Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Ok I logged into Bing and added Bitchin100. Maybe that's all I have to do.

Also robots.txt was empty so I made it explicitly permissive. I don't think
I needed to do that but it should be equivalent.

-- John.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 11:23 PM B 9  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 7:21 PM Brian K. White 
> wrote:
>
>> [...] It's like bitchin100 is blacklisted on
>> DDG, (and thus, probably on Bing too). [...]
>>
>
> Blacklisting had never occurred to me. Bitchin100 shows up in Google
> results, but usually it's not the first result or even on the first page
> (like for "Model 100 serial rts cts
> ").
> In the back of my mind, I had presumed bitchin100 had a robots.txt
> forbidding indexing. It was actually a surprise to me when "model 100 uart
> " actually
> worked, but I had only searched for that because I already knew "UART" was
> used on the page John shared.
>
> I checked using site: 
> and DDG has nothing indexed for bitchin100 at all. Bing does one better, it
> shows no results and reports that *"Some results were removed"*:
>
> https://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Abitchin100.com
>
> Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be any way to see what's going on
> without using Bing's Webmasters tools
> , which can only be done by the
> owner of the domain.
>
> —b9
>


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread Brian White
wow, that article and the others linked from there are quite enlightening.

I hate to help create a monoculture and single supplier and overlord, but
it looks like Bing and all of it's resellers should just not be used.

That really sucks because I really hate how much power g already has.

You'd think Bing or any search engine should want to accept reports from
any random user not just site owners, and it shouldn't matter if a site
owner is willing to satisfy them. It is valuable to some site owners to be
listed, so for some there may be that power dynamic where the engine may
dictate to sites and sites will perform.

But what about the users? The engine purports to be providing a service of
search results to me a searching user. So in the apparently polyanna
fantasy world I should be able to say to Bing "hey, bug report, here is
some stuff on the net that you're failing to show" and they should consider
that a problem just based on that logic, regardless whether the site owner
cares to have any special relationship with Bing.

It's almost like Bing doesn't show you what exists, it just shows you the
sites that pay to be seen. Not literally in money but in cooperation in
whatever kind of user manipulation game they are playing.

I know google exerts the same sort of editorial control themselves though,
so, it's not like they're really any better in principle.

-- 
bkw

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 1:16 AM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 7:21 PM Brian K. White 
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/22 18:59, B 9 wrote:
>> > On a tangent: I need to work on my searching skills. It occurred to me
>> a
>> > while ago that the Tandy 200 schematic looked like the RTS/CTS lines
>> > were fully wired, but when I searched for things like "model 100 serial
>> > port rts cts", I never saw that page... Oh! Wait. The problem may have
>> > been that I was googling with DuckDuckGo. I'm able to get
>> bitchin100.com
>> >  as the first result when I search for "model
>> 100
>> > uart", but only on Google.
>>
>>
>> I have noticed this for probably 2 or more years now. I've been meaning
>> to say something but never did. It's like bitchin100 is blacklisted on
>> DDG, (and thus, probably on Bing too). Not only do none of the wiki
>> pages show up, even if you search for literally "bitchin100.com", you
>> can scroll for pages and pages of results forever and never get a single
>> link to any bitchin100.com url, only references to it in other pages,
>> mostly archived mail list posts on Narkive.
>>
>>
> I don't know. I only ever search on Google. The progression for me was
> Gopher, then Altavista, Yahoo, and now Google. Each better than the last,
> haven't felt any compelling need to switch again. Privacy? That ship has
> sailed, went into orbit, crashed into the an asteroid, merged with
> alien spores and is sentient.
>
> And DDG/Bing already don't like me, so...
>
> Maybe Dreamhost IPs are the issue?
>
> As to spammers, some spam was loaded onto the wiki at some point, but it
> wasn't there very long and I cleaned it up. I think it probably predates
> DDG and Bing, and Google has never cared. But that spam attack is why I
> make accounts upon request from members.
>
> URL rewriting... I could do that. But I don't see how it would help.  I
> cannot think of a URL scheme that you could easily infer article titles.
>
> Most of Bitchin100 is the wiki. To link, I type bitchin100.com/wiki into
> my url bar, then search in the mediawiki search, find the result, and then
> copy and paste the URL.
>
> "tandy.wiki/REX"
>
> Most of the articles on bitchin100 have longer titles.
>
> B100 links are like
>
> bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Model_100_Serial_Interface
>
> rewriting I guess could skip the "wiki/index.php?title=" boilerplate.
>
> But you'd still need memorize the exact article title... 9/10 I'd end up
> having to search anyway... so I don't see the difference.
>
>
> Here's an interesting article on Bing/DDG
>
>
> https://www.jessesquires.com/blog/2022/03/25/my-website-disappeared-from-bing-and-duckduckgo/
>
> Sounds like Bing is the way to get your site into DDG.
>
> -- John.
>


