Re: page up or down with vo
I experience the same problem. Despite Anne's very helpful advice I am still not able to relocate the cursor either page up or down with the commands suggested. Christo On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:13, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hello all: last week there were some messages about moving text with VO in a document. Somebody advised to use CMD Arrows to go to the beginning and end of lines and documents. But how to go one page up or down? If I use my fingers on the trackpad, Vo announces the next or previous page, but the cursor won't move. Any ideas to do a voiceover effective page up or down? Thanks! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
Greetings, I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS solutions. 1. Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app that works with something like Google Maps. It would really be even better if one could get turn-by-turn instructions. 2. I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several countries. The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be solved. 3. Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with VoiceOver cost? My thanks to all, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
Mike, Personally I think that Navigon s the best. First, it does have the ability to work in Europe, and the U.S. Second, it's reasonably priced anywhere from $30 U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end. It doesn't use goggle maps, but it does use the navteq mapping solution. As far as i can recall, it has maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but don't hold me to the later. Hope this helps, Justin On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Greetings, I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS solutions. 1. Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app that works with something like Google Maps. It would really be even better if one could get turn-by-turn instructions. 2. I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several countries. The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be solved. 3. Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with VoiceOver cost? My thanks to all, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
This is helpful indeed, Justin! In terms of the maps, do you download entire regions prior to using the software, or are the maps downloaded from the cloud as you travel through a given area? Thank you very much, Mike On 30,Jan,2012, at 12:36 PM, Justin Mann wrote: Mike, Personally I think that Navigon s the best. First, it does have the ability to work in Europe, and the U.S. Second, it's reasonably priced anywhere from $30 U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end. It doesn't use goggle maps, but it does use the navteq mapping solution. As far as i can recall, it has maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but don't hold me to the later. Hope this helps, Justin On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Greetings, I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS solutions. 1. Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app that works with something like Google Maps. It would really be even better if one could get turn-by-turn instructions. 2. I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several countries. The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be solved. 3. Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with VoiceOver cost? My thanks to all, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
I forgot to ask one other question, Justin: Is there an accessible app for the iPhone or iPad that would allow one to use Google Maps? Thanks again, Mike On 30,Jan,2012, at 12:36 PM, Justin Mann wrote: Mike, Personally I think that Navigon s the best. First, it does have the ability to work in Europe, and the U.S. Second, it's reasonably priced anywhere from $30 U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end. It doesn't use goggle maps, but it does use the navteq mapping solution. As far as i can recall, it has maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but don't hold me to the later. Hope this helps, Justin On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Greetings, I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS solutions. 1. Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app that works with something like Google Maps. It would really be even better if one could get turn-by-turn instructions. 2. I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several countries. The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be solved. 3. Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with VoiceOver cost? My thanks to all, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
The maps app is built into all iOS devices as far as I know. On 30/01/2012 13:49, Michael Busboom wrote: I forgot to ask one other question, Justin: Is there an accessible app for the iPhone or iPad that would allow one to use Google Maps? Thanks again, Mike On 30,Jan,2012, at 12:36 PM, Justin Mann wrote: Mike, Personally I think that Navigon s the best. First, it does have the ability to work in Europe, and the U.S. Second, it's reasonably priced anywhere from $30 U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end. It doesn't use goggle maps, but it does use the navteq mapping solution. As far as i can recall, it has maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but don't hold me to the later. Hope this helps, Justin On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Greetings, I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS solutions. 1. Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app that works with something like Google Maps. It would really be even better if one could get turn-by-turn instructions. 2. I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several countries. The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be solved. 3. Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with VoiceOver cost? My thanks to all, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
Greetings Mike, Motionx GPS Drive uses GoogleMaps, and has a setting where they can be cached on the IOS device. This would minimize data usage, and since you can always go to the cloud to retrieve current maps, they should in theory be always more current. IMHO, from a VoiceOver perspective MotionX is a bit quirkier than Navigon initially, in that many items are not labeled. For that reason you probably would not use Motionx to search for businesses, but other apps such as WhereTo and AroundMe accomplish this and integrate with Navigon and Motionx, which, considering the price difference renders the Motionx POI search inaccessibility a non factor. I have Navigon and am very satisfied, but if I was making the choice today would go with Motionx. To answer your previous question, Navigon stores all maps on the phone. They now require a subscription to keep the maps up to date. Unlike most reviewers at the app store, I don't begrudge them ten dollars a year, since they do need to pay their provider and have not passed those costs to me for over two years before implementing the policy. In the US app store Motionx costs $2.99 (I believe it may still be on sale for $1.99). This includes one month of voice guidance. The app can be used without voice guidance to plan routes, etc, or you have the option via in-app purchase to subscribe to voice guidance for $3/mo or $20/year. By contrast, Navigon NorthAmerica's fresh maps option costs $20 for two years. I suspect one major advantage of Motionx in your case is that unlike Navigon, you would not need to purchase two apps in order to use it in both Europe and NorthAmerica. