Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 09:31:44AM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Ok for the impatient here is the diff: ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz If you've a fast machine build it on your own. My oh so slow box is still working on the binary. Oh and I'm still unsure if it's a great idea to publish binarys from a one time action only initiated to proof something. It would be a lot better if someone would publish binarys who is actually using them and who is interested in keeping them fresh and up to date. Actually im building in a chroot located in /tmp which means it will be gone with the next reboot anyway. If someone would like to care for his *buntu fellows it would be nice to step up NOW. I'm not interested at all and a little bit pissed of already by some strange emails claiming that Debian packagers are responsible for what *buntu ships. Oh slightly off-topic of course ... I should stop whiningx ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 09:31:44AM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Ok for the impatient here is the diff: ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz If you've a fast machine build it on your own. My oh so slow box is still working on the binary. Oh and I'm still unsure if it's a great idea to publish binarys from a one time action only initiated to proof something. It would be a lot better if someone would publish binarys who is actually using them and who is interested in keeping them fresh and up to date. Actually im building in a chroot located in /tmp which means it will be gone with the next reboot anyway. If someone would like to care for his *buntu fellows it would be nice to step up NOW. I'm not interested at all and a little bit pissed of already by some strange emails claiming that Debian packagers are responsible for what *buntu ships. Oh slightly off-topic of course ... I should stop whiningx ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to > > build-dependendency issues. > > > Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 09:31:44AM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > > > Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to > > > build-dependendency issues. > > > > > Yep, I expected something like that. > > Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control > file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by > Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the > differences > between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between > Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Ok for the impatient here is the diff: ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz If you've a fast machine build it on your own. My oh so slow box is still working on the binary. Oh and I'm still unsure if it's a great idea to publish binarys from a one time action only initiated to proof something. It would be a lot better if someone would publish binarys who is actually using them and who is interested in keeping them fresh and up to date. Actually im building in a chroot located in /tmp which means it will be gone with the next reboot anyway. If someone would like to care for his *buntu fellows it would be nice to step up NOW. I'm not interested at all and a little bit pissed of already by some strange emails claiming that Debian packagers are responsible for what *buntu ships. Oh slightly off-topic of course ... I should stop whiningx ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:04:26 +0200 Von: Sven Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu Helge Hafting schrieb: Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be resolved by installing packages? I first tried the all meta package, and was also surprised that that led to 1.3.7 being installed. The other two debs (common and qt) then caused conflicts with an already installed lyx-qt or something similar, although I had removed that before (at least I thought I did, and synaptic didn't show me anything like that was left). Maybe I should have done it differently, but in that case those packages could use some brief step-through install guide. Anyway I just wanted to let people know the packages didn't work for me, on the chance that there's something wrong with them. As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: dpkg-reconfigure locales This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Yep thanks I will do that. -sven It is actually quite easy to generate locales on ubuntu though it is different from debian because dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work here anymore. The command is simply: sudo locale-gen de_DE and german umlauts will work. With respect to the packages on ftp.lyx.org and on the wiki it is best to install them with sudo dpkg -i *.deb But before, install lyx from the dapper repositories once to have all the dependencies and thereafter remove the old version completely with sudo apt-get remove --purge lyx lyx-qt lyx-common Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. phil
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: It is actually quite easy to generate locales on ubuntu though it is different from debian because dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work here anymore. The command is simply: sudo locale-gen de_DE and german umlauts will work. With respect to the packages on ftp.lyx.org and on the wiki it is best to install them with sudo dpkg -i *.deb But before, install lyx from the dapper repositories once to have all the dependencies and thereafter remove the old version completely with sudo apt-get remove --purge lyx lyx-qt lyx-common Thanks, that information is very useful. Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. cheers, sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:04:26 +0200 Von: Sven Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu Helge Hafting schrieb: Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be resolved by installing packages? I first tried the all meta package, and was also surprised that that led to 1.3.7 being installed. The other two debs (common and qt) then caused conflicts with an already installed lyx-qt or something similar, although I had removed that before (at least I thought I did, and synaptic didn't show me anything like that was left). Maybe I should have done it differently, but in that case those packages could use some brief step-through install guide. Anyway I just wanted to let people know the packages didn't work for me, on the chance that there's something wrong with them. As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: dpkg-reconfigure locales This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Yep thanks I will do that. -sven It is actually quite easy to generate locales on ubuntu though it is different from debian because dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work here anymore. The command is simply: sudo locale-gen de_DE and german umlauts will work. With respect to the packages on ftp.lyx.org and on the wiki it is best to install them with sudo dpkg -i *.deb But before, install lyx from the dapper repositories once to have all the dependencies and thereafter remove the old version completely with sudo apt-get remove --purge lyx lyx-qt lyx-common Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. phil