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread B 9
On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 4:28 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 4:00 PM B 9  wrote:
>
>> I wonder when the last book for Model T tinkerers was published? So much
>> new knowledge has been found since then.
>> The best books I've seen are
>>
>
> Inside The Model 100 (Oppedahl)
> Hidden Powers of the TRS-80 Model 100 (Morgan)
>

Oppedahl's "Inside the M100"
 (1985) definitely
looks like a good book to read. I got a glimpse of it recently when I was
searching for a better description of the attribute flag in the RAM
Directory. (Side note: I notice that Carl Oppedahl now apparently runs a
patent/trademark/copyright law firm that still sells his book
, first published
in 1985! Unfortunately, they don't ship to my location.)

I haven't read Morgan's "Hidden Powers
" (1984), yet,
but I recognize that cover. And I remember now trying to read it. I think I
got bogged down at the very start where he says, “First, type in these five
pages of code so we'll have a disassembler”. I wandered off to look for a
disassembler for my Tandy 200 and never came back.


While Tips, Peeks, and Pokes
>> 
>> (Anderson, 1985) can't be said to be coherent, it is a carefully curated
>> collection of short, non-obvious tips, expressed succinctly.
>>
>> I've never read it, I will have to check it out.
>

I found it useful, but I'm starting from a very different place than you.
Also, I should warn you, it's not very pretty to look at. I don't know how
you feel about line printer text, but it appears Anderson may have actually
written, formatted, and printed his book on a Model 100. You can read it
here:


https://archive.org/details/ProgrammingTipsPeeksAndPokesForTheTandyPortableComputers/



> Yeah I've been thinking about writing something. It would mostly be a
> research project. And there's a lot I don't know, and a lot that only a few
> ever knew.
>
> How about
>
> "TRS-80 Model 100 Pet Tricks: Rediscovering The Lost Dark Art of
> Performant BASIC and ML Programming"
>

Sign me up for the pre-order. I'd read anything titled that!
(Although, I admit I had a brief moment of cognitive dissonance trying to
figure out what the Commodore PET computer had to do with the Model T.)

—b9

>


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread Brian White
I just can't get over some of that stuff from Bing about "we like quality
sites..."

who the what the ever loving F , where do you even begin with that

bkw

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 3:20 AM Brian White  wrote:

> wow, that article and the others linked from there are quite enlightening.
>
> I hate to help create a monoculture and single supplier and overlord, but
> it looks like Bing and all of it's resellers should just not be used.
>
> That really sucks because I really hate how much power g already has.
>
> You'd think Bing or any search engine should want to accept reports from
> any random user not just site owners, and it shouldn't matter if a site
> owner is willing to satisfy them. It is valuable to some site owners to be
> listed, so for some there may be that power dynamic where the engine may
> dictate to sites and sites will perform.
>
> But what about the users? The engine purports to be providing a service of
> search results to me a searching user. So in the apparently polyanna
> fantasy world I should be able to say to Bing "hey, bug report, here is
> some stuff on the net that you're failing to show" and they should consider
> that a problem just based on that logic, regardless whether the site owner
> cares to have any special relationship with Bing.
>
> It's almost like Bing doesn't show you what exists, it just shows you the
> sites that pay to be seen. Not literally in money but in cooperation in
> whatever kind of user manipulation game they are playing.
>
> I know google exerts the same sort of editorial control themselves though,
> so, it's not like they're really any better in principle.
>
> --
> bkw
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 1:16 AM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 7:21 PM Brian K. White 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/11/22 18:59, B 9 wrote:
>>> > On a tangent: I need to work on my searching skills. It occurred to me
>>> a
>>> > while ago that the Tandy 200 schematic looked like the RTS/CTS lines
>>> > were fully wired, but when I searched for things like "model 100
>>> serial
>>> > port rts cts", I never saw that page... Oh! Wait. The problem may have
>>> > been that I was googling with DuckDuckGo. I'm able to get
>>> bitchin100.com
>>> >  as the first result when I search for "model
>>> 100
>>> > uart", but only on Google.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have noticed this for probably 2 or more years now. I've been meaning
>>> to say something but never did. It's like bitchin100 is blacklisted on
>>> DDG, (and thus, probably on Bing too). Not only do none of the wiki
>>> pages show up, even if you search for literally "bitchin100.com", you
>>> can scroll for pages and pages of results forever and never get a single
>>> link to any bitchin100.com url, only references to it in other pages,
>>> mostly archived mail list posts on Narkive.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know. I only ever search on Google. The progression for me was
>> Gopher, then Altavista, Yahoo, and now Google. Each better than the last,
>> haven't felt any compelling need to switch again. Privacy? That ship has
>> sailed, went into orbit, crashed into the an asteroid, merged with
>> alien spores and is sentient.
>>
>> And DDG/Bing already don't like me, so...
>>
>> Maybe Dreamhost IPs are the issue?
>>
>> As to spammers, some spam was loaded onto the wiki at some point, but it
>> wasn't there very long and I cleaned it up. I think it probably predates
>> DDG and Bing, and Google has never cared. But that spam attack is why I
>> make accounts upon request from members.
>>
>> URL rewriting... I could do that. But I don't see how it would help.  I
>> cannot think of a URL scheme that you could easily infer article titles.
>>
>> Most of Bitchin100 is the wiki. To link, I type bitchin100.com/wiki into
>> my url bar, then search in the mediawiki search, find the result, and then
>> copy and paste the URL.
>>
>> "tandy.wiki/REX"
>>
>> Most of the articles on bitchin100 have longer titles.
>>
>> B100 links are like
>>
>> bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Model_100_Serial_Interface
>>
>> rewriting I guess could skip the "wiki/index.php?title=" boilerplate.
>>
>> But you'd still need memorize the exact article title... 9/10 I'd end up
>> having to search anyway... so I don't see the difference.
>>
>>
>> Here's an interesting article on Bing/DDG
>>
>>
>> https://www.jessesquires.com/blog/2022/03/25/my-website-disappeared-from-bing-and-duckduckgo/
>>
>> Sounds like Bing is the way to get your site into DDG.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Another problem is probably lack of links to bitchin100.

I need more friends...

-- John.

>


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:27 AM B 9  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 4:28 PM John R. Hogerhuis 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 4:00 PM B 9  wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder when the last book for Model T tinkerers was published? So much
>>> new knowledge has been found since then.
>>> The best books I've seen are
>>>
>>
>> Inside The Model 100 (Oppedahl)
>> Hidden Powers of the TRS-80 Model 100 (Morgan)
>>
>
> Oppedahl's "Inside the M100"
>  (1985) definitely
> looks like a good book to read. I got a glimpse of it recently when I was
> searching for a better description of the attribute flag in the RAM
> Directory. (Side note: I notice that Carl Oppedahl now apparently runs a
> patent/trademark/copyright law firm that still sells his book
> , first
> published in 1985!
>

That is awesome. I have two printed copies. Maybe he sent them to me? I
share orphan works... I'd rather they not be orphaned and buy them.