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Michael Busboom To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? I forgot to ask one other question, Justin: Is there an accessible app for the iPhone or iPad that would allow one to use Google Maps? Thanks again, Mike On 30,Jan,2012, at 12:36 PM, Justin Mann wrote: Mike, Personally I think that Navigon s the best. First, it does have the ability to work in Europe, and the U.S. Second, it's reasonably priced anywhere from $30 U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end. It doesn't use goggle maps, but it does use the navteq mapping solution. As far as i can recall, it has maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but don't hold me to the later. Hope this helps, Justin On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Greetings, I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS solutions. 1. Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app that works with something like Google Maps. It would really be even better if one could get turn-by-turn instructions. 2. I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several countries. The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be solved. 3. Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with VoiceOver cost? My thanks to all, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages
Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
Wonderfully instructive and helpful, Geoff, thanks! I think I will have to get a 4S with 64GB if I start downloading maps onto my phone. I will contact you either by phone or off-list with some more questions. Thanks again, Mike On 30,Jan,2012, at 4:39 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Mike, Motionx GPS Drive uses GoogleMaps, and has a setting where they can be cached on the IOS device. This would minimize data usage, and since you can always go to the cloud to retrieve current maps, they should in theory be always more current. IMHO, from a VoiceOver perspective MotionX is a bit quirkier than Navigon initially, in that many items are not labeled. For that reason you probably would not use Motionx to search for businesses, but other apps such as WhereTo and AroundMe accomplish this and integrate with Navigon and Motionx, which, considering the price difference renders the Motionx POI search inaccessibility a non factor. I have Navigon and am very satisfied, but if I was making the choice today would go with Motionx. To answer your previous question, Navigon stores all maps on the phone. They now require a subscription to keep the maps up to date. Unlike most reviewers at the app store, I don't begrudge them ten dollars a year, since they do need to pay their provider and have not passed those costs to me for over two years before implementing the policy. In the US app store Motionx costs $2.99 (I believe it may still be on sale for $1.99). This includes one month of voice guidance. The app can be used without voice guidance to plan routes, etc, or you have the option via in-app purchase to subscribe to voice guidance for $3/mo or $20/year. By contrast, Navigon NorthAmerica's fresh maps option costs $20 for two years. I suspect one major advantage of Motionx in your case is that unlike Navigon, you would not need to purchase two apps in order to use it in both Europe and NorthAmerica. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Michael Busboom To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? I forgot to ask one other question, Justin: Is there an accessible app for the iPhone or iPad that would allow one to use Google Maps? Thanks again, Mike On 30,Jan,2012, at 12:36 PM, Justin Mann wrote: Mike, Personally I think that Navigon s the best. First, it does have the ability to work in Europe, and the U.S. Second, it's reasonably priced anywhere from $30 U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end. It doesn't use goggle maps, but it does use the navteq mapping solution. As far as i can recall, it has maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but don't hold me to the later. Hope this helps, Justin On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Greetings, I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS solutions. 1. Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an app that works with something like Google Maps. It would really be even better if one could get turn-by-turn instructions. 2. I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several countries. The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be solved. 3. Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with VoiceOver cost? My thanks to all, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website
How to contact apple.
Hi. Normally I have contacted apple accessibility team at the following address: accessibil...@apple.com. Today I got this message: The email you sent to Apple Inc. could not be processed. This email address will not accept emails wherein the apple.com http://apple.com/ email address is found solely in the 'BCC' field. Please resend your email with the Apple address in the 'To' or 'Cc' field in order for the email to reach the intended recipient(s). Thank You, Apple Support Team I have placed the mailadress in the to field, I can not figure out what I have done wrong. I hope you can help. Best regards Annie. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: voice over question.
Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called Matthew On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this very question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with that. Any ideas on how to trick the mini into seeing a monitor? On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. I wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. Thanks for the possible idea. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Steve, This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected to your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues. Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my MBP. Yours, Zack. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with my new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO automatically at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I complete login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that VO is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one. Any ideas? On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote: hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my setting in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up. It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it does not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked. cheers Michael. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please
Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?