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: It is actually quite easy to generate locales on ubuntu though it is different from debian because dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work here anymore. The command is simply: sudo locale-gen de_DE and german umlauts will work. With respect to the packages on ftp.lyx.org and on the wiki it is best to install them with sudo dpkg -i *.deb But before, install lyx from the dapper repositories once to have all the dependencies and thereafter remove the old version completely with sudo apt-get remove --purge lyx lyx-qt lyx-common Thanks, that information is very useful. Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. cheers, sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:04:26 +0200 Von: Sven Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betreff: Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu > Helge Hafting schrieb: > > >> Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I > had > >> no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to > dependency > >> errors. > >> > > A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be > > resolved by installing > > packages? > > I first tried the "all" meta package, and was also surprised that that > led to 1.3.7 being installed. The other two debs (common and qt) then > caused conflicts with "an already installed lyx-qt" or something > similar, although I had removed that before (at least I thought I did, > and synaptic didn't show me anything like that was left). Maybe I should > have done it differently, but in that case those packages could use some > brief step-through install guide. > > Anyway I just wanted to let people know the packages didn't work for me, > on the chance that there's something wrong with them. > > > > As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. > > (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: > > dpkg-reconfigure locales > > This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. > > Yep thanks I will do that. > > -sven It is actually quite easy to generate locales on ubuntu though it is different from debian because dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work here anymore. The command is simply: sudo locale-gen de_DE and german umlauts will work. With respect to the packages on ftp.lyx.org and on the wiki it is best to install them with sudo dpkg -i *.deb But before, install lyx from the dapper repositories once to have all the dependencies and thereafter remove the old version completely with sudo apt-get remove --purge lyx lyx-qt lyx-common Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. phil
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > It is actually quite easy to generate locales on ubuntu though it is > different from debian because dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work here > anymore. The command is simply: > > sudo locale-gen de_DE > > and german umlauts will work. With respect to the packages on ftp.lyx.org and > on the wiki it is best to install them with > > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > > But before, install lyx from the dapper repositories once to have all the > dependencies and thereafter remove the old version completely with > > sudo apt-get remove --purge lyx lyx-qt lyx-common > Thanks, that information is very useful. > Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to > build-dependendency issues. > > > Yep, I expected something like that. cheers, sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Am Freitag, 15. September 2006 22:48 schrieb Sven Schreiber: Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but still no success with lyx menus. In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around to brushing up my Russian, that should do... So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? LyX needs latin1 (iso-8859-1), not latin9 (iso-8859-15). Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Georg Baum schrieb: Am Freitag, 15. September 2006 22:48 schrieb Sven Schreiber: Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but still no success with lyx menus. In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around to brushing up my Russian, that should do... So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? Okay, so I figured out now that the correct line to add to /var/lib/locales/supported.d/de (and maybe also to /etc/locales.gen, anyway I did both) is de_DE ISO-8859-1, instead of de_DE.iso88591 ISO-8859-1 which I had before (picked up from a dapper forum somewhere). Then run the famous sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and it works as advertised, even with the system locale == de_DE.utf8. (Of course, adapting this to your language of choice should be easy.) LyX needs latin1 (iso-8859-1), not latin9 (iso-8859-15). What exactly is lyx looking for anyway? Seems that exact spelling matters for these things. It's quite confusing, too (sigh) -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Am Samstag, 16. September 2006 17:42 schrieb Sven Schreiber: What exactly is lyx looking for anyway? See http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_4_X/lib/languages Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Am Freitag, 15. September 2006 22:48 schrieb Sven Schreiber: Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but still no success with lyx menus. In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around to brushing up my Russian, that should do... So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? LyX needs latin1 (iso-8859-1), not latin9 (iso-8859-15). Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Georg Baum schrieb: Am Freitag, 15. September 2006 22:48 schrieb Sven Schreiber: Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but still no success with lyx menus. In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around to brushing up my Russian, that should do... So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? Okay, so I figured out now that the correct line to add to /var/lib/locales/supported.d/de (and maybe also to /etc/locales.gen, anyway I did both) is de_DE ISO-8859-1, instead of de_DE.iso88591 ISO-8859-1 which I had before (picked up from a dapper forum somewhere). Then run the famous sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and it works as advertised, even with the system locale == de_DE.utf8. (Of course, adapting this to your language of choice should be easy.) LyX needs latin1 (iso-8859-1), not latin9 (iso-8859-15). What exactly is lyx looking for anyway? Seems that exact spelling matters for these things. It's quite confusing, too (sigh) -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Am Samstag, 16. September 2006 17:42 schrieb Sven Schreiber: What exactly is lyx looking for anyway? See http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_4_X/lib/languages Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Am Freitag, 15. September 2006 22:48 schrieb Sven Schreiber: > Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get > iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does > _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like > /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got > de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but > still no success with lyx menus. > > In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to > iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around > to brushing up my Russian, that should do... > > So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the > system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? LyX needs latin1 (iso-8859-1), not latin9 (iso-8859-15). Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Georg Baum schrieb: > Am Freitag, 15. September 2006 22:48 schrieb Sven Schreiber: >> Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get >> iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does >> _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like >> /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got >> de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but >> still no success with lyx menus. >> >> In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to >> iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around >> to brushing up my Russian, that should do... >> >> So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the >> system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? Okay, so I figured out now that the correct line to add to /var/lib/locales/supported.d/de (and maybe also to /etc/locales.gen, anyway I did both) is "de_DE ISO-8859-1", instead of "de_DE.iso88591 ISO-8859-1" which I had before (picked up from a dapper forum somewhere). Then run the famous sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and it works as advertised, even with the system locale == de_DE.utf8. (Of course, adapting this to your language of choice should be easy.) > > LyX needs latin1 (iso-8859-1), not latin9 (iso-8859-15). What exactly is lyx looking for anyway? Seems that exact spelling matters for these things. It's quite confusing, too (sigh) -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Am Samstag, 16. September 2006 17:42 schrieb Sven Schreiber: > What exactly is lyx looking for anyway? See http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_4_X/lib/languages Georg
lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). First I checked the lyx ftp server, but found no 1.4.2 binaries for ubuntu. Are there any? Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. Therefore I compiled from source, which worked relatively smoothly (after installing a ton of devel tools and libs, of course, and pointing to the qt dir). So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? Thanks for your help and info, Sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Schreiber wrote: So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) You have to make sure that the latin1 locale is installed. How to do that is in the list archives. You do _not_ need to change your locale to latin1 (by setting LANG and/or LC_* variables), LyX will do that internally, but the locale must of course be available. Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? I don't know what that means. Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Hoexter schrieb: On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) Thanks for the feedback, but I can find it only for edgy, not for dapper (current release, if I'm not mistaken). For dapper it's 1.3.7. -sven (the first ;-)
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). First I checked the lyx ftp server, but found no 1.4.2 binaries for ubuntu. Are there any? Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be resolved by installing packages? Therefore I compiled from source, which worked relatively smoothly (after installing a ton of devel tools and libs, of course, and pointing to the qt dir). So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) Lyx will display in whatever language and encoding the LANG environment variable is set to. I.e. use export LANG=nb_NO.ISO8859-1 for norwegian, something like export LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-1 for german. To get english, use LANG=en_EN... or just LANG=C for no translation. As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: dpkg-reconfigure locales This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? Lyx does not work perfectly with a utf-8 locale. You will get your ü's either way, but the spellchecker will trip up on everything non-ascii if you run lyx with a utf-8 locale. Helge Hafting