> Unfortunately, they don't ship to my location.)
>
>
Bummer... guess you'll have to live with samizdat


> I haven't read Morgan's "Hidden Powers
> " (1984),
> yet, but I recognize that cover. And I remember now trying to read it. I
> think I got bogged down at the very start where he says, “First, type in
> these five pages of code so we'll have a disassembler”. I wandered off to
> look for a disassembler for my Tandy 200 and never came back.
>
>
> While Tips, Peeks, and Pokes
>>> 
>>> (Anderson, 1985) can't be said to be coherent, it is a carefully curated
>>> collection of short, non-obvious tips, expressed succinctly.
>>>
>>> I've never read it, I will have to check it out.
>>
>
> I found it useful, but I'm starting from a very different place than you.
> Also, I should warn you, it's not very pretty to look at. I don't know how
> you feel about line printer text, but it appears Anderson may have actually
> written, formatted, and printed his book on a Model 100. You can read it
> here:
>
>
> https://archive.org/details/ProgrammingTipsPeeksAndPokesForTheTandyPortableComputers/
>
>
Thanks

>
>
>> Yeah I've been thinking about writing something. It would mostly be a
>> research project. And there's a lot I don't know, and a lot that only a few
>> ever knew.
>>
>> How about
>>
>> "TRS-80 Model 100 Pet Tricks: Rediscovering The Lost Dark Art of
>> Performant BASIC and ML Programming"
>>
>
> Sign me up for the pre-order. I'd read anything titled that!
> (Although, I admit I had a brief moment of cognitive dissonance trying to
> figure out what the Commodore PET computer had to do with the Model T.)
>
>

Hmm yeah. Meant "Stupid Pet Tricks"

Cover will be a picture of me with lockdown beard and a Model 100 strapped
on the back of my 286cc motorcycle. Where is he going? Nowhere exceedingly
fast, but he's wringing it out for everything it's worth!

-- John.

>


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread Daryl Tester

On 12/11/22 18:55, Brian White wrote:


I just can't get over some of that stuff from Bing about "we like quality 
sites..."


Plus the usual support mantra of "you did something wrong, we're not telling 
you what it
is", him doing absolutely nothing to his website, then presto, it suddenly 
works again.

And yes, Google are just as bad. I wish that DDG would just stop using these 
tainted
sources and run their own.

John H. wrote:


Another problem is probably lack of links to bitchin100.



I need more friends...


That whole link farming thing is too easy to abuse. Determining quality content
programmatically is hard ...

Cheers,
  --dt


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
> Cover will be a picture of me with lockdown beard and a Model 100 strapped on 
> the back of my 286cc motorcycle. Where is he going? Nowhere exceedingly fast

I'll admit my primary interest in this notional book -- a high interest, I 
should add -- is in its content, the bike and beard will certainly add to buyer 
satisfaction in my case.

Somewhat more seriously, this is something I do care deeply about at a larger 
level.  There's knowledge and systems understanding, some only recently 
uncovered, at risk of disappearing into time unless we leave some marks on the 
cave walls, and I encourage you and anyone else with a story to share, a design 
insight to show off, or the benefit of experience, to consider publication.  
More than a few such folks are gathered here.




[M100] Club100 Personal Library

2022-11-12 Thread Jason White
Is there a way to create an account on Club100 anymore? I've tried and it looks 
like I've created an account, but when I try to log in, it wont let me. I would 
like to create a library there and upload some of my programs that don't seem 
to be anywhere.
Thanks,
J Whitejwse30


Re: [M100] Club100 Personal Library

2022-11-12 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
> On Nov 12, 2022, at 6:07 AM, Jason White  wrote:
> I would like to create a library there and upload some of my programs that 
> don't seem to be anywhere.

Hi, Jason.