Hi Mike, I agree with Geoff's comments and recommendations but there is one importatn correction: MotionX GPS Drive is only available in the US There is another app that they make, called MotionX GPS, that is available internationally and that is often confused with the first product, but that does not have the features that give turn-by-turn directions that Geoff is speaking of. So if you want a GPS app that can be used in both the US and in Europe, you'll have to choose Navigon. Also, you have to purchase separate apps for Navigon US (or North America, or a region of the US) and for Navigon Europe (or a specific country). The usage format is similar, but the map data is different. The Navigon apps typically take about 1.5 GB each to download. You need twice the space to unpack and update the app. I also agree that you'll want to get the free AroundMe app and/or Where To? -- Discover your next destination ($2.99 from FutureTap). These have a much better interface for searching for points of interest, which can then be sent to the default Maps app, or Navigon, MotionX GPS Drive, TomTom, etc. They'll list matches to your search terms in order of distance from your current location or, you can set this to be a location from your contacts or that you type in, if you're planning travel. These are great apps to have, even if you don't have an iPhone or use GPS apps, and I used both on the iPod Touch before I ever got an iPhone. The really useful function that was added to the Where To app last July is the ability to use the built-in compass on an iPhone or iPad with 3G, and update information on direction and distance as you travel. So, for example, if you search for a restaurant, and then check the detailed screen for your POI, near the top right corner of the screen, you'll hear something like, Direction and distance, right, 240 yards, and this will update as you travel in both terms -- so you could hear slight right or straight ahead, and the distance decrease as you approach your POI. This can be set to use metric distances in the settings. I should probably mention that I've heard that some iPhone users in Scandinavian countries find the POI database in AroundMe out of date, compared to the one in Navigon. That's the only set of locations I know of where users don't really like these POI helper apps. Both AroundMe and Where To work internationally, and also support other language localizations. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 30, 2012, Michael Busboom wrote: Wonderfully instructive and helpful, Geoff, thanks! I think I will have to get a 4S with 64GB if I start downloading maps onto my phone. I will contact you either by phone or off-list with some more questions. Thanks again, Mike On 30,Jan,2012, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Mike, Motionx GPS Drive uses GoogleMaps, and has a setting where they can be cached on the IOS device. This would minimize data usage, and since you can always go to the cloud to retrieve current maps, they should in theory be always more current. IMHO, from a VoiceOver perspective MotionX is a bit quirkier than Navigon initially, in that many items are not labeled. For that reason you probably would not use Motionx to search for businesses, but other apps such as WhereTo and AroundMe accomplish this and integrate with Navigon and Motionx, which, considering the price difference renders the Motionx POI search inaccessibility a non factor. I have Navigon and am very satisfied, but if I was making the choice today would go with Motionx. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: page up or down with vo
Hello Daniela, For the Page Up and Page Down VO commands to work, you have to be interacting with the text area. I'm talking about the VO commands, not the normal OS commands. Also, in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category, you must have the check box Allow cursor wrapping unchecked. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: page up or down with vo
Thank you so much Ane! I had the cursor wrapping on, so that was the main problem. And if I can help somehow, please don't gecitate in contacting me as well! Cheers SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 30/01/2012, a las 19:19, Anne Robertson escribió: Hello Daniela, For the Page Up and Page Down VO commands to work, you have to be interacting with the text area. I'm talking about the VO commands, not the normal OS commands. Also, in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category, you must have the check box Allow cursor wrapping unchecked. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: voice over question.
I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar diane.ale...@att.net wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: voice over question. Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called Matthew On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this very question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with that. Any ideas on how to trick the mini into seeing a monitor? On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. I wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. Thanks for the possible idea. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Steve, This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected to your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues. Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my MBP. Yours, Zack. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with my new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO automatically at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I complete login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that VO is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one. Any ideas? On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote: hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my setting in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up. It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it does not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked. cheers Michael. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: voice over question.
