexible and powerful. Note, however, that I did not see this from the start. I am not used to be given this kind of power, and my first reaction was "Uh, this seems complicated, why do I need to mess with the converters now when everything was automatic before?". Basically, since now I _can_ fix things that don't work (converters not defined correctly, not the right version of xforms, ImageMagick ...), I am _responsible_ for fixing them. No need to say that things were far from perfect before, but since there was not much I could do about it, I put up with it. I guess the more power the developers give to the user, the more they need to hold the hands of those who are not interested in power, but in ease of use. Jan
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Minor display error
When inserting a graphics (or when converting old files without extension for the graphics file names), an empty box shows up representing the image to be loaded, along with some message. When inserting the correct file name, the image gets loaded, and is shown correctly outside the original box but has some weird display inside this box. This goes away immediately on the first redraw of the canvas and is harmless, but does not look very professional when trying to convince others how great Lyx is... Jan PS : I use lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7 and Linux(i386, Debian Potato). Both systems have xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Displaying png and ps files
This may have been discussed on the list before, but I didn't find it in the archives. Displaying png files I think I heard once on the list that png files can be displayed directly. Is this only true for the internal image loader or with the xforms loader, too? I have quite a few of them and not having to convert them each time I open my thesis would speed up things considerably. Displaying ps files --- Is there a bug with the ps loader in xforms 0.89.6? I display eps files by converting them to ps using "gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=$$o $$i" (I think this was suggested on the list at some point). Reasonably fast, and the resulting .ps looks ok in gv. However the file never shows up in lyx (lyx -dbg graphics says: ... Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading Jan PS : I use lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7 and Linux(i386, Debian Potato). Both systems have xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
By default a converter PNG->EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS->PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG->EPS->PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG->EPS converter, so that the PNG->XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. "lyx -dbg graphics" shows that lyx converts PNG->XPM->EPS->PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS->PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. Jan PS : This has been verified using lyx1.2.1cvs as of june 22 on Solaris(sparc) 2.7, xforms 0.89.6 and Image Magick 5.4.5.