I don't have any control over Club100 whatsoever, but I would gladly publicly 
mirror any M100 related files you (or anyone else) would like to share.  Please 
feel free to reach out off-list.

Re: [M100] Club100 Personal Library

2022-11-12 Thread Ken Pettit

Jason,

When you try to "Register", do you get an error message or anything?

Ken

On 11/12/22 6:14 AM, Joshua O'Keefe wrote:

On Nov 12, 2022, at 6:07 AM, Jason White  wrote:
I would like to create a library there and upload some of my programs 
that don't seem to be anywhere.






Re: [M100] Club100 Personal Library

2022-11-12 Thread Gregory McGill
I have upload access at ftp.whtech.com can upload whatever you like

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 6:14 AM Joshua O'Keefe 
wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2022, at 6:07 AM, Jason White  wrote:
> I would like to create a library there and upload some of my programs that
> don't seem to be anywhere.
>
>
> Hi, Jason.
>
> I don't have any control over Club100 whatsoever, but I would gladly
> publicly mirror any M100 related files you (or anyone else) would like to
> share.  Please feel free to reach out off-list.
>


Re: [M100] Club100 Personal Library

2022-11-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Ken is the maintainer of club100 and the personal libraries. I'm sure he
will help you get that going.

As others have suggesting hosting, we have it at bitchin100 through the
wiki. Other than creating an initial account which I do, uploads are self
service.

Lots of choices!

-- John.


Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help speeding it up appreciated

2022-11-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Well if there is that much interest I will give it a try. I know some stuff
but like I said it will be more of a research project but you all will be
leaner upon, there is the list archive for detailed discussions I know we
all have had, and probably other groups are around with serious Dartmouth /
Microsoft BASIC byte and cycle count fighters.But the focus will be the
model 100 maybe with cross reference for 8201 and 200. It will limit the
audience from small to smaller but you cannot be everything to everybody.

Should be fun!

I think there will be one chapter named 12777

-- John


Re: [M100] Club100 Personal Library

2022-11-12 Thread Jason White





Message: 17
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 06:27:39 -0800
From: Ken Pettit 
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] Club100 Personal Library
Message-ID: <636fad5b.9080...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

>Jason,

>When you try to "Register", do you get an >error message or anything?

>Ken

Ken,
I tried it again this morning and it asked me to activate the account, but I 
don’t recall getting an email and there’s nothing in my spam folder either. I 
searched for Club100 in my emails to no avail. I suppose it’s possible I 
mistyped my email address when registering. 
J White

Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread Peter Noeth
I have never had Bing searches exclude results from bitchen100.com. I have
had the default DNS server that my ISP loads when I start my web browser
(MS New Edge on Win7), fail to find known webpages, by name. I switched the
browser DNS server to Google, and haven't had any more problems.

Regards,
Peter


Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
It's happening to me.

Try this search on Bing versus Google

model 100 rex site:bitchin100.com

On bing it says "Some results have been removed'

Actually it produces not results, so ALL results have been removed.

On Google you get what you're looking for.

And clearly this is on purpose, but they don't give any clear recourse for
correcting it.

-- John.

[image: image.png]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 5:11 PM Peter Noeth  wrote:

> I have never had Bing searches exclude results from bitchen100.com. I
> have had the default DNS server that my ISP loads when I start my web
> browser (MS New Edge on Win7), fail to find known webpages, by name. I
> switched the browser DNS server to Google, and haven't had any more
> problems.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>


Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread Carlos Nunez
FWIW, I just tried searching for this term:model 100 bitchin100On Google, Bing and Duck Duck Go, and all three returned many results.Maybe it’s a syntax issue with Bing?On Nov 13, 2022, at 10:01 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:It's happening to me.Try this search on Bing versus Googlemodel 100 rex site:bitchin100.comOn bing it says "Some results have been removed'Actually it produces not results, so ALL results have been removed.On Google you get what you're looking for.And clearly this is on purpose, but they don't give any clear recourse for correcting it.-- John.On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 5:11 PM Peter Noeth  wrote:I have never had Bing searches exclude results from bitchen100.com. I have had the default DNS server that my ISP loads when I start my web browser (MS New Edge on Win7), fail to find known webpages, by name. I switched the browser DNS server to Google, and haven't had any more problems. Regards,Peter



Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread Doug Jackson
Whats Bing?