If you meen the vga cable that comes with it, yes it does not work aloan. Thanks though. Once my monitor orives it will be fine. Matthew On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Diane Bomar wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: voice over question. Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called Matthew On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this very question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with that. Any ideas on how to trick the mini into seeing a monitor? On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. I wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. Thanks for the possible idea. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Steve, This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected to your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues. Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my MBP. Yours, Zack. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with my new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO automatically at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I complete login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that VO is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one. Any ideas? On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote: hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my setting in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up. It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it does not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked. cheers Michael. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an
questions about mac mini
HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the bottom of this email. ok. here goes. 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? I think that's about it. thanks. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar diane.ale...@att.net wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: voice over question. Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called Matthew On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this very question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with that. Any ideas on how to trick the mini into seeing a monitor? On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. I wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. Thanks for the possible idea. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Steve, This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected to your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues. Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my MBP. Yours, Zack. On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with my new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO automatically at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I complete login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that VO is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one. Any ideas? On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote: hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my setting in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up. It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it does not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked. cheers Michael. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list
Re: questions about mac mini
For me, that cable didn't work. I had thought it might, but, unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor. As for Maria's questions; 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini. However, you can use a bluetooth keyboard as well. The setup is accessible. The only trick is to make sure you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are prompted. 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem. You might have to get an adaptor, but I'm not sure. 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on. When you first get the Mini, you will go through the initial setup. You will be asked if you want to use VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on. Once VoiceOver is on, it will be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again. 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? Answer; I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice Cast, is a program I have heard some folks use for this. 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? Answer; The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is. You certainly can get external speakers, but I use it with the one built in. I also use my earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the bottom of this email. ok. here goes. 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? I think that's about it. thanks. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar diane.ale...@att.net wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: voice over question. Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called Matthew On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this very question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with that. Any ideas on how to trick the mini into seeing a monitor? On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. I wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. Thanks for the
Re: questions about mac mini
HI. thanks for the comprehensive answers. that's super. there is a little flat screen i'm hoping to use with it. it's not very big and fairly portable. One more question. besides this list, are there websites and such where i can find tutorials for mac and voiceover ? I am a totally new user coming from a windows environment. thanks Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: For me, that cable didn't work. I had thought it might, but, unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor. As for Maria's questions; 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini. However, you can use a bluetooth keyboard as well. The setup is accessible. The only trick is to make sure you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are prompted. 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem. You might have to get an adaptor, but I'm not sure. 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on. When you first get the Mini, you will go through the initial setup. You will be asked if you want to use VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on. Once VoiceOver is on, it will be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again. 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? Answer; I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice Cast, is a program I have heard some folks use for this. 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? Answer; The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is. You certainly can get external speakers, but I use it with the one built in. I also use my earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the bottom of this email. ok. here goes. 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? I think that's about it. thanks. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar diane.ale...@att.net wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: voice over question. Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called Matthew On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this very question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with that. Any ideas on how to trick the mini into seeing a monitor? On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to
Re: questions about mac mini
oh, one more thing, the guy was talking about selling me a copy of office for the mac. is this accessible with voiceover ? thanks. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: For me, that cable didn't work. I had thought it might, but, unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor. As for Maria's questions; 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini. However, you can use a bluetooth keyboard as well. The setup is accessible. The only trick is to make sure you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are prompted. 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem. You might have to get an adaptor, but I'm not sure. 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on. When you first get the Mini, you will go through the initial setup. You will be asked if you want to use VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on. Once VoiceOver is on, it will be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again. 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? Answer; I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice Cast, is a program I have heard some folks use for this. 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? Answer; The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is. You certainly can get external speakers, but I use it with the one built in. I also use my earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the bottom of this email. ok. here goes. 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? I think that's about it. thanks. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar diane.ale...@att.net wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: voice over question. Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called Matthew On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this very question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with that. Any ideas on how to trick the mini into seeing a monitor? On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: Interesting question. No, I