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Helge Hafting schrieb: Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be resolved by installing packages? I first tried the all meta package, and was also surprised that that led to 1.3.7 being installed. The other two debs (common and qt) then caused conflicts with an already installed lyx-qt or something similar, although I had removed that before (at least I thought I did, and synaptic didn't show me anything like that was left). Maybe I should have done it differently, but in that case those packages could use some brief step-through install guide. Anyway I just wanted to let people know the packages didn't work for me, on the chance that there's something wrong with them. As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: dpkg-reconfigure locales This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Yep thanks I will do that. -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Dirk Markert schrieb: Sven the first, you can find a download link for Dapper here: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download But you will still get wrong Umlaute with this build. That's very good to know, a little late for me now though. Is there a reason there is a separate binary list on the wiki, separate from the ftp server bin dir I mean? I like and use the wiki myself, but it seems in some cases there's a conflict with the official site that causes confusion. -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Georg Baum schrieb: Sven Schreiber wrote: You have to make sure that the latin1 locale is installed. How to do that is in the list archives. You do _not_ need to change your locale to latin1 (by setting LANG and/or LC_* variables), LyX will do that internally, but the locale must of course be available. Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but still no success with lyx menus. In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around to brushing up my Russian, that should do... So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? I don't know what that means. By now I guess that's for people upgrading from ubuntu 5 (presumably w/o utf8-locales). -sven
lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). First I checked the lyx ftp server, but found no 1.4.2 binaries for ubuntu. Are there any? Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. Therefore I compiled from source, which worked relatively smoothly (after installing a ton of devel tools and libs, of course, and pointing to the qt dir). So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? Thanks for your help and info, Sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Schreiber wrote: So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) You have to make sure that the latin1 locale is installed. How to do that is in the list archives. You do _not_ need to change your locale to latin1 (by setting LANG and/or LC_* variables), LyX will do that internally, but the locale must of course be available. Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? I don't know what that means. Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Hoexter schrieb: On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) Thanks for the feedback, but I can find it only for edgy, not for dapper (current release, if I'm not mistaken). For dapper it's 1.3.7. -sven (the first ;-)
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). First I checked the lyx ftp server, but found no 1.4.2 binaries for ubuntu. Are there any? Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be resolved by installing packages? Therefore I compiled from source, which worked relatively smoothly (after installing a ton of devel tools and libs, of course, and pointing to the qt dir). So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) Lyx will display in whatever language and encoding the LANG environment variable is set to. I.e. use export LANG=nb_NO.ISO8859-1 for norwegian, something like export LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-1 for german. To get english, use LANG=en_EN... or just LANG=C for no translation. As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: dpkg-reconfigure locales This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? Lyx does not work perfectly with a utf-8 locale. You will get your ü's either way, but the spellchecker will trip up on everything non-ascii if you run lyx with a utf-8 locale. Helge Hafting
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Helge Hafting schrieb: Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be resolved by installing packages? I first tried the all meta package, and was also surprised that that led to 1.3.7 being installed. The other two debs (common and qt) then caused conflicts with an already installed lyx-qt or something similar, although I had removed that before (at least I thought I did, and synaptic didn't show me anything like that was left). Maybe I should have done it differently, but in that case those packages could use some brief step-through install guide. Anyway I just wanted to let people know the packages didn't work for me, on the chance that there's something wrong with them. As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: dpkg-reconfigure locales This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Yep thanks I will do that. -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Dirk Markert schrieb: Sven the first, you can find a download link for Dapper here: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download But you will still get wrong Umlaute with this build. That's very good to know, a little late for me now though. Is there a reason there is a separate binary list on the wiki, separate from the ftp server bin dir I mean? I like and use the wiki myself, but it seems in some cases there's a conflict with the official site that causes confusion. -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Georg Baum schrieb: Sven Schreiber wrote: You have to make sure that the latin1 locale is installed. How to do that is in the list archives. You do _not_ need to change your locale to latin1 (by setting LANG and/or LC_* variables), LyX will do that internally, but the locale must of course be available. Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but still no success with lyx menus. In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around to brushing up my Russian, that should do... So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? I don't know what that means. By now I guess that's for people upgrading from ubuntu 5 (presumably w/o utf8-locales). -sven
lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). First I checked the lyx ftp server, but found no 1.4.2 binaries for ubuntu. Are there any? Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. Therefore I compiled from source, which worked relatively smoothly (after installing a ton of devel tools and libs, of course, and pointing to the qt dir). So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? Thanks for your help and info, Sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Schreiber wrote: > So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do > not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so > some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, > I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back > eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in > the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) You have to make sure that the latin1 locale is installed. How to do that is in the list archives. You do _not_ need to change your locale to latin1 (by setting LANG and/or LC_* variables), LyX will do that internally, but the locale must of course be available. > Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would > that help, or would it make things worse? I don't know what that means. Georg
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: > Dear all, > I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on > ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Hoexter schrieb: > On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: >> Dear all, >> I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on >> ubuntu (current/6.06). > Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest > Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile > them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features > something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable > releases. > > Cheers, > Sven (another one) Thanks for the feedback, but I can find it only for "edgy", not for "dapper" (current release, if I'm not mistaken). For dapper it's 1.3.7. -sven (the first ;-)
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). First I checked the lyx ftp server, but found no 1.4.2 binaries for ubuntu. Are there any? Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency errors. A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be resolved by installing packages? Therefore I compiled from source, which worked relatively smoothly (after installing a ton of devel tools and libs, of course, and pointing to the qt dir). So I now have lyx 1.4.2 running. One glitch though: the German menus do not display the Umlaute (ä, ö, ü), instead they have other symbols, so some encoding issue messes that up. How can this be solved? (Actually, I'm used to working with the English menus so I will switch back eventually, but I won't ask here how to do that because I'm sure it's in the manual and that's would you're gonna tell me, right? :-) Lyx will display in whatever language and encoding the LANG environment variable is set to. I.e. use export LANG=nb_NO.ISO8859-1 for norwegian, something like export LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-1 for german. To get english, use LANG=en_EN... or just LANG=C for no translation. As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: dpkg-reconfigure locales This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would that help, or would it make things worse? Lyx does not work perfectly with a utf-8 locale. You will get your ü's either way, but the spellchecker will trip up on everything non-ascii if you run lyx with a utf-8 locale. Helge Hafting
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Helge Hafting schrieb: >> Then I downloaded the 1.4.1 binaries in the ubuntu/dapper dir, but I had >> no luck with them. They either gave me 1.3.7 or failed due to dependency >> errors. >> > A 1.4.1 binary should not give you 1.3.7? The dependencies could not be > resolved by installing > packages? I first tried the "all" meta package, and was also surprised that that led to 1.3.7 being installed. The other two debs (common and qt) then caused conflicts with "an already installed lyx-qt" or something similar, although I had removed that before (at least I thought I did, and synaptic didn't show me anything like that was left). Maybe I should have done it differently, but in that case those packages could use some brief step-through install guide. Anyway I just wanted to let people know the packages didn't work for me, on the chance that there's something wrong with them. > As others have pointed out, the locale you use must exist on the system. > (Except for C). On debian, which is similar to ubunt, we use: > dpkg-reconfigure locales > This gets you a list of possible locales. Enable those you need. Yep thanks I will do that. -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Dirk Markert schrieb: > Sven the first, > > you can find a download link for Dapper here: > > http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download > > But you will still get wrong Umlaute with this build. > > That's very good to know, a little late for me now though. Is there a reason there is a separate binary list on the wiki, separate from the ftp server bin dir I mean? I like and use the wiki myself, but it seems in some cases there's a conflict with the official site that causes confusion. -sven
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
Georg Baum schrieb: > Sven Schreiber wrote: > > > You have to make sure that the latin1 locale is installed. How to do that is > in the list archives. You do _not_ need to change your locale to latin1 (by > setting LANG and/or LC_* variables), LyX will do that internally, but the > locale must of course be available. Turns out that apparently on ubuntu dapper (6) it's not so easy to get iso8859 locales. What's in the mailing list (taken from debian) does _not_ work, dapper only gives you utf8. I had to edit files like /horrible_path_to/supported.d/de (de for German in my case), then I got de_DE.iso88591 (and btw also the euro/15 variant) with locale -a, but still no success with lyx menus. In the end I installed localeconf and switched the default locale to iso-8859-15. (don't forget to log off and on again) Until I get around to brushing up my Russian, that should do... So the 8859-locale is installed, but it doesn't work with lyx if the system locale is de_DE.utf8. I don't really understand why? > >> Also, I found some ubuntu tool to convert the locale to utf-8. Would >> that help, or would it make things worse? > > I don't know what that means. By now I guess that's for people upgrading from ubuntu 5 (presumably w/o utf8-locales). -sven