Kindest regards,

Doug Jackson

em: d...@doughq.com
ph: 0414 986878



On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 at 13:19, Carlos Nunez  wrote:

> FWIW, I just tried searching for this term:
>
> model 100 bitchin100
>
> On Google, Bing and Duck Duck Go, and all three returned many results.
>
> Maybe it’s a syntax issue with Bing?
>
> On Nov 13, 2022, at 10:01 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>
> 
> It's happening to me.
>
> Try this search on Bing versus Google
>
> model 100 rex site:bitchin100.com
>
> On bing it says "Some results have been removed'
>
> Actually it produces not results, so ALL results have been removed.
>
> On Google you get what you're looking for.
>
> And clearly this is on purpose, but they don't give any clear recourse for
> correcting it.
>
> -- John.
>
> 
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 5:11 PM Peter Noeth  wrote:
>
>> I have never had Bing searches exclude results from bitchen100.com. I
>> have had the default DNS server that my ISP loads when I start my web
>> browser (MS New Edge on Win7), fail to find known webpages, by name. I
>> switched the browser DNS server to Google, and haven't had any more
>> problems.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>>
>>


Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 6:19 PM Carlos Nunez  wrote:

> FWIW, I just tried searching for this term:
>
> model 100 bitchin100
>
> On Google, Bing and Duck Duck Go, and all three returned many results.
>

At least on bing, I did the same search, yes it returns a lot of results
with the string bitchin100 in it but none of those results are actually
from bitchin100.

It seems my site was explicitly removed but I haven't read anything that
says how to find out why.

-- John.


Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread Daryl Tester

On 13/11/22 14:28, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:


It seems my site was explicitly removed but I haven't read anything that says 
how to find out why.


According to the blog that Brian(?) posted, and the links from there, their 
reasons are arbitrary
and capricious.  As the blog poster wrote, he did nothing when Bing responded 
to his complaint
saying that it was his fault for violating their "guidelines", yet he continued 
to do nothing and
the results silently returned.

"It was the algorithms what done it."

Cheers,
  --dt


Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread Doug Jackson
To be actually serious for a minute.

There is a reason for my flippant 'What's Bing' comment - It is an
extremely unreliable search tool that a surprisingly large number of people
ignore.

Kindest regards,

Doug Jackson

em: d...@doughq.com
ph: 0414 986878



On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 at 15:20, Daryl Tester <
dt-m...@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote:

> On 13/11/22 14:28, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>
> > It seems my site was explicitly removed but I haven't read anything that
> says how to find out why.
>
> According to the blog that Brian(?) posted, and the links from there,
> their reasons are arbitrary
> and capricious.  As the blog poster wrote, he did nothing when Bing
> responded to his complaint
> saying that it was his fault for violating their "guidelines", yet he
> continued to do nothing and
> the results silently returned.
>
> "It was the algorithms what done it."
>
> Cheers,
>--dt
>


Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread Brian K. White

On 11/12/22 21:19, Carlos Nunez wrote:

FWIW, I just tried searching for this term:

model 100 bitchin100

On Google, Bing and Duck Duck Go, and all three returned many results.


"many results" is not the problem.
If you look closer, I bet you will find none of the results are actually 
bitchin100.com urls.


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Re: [M100] Bitchin' 100 on Bing

2022-11-12 Thread Brian K. White

On 11/12/22 23:19, Daryl Tester wrote:
According to the blog that Brian(?) posted, and the links from there, 
their reasons are arbitrary

and capricious.


John posted it. I just said "wow' to it.

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