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Hi NMaria, Vision Australia has podcasts on the Mac, as does Blind Cool Tech. Additionally, you are welcome to check out my site, http://www.macfortheblind.com and help yourself to everything I have up there. Office for the Mac is, unfortunately, not accessible to VoiceOver. The menus can be read, but the content area for the text is not seen by VoiceOver. Pages is the alternative for the Word Processor and, the iWork suite, is the Apple answer to MS Office overall. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 30, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: HI. thanks for the comprehensive answers. that's super. there is a little flat screen i'm hoping to use with it. it's not very big and fairly portable. One more question. besides this list, are there websites and such where i can find tutorials for mac and voiceover ? I am a totally new user coming from a windows environment. thanks Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: For me, that cable didn't work. I had thought it might, but, unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor. As for Maria's questions; 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini. However, you can use a bluetooth keyboard as well. The setup is accessible. The only trick is to make sure you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are prompted. 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem. You might have to get an adaptor, but I'm not sure. 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on. When you first get the Mini, you will go through the initial setup. You will be asked if you want to use VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on. Once VoiceOver is on, it will be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again. 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? Answer; I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice Cast, is a program I have heard some folks use for this. 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? Answer; The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is. You certainly can get external speakers, but I use it with the one built in. I also use my earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the bottom of this email. ok. here goes. 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? I think that's about it. thanks. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar diane.ale...@att.net wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: voice over question. Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is one, but don't know what is called
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HI. thank you for the websites and all that good stuff. so i works is accessible? ta. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 2:38 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi NMaria, Vision Australia has podcasts on the Mac, as does Blind Cool Tech. Additionally, you are welcome to check out my site, http://www.macfortheblind.com and help yourself to everything I have up there. Office for the Mac is, unfortunately, not accessible to VoiceOver. The menus can be read, but the content area for the text is not seen by VoiceOver. Pages is the alternative for the Word Processor and, the iWork suite, is the Apple answer to MS Office overall. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 30, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: HI. thanks for the comprehensive answers. that's super. there is a little flat screen i'm hoping to use with it. it's not very big and fairly portable. One more question. besides this list, are there websites and such where i can find tutorials for mac and voiceover ? I am a totally new user coming from a windows environment. thanks Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: For me, that cable didn't work. I had thought it might, but, unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor. As for Maria's questions; 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini. However, you can use a bluetooth keyboard as well. The setup is accessible. The only trick is to make sure you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are prompted. 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem. You might have to get an adaptor, but I'm not sure. 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on. When you first get the Mini, you will go through the initial setup. You will be asked if you want to use VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on. Once VoiceOver is on, it will be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again. 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? Answer; I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice Cast, is a program I have heard some folks use for this. 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? Answer; The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is. You certainly can get external speakers, but I use it with the one built in. I also use my earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the bottom of this email. ok. here goes. 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple keyboard i have for my If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted assistance? 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the computer? is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer is booted? 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? I think that's about it. thanks. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar diane.ale...@att.net wrote: For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable would work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
RE: Apple Mail on a Mac Concerning Message List
Another way of moving from an email that you are on in the message table to read it is pressing VO J (control options J). Then you can use your navigation keys to read the email. Then press VO J to go back to the message table. Another hint is to go to the top of all of the emails is pressing shift, function, VO left arrow and to go to the bottom of the emails is to press shift function VO right arrow. To create a new email press command N and then fill out the fields. To move through the fields I press VO right arrow and once you have finished the email press shift command D and this will send the email. Margaret Margaret -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Laurie Mehta Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2012 9:40 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Apple Mail on a Mac Concerning Message List Hi, Please know that I am very new to using my Mac and mail on it. But, here's what I am doing to read my mail. I open the mail program and simply use the arrow keys to move through the mailboxes (actually, I often use a letter key to skip directly to a mailbox pressing the letter that is the first letter in that box's name). I also use just the arrow keys to move up and down the list of messages, hitting return to open a message. I use delete to delete a message either before or after opening it. The only time that I am using the VO keys to navigate within mail is to move left or right from column to column (from mailbox to the list of messages in it, for example). In that case, I use VO plus either right or left arrow. Using this method, I'm able to hear the indication of unread, you replied to this message, etc. for each message in the list for a mailbox. I tried out this method inspired by the advice of a friend who suggested that sometimes using Apple keyboard commands is easier than using specific VO commands. I hope that this is helpful, but I look forward to hearing from others who know more than I do about this. :-) One thing that I have wondered is if there is a quick way to go from the bottom of a list of messages back up to the top? Thanks, Laurie M. (and, thank you, list owners, for this great list) On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I just figured out what is going on. If I turn VoiceOver curser tracking off with VO+Shift+F3, I can then move up and down the list and if any unread messages are present, I will then hear the Unread spoken. I'm convinced now that Mail marks the currently select message as read even before we Jump to it with VO+j key. Still learning how to get the most of these Mac apps. Another example of these flags is when you reply to someone, the Replied flag shows up and that doesn't go away when scrolling down the list. These images must have been pre-labeled for use with VoiceOver. On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: The image is the unread thing except it won't say it. it will just be there and be gone. in threaded and unthreaded convos. On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. I don't quite catch what you mean by the image. When I come into the message list, I never hear Unread for any single unthreaded messages. Is this possibly caused by Mail marking the thing as Unread as soon as it is selected by highlighting on the list? I really like being to identify read and unread messages while scrolling up and down the list like in other mailers. Thanks again for the help to this Mac newbie. On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Nope. because when the image goes away I know it's been read. Take care. On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: Hi, When interacting with the list of messages in a given mail box, I can't tell when they are read or unread. I hear Unread on collapsed threads but nothing on any other expanded or unthreaded subjects. Does anyone else experience this? I'm using latest version of Lion. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access
Re: converting a pages document to word.
Go to the File menu and you'll find an option called Export. You'll find the Word option in this dialogue. Be aware though that if you're document is complex, not everything will be successfully converted. You could also convert to RTF, and I doubt that people would notice. RTF is native to the Mac. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.aus...@mac-access.net MSN: james.londons...@gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 31 Jan 2012, at 06:22, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi how do i go and convert a pages document to word again? lost the email with it in. Ian McNamara --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